Commons touch and experience needed

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I was pleased Ronny Deila fronted up for the press conference yesterday. He didn’t say anything particularly revealing but it was reassuring that the pressure of the last week hasn’t seen him hide from searching questions.

Mention of clear the air talks at Lennoxtown was welcome. It lets us know that the fans are not the only ones who believe the ‘air’ hasn’t been right recently. It will also, hopefully, have given anyone harbouring a grievance to get it out.

One of the manager’s biggest decisions for Sunday is who to trust in midfield. He needs players who will respond to the circumstances, and who can open what will be a packed defence. Guys who have been over the ground before, who know how to dig deep in the face of adversity, are also required. For me that means a start for Kris Commons.

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  1. Macjay,

     

     

    Ronny is only a symptom of the problem. Lawwell is the root cause.

     

     

    – Lawwell appointed Ronny when he was lined up as a no 2 . He became the cheap option

     

     

    – Lawwell appointed Ronnys no 2 & no 3. They seem to do nothing to help the manager

     

     

    – Lawwell sells our best players every season and replaces them with inferior players

     

     

    – Lawwell will have taken £9.6M out of the club during the decade of downsizing ( sorry domination )

     

     

    – Lawwell has ensured there is is no longer an affinity between club and customers. It is well documented in a number of cases where the club has not helped the fans. The banning of fans at Fir Park as a knee jerk reaction as a case in point.

     

     

     

    Lawwell sits back and allows all and sundry to take Ronny apart. Even Tony Roper got in on the act today on the radio. Lawwell will not allow himself to be associated with Ronny now. There will be zero air cover and Ronny will realise he is in the loneliest job in the world where his no 2 and no 3 are oblivious to his pain.

     

     

     

    What a mess Lawwell has created.

  2. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Wits, sorry for the late reply.

     

     

    My friend who lives in Belfast told me the owner of Portadown was very extreme in his views towards Irish nationalism.

     

     

    My friend told me when Chic Charnley played for Portadown against Cliftonville, the reds fans sung. You’re worse than M Johnston at him

  3. Macjay

     

     

    I find it absolutely bewildering that you can hold Ronny to account but not Peter Lawell.

     

     

    Despite me not agreeing with his constant negativity, Neganon posts often about how the club have aided in criminalising our support and trust me he’s right.

  4. Sid

     

     

    We are 4 points clear, heading for 5 in a row.

     

     

    They have a wafer thin squad and after one decent result they’re suddenly world beaters.

     

     

    Get a grip. I hope we get them in the semi final.

  5. If we get or act together in the summer then whatever they do wont matter. 9 points a min.

     

     

    But that’s NEXT season.

     

     

    We have a title and cup to win this season. We need to get our act together for that first.

     

     

    Starting tomorrow.

  6. Clashcitybhoy on

    BMCUW

     

    Re PL

     

    I am old fashioned on my views on how a football club should be run, in that I believe the manager should be the most important person at the club.

     

    When that doesn’t happen, you have a problem vis a vis Murray’s ego, Romanov’s behaviour or by contrast MoN at Celtic or Fergie at Man U both ran the show at CP and OT respectively

     

     

    As Chief Execs go, I think PL is reasonably good – not great, reasonably good ( 6.5 to 7 /10)

     

    He is very good at controlling the bottom line, but as has been seen by declining attendances, poorer sponsorship deals ( allegedly) , and a failure on youth development and new leagues he has been a poor performer.

     

     

    On growing top line, I don’t think he is helped by his board.

     

    The make up is myopic – they are the modern day equivalent of a golf club committee, without pens in top pockets and funny handshakes – male 55, years old, accountants / lawyers, and the equivalent of the types who watched the decline of British manufacturing in the 70s and 80s.

     

    In 5/6 years most of current board will be gone, and some newby will have the unenviable job of trying to change a stagnant culture in 2 years that really needs 5 years.

     

    As James Bond would say ..”good luck with that one”

  7. Defo worth a repost.

     

     

    Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on 5th March 2016 5:58 am

     

    This great club built by the support to help the poor has outlived its usefulness, incorporated within a few years of its birth it became a vehicle for rich men to get richer while paying lip service to our origins to ensure the paying public continued to come, compared with the profits an appitance was given to the charities to continue the claim the club had a charitable ethos.

     

    Throughout those years and to date the club has had to fight to retain its Irish roots and against establishment discrimination, sectarianism and corruption.

     

    Today that fight has stopped, the incumbents of the board have more in common with the establishment that want to continue the repression of the support.

     

    The support built the club to help us move forward in this society, now that the board have joined the establishment is it time for the support to kill the club we built ?

     

    That is how dark I feel

  8. Park Road 67 on

    Totally agree with Joe Fillipi earlier, we are miles better than them !! The huns are deid !!

  9. Winning Captains

     

    You’re now quoting a part of my post by saying they’re not world beaters, that’s what I said.

     

    I had a debate with you after the EK game and said we should sack our manager now, you disagreed, we’ve since dropped 4 league points to Hamilton and Dundee, was I right?

  10. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Dixie Deans at 8.17, i’m sorry for not replying earlier.

     

     

    United between 1980 – 1985 were a very good team as were Aberdeen in the same period.

     

    If we had Hegarty & Narey in our central defence , we would have won more.

     

     

    Ferguson turned Neale Cooper , who had the potentialto be a top player, into a maniac on the pitch. Kicking Charlie Nicholas within 5 seconds of kick off being a prime example.

  11. WeefratheTim on

    A wee update before the sack. Yoda, the lamb mrsweefra bottle fed last year after the ewe rejected him at birth, has turned out to be a fantastic pet. Thinks he’s a dog, because he was brought up with the dogs, more obedient than the dogs, and even gives you a kiss on demand. True. Lol Offski now. HH.

  12. TheTimLazyBassaRieper

     

     

    Can’t view it but I’m guessing it’s showing cat like reflexes?!

  13. Dallas Dallas

     

     

    If you don’t mind me asking which one were you at the AGM?

  14. Sid

     

     

    No you weren’t right, in my opinion.

     

     

    Ronny is Celtic manager and should have as much support as possible until the summer. Then we’ll see what happens.

     

     

    Maybe skelping them would do his cause no harm.

     

     

    The best CQN post came after we lost at home to Motherwell and the league looked lost. Winnie the Pooh explained to us how that was an illusion and he was right.

  15. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    HAMILTONTIM on 5TH MARCH 2016 9:38 PM

     

    Macjay

     

     

    I find it absolutely bewildering that you can hold Ronny to account but not Peter Lawell.

     

     

     

    Despite me not agreeing with his constant negativity, Neganon posts often about how the club have aided in criminalising our support and trust me he’s right.

     

     

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    Not the case,mate.

     

    Two points…

     

    Scapegoating…

     

    ……Blame the Board , not P.L. unless you believe the Board is a one man band.

     

    Some do.

     

    I don`t.

     

     

    I can`t express an opinion on criminalising the support.

     

    I don`t have enough information , however I am comfortable to give some credence to those who do moderated naturally by the “Board bashing ” attitude of some.

     

     

    The bottom line.

     

    The Board must accept responsibility for the disastrous decision to engage Ronny.

     

    The Board must take responsibility for failing to take action to remove him when it became obvious that

     

    he was a failure.

     

    For some of us that was obvious a long time ago.

     

     

    Be wildered no more , my fellow Tim .

     

    :-)

  16. Gordon64 I also listened to Andy Ritchie on Off the Ball. spouting that kind of tosh is exactly why he gets a gig. There are very very few pundits who will give us fair and balanced hearing. H H Hebcelt

  17. Clashcitybhoy

     

     

    Good post.

     

    Imo : Declining attendances were inevitable playing our football in Scotland when the league next door became so rich, accessible and high profile. Especially when we arguably lost the biggest Derby game in British football.

     

     

    The cheating bassas are still influencing, sometimes dominating our focus. If anybody doubts this I think the number of posts on here since they died would justify and prove this point.

     

     

    I reitterate Ronny, s job has been far more difficult, not easier contrary to popular opinion.

     

     

    As long as we are playing in Scotland we will never leave the old firm tag behind.

     

     

    I really wished we could have started in the English / Welsh lower leagues and worked our way up. I think we would have galvanised our support and players. Instead we have just stagnated, and much of the blame for that has been outwith our control.

     

     

    Hail, Hail to all.

  18. lucky cody on 5th March 2016 9:36 pm

     

     

    Macjay,

     

     

    Ronny is only a symptom of the problem. Lawwell is the root cause.

     

     

    – Lawwell appointed Ronny when he was lined up as a no 2 . He became the cheap option

     

     

    *so Lenny bails out on us and its all PL’s fault. FFS.

     

     

    timreaper your really up on that score the day. you said you never saw the game, take it you couldnae get a ticket then.

  19. There are those out there, Celtic supporters, who are concerned about meeting sevco, in fact to be honest some are scared, even petrified. I’m no and a wee story below relates why.

     

     

    In 1961 Morton finished last in the old 2nd division, there were only 2 leagues then so no relegation. At the end of that season Dundee business man Haldane Stewart was invited to join the board.

     

     

    The newly titled director manager using his salesman talents set about revolutionising the game. He built a side consisting of rejects, free transfers and even signed 2 players from the army, shades of Lou Macari here. He also started a Viking invasion of Scotland.

     

     

    2 years later and they finished 3rd, 1 point behind 2nd place scoring an amazing 100 goals. This caught the eye of the bigger clubs and we made a bid for their talisman striker quick draw mcgraw. Nae chance was the govan born and bred hun aficionado pulling on the hoops as he waited in vain for his heroes, they had forest and mclean leading the line however with old warhorse miller in waiting.

     

     

    We in turn settled for another of their prolific scorers Paddy Turner, the Dubliner however only scored 1 goal for the hoops and was gone the following season, like Hughie Maxwell he came at the wrong time.

     

     

    mcgraw eventually signed for hibs so it wasn’t the green tops he was averse to, just the Celtic one. I saw him converted to left half for the Leith side run straight across the park and humph the wee mhan at the jungle, didnae even get booked. Seemingly he walks with sticks now…karma.

     

     

    Morton continued with their good form the next season and were taking Scottish Football by storm. They reached the League Cup final disposing of Motherwell and Hibs on the way and were on course for promotion, unbeaten in 20 league and cup matches, having scored 69 goals, with all of it witnessed by large, vociferous crowds fully of Lanny and El D, before meeting the deid team on a sunny October day at hunden. It was always sunny on LC Final day.

     

     

    The half time score was 0-0 before they capitulated in the 2nd half losing 0-5 with the aforementioned forest scoring 4 of them and his cousin willoughby the other one.

     

     

    That did not deter them and they continued on against lesser opponents, the key phrase here is lesser. They won their first 23 league matches in a row, a record only broken by MON and lost just one match as they won the Second Division by 14 points. They also scored more league goals, 135, than any British side.

     

     

    In all league and cup matches they scored 164 goals with macgraw the leading scorer in the UK netting 58 times. In all games including Renfrewshire Cup, friendlies, and the short-lived Summer Cup, Morton scored an incredible 203 goals in 62 matches that season and were obviously promoted.

     

     

    2 seasons later while we were celebrating the 1st title of the honest nine, they were relegated with only 8 wins out of 34 games played and a goal difference of -42.

     

     

    20+ years later and Gretna carried on the Cinderella club tradition, rocketing up into the SPL in 3 seasons and cup runners up after a penalty shoot out with the jambos, with Kenny Deuchar being a latter day mcgraw.

     

     

    One season later they were relegated and decscended into oblivion as their proclivity for success caught up with them.

     

     

    We are now witnessing another one of those Cinderella stories and no I don’t mean Leicester City but the newest team in Scottish football who are enjoying their day in the sun.

     

     

    Now while “Hal Heroes” as they were dubbed were carving out success on the field Hal himself was not a football man and left that side of the business to his 2 coaches Howitt and Cowie, the latter having won 20 caps for Scotland with unfashionable Dundee and the former going on to manage Motherwell for 7 years, while he carried on with his wheeling and dealing.

     

     

    What fate awaits the manager of the year in waiting when he has to replace all his misfits and loanees?, or will he still be there and is just now letting the msm pad his resume.

  20. We need to back the team just now.

     

     

    Everything else will have to wait.

     

     

    There are lots of things not right just now, but the 11 on the park need their 12th mhan.

     

     

    And as to the malaise with the Club, look to the top, Mr. Bankier has done what exactly in his time as Chairman of the Club?

     

    Apart from tell you to behave?

     

    A statement on a decade and more of cheating?

     

    Nothing.

     

    He is Chairman of the Club, the Leader, yet nothing.

     

     

     

    Back the Team, criticise the Board, or something like that.

  21. Forza Yoda.

     

     

    Weefrathetim , love your stories about the animals. Keep them coming.

  22. Macjay

     

     

    Trust me, PL rules Celtic with an iron rod. The rest of the board simply adhere to his orders.

     

     

    Though it’s worth noting that DD is obviously happy with how PL is operating.

  23. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Hamiltontim, i was sitting next to bar.

     

     

    When there was discussion about the OB act, I commented my concerns for my 16 year old son if he gets into the standing section or goes to away games, that the polis could screw his future chancesof a job if he was ever accused for a supposed offensive comment or chant.

  24. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    lucky cody on 5th March 2016 9:36 pm

     

     

    Basically, you suggest that Celtic are a one man band.

     

    I don`t believe that.

     

     

    Analogy……….Not the British govt.

     

    Not the British cabinet.

     

    No.

     

    Thatcher.

     

    That misconstruction was laid bare by the fact that “they” sacked her.

  25. Winning Captains

     

    I sincerely hope you are right, my opinion is he’s lost the support of some of his players and should be replaced immediately before more damage accrues. HH

  26. Up like a bird on

    This is now scottish football at its all time low…..we are now nearly at armageddon , soon enough there will only be one way

  27. Tontine

     

     

    TheTimRieper is a greedy, lazy git at the CQN 5s each week but questioning his credentials is way off the mark. He goes home and away to watch Celtic.

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