As a consequence of items relating to lies told by former referee Dougie McDonald’s no longer being found by searches through Google’s UK portal, while reaming available on the US portal, a suspicion arose that McDonald has used recent EU ruling to have these items expunged from the search engine.
During a Dundee United-Celtic game in 2010 McDonald awarded Celtic a penalty, then quickly changed his mind. He lied to Neil Lennon after the game, and to the SFA supervisor about the circumstances which caused him to change his mind. Celtic Quick News published an excerpt from the supervisor’s report, which was based on information McDonald subsequently admitted was false.
Having admitted to a lie, and under pressure from Celtic, McDonald resigned later in the year, but the greater stench was that of cover-up. Having set the chain of events in motion, McDonald realised his error and admitted what he did to the SFA on the day of the game.
Having lied, he quickly came clean, but the actions of the SFA were far more serious. With knowledge of the lie, the SFA were now in ownership of it. They should have told McDonald to apologise to Neil Lennon and the referee supervisor. Instead, they publicly reaffirmed the lie.
Even after the cover-up came to light, the SFA continued to close ranks on Celtic, faces were set to stone. If Celtic didn’t know their place when it came to the dark arts of the SFA, they became acutely aware of it then. Nothing could ever be the same again.
I have sympathy for McDonald. He made a mistake but quickly did the right thing. His name is tarnished largely as a consequence of the actions of his superiors. If he called Neil Lennon the next day to extend the apology he gave to the SFA, the matter may have ended there and then. He was not an innocent victim of an SFA cover-up, but he was a kind of victim.
The fight to change the SFA goes on. Peter Lawwell is now on the board and some of the faces have moved on, but it is not a healthy body. The vast majority of the 93 member clubs are not conspiratorial in nature and have no ill towards Celtic or any other club, but overhauling the labyrinth of committees, with vested interests which have been decades in the making, will look like pushing water uphill to anyone committed to reform.
Our interests are best served leaving the SFA behind, and we’re not alone in that.
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Is Fraser Forster going to be the next stick to beat Peter Lawwell with?
Lets get real – FF has just spent the best part of 3 weeks hanging around with a bunch of guys who play in the EPL and “earn” astronomic wages. To cap it all, is it true to say that he was the only England player that didnt get a game?
If he goes, it will be because he wants to leave. Blaming that on Peter Lawwell or the “bored” is just drivel.
A very fair appraisal, Paul67, of the whole sorry affair. The old “vested Interests” will take some shifting, as the recent vote on change made perfectly clear. How do we leave the SFA behind?
Tim Malone Will Tell
I think under the rules the person involved has to request it , not sure if that would include the SFA ?
tommytwiststommyturns
12:42 on
3 July, 2014
Bawsman/Uly – Dallas should have been sacked just for the blatant lies he told on the Snyde phone in that night
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My point exactly mate.
There was an attempt to get away with “the office banter cartoon” angle but he lied, then used his position/influence to engineer a strike with Celtic/Neil being the target.
He is a liar, a cheat, and a bully, if he wants to sue me i’ll take both him and Ogilvie on. How he can maintain his position after denying access to paperwork to enable the inquiry’s by both LNS and HMRC is a scandal.
As for being in receipt of a £95,000 EBT I hope todays news that HMRC are to have the power to REMOVE any “contested tax money” from individuals until proven their tax scam are ligit will have many ex Rangers players/staff sueing their agents.
Hamiltontim
Forster if the money is right could go anytime. That has always been the case.
We now have a good keeper in place if he does though.
Don;t worry about tomorrow too much. Get through today first.
LB
As to Gordon, I hope he does well for us, but if he doesn’t I will have my suspicions why. Just like with that weasel Kenny Miller …
Heads up for the Aberdour gowfers. HM will be visiting nearby Rosyth tomorrow, might be traffic delays on the forth bridge
Awnaw how many ST’s have we sold and what is your source for this info? Hail Hail Hebcelt
LB
“Don;t worry about tomorrow too much. Get through today first.”
:) por cierto
Proudbhoy Expedia can be good for NY hotels
Haven`t kicked off the new season yet and the permanently miserable attempt to impose their misery on the rest of us.
Out damned spot.
Come on you boys in green.
Hail Hail to the new order in whom our hopes and dreams rest.
T4- spot on re Dallas
Tallybhoy
Thanks bud, gradual improvement, but improvement nonetheless.
MacJay
Loved Alfie, was shocked when I went into Jarvies Yoker in ’82 and Alfie served me.
ACGR-Oldtim
Aye the one with the stag label El Coto is quality, but not a patch on this one.
http://www.henningswine.co.uk/products/item/?id=857&search_term=coto%20de%20imaz&productCategory=&productCountry=&productGrape=&productRegion=&pricemin=&pricemax=&sortby=&direction=&shownum=
And it’s been reduced.
HH
I’m happy to welcome Craig Gordon as a Player, I always was envious that Hearts had the best Keeper in Scotland at the time and if he gets back to full fitness he’ll be a great player for us.
I don’t understand why people dislike him because he went up for a corner against Celtic,he was only trying to win Hearts a game, A lot of people need to grow up on this site.
You would think that every baby that’s born is born a Celtic fan, No their not, they have to grow into loving Celtic either by their fathers, or siblings, or by Playing for Celtic, Craig Gordon will become a Celtic great if the chance arises,and will profess his love for the club,
Celtic Underground @celticrumours · 17h
Dougie Dougie will be a referee assessor next season. Obviously the sfa consider him to be an appropriate role model for young refs.
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Steven Craven is one of the men I would love to be interviewed on CQN
LB- Thanks for reply,GK is always a worry for me as until Boruc turned up, I had never seen a top class Celtic GK.Stevie Woods gets credit for improving FF , but he has no authority to sign players, only recommendations.You said earlier clubs sign players when they don’t have a manager,so who has the expertise at CP to do this? HH
Emeraldbee
Doc
Pog
Will be in touch with all of you regarding arrangements this weekend.
Hebcelt
Reasoned deduction.
HH
As far as I have read over the past two months the evil Craig Gordon seems to be guilty of the crime of ‘trying too hard against us’.
Srsly, you guys? Srsly?
leftclicktic we are all neil lennon
13:11 on 3 July, 2014
Celtic Underground @celticrumours · 17h
Dougie Dougie will be a referee assessor next season. Obviously the sfa consider him to be an appropriate role model for young refs.
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Celtic must oppose this decision,a discredited liar telling young referees where they are going wrong? Scandalous .
Delaneys Dunky
13:09 on
3 July, 2014
Loved Alfie, was shocked when I went into Jarvies Yoker in ’82 and Alfie served me.
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His father was,I think, one of the famous five Hibs forward line of the fifties.
For me,it was Jock saying: ignore the past,we`ll have you.
If he were a hun,he wouldn`t have signed.
Viz. Craig.
If he`s signed for us,then that`s good enough for me.
THE EXILED TIM.
Is that a Spanish Wine distributor.I’m interested in getting a few bottles of that vino.
From the OP: “I have sympathy for McDonald. He made a mistake but quickly did the right thing. ”
I don’t quite agree, Paul. The “right thing”, in this case, would have been to apologise publicly and promptly to Neil Lennon, to Celtic Football Club and to every Celtic supporter. I believe we’re still waiting for that.
His failure to make clear that Neil Lennon, in particular, was entirely blameless in that episode made a considerable contribution to the campaign of hatred and intimidation which our manager subsequently had to endure.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for McDonald.
!!bada bing!!
13:06 on 3 July, 2014
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Cheers mate
With new york my biggest problem is do i stay in mahatten/times square area where shops, tourist stuff and nightlife are probably best.
Or do i stay abit outside .. Bronx, queens , brooklyn.
Id like to see abit of real new york and enjoy getting the train into the city in the morning but then i dont want to fork out crazy money in taxi’s back.. I dont think train thru some areas would be best idea at 2/3am .
So trying to get somewhere that is near city centre but not right on my doorstep.
Fussy bugger so i’am
Remember after the reversed decision at Tannadice (it was 2 pens BTW), McDonald gave a drop ball at the edge of the box, telling Stokes not to go for it ,ensuring DU cleared the ball up the park.
!!Bada Bing!!
13:19 on
3 July, 2014
I found that bewildering too.
!!Bada Bing!!
Celtic had given a medical to Craig Gordon and had him in for a look before Ronny was appointed. I don;t see a problem with that. Top class player and available. Get him in and see what he can do. The goalkeeping coach opinion and analysis is important.
Clubs in Europe and in particular Spain have had presidents who sign players. The galactico years at Real Madrid the manager had players given to him by the president. Top players mind you but that was the way it is done.
I am not saying anyone at Celtic out with the manager can sign players. I don;t believe anyone ever signs a player for the coach. Craig Gordon was brought in to be assessed. This was before Ronny was appointed. It may have been that this was arranged before Neil Lennon left. Who knows? Once Gordon had went through and assessment and a physical test he was deemed to be an option. Now Stevie Woods may have then fed that back to the new gaffer and he decided to take a look in training. Craig Gordon has been deemed fit and good enough for Celtic by the manager and the club. The club will always be involved to sanction a signing. It’s a huge business. Contracts are involved and a financial decision has to be part of the process along with risk assessment.
The decision was not made to sign Craig Gordon until the new manager had been apppointed. I don;t see what your ultimate point is here?
LB
Craig Gordon ? Yes please!
Fraser Forster? Yes please!
Craig and Fraser? Yes please!
Craig and £8m? Yes please!
What’s not to like????
proudbhoy- I was in NY in March and Expedia done a great deal on a mini suite in the Affinia Dumont, good location,10 mins walk to Empire State & Grand Central, crackin wee Irish music bar round the corner too :)
cultsbhoy
13:21 on 3 July, 2014
Craig Gordon ? Yes please!
Fraser Forster? Yes please!
Craig and Fraser? Yes please!
Craig and £8m? Yes please!
What’s not to like????
One of them is fit, the other is a gamble.
Awenaw Reasoned deduction?? Care to share it with us otherwise I can only conclude it’s a guesstimate. Soundings from my area are very slightly up,let’s hope that is replicatedround the stadium. Hail Hail Hebcelt
Bada Bing posted this last night after seeing it on TSFM
It may well be as ETims would say ” Made up **** “but I,m sure there are ways of checking it.
He should be sine die from all football especially where he can have any influence on youngsters learning thier trade.
From Twitter-
RangersNews @RangersInter 15m
Dougie Dougie, rather than suppress Google, go ask the SPFL and SFA for your file. Knowledge is power.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/232352988/Dougie-Dougie …
delaneys dunky,
Good work getting in and oot of Jarvies in 1982, as a saft Bankie that was too dangerous for me!
AR
Groundhog day!
The same people who don’t want Craig Gordon the same people who didn;t want to spend £2m on Fraser Forster?
LB
!!bada bing!!
13:24 on 3 July, 2014
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Selling it well buddy.
Just making list at moment so gonna put that down.. Cheers for that.
My excuse for irish bar sessions is the ones in oz are poor.. So poor i usually avoid most of them.
How very, VERY topical Paul67!
Mr Dougie Dougie visited my place of work the other day and I had to explain what he did to my colleague who doesn’t take an interest in Fitba. When trying to confirm the whole story as reported by the MSM, I could not find any articles that backed up my unbelievable tale.
My colleague believed me anyway. Her response was “oh he better watch someone hasn’t given him a sore face for that!”
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See the (Old) Firm Reapers have the Scythes out Early this Season..
What will it be Like in 12 Months..
Summa
cultsbhoy
13:21 on 3 July, 2014
Proudbhoy- it can be false economy staying out the city,and time consuming too,all depends on the hotel price I suppose,happy hunting