You’re victim of a costly refereeing failure, what do you do? Celtic wrote to the SFA for clarification. There was no demand for censure of the officials or a ban for the Inverness player.
In 2011, when the SFA were victim of a costly refereeing error against Czech Republic, Association president, Campbell Ogilvie, took it upon himself to write to Uefa demanding the referee who failed to correctly interpret a penalty incident, be marked down, and that the player who dived is excluded from the remainder of the competition. The Daily Record glowingly reported the actions here.
The SFA set a precedent: after being hard done by, demand action against the referee. Don’t just let supervisory processes take their course. This is the standard set by Campbell Ogilvie.
“An SFA spokesman” also made it his business to brief a grateful media on the actions of Mr Ogilvie. This was a coordinated campaign by the SFA against a match official, as well as an attempt to circumvent process.
Is this fair enough? Well, I don’t remember an outcry at the time. A referee made a bad mistake in an important game. Standards should have been higher. The SFA would have been within their rights to say so, although they had no business trying to influence referee supervisory processes. If only we had a competent administrator who would realise this.
Celtic are within their rights to say standards should be higher now and instead of trying to mislead by suggesting no one in the ground was convinced Celtic should have had a penalty, the SFA should acknowledge that standards can and must improve.
Saying that would shut Celtic up and give them nothing to MORE complain about. Instead of being concerned by the actions of SFA referee chief Fleming.
What you will note is the utter contempt shown for your club by many for writing a letter asking for clarification, even from those who lauded Campbell Ogilvie for demanding a referee is demoted. Celtic are the last superpower standing after the Long Cold War, but we’ll always be the enemy to some. We may well win the next 30 league titles, but as long as Campbell ‘What school did you go to?’ Ogilvie is in charge at Hampden, you’ll know what we’re up against.
Great three points last night. Particularly delighted for Gary Mackay-Steven. He, and Stuart Armstrong, are still finding their feet at Celtic. It will be next season before we see the best of them (think Stefan Johansen circa April 2014), but the early signs are encouraging.
Big Virgil had a better record from free kicks than we had from penalties a couple of seasons ago!
Thanks to everyone who registered for the Foundation’s Ben Nevis climb yesterday, trying to get as many confirmed before tomorrow as possible. It’s on 13 June. Last year participants raised £45k, which fed the hungry, sheltered the homeless and aided others in need. Sign up here.
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In what way would Meekins missing the Scottish Cup-Final help Celtic ? In my opinion it wouldnt help us in anyway its not Meekins who is the culprit he did what most footballers would have done it is the officials who turned a blind eye that are the real cheats.We know that Celtic continually the dirty end of the stick but outwith our support most think we are paranoid and these poor decisions even themselves out over the season.I think we must keep the pressure on the SFA and let them know we know they are cheating us.H.H.
…oot tae watch some Murdo-hunskelping-dvd’s-with-the-Jungle-in-full-voice-in-the-back-ground-when-Celtic-were-Celtic
Seriously…guid luck with all yer crusades but, I fear a lot more lessons will be learned afore yeez actually click-into-gear.
…bye.
Good article.
Disappointed in NFL today and recently. He knows the script up here. If you don’t have anything positive to say about Celtic then don’t say anything. If you do the SMSM will jump all over it.
Still laughing at the celebration from the wee hun Mcallister last night.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
12:43 on
23 April, 2015
thomthethim for oscar ok
I have already asked BRTH that questipn and he confirmed ts not a worry.
Loose lips CSC
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Cheers, I think I have the same concerns as yourself.
However, perhaps the more exposure it gets, considering the number of outlets who are ignoring it, having been given the evidence, the better.
As long as Phil doesn’t overreach and jeopardise the initiative.
PS.
What’s that smell?
#wholetthedogsout
Heading to the Mitchell to meet the long lost traveller Estadio
Auldheid
12:51 on 23 April, 2015
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Ha :)…..ok
Hail Hail
…bye.
www
Podium soots you sir!!!! 0)
I’m glad that Ronny has supported Meekings for the final.
He is not the problem, he is just a naughty squirrel!
KevJungle
Life is simple in your world. Change the board. Bring back the Jungle. Ban the media. I’m afraid life is not that simple.
Jamesgang
I make hunners of mistakes. Somehow I often use ; insted of ‘. It annoys the life out of me but is sort of my CQN calling card. People will know it is me.
Sometimes I correct it and sometimes I don;t.
It’s not all that important and neither is it that me and you always agree on everything debate is healthy.
I am right and you are wrang on this one tho! ;-)
LB
“The worst refs I have seen are not Scottish (Juve games anyone?)”
Bawsman,
Agreed.
Pop on here on any European night and the ref will be getting it TIGHT.
HH
#scroll the troll
LiviBhoy
12:54 on 23 April, 2015
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Celtic supporters are ‘thee’ most powerful force in scottish football, thing is…they either dont know how to use that power or, maybe they have become consumed by apathy?….who knows?….the powerful period is now – when they’re needed – for their SB-money…once they hand it over…they are, in effect…paying for the privilage of being hun-establishment-bitches…the truth…imho.
Take care…have to go off oot, bye.
LB
thomthethim’s post above your own was also right. Cos I agree with him!
HH jamesgang
Kevjungle
Yon rug at your front door must be well worn.
Forever aff oot then in. Then oot.
AntsInPantsCSC
HH jamesgang
Still laughing at the celebration from the wee hun Mcallister last night.
I know, could you imagine anyone in a Celtic Jersey doing that,?
Red, AND GONE.
thetimreaper
What was the celebration?
HH
patrick27
The girfuy sign with the folded arm, Hun bass a.
Big Chips 12:46
MAybe I have misunderstood
5 games to go
Celtic 79 + 3 win sheep game =82
Sheep 71 + 15 =86 -Celtic loss =83
We need 7 to win on goal difference
Obviously if sheep drop anything we need less
My reckoning next Friday(Dundee)
or Sat(2 May) when Sheep go to Tannadice.
On this day in 1950 my parents were married so happy anniversary both of them-if they’re lurking!!
Thom the Tim
I missed your question but Aw Naw has answered and my post of 12.49 goes a bit further.
A Clive dunn in work earlier… ‘I know for a fact that McLean has Celtic photos on the walls of his dental practice’
Me… ‘crap, he’s in the Busby lodge, anyway who told you that rubbish
Cd… Guy in the pub
Me… Same guy who told you Craig Whyte was the best thing to happen to you? And then Chuck Green?’
… Raw nerve.
By this time he’d shot the proverbial.
The league can only be won on goal difference after the final game.
Pointsmeanprizes csc
If there is no problem and everything is above board, why are the tapes of the conversation during the game not out there?
That’s the biggest question, and if we never hear them, then the brotherhood have been up ti there larks again. No question in my mind ,the fix was in, absolutely none what so ever.
Knowing your enemy .
Brief telephone chat with the Inter mad old codger from down the valley .
Ranting about Rube and the luck that sees them in the Champions League semis. According to him -Qualified from the Group Stage because Olympiakos lost in Malmo ( Olympiakos were denied a stonewall penalty and had a perfectly good goal disallowed ). . Last 16 saw them being drawn against an on the slide Dortmund . .Last 8 saw them getting Monaco.. Last night saw them getting kind Officiating — Rant Rant !.
Off oot on the bike .
fourgreenfields
11:59 on 23 April, 2015
All good with me, gutted like everybody else about Sunday but hopefully another couple of wins and the league flag will help with the healing process
Great article Paul,
Those facts well remembered and a total contradiction to those criticising Celtic for requesting clarification.
All teams should be calling for a shake up of the refereeing Organisation,they cannot be Judge and Jury nor self policing.
That apart good 3 points but nervous.
Paul67 et al
I see our very own John Hartson made it into the current edition of Private Eye.
‘Commmentatorballs’
“Wales are are now running amok, running an absolute mok”
Auldheid,
Thanks. I read Awe Naw’s reply and your post.
Just wanted to be sure, to be sure!
joe filippis haircut
12:52 on 23 April, 2015
I agree I have no axe to grind with the player However if he is banned the implication (or in this case facts) are that the referee got it wrong (or in this case cheated)
67ECW
“Qualified from the Group Stage because Olympiakos lost in Malmo ( Olympiakos were denied a stonewall penalty and had a perfectly good goal disallowed )”
Sot,
That game was played in the first or second week.
He doesn’t harbour grudges much eh?
67 european cup winners
13:29 on 23 April, 2015
joe filippis haircut
12:52 on 23 April, 2015
I agree I have no axe to grind with the player However if he is banned the implication (or in this case facts) are that the referee got it wrong (or in this case cheated)
67ECW
As said earlier, he is either incompetent or corrupt, both cases he should be sacked. On any one of them.
67 European Cup Winners
13:29 on
23 April, 2015
joe filippis haircut
12:52 on 23 April, 2015
I agree I have no axe to grind with the player However if he is banned the implication (or in this case facts) are that the referee got it wrong (or in this case cheated)
67ECW
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No. We know that he cheated. what banning the player says is that the referee and those chosen to assist him, did not see the incident, therefore it befell the Compliance Officer to retrospectively assess the situation, via video replay.
By offering the player the ban, they are saying that it was a penalty and denial of a goal scoring opportunity and if the officials had seen the incident, would have acting accordingly.
If the SFA did otherwise, they would be confirming Mc.Lean as a cheat.
Hence, in this situation, Meekings is a squirrel, there to deflect.
Td67,
I think if he genuinely missed it through incompetence sacking him would be way too harsh.
If there’s some sort of cover up….be gone with ye McLean.
HH
Geordie Munro .
When it comes to grudging Rube he is world class .. Once visited him and he was watching a wild life documentary . Up came some film of Zebras —– ” Rube bastardi ”
Mrs S of T tells a tale of taking him to an orthopedic clinic in Palermo . . As they approached the entrance they passed a poor soul with a very bad hunch back ——quick as a flash ———-” Rube supporter “
Sot,
I’m guessing he’s no lover of Newcastle utd?:)
geordie munro
I’ve no doubt in my mind the little rat saw it as I said earlier, no doubt at all, .
But everyone is different, that I get, NP.
Tony67,
NP??
As in one of O.D.B.s albums?:)
One for the kidz
Right time for my siesta.