Who made the poppy a political symbol? For those who collected the flower from fields in France 90 years ago and many bereaved relatives at home it was a symbol of respect for loved ones lost, but it can be used politically and has been shamelessly politicised in Scotland in recent years, where the symbol of national loss has been exploited.
In itself, the poppy is not political, it occupies the same territory as the black armband, but even this worldwide symbol of respect has been exploited for political ends by footballers in the past.
I can understand why many in England are furious that Fifa consider the poppy a political symbol and have banned England for wearing it against Spain this week, but since a few live to exploit the flower for political ends, the Fifa decision is correct.
Before making the decision someone at Fifa would have undertaken cursory research into the subject. Searching Google for “poppy football” a few weeks ago would have returned this (now archived) result. I’m sure you recall; a banner at Celtic Park, which didn’t make the news on the day it was displayed, or on the next day, was badgered by someone into the news on day three. Celtic were the target of that exercise, the England team are now collateral damage.
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Before I hit the sack, my amigo who is visiting is Italian, can’t get his head around people who are football supporters, he calls us locos for throwing our money away, the game is like my country he says, so corrupt you are all mad, tis his opinion and I tend to agree with him, he understands the passion but why do you all give your money to the people who hate you, sometimes it’s good to hear what others see it like it is.
We have 2 choices…..
1. We try and reform the system in scotland, and top of the list has to be fair refereeing, can’t see it as long as I live.
2. We resign.
Number 2 for me, tis the only sure way we can get a level playing field, end off.
Or we can accept what has gone on before, bend over and accept what the sectarian scum throw at us……..
Choices, choices, what do you really want bhoys, are you willing to let your kids and grandkids suffer like we have, or do you want to stand up to them ?
Tiger
Wikipedia has already amended his details. About 20 minutes ago.
Stringer Bell says:
9 November, 2011 at 22:34
thanks for that now saved to favourites, I discovered the song when I was ownloading other Fureys songs a few years ago , and I think it is one of the finest and saddest songs ever, a wee classic.
Seven Fishes Four Steaks says:
9 November, 2011 at 22:37
I think Hagler too , if it is brutality you are after, his 6 minute demolition of Minter?
hamiltontim says:
9 November, 2011 at 22:40
Good one!
Time for bed.
HH
Hope i’ve not been lead up the garden path
Would love it not to be true
Apologies if it is
ernie lynch says:
9 November, 2011 at 22:41
Eric Bogle was a wonderful performer and songwriter.
Wilie Mc Bride and Waltzing Matilda always got most exposure and were magical songs.
But my favourite Bogle number? Esay that. “Now I’m easy”
Just wanted to say thanks to Henry Brannan for joining our charity prize draw.
http://www.ps3attitude.com/new/2011/11/support-gamesaid-win-awesome-prizes/
For any PS3 gamers who missed last night’s post, we have a lot of great prizes up for grabs including limited edition Street Fighter x Tekken FightStick worth $159.99. Entry is £5 and all proceeds go to GamesAid, the UK games industry charity of choice. I’ve also convinced my editor to let me write a “Celtic supporters show their support for GamesAid” article if we get over £75. Hail hail.
Praecepta
Could well be wrong but I thought we were playing in Europe also and I think it was AEK Athens thems were away to.
Just back at wikipedia and the entry has been amended again.
Someone may be at it.
My Pal has just pulled his story about tiger from facebook, he must be unsure.
Again Aplogies.
Nite all
Hail Hail
HT
they where away to Levski Sofia and lost a late goal , we where home to young Bhoys of Berne..
hamiltontim says:
9 November, 2011 at 23:01
You might be right – but I remember we weren’t doing too well at half time and it was not a very big crowd.
He sort of disappeared off-air in mid: oh-aw-oh-aw!
My dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. The Exiled Tim @ 22.55
Pal..
Dinnae despair..
Ah say the we hiv a Thoid Choice.. and THAT , is..
Celtic, should bulld a Winning Team!
Fur..
If we hiv a Winning team..like we hid in the Mr.O Days..
Well…
Suddenly, everything that ye are complaining aboot..
Disappears!
And
Everything, is Noo A.O.K. in Celtic Fandom.
Right?
Right..
Yep..
We should jist get Aff the Dime..
Quit.. Complaining aboot The System. and Worrying aboot
the Demise o’ oor Rivals.
We should.. roll up oor Sleeves.. shoulders tae the Wheell..
Eyes Doon. Look in..
and
Build a Bettah Moose Trap. .as it were.
Maks Sense tae Me.
Kojo
yer pal…who likes ye aloater
With regards to the announcment at Celtic park, I am sure we were drawing 1-1 with Tommy Coyne the scorer, game not going well. Tiger announced with some glee that the dons had scored at Pitoddrie, we all hung on a wee bit after the final whistle when tiger again confirmed with joy.
Off now
HH
just pulled mine from facebook ffs……mon the tiger
If this Tiger story is untrue, then it’s quite cruel on the family. Not having a dig at anyone on here, but it’s a major downside to social networking. :-(
T4
Eric Bogle was from Peebles. An excellent song writer. Singing the Spirit Home and A Reason for it All are really well written songs. Most of his songs are.
BT
Cheers you should teach :)
T4
saw Mrs T4 saying to minx re rumour ohn her FB..
I saw it rearlier and checked clyde1 bbc etc and couldn;t confirm it so left it out..
The part about the sacking was taken from Celtic wiki..
seems we got rid of Stuart Slater the same week and the fans where more annoyed at the Tiger sacking..
Just wanted to say thanks to Henry Brannan for joining our charity prize draw.
http://www.ps3attitude.com/new/2011/11/support-gamesaid-win-awesome-prizes/
For any PS3 gamers who missed last night’s post, we have a lot of great prizes up for grabs including limited edition Street Fighter x Tekken FightStick worth $159.99. Entry is £5 and all proceeds go to GamesAid, the UK games industry charity of choice. I’ve also convinced my editor to let me write a “Celtic supporters show their support for GamesAid” article if we get over £75. Hail hail.
Your welcome Sean. Hope you raise a few quid !
tommytwiststommyturns says:
9 November, 2011 at 23:08
How true!
In those days (when things weren’t too clever on the park) his comments often brought a smile to many a face – mad as a brush but a popular guy.
HT
plagiarism.com
I’ll teach yeh, doing long divisions with my P7 daughter..
Think I;ll just send you a text next time…. o)))
P7 thats well over 35 years ago..
Cheers Harry.
It’s going fairly well. It took longer than expected to get the prize draw sorted, and we really wanted to have it running for longer. We’re pretty confident we can get quite a bit more money in before Saturday. If not, you stand a great chance of getting the bigger prizes. :-)
TTTT
I managed the Glasgow Catholic Primary schools team for 3 years. We were playing the non dom schools in the Scottish Cup when several people at the side started a rumour that Tam Burns had passed away. It was at the time when the press were highliting his illness.
I marched onto the park, when we were 3-0 up and stopped the game.
What a diddy I felt when it transpired that it was done on purpose.
night bhoys, take care..
God Bless
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. HamiltonTim
Pal
Ah am intrigued.. Why did you stop the Game?
Kojo
yer pal..who likes ye aloater
BT
Give me a shout if you need a hand, seriously.
A Guinness is all I charge :)
A murmuration worth seeing.
http://vimeo.com/31158841
Well, I was impressed.
Kojo
Probably a mixture of respect and personal emotions.
It wasn’t the most sensible thing I’ve ever done but do ye know what?
I’d do it again in the same circumstances.
Kojo
With you 100% about building a winning team, but that takes many many like minded people to work together, not an easy thing to do, as I am sure you comprehend.
Big Jock is the first I can remember speaking out against the system, I am sure it was spoken about before, but I have no recollection so can’t say too much about them days.
He said that we have to play against 12 men, why should we have to play against 12 men, rather unfair if I may say, no mi amigo, we need a level playing field as that is how life should be.
Now we could talk till the cows come home about life and how life does not provide us with a level playing field, but we are talking about a pastime for the majority, sport, football fishing whatever, and all I and many like me ask is to have a platform where we all are level.
As for the hun, I want to see them gone, nothing less, never going to happen, but I can dream.
Not getting into the politics, but we will never be treated as equal in scotland, just my humble opinion, that’s what really makes me sad.
Hope it’s not true about Tiger Tim.
His sackable offence, as I recall it, was committed at HT in a mid-week game in the late-80s or early 90s.
Rangers had played the night before and been knocked out of — or at least beaten in — European competition. As he was about to return to the tunnel, Tiger says “…and in case anyone missed it last night’s score at Ibrox (?) was….”. Cue cheers and laughter.
Sacked the next day by that miserable old board.
Poppy talk just like huntalk the paranoia of Celtic has it’s genises them nor
so far back years of begun sloped off EBT payments.
Obviously, the Tax Crappers when advised their fraudulent folly of side letters
to the otherwise unaffordable ‘stars’ decided to remain dignified to the bitter end.
Hence the windown to a trickle the latter months the ‘ loan’ apportionment to the
Last of their imported ‘bargains’ prior to the preknown Big Bill from HRMC.
Murray’s fanciful Moonbeams were smoke screens advanced and enhanced by a still
subservient laptop loyal it’s chieftain Jabba of Airdrie in succulent impropriety stole
a march on his rivals by his descent into fantasy land the worth
his lying words in puerile and hun pornographic headlines.
It worked at treat for them many years pre bank bust.
Since then and inclusive the fakeover, Fatman and Spew have
In connivance the BBC and Clyde been afforded a platform to denigrate
and dismiss and deny access any vestige of hope the truth.
Thank feck for Phil and RTC.
Come the big Event…I’ll gladly raise the ‘Standard’ of flag size portrait
the villainous images of Jabba et al their part in the risible downfall
…the home of the Taxus Ragers
HH
secure
iki, that’s gallus.
Imagine being in that boat, hahahahahah!
TJ
HT – basturts!
Work in the morning, so I’ll wish you all a good night.
Mon the Tiger!
TTTT
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old.
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them”.
RE Tiger Tim
On the night of the 4-2 game , I made the poor decision to stay in and study for an exam….no radio or tv commentary, Tiger kept us up to date with the score, then towards the end of the game , announced ‘getting fed up with this , OK there has been another goal, dramatic pause 4-2 celtic’ ……
..marvelleous , cue little EKbhoy upstairs , Gerry P on the vinyl, window open, so the neighbours would catch the score before the 10 o’clock news.
memoriescfc
Anyway,Kojo,I think that this team is on the verge of Great Expectations !
Lennie is slowly coming to recognise that he has an unusually rich seam of talent in our Development/Under-19 sides,which he should not be slow to integrate into the First team.
So keep faith in Lennie,steady as she goes…some extra focus on coaching wouldn’t hurt.
And we need to be ready for a proper battle and fresh outrageous Mibbery at Inverness next week.
Onwards and Upwards.
The daddy
Well said…..how much have the huns donated this year, do you know?
My Dear,dear,dear,dear,friend… The Exiled Tim
Pal..
Ah know that you know ,that a Winning Celtic Team
is the Magic Cure fur Awe the Ills that we as a Group are
Beefing aboot..
And..
Ah widnae Like ye tae think that Ah wiz a “Smart Ass”, by pointing
that oot..
No. that Ah am NOT a ‘Smart Ass”..but..
It is Jist that Ah widnae like ye tae THINK , that Ah wiz!
Ah believe, contrary tae the popular Opinion, it wid seem..that..
We.. Celtic, are oan the Threshold of Becoming a Great Winning Team.
Oan the Threshold,mind ye.. we hivnae goat as Faur as the Loabbie.. YET!
But, we are gonna get there… Next Season..?
Why no?
Fur, see fur yersel..
We hiv a Veritible STREAM of Young Promising Players.. Coming up
thru the Ranks..
A don’t know aboot you.. but, this is the First Time fur Donkeys Years
that Ah hiv Felt such Hope and Expectation , regarding oor Pipeline of
Youngsters..
Paul George , Dylan McGeaough, Tony Watt, Keatings, Chalmers…Fraser
heck. .ah Could Go oan and oan.
Look fur Yerself
Tune intae the Video of The Recent Celtic under Nineteens Game Vs Manchester City..
and Manchester City, Ah wiz told.. had SPENT.. Fourteen Million oan assembling that Group ,whom oor Youngsters.. Took tae School.. and Beat the Panties Aff!
Yep.. the Manchester City Youth Team wiz loaded wi Expensive Talent.
Ahyway..
Ah am Very confident that Next Year..or mebbe even this Year..
Celtic,Wull come storming Back. .tae the Tap of the TOTEM.
Like Ah keep saying and wull continue tae Say..
” We Don’t Care whit the Rangers Dae.
Whit the Heck dae we Care???
Fur Ah only know that we’re Gonna
Hiv a Show..
And the Glesca Celtic wull Be There!
Kojo
yer pall.. who likes ye aloater.