Football negotiations against backdrop of joblessness, poverty and death

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Uefa’s videoconference yesterday moved the prospect of domestic league football in late summer a step closer.  It is likely the lockdown across Europe will be lifted gradually, with mass public events like football games being the very last permitted activity.

That being the case, it is likely that some leagues will be underway behind closed doors in July, with many more in August.  Football will be back, TV contracts will be compromised but not completely discarded, so there will be some income, but without ticket revenue, the consequences for most Scottish clubs will be significant.

Most Hearts players have taken a lead from the (odious, remember) Gordon Taylor, PFA chief in England, by offering to defer their wages, not take an actual cut.  Ticket revenue is almost an irrelevant figure for the English top flight, becoming less so as you go down the divisions, so a deferment works at the top level there.

But it is pointless to Hearts.  There is a real prospect that clubs will not be allowed to sell a match ticket this year.  As with England, those at the top of the tree will cope better, but all will face consequences and even the likes of Hearts will do well to survive without an insolvency event unless they can significantly cut their wage bill.

Gordon Taylor’s >£2m salary is not sustainable if his members are not earning full wages and paying significant union fees.  It is against his financial interest to acquiesce to calls from the English Football League for an across the board wage cut.  While this battle goes on in England, the same debate will happen in Scotland.

The crisis is likely to come to a head in the English Championship, which operates in normal times to the norms of voodoo economics, but will be wiped out without their normal income streams.  There, some well-off footballers will lose their incomes.  Below the Championship, it is hard to see a viable employer.  Ironically, lower league clubs in Scotland can furlough all their staff, including players, who will not be offended by a £2500 monthly cap.  The crunch in Scotland will come in the top flight, where valuable contracts are at stake.

It could take weeks for this to play out, with millionaires holding firm against the backdrop of horrendous levels of anxiety, joblessness, poverty and death in the community.  I predict Steven Naismith, who unilaterally accepted a 50% wage cut, is one of the few footballers you admire when this is all over, despite his personal history.  A phrase I never expected to type, but these are exceptional times.

I was shocked then angry when I heard the UK death figures yesterday, weeks before the peak is due.  Our governments and their advisers have no master plan out of this one, and there are too many people still taking risks.  Each household is on its own, so stay at home.

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  1. TOSB…………..

     

     

    :))))))))))))))

     

     

    That wee currant is a button-pusher………….

     

     

    HH

  2. New infections have dropped for the second day in a row in Scotland 👍 and Diego Maradonna has tested positive for almost everything except COVID19 😀

     

     

    Stay home, stay safe

     

     

    CelticQuickGoodNewsOnly CSC

  3. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Both the UK and US as recently as 2018 & 2017, returned reports that identified the weak links in their response to pandemics, in both cases they ignored the risks and dismissed the recommendations as too costly.

     

    There is your reason for the failure to properly prepare, money they claimed they did not have that would have saved thousands of lives.

     

    Strangely enough they found billions an trillions to bail out guess who, yep the banks and corporations will harvest by far the greatest proportion of this new found money. And we can rest easy on how they will spend that cash, buying their shares to inflate and claim their bonus based on share price.

     

    The corona virus was world wide knowledge in early January that’s 2 Full months the west had to prepare they knew it was coming, some one remind me what they actually done?

     

    We are being told the Chinese kept it secret from the biggest and most intrusive information gathering organisations in the world are we being told these organisations failed to flag up this pandemic ?

     

    Lois to me like deflection is the order of the day, blame the Chinese and hopefully it will distract from the blatant disregard the leaders of the western world have for their own populations.

     

    Can someone also remind me when bats got HIV since the receptors that facilitated the claimed species jump are found only in HIV.

     

    A research project that was silenced by US and Israeli “specialists” and posted on here was very clear on the unusual and unlikely natural mutation. I have passed on that report to a specialist friend who was shocked by the findings and could see none of the inaccuracies used to criticise and force the withdrawal of the research.

  4. Neustadt-Braw on

    Lois Lane ….looker

     

     

    smiley hope your doing as well as doing is poss man thing

     

     

    Braw

  5. The Battered Bunnet on

    TOSB thanks for the helpful hauners.

     

     

    Dbhoy, the numbers are what they are. The pattern suggests that at this point in the curve in the UK the number of deaths will have doubled by Saturday or Sunday from yesterday. That is, we can expect the cumulative number of poor souls who have perished to be around 4500, in line with the dreadful experience in Spain and Italy at the same point.

     

     

    I’ll leave it at that. It’s not one of the most uplifting threads, after all.

     

     

    TBB

  6. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    NB,

     

    Aye as well as can be in the circumstance, service was a strange experience watching on the phone while at work.

     

    Will make up for that if things ever return to anything like normal, plans in place.

  7. !!Bada Bing!! on

    For the Irish Bhoys- if things improve, hoping to go to Belfast mid May,to visit my 1st grandchild 🤞,looking at Cairnryan- Belfast ferry, is the lounge upgrade worth it? Any hotels in east Belfast (I know) still open? Thanks in advance.

  8. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Got to chuckle at how the absolute failure of capitalism to address and respond to pandemic is all the fault of China

  9. prestonpans bhoys on

    Just logged off work there and opened a bottle of Peroni because I thought it was Friday. Been working from home now three weeks, two of them in isolation. 😷Cabin fever😵

  10. Neustadt-Braw on

    we live in strange times…..btw my Kuwait contact is the x police chief….he has passed on but as you know family is family where you are…

     

     

    smiley keep on keeping on thing

     

     

    Braw

     

     

    did you like this wan ?

     

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    just bide indoors…

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Psychological research shows that “neither special instructions about the nature of exponential growth nor daily experience with growth processes” improved the failure to grasp exponential growth processes.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    smiley as Celtic bhoys we are more used to Linear growth….10 in a row ..thing

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Braw

     

     

    smiley thing …..the best compliment I had in my life was from my big brother Gerald who passed away in May…

     

    he told me I was the most annoying Kant he ever met…..I was that happy cos me and Gerald knew a lot of annoying Kants ….everything about life I picked up from the family …but about Celtic from Dad ,Mum and Gerald ..

     

     

    take care friend

     

     

    Braw

  11. THE BATTERED BUNNET on 2ND APRIL 2020 12:48 PM

     

    Macjay

     

    I’m not here to argue for Chinese food safety standards, but the common denominator in virtually all zoonotic diseases is human consumption of meat.

     

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    This one isn’t!

     

    Why wasn’t this virus completely destroyed instead of being kept in a couple of labs, that we know of? When you consider that vaccination against it is no longer routine it could be a disaster waiting to happen.

     

    I’m not saying COVID-19 is a biological weapon, though I have an open mind on the subject, but there could be far worse pandemics in the pipeline.

     

     

     

    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/smallpox-fact-sheet

  12. Bring back hanging…..

     

     

     

    …..for bassas who trespass on railway lines causing trains to be cancelled when you are trying to get home from work.

     

     

    This means the few using them will be greater in number when trains back on. Social distancing?

     

     

    Grrrrrr. …

  13. Rebus67: Condolences to you on the loss of your brother, Drew.

     

     

    Ar dheis láimh Dhé go raibh a anam uasal.

  14. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    AOW

     

    Have no not got 900000 things to do ? 😉

  15. Bada: depends on cost of upgrade and benefits. I’ve always found the regular service more that adequate for such a relatively short journey.

     

     

    Can’t help you with hotels though.

  16. Just a wee note regarding my friend Derek cantly who was in a induced coma.

     

    Had a wee message from his wife margaret, that he is awake and talking but very tired.

     

    Docs reckon he is over the worse, thank god.

     

    Hopefully he’ll make a full recovery!.

     

     

    Thanks to all for your thoughts and prayers.

     

     

    ☘ mon the hibees big man.

  17. Bada

     

    I’ve got my doubts about you being able to travel by mid May – hope I’m wrong. My grandkids all live within 5 miles so usually see them a couple of times a week. So it’s a case of waving through the window, facetime and getting videos sent.

  18. The Belgian FA are the first UEFA member nation to take a stance on how their league season will be played out, after the coronavirus outbreak postponed all football indefinitely.

     

     

    And they have opted to finish the season as it stands, meaning Brugge, who had a 15-point lead over second placed Gent, will be crowned champions.

  19. BT, lol aye. OT being offered 4 days over Easter. Passport office guys being seconded next week.

     

     

    Still on platform. Trespasser was at Bridgetown….

     

     

    Bassa!!! 😁

  20. TBB

     

     

    You’re welcome. I found your posts very interesting on the Coronavirus statistics. Your numbers over an extended period in the various countries were more detailed than we’ve heard in the broadcast media or press. A great deal was made of the doubling of the death rate every 4 days and I hadn’t realised that there was a trend that the numbers started to drop off after Day 19 of isolation. It will be interesting to see if this happens here and I hope and pray that it will. The big worry is the total lack of preparation by the Government. The prediction is that it will peak soon and hopefully that will be the case. My son is a doctor in an Edinburgh hospital and my wife and I naturally worry about him. The sooner the crisis is over the better for everyone. Thanks for your research and trying to make some sense of the trends. I realise you’re not trying to set yourself up as an expert on the subject but trying to make sense of the reports and statistics that are available to date from a layman’s point of view.

  21. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Can anyone tell or suggest how the peak is estimated, what parameters are used ?

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    *Forward this message* to as many friends as U can to stop it.

  23. CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 2ND APRIL 2020 5:18 PM

     

    Can anyone tell or suggest how the peak is estimated, what parameters are used ?

     

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    I very much doubt that anybody on here would be able to answer that.

     

    We have to trust the science and medical experts.

     

     

    Cheers and HH.

     

     

    PS : Hope you are well and everything at home went as well as possible.

  24. Chief Health Officer in Ireland was taking about a peak in Ireland between 10th & 14 th April so I expect the UK to be on a fairly similar timescaie.

     

    I think there is a small bit of politics at play as well, they always come out with worse case scenarios so when the figures come in a lot less they take the plaudits.

     

    When this pandemic struck here first a figure of 15,000 by 31st March was bandied about, we actually ended up a wee bit over 3,000.

     

    There are no doubt a large amount of unreported positives from guys who got a mild dose and maybe didn’t even realise what they had.

  25. CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 2ND APRIL 2020 5:18 PM

     

    Can anyone tell or suggest how the peak is estimated, what parameters are used ?

     

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    Haven’t got a clue how they do this nor have I seen nor read anything that explains it. If, as they suggest, that it will peak in the next couple of weeks then you would expect that it will be very much under control in the next couple of months but then we are told that that it might continue until the end of the year and even into next year. So who knows really.

  26. Sporting events – I complained back a few weeks ago that no way Cheltenham should go ahead.

     

     

    Some replies I got included that the experts thought is was ok, cause it is outside , not like a football stadium.

     

     

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    Then –

     

     

    Cheltenham Festival bosses have revealed the Gold Cup WILL go ahead on Friday, despite fears over coronavirus.

     

     

    Racecourse manager Ian Renton and has told talkSPORT the Festival has worked closely with the UK government in its decision to remain open.

     

     

    The 2020 Cheltenham Festival has gone ahead despite other top sporting events being scrapped because of coronavirus

     

     

    Festival organisers have come under fire for not cancelling this week’s event, despite some of the world’s biggest sporting occasions shutting down over the COVID-19 outbreak.

     

     

    Around 60,000 racegoers flocked to the Gloucestershire course on Thursday alone.

     

     

    On Friday, Gold Cup day, it expected that number will reach over 70,000, with more than 250,000 punters estimated to have visited over the four days of the Festival.

     

     

    And photos of the Festival have gone viral on social media which have shown just how many people and how tightly packed together they are in the enclosures, stands and bars.

     

     

     

    It has prompted fears the virus could rapidly spread at the Festival, and led to rumours the final day of the event could be cancelled.

     

     

    There have also been a number of confirmed cases within Cheltenham village itself, with a Tesco worker testing positive for COVID-19.

     

     

    The Gold Cup is the pinnacle of the Festival, though, and talkSPORT have been told Friday’s racing will go ahead, and every precaution has been taken to ensure the safety and health of visitors and competitors.

     

     

    Speaking to talkSPORT’s Rupert Bell, Renton said: “We have been liaising closely with the government over the last fortnight and during the festival as well, so it was good news to hear yesterday that we continue the festival to its fruition with the Magners Gold Cup running today.

     

     

    “Racing and the government over here have a very close relationship and we would always work with them, and seek their advice and recommendation in whatever we do.

     

     

    The Gold Cup is one of the most prestigious trophies in sport and coronavirus is not stopping it

     

     

    “We have communicated with all our racegoers and all the participants to ensure they heed the government guidelines and look at the guidelines, and if they are advised not to come for any reason at all they should follow that advice

     

     

    “We have given a link to the government website, so as that advice changes they follow any updated advice as well.”

     

     

    While it’s been business as usual at Cheltenham this week, a host of other sports have announced the cancellation of events, with the NBA ending the season early, Formula 1 calling off the Australian Grand Prix and the PGA Players Championship at TPC Sawgrass also scrapped.

     

     

    Asked if any future racing events will be affected, Renton added: “I’m unable to speculate as to where this will go over the next few weeks, but we’ll continue to liaise with the government and do whatever that advice is.”