You’re victim of a costly refereeing failure, what do you do? Celtic wrote to the SFA for clarification. There was no demand for censure of the officials or a ban for the Inverness player.
In 2011, when the SFA were victim of a costly refereeing error against Czech Republic, Association president, Campbell Ogilvie, took it upon himself to write to Uefa demanding the referee who failed to correctly interpret a penalty incident, be marked down, and that the player who dived is excluded from the remainder of the competition. The Daily Record glowingly reported the actions here.
The SFA set a precedent: after being hard done by, demand action against the referee. Don’t just let supervisory processes take their course. This is the standard set by Campbell Ogilvie.
“An SFA spokesman” also made it his business to brief a grateful media on the actions of Mr Ogilvie. This was a coordinated campaign by the SFA against a match official, as well as an attempt to circumvent process.
Is this fair enough? Well, I don’t remember an outcry at the time. A referee made a bad mistake in an important game. Standards should have been higher. The SFA would have been within their rights to say so, although they had no business trying to influence referee supervisory processes. If only we had a competent administrator who would realise this.
Celtic are within their rights to say standards should be higher now and instead of trying to mislead by suggesting no one in the ground was convinced Celtic should have had a penalty, the SFA should acknowledge that standards can and must improve.
Saying that would shut Celtic up and give them nothing to MORE complain about. Instead of being concerned by the actions of SFA referee chief Fleming.
What you will note is the utter contempt shown for your club by many for writing a letter asking for clarification, even from those who lauded Campbell Ogilvie for demanding a referee is demoted. Celtic are the last superpower standing after the Long Cold War, but we’ll always be the enemy to some. We may well win the next 30 league titles, but as long as Campbell ‘What school did you go to?’ Ogilvie is in charge at Hampden, you’ll know what we’re up against.
Great three points last night. Particularly delighted for Gary Mackay-Steven. He, and Stuart Armstrong, are still finding their feet at Celtic. It will be next season before we see the best of them (think Stefan Johansen circa April 2014), but the early signs are encouraging.
Big Virgil had a better record from free kicks than we had from penalties a couple of seasons ago!
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The Glasgow Celtic way,
Lack of precedent?
Jungle Jim. Celtic are party to this bias. They willingly accept it. It’s like sheep going to the wolves den for protection.
RobertTressell
17:33 on 23 April, 2015
Where does that leave the ref/officials?
Sitting laughing in the lodge ,they claimed the didn’t see it,job done by the cheats.
Scottish FA@ScottishFA · 4m 4 minutes ago
DISCIPLINARY I Judicial Panel outcome: Josh Meekings (Inverness CT) & Barry Robson (Aberdeen) http://scotfa.co/09jA23
A panel of experts have now decided it wasn’t a penalty -)))))
Does that mean a player can be racist on the park but as long as he doesn’t mean it he can’t be punished?
I have been banging the drum for last couple of weeks that the team have gone off the boil. We were terrible early season particularly in Europe, steadied the ship a bit domestically but up to and including the Ross County result, I was extremely worried. We had the week’s break in the Canaries and came back a rejuvenated team. January/February/ we were brilliant a joy to watch. This run culminated in our 4 nil hammering of the Sheep on the 1st March, this was followed by a shock Home defeat by St. Johnstone we got back on the horse with a 3 nil over the Arabs but since then we have not played with the same verve or fluency. We are still winning matches with the obvious exception of the two ICT encounters but whether its the long season or not, we have lost a bit of our mojo.
bournesouprecipe
17:17 on
23 April, 2015
mullet
Did they buy anything?
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more to the point, did they nick anything!?!?!
aff oot – wee mhan’s footie. I’ll be a giant cone!
HH jamesgang
Another chapter in the ridiculous existence of the Not fit For Purpose SFA.
So it was the correct decision all along, give McLean the cup final. What a ref!
We should all get along to specsavers sharpish…
opticalillusionCSC
gg indeed. What scotland has lacked is the ability to accept it has a problem. Once that’s accepted you can deal with it.
The culture at the SFA is clearly one of bias, prejudice, entitlement. It’s a wee naughty boys club who clearly enjoy the fruits of their cheating. I can draw an apology to the West Midlands police force who had a rotten culture. It took a horrible series of events for them to admit it and then years to change.
What keeps the SFA from doing this is the wider institutional racism throughout scotland which effectively prevents them.
Incidentally you can also see the culture at police scotland is rotten to the core. Arming themselves, contempt of people ( they see everyone as neds), desperately wanting to criminalise everyone. Very bad. But no admission of a problem as yet. It will probably take deaths for that to change.
Cmon guys. This is getting so rediculous and farcical it’s getting very very funny.
No script writer could come up with this.
Enjoy the ride.
You know that McLean bought himself a lifetime meal ticket on the bigots after dinner speaker circuit with his Sunday display. No negative consequences for him. Job done.
neganon2
I hope you are wrong re Celtic`s complicity. You MIGHT be.
JJ
Upwardly facing nipples?
Upwardly facing nipples are like buses
Seen on twitter
“did craig gordon deliberately foul ict player? No he misjudged & wasnt in control of his body. Same principle applies”
leftclicktic
So the reason for dropping the case must have been a belief that the handball was unintentional? So the hand being in a unnatural position doesn’t matter then? because your hand can be in a unnatural position whilst handling intentionally.Outcome? no more penalties for handball
Unintentionally.
stairheed
Retire a happy man tomorrow, and he’d be in the Sevco directors box with Bobby Tait’ up and down the marble staircase after a cigar in the blue room.
The only thing worse than Meeklngs handling has been the SFA’s handling.
Now all that’s left is the absurd reply to Celtic’s polite question.
Unless CSC
This has worked out perfectly for the cheats .
I was never bothered about the retrospective red card. I want the officials to pay for us not being in the cup final.
This time I want to see the club go for the kill. I want to see the referee and officials lose their cushy jobs. I want other official to think about the consequences if they cheat.
Robertressel
I think it means that had they seen the incident that they say they hadn’t seen they would have decided that it wasnt hand ball.
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This decision means hand ball is as up for grabs to cheaters as diving is.
Make it look instinctive or natural and Bobs your Auntie.
An expedient decision with no thought to future application.
Was CG’s rush to get the ball not instinctive or was it deliberate?
A right can of worms has been opened up here in an attempt to avoid referees getting sanctioned.
The SFA – an organisation way past its evolution shelf life.
Just seen Karma licking a pencil and putting names into a big book, stay tuned.
Jungle Jim I hope so too. But I doubt it. All the evidence is there.
Do you think celtic will say anything about this hilarious meetings decision??
Corkcelt said: “we have lost a bit of our mojo.”
Is that the Cork in New York State that you`ll be from then? 0:-)
I agree with your assessment of our team.
My own view is that having played so many games is definitely the main factor but I also think that it being Ronny`s first season also has to be taken into account. I genuinely liked the cut of his jib from day one but I could still see that immediate success was very unlikely. We would have to change before gleaning any success. For some Clubs, the transitional period can be years, for Celtic, it has to be within a much, much shorter time span. So, Ronny`s `transitional` period led to some poor results but, gradually, his philosophy became more effective and we have, as you say, seen some wonderful stuff. He is, nevertheless, still in his first season here so I kind of expected a downturn in our play. That is why last night it was incredibly important that we came away with three points…the first team to do that this year at Dens Park.
So, a bit flat we may be but Ronny has also instilled belief in this team and belief can take us a long way.
Cheerio for now and all the best to your very good self, T.
JJ
I don’t have a problem with the case against Meekings being dismissed. It should never have been brought in the first place. The time to punish him was on Sunday.
The Compliance Officer is bringing far too many cases in for review,many of which-like this one-do not fall under his original remit. No other country in the world has tried to suspend a player for a handball which went unpunished by the referee.
Of course,to find a way to dismiss the case once brought,the SFA once again had to tie themselves in knots. The guilty men here are all SFA employees,be they the committee men who brought and dismissed the case,or the various referees who made the original call on Sunday.
What we need to do now is to focus our efforts on them. Not Meekings. Not his fault he got away with it. I’m at a loss as to how we root out a culture which is so entrenched,but the SFA stables need to be cleansed.
Very few players make a deliberate decision to handle the ball in the penalty area. However they still give away penaltys when they do instinctively stick their hands out and touch the ball. I looked at the incident many times and you can see the disappointment and dispair in Meeking’s face when he realised what he had done. He expected the penalty and expected to walk and afterwards offered no defence except to say “He was lucky”.
I have no issue with Meekings and am not bothered whether he is banned or not. The fact that he has not been banned does not alter one whit the undisputed fact that it was a penalty, that McClean and Muir are not fit for purpose and that Celtic were robbed of the Treble.
Is the conversations between officials on their walky talky ear piece things recorded?
If it is lets’ hear it. If not it should be.
I’m so excited about hearing the explanation for letting meekings off.
Like a kid on Christmas eve here.
BGX is t scotland fab. All cheating and corruption. It’s so lovely.
CORKCELT
Do you think MacLean was bribed? Who would have most to gain from Celtic not winning the treble?
(Points finger at WHATISTHESTARS…)
leftclicktic @ 17:56,
“This has worked out perfectly for the cheats .”
Can’t see that at all.
Surely the SFA have admitted the Officials made a mistake.
So how can the mistake be they failed to award an unintentional hand ball?
Hail Hail
HERBO
There have been a lot of suggestions that the conversations,being radio,can be hacked into. I would laugh like f… if someone had them on tape.
corkcelt
17:42 on
23 April, 2015
I was about to add my tuppence worth of a reply but just read Jungle Jim Hot Smoked at 18.01, who has made all the points I was going to make, only better.
I hate it when that happens. :)
Corkcelt. I don’t really care about meekings. But the great thing is that the SFA had rules and brought him up to the beak to punish him according to those laws.
To let him off is just astonishing. We now wait with baited breath on why. If they say they can’t prove he meant it they must also mean that it can’t be a penalty. The only logical conclusion thereafter is that you can’t ever give a penalty for a handball dos you don’t know they meant it.
These mental gymnastics are just terrific because the farce that is the SFA will get cornered by this. FIFA and UEFA will go mental.
This is a gift.
The veil of racism gets lifted and we get to see the cheating underneath. Enjoy it.
BMCUW
Craig Whyte would’ve been all over that.