I think we all got that sinking feeling when we heard it was a knee injury, which kept Craig Gordon from appearing in the second half on Saturday. So news today that the player hopes to be back this season is a great relief. It still, however, mean we need to make moves to secure a replacement.
Dorus de Vries did well on Saturday, in particular with his distribution from feet, but we cannot play have a season with only a 37-year-old keeper. This will be causing some stress at Celtic Park right now but it should not be too difficult a position to fill. Fraser Forster was fifth choice at Newcastle when we loaned him.
There are plenty of clubs with three or more good keepers. My preference would be to get someone with the profile of Fraser; someone we could mould with an eye on a future permanent move, but I suspect this is likely to be a risk-averse appointment and we’ll get someone the manager is confident can do the job.
Resisting the temptation to talk about Charly for now. There’s lots to say on the subject, but let’s wait for things to formalize.
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Bring back the nightshift
Good morning, friends – it’s another Matchday!
A wee 15-minute debut for Charly tonight, just after we go 4-0 up, would be nice ;-)
Good morning all from sub tropical Govanhill.
Lest we forget
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Hugh Gilmour (17)
Michael Kelly (17)
Michael McDaid (20)
Kevin McElhinney (17)
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John Johnson was shot twice on 30 January 1972 and died on 16 June 1972. His family is convinced that he died prematurely and that his death was due to the injuries received and trauma he underwent on ‘Bloody Sunday’.
45 Years
MWD
Charly in , no one left, not a bad days work, unless ofcourse your a perpetual moaner…
However tonight I’m once again off to see the team my wee da brought me up to support, and if we win i will be a happy tim, if we loose I will God willing wake up this time tomorrow a happy Tim and catch up with all the only happy when we dont win tims (and a few trolls also), find out from the “experts ” what went wrong and then laugh at the thought that some tube on the internet knows more about football than Brendan and his coaching staff.
I genuinely worry about the sadness of some on here, enjoy your day folks.
O Happy Days .
H.H
Brenda Kerr – I wasn’t even born
https://youtu.be/roXVh-D3mMs
MWD
The idea of sevco 2012 knocking back a £5.5m bid for
ANYONE is of course a complete load of chicken balls
HH
Smuggled footage of the sevco transfer committee in deliberation as the transfer window is about to slam shut
https://youtu.be/meCKcMvy4S8
HH jamesgang
Hilarious guff from the MSM today. Anything north of £1m and Morelos would be in a polystyrene box and on the back of a moped before he got cold. Enjoy your day everyone. HH
Moonbeams
Lest we forget
Well said.
Dark days indeed.
My friends in Celtic,
This is the type of signing many of us have been calling for. A signing that can galvanize the fans and hopefully the team. A signing for the team right now.
18 months is a long time and nobody can accuse us of taking the cheap option. This is serious money and deep down we all know that a loan is the only possible option for the quality we require immediately.
Hopefully, and I trust the potential will soon turn to reality.
Well done Celtic. COYBIG.
See that Benfica model, played 6 lost 6 in CL this season. However they make a lot of dosh by selling players and qualifying for the CL each season.
Which sounds a bit familiar…what do I know?
BMCUWP: The school on the South Beach but by then it was St. Peter’s P.S. !!
COSYCORNERBHOY
Crumbling relics of a bygone era-even when you were a nipper!
Ffs,even our secondary school was a former non-Denom primary!
Still,at least I didnae have to travel to Kilmarnock…
NegAnon2 on 29th January 2018 9:51 pm
This isn’t an investment. It’s an incredibly expensive sticking plaster.
Nonetheless when you are bleeding you do need a sticking plaster (or maybe a proper bandage).
But my goodness is he the messiah or just a very naughty bhoy?
Still need more signings or are you all to excited to forget that or indeed the fact we are cash rich?
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Not in relative terms.
If I had £10m in my pocket and the bus fare was £15m, I couldn’t afford the bus fare.
The economics of football today are that clubs with £100m to spare from TV money etc can afford to gamble tens of millions on young talent in the hope of turning up a diamond.
Some don’t get the chance to sparkle and there is a second hand market that some could sparkle in.
Some might never be diamonds, but some might be emeralds that are of greater value than the £100m Club invested, so they cut their losses and we get players of some quality we could not otherwise pay the bus fare for.
Its bloody simple and sensible economic business practice for a club in Celtic’s position and a way of being financially prudent whilst keeping the calibre of player that on form and fit, have provided entertainment.
Whilst on economics: to the blue pound idea..
What do Celtic make from CL qualification?
What do they make from the blue pound in a season?
Where is the greater value to be found?
What is the greatest risk to obtaining that value?
One is not having the right quality of player (see earlier for how that risk is addressed)
The other is having incorrigible rivals whom we now know will cheat and lie with impunity to pip Celtic of CL money.
How does it make economic sense to have a business model based on the blue pound?
Those ideas are of the past.
The football world has changed but apparently not the thinking of some on CQN where same old accusations are trotted out every transfer window.
John Lennon – Sunday Bloody Sunday …
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m0uLfO2ksQQ
HH
Word of The Day (seeing as we have a load of cobblers in the press about Morelos….)
Souter. /ˈsuːtər/
Noun (Scot & Northern English)
1. a person who makes or repairs shoes; cobbler; shoemaker.
Word Origin and History for souter
n.
“maker or mender of shoes,” Old English sutere, from Latin sutor”shoemaker,” from suere “to sew, stitch” (see sew ).
KTF
Auldheid 08.46
Pretty sound stuff, as usual
Moonbeamswd
Well said and well remembered.
God rest them all.
D66 on 29TH JANUARY 2018 11:23 PM
Well excited with the Charly signing
Does anyone know what the situation with the holy goalie is, heard his name on snyde tonight when I was flicking the channels?
Think he would be worth considering!
To be honest, God bless him but John Fallon’s best days as a keeper are probably behind him.
Pattern emerging…
Dave King ‘jets in for talks.’
Level 5 attain new level of pishery.
Daily Record prints same.
Gullibillies lap it up.
And repeat…
When I say “incorrigible” of TRFC this is from the due diligence carried out for Craig Whyte in 2011 before he purchased RFC.
” Historically, the Club’s cost base has been set up such that profitability is only possible with UCL participation. With UCL participation, the Club made an operating profit in FY08 and FY10 of £641k and £5m respectively, however without UCL participation, the Club made an operating loss of £17m in FY09.
Were the Club not to have the benefit of revenues arising from UCL participation, we estimate that this would have resulted in operating losses of £14m in FY10.
Due to the fact that UCL participation is not guaranteed and that it will be even harder to achieve next season due to changes in Scotland’s UEFA coefficient ranking, we consider it prudent to run the business on the assumption of non participation in the UCL going forward.
The Club has been reducing its level of overhead costs over the 3 years to FY10, however these levels still appear to be too high to sustain the business at a breakeven level assuming no UCL participation.
The summary projections we have seen show that the Directors have a cost reduction plan in place, where first team player salaries are assumed to decrease to £15m (from an expected £17.8m for FY11) and overhead costs are to decrease by £1.5m from FY12 onwards. The cost reduction plan is intended to lead to the Club operating at breakeven, assuming a minimum of UEL participation. [We have not seen the detailed projections and recommend that further discussions take place with the Directors as to how these proposed cost reductions are to be achieved.]
With player wages being the largest single Club expense, we recommend that the scope to further reduce player wages is investigated. This is largely dependent on the length and nature of current player contracts and the balance of minimising player costs with having a competitive playing squad capable of finishing in the top 2 of the SPL.
The only difference now is that Europa League money is required to make the books balance and with more places available that is likely to happen but the moral hazard to Scottish football that the SFA CGAF about is what happens in say the games after the cut off and competition for an EL place is tight and not qualifying means a club going into the grubber? We all saw what happened in 2010/11 season with honest mistakes followed by the UEFA Licence fiasco to meet the very business model RFC were being advised to abandon.
Incorrigible and stupid and a hazard to our game those in charge are happy to risk and one that Celtic have to consider in their planning (which is maybe a reason we got Brendan)
I suspect if John Fallon was coming at you, you’d still know about it!!!!!!
HH jamesgang
So am UNNAMED Chinese club make a VERBAL offer in EUROS to a SCOTTISH holding company for a Columbian uncapped player…..
PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON.
The BBC site sees Wilson of Sevco going to Colorado as the main football news of the day in Scotland. Charly`s signing is on the second shelf next to Albion Rovers report.
I suppose the Negatrons will blame Celtic plc for that.
Cheerio for now.
JJ
Done some reading back after the Musonda news was confirmed. Maybe the word of the day should have been malcontent!
One of the realities of the January transfer windows is that it is notoriously difficult to pick up quality as most teams will not sell their better players half-way through the season. Another reality is that players like Charly Musonda (on £40K a week!) and Paddy Roberts are out of our financial reach in the modern climate.
Buying Musonda for £10M on £40K a week for 18 months would cost £13.1M and is a gamble. Getting him on loan for 18 months on £10K per week will cost in the region of £2M. So the differential is £11.1M. To recoup that would involve selling him on for in excess of £25M in 18 months time. A gamble.
Meanwhile we have (on the face of it) at top quality player for the next 18 months at a small outlay in relative terms. Not a gamble.
It is a very good business (and footballing) model in this modern climate.
KTF
Nae admin yet? Naw! Really? Shockerooonnnnyyyyyy.
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MWD
TOHG and I will be in Philadelphia this weekend so TOG will need to deputise probably for a few weeks till he recovers from the trip.
He and my brother arrive Thursday and I go day later☘️☘️☘️
I pray for Philly. Let it be in one peace after Hurricane Fallon(s) passes through it!!!!
;-)
HH jamesgang
A-LisbonLionOnceGaveMeALiftCSC
VFR800 IS NOW A MONSTER 821 on 30TH JANUARY 2018 9:05 AM
It’s a good point, most of the risk is with the owning club, but I think your maths is a bit out
We’d only need to recoup the transfer fee and the difference in wages less any loan fees. There is also the opportunity cost and we don’t see any of the value of the players development but that will have been factored into the loan fee
MWD
Would be interesting to know how much they received from their “friends” at the Scottish Football Partnerships
VFR800 IS NOW A MONSTER 821 If yon Souter is the lad who used to play fur Dundee U I personally thought that he was a player. Controlled the game from centre half and could move forward and pick a pass. Not sure where he went after the Arabs,
What was the name of yon poster(s) that used to put stuff up here………. everyday……always the same style???
– always the same heavy message
-posted at odd times, but loats’n’loats’ n’ loats……..
-long copy ( always “in character”….)
– funny dialect / patois – mighta bin American….mibbe “Noo Yawk”?
-couldn’t engage with direct kwistyins
– think there were a few aliases…..
– might even huv bin a dug involved at some stage???
Ringin’ any bells?
Obviously hud issues,……. extreme views seemed to bring down the curtain on his / their particular “turn”
Stopped ( (stoaped)……abruptly withoot the usual flourish an’ flounce….(floooonce, Ed?)
Think it was…..DJ……. DeeJay,…nup…… CeeJay? Naw……. Kj…Hmmmmmmmm…
..Kojo?
– KOJO!!!!! ‘at’s it….knew it was there, oar thereaboots……., so tae speak…….
” ah wunner wut happen’d tae the dug?”
:0
(…….still barkin’ a expect)
HH.
Auldheid
Can you clarify the statement that PL made about the £10 loss that Celtic endured due to the “relegation” of RFC. I understood it to be £10 over the period of their absence – not £10 per season as some seem to claim (on a daily basis)!
This needs put to bed on here and you’re one a a select few that the others here would permit to tuck them in :-)
CELTIC40ME on 30TH JANUARY 2018 9:20 AM
Yeah, you are right. The sell-on would need to be just over £11M to balance.
KTF
An unknown Chinese team have offered 6m Yuan for a player from an unknown Scottish team.
Newsworthy?
TAURANGABHOY on 30TH JANUARY 2018 9:25 AM
He’s wi’ Hertz and may very well play against us tonight!
KTF
MEA CULPA
I think there was a minor lost in translation problem.
It was actually a phone call from the local Cantonese-Guangzhou’s anglicised name-restaurant
Want numbah nine? How much? Six millia,you sure,ok.
Expect ten tons of fried rice and pork balls at Ibrox later.
PS-the above tasteless comment-I’ve never been a fan of Cantonese food!!-is about as accurate as anything in the SMSM.
As a pertinent aside,is the Chinese transfer window actually open at the moment?