Foregone conclusion territory

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I don’t know about you but practically every football thought I have at the moment is connected to where we go next. The small matter of winning the league title has slipped into ‘foregone conclusion’ territory, which is always dangerous.

The players will be no different from the rest of us, but they will have more on their minds. A change of manager is likely to mean a new system, and new squad requirements. They need to focus on making the best of the next five games. One thing that has been reassuring this week is Ronny Deila’s comments. His professional pride is clear; he’ll apply himself fully to the task in hand until the end of the season.

Eyes on the task of winning the league, as soon as possible.

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  1. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Didn’t realise Peter Lawell saved our club!

     

    Some man so he is.

  2. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Cody

     

     

    Norway……..

     

    I was just having a wee go at Ronny.

     

    ” Is this a dagger I see before me.”

     

     

    Ah ken the Bard weel.

     

    I see they`re celebrating his death this year

     

    :-)

  3. Bankiebhoy

     

    Good morning.

     

    Yes, I can just imagine the headlines the GB would attract if they displayed a banner of similar ilk, and not only from the press. Our own support, would rightly, slaughter them.

  4. LIONROARS67 on 24TH APRIL 2016 7:23 AM

     

     

     

    Good morning,

     

     

    Have just read the article in the Guardian. I think his analysis of the game is a bit skewed, whilst I’m reluctant to drag it up again, we did not get out arses skelped. Maybe it fits his narrative that Celtic are in ‘turmoil’.

     

     

    Football is very fickle. Look at the difference between Newco this time last year and now. We are a well run club with a good sqaud and thriving youth system, and about to win 5 in a row. We are not in turmoil.

     

     

    Obviously we need a new management team and to address some of the failings in recruitment. If, and it’s a big if at this stage, we can get that sorted, we should trim the squad and add a few new faces.

     

     

    It’s not insurmountable to improve things in a short period of time.

  5. Macjay,

     

     

    I was at that game in Leipzig. Italy had 10 men if I remember correctly. They sat in for 80 mins with Luca Toni up front. Italy made a change with 10 mins to go and off walked Luca Toni who had run himself into the ground. He looked at Lippi who was leaning against the dugout during the whole game. Lippi never even looked at him. A few minutes later Italy got the goal. No reaction from Lippi …it was like it was planned. No surprise they went all the way.

     

     

    Lippi’s big hobby was sailing and of course a great fitba manager.

  6. CultsBhoy can not relate to Celtic Board ambitions on or off the park on

    Steve Clark is a proper football guy and would improve the team without bringing in anybody. He’d need a more charismatic No2 to front media and charm the fans. Kris Commons as No 2? With a view to succession planning?

  7. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    ANTIPODEAN RED on 24TH APRIL 2016 8:18 AM

     

    Macjay,

     

     

     

    Noticed your quote there about such and such giving me everything, one thing is for sure, the players most certainly did not give Ronny everything, what do you think?

     

     

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    I only view the game from television .A restricted viewpoint.

     

     

    I expect the players were dispirited and lacked conviction and confidence.

     

    That`s precisely how I felt.

     

    I can`t seriously believe the players have not given their all.

     

    Why wouldn`t they ?

     

    Winning bonuses. Place in the Cup Final. Personal pride .Professional pride.

     

    What`s in it for them? Getting rid of Ronny ?

     

    He says some of them would not be unhappy to see him go . Were they actually in the team ?

     

    I seriously don`t know. But I suspect a negative frame of mind would be a bigger factor than ” not trying. “

  8. Twisty

     

     

    Good morning to you too chum.

     

    Yes, the scoddish prism would be applied to the tims, with the huns treated by a different set of rules.

     

     

    They are guid fer nuthun!

  9. TBJ has no trust in the PLC on

    One of my reasons for avoiding any match involving sevco is I don’t wish to be subjected to their vile songs and banners which would not only turn my stomach and make me very angry but also go unpunished .

     

     

    Reading here of praise for that mob it looks like I’m in the minority

  10. Cults – please, please stop pitchin’ Henke in there……..

     

    Let’s keep him where he belongs a legend in a privileged position with the support.

     

     

    HH

  11. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    Ronny Deila, yes man to the end.

     

     

    How desperate is Lawwell when he’s reliant on a discredited, outgoing manager to speak up for him? It honestly reads like he’s given him a script to read out.

     

     

    We’d be nothing without Lawwell? All the big clubs want him? The measures of Lawwell’s success are financial?

     

     

    Yet by how own admission, there is no track record of success for Scandi managers in the UK for various reasons. Yet who brought him in and imposed his dull, stadium emptying football on us? None other that the Peter the Great.

     

     

    Really pathetic. And won’t change the tide of criticism heading Pedro’s way.

  12. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    LUCKY CODY on 24TH APRIL 2016 8:28 AM

     

    Macjay,

     

     

    Italy ten men.

     

    Dead right.

     

    Oz well in control.

     

    Looking forward to extra time with a man advantage.

     

    The Italian forward could have jumped over the prone defender , but chose to fall down.

     

    Penalty.

     

    Yuk.

  13. TINYTIM on 24TH APRIL 2016 8:12 AM

     

     

    As i said we have vastly different views on what constitutes a colorful display, using pedophilia to point score springs from a guttural hatred, you defend that in the context of a football rivalry all you want

     

     

    The last old firm game at Celtic park we had the wonderful TIFO displaying the apocalypse of the four horsemen, it was the Rembrandt of fitba banners, enthralling fitba theatre it will never be surpassed, the prophecy came to be, they died…………….game set and match on TIFO and everything else, it’s over as far as this Celtic supporter is concerned

     

     

    I never attended the match, i refused to validate them and the old firm narrative, we lost as a support in my view when we turned up,

     

     

    We lost the match in the dressing room, hopefully a new appointment will address the many failings we have with the first team.

  14. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    PETERLATCHFORDSBELLY on 24TH APRIL 2016 8:41 AM

     

    Ronny Deila, yes man to the end.

     

     

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    Is it just possible that Ronny knows P.L. better than you do ?

  15. CultsBhoy can not relate to Celtic Board ambitions on or off the park on

    Bankiebhoy

     

     

    Big part of me agrees with you – I’m merely speculating rather than promoting. My guess is Celtic will try to pull a rabbit out of the hat to sell season tickets. They also need to get a proper manager. These two things are expensive if embodied in the same person.

     

     

    I actually think sending the message that Collins is getting punted would go some way to engaging the fans more positively.

     

     

    A tricky next appointment but crucial they get it right as I honestly believe it wouldn’t take much to get the team on course.

     

     

    More departures than arrivals also key. If we shed 10-15 and brought in 3 quality players you’d see a transformation. I’d suggest centre half, centre mid and centre forward. The other players are already at the club.

  16. Go tell the Spartim on

    Commons as no. 2

     

     

    I’d give up if that charlatan got the job, what example does that set to players, what if as a player you didn’t buy into the managers ideals do you do a commons. Commons in any managerial position would be the height of hypocrisy .

  17. THETIMREAPER on 24TH APRIL 2016 8:26 AM

     

     

    Kevin mckenna is penning the article from the heart, myself having conversed with many supporters since last week have heared many opinions which share Kevins view of Celtic being played off the park, particularly in the first half, when you consider the opposition comprised of ordinary players from the 3rd tier of British football and were managed by an inexperienced management team, it was the final nail in the coffin of a calamitous run of football results in all cup competitions, the previous manager never covered himself in domestic cup glory either i hastened to add

     

     

    IMO the 1st team squad was in need of new management to turn around the present malaise, again IMO we were hugely under-performing given the talents at our disposal, however as you point put Sevco turned around this season and more noticeably Leicester have shown what a clever coach can achieve quickly, i live in hope

  18. antipodean red on

    Macjay,

     

     

    I think in many ways you answer both your own and my question. How often did our team look quite simply as if they had decided that it wasn’t going to happen today, you could almost tell when those nil-nil games were coming after about 10-15 minutes. We too often looked lethargic and bereft of any ideas.

     

    I played the game for ‘fun’ for about 35 years, played to win every time, even in 5-a-side, personally I can’t get it when a Celtic team can’t get up for any game, in fact, I know wonder what the point of the huddle is.

  19. CultsBhoy can not relate to Celtic Board ambitions on or off the park on

    The Sevco banners were bound to be vile and disgusting. However they taken a solid unrelenting beating for 4 years so no surprise they should stoop to any depths to fight back.

  20. Go tell the Spartim on

    I had the misfortune, and it’s my own fault for reading, of catching both the guardians piece and the one in the herald.

     

     

    As ever both articles are flawed and pick on a theme without putting it in context.

     

     

    As for the passing us off the park, that rhetoric always reminds me of the home game against Blackburn, it’s easy to look slick when you pass the ball around in areas were you have a numerical advantage, and it’s very seldom this particular area is where it will hurt.

     

     

    As a support we’re as guilty of revisionism as any one else.

     

     

    As Lionsroar states we are not in turmoil, we just have an over inflated opinion of ourselves

  21. Odds slashed on Steve Clarke replacing Ronny Deila as Celtic manager

     

    THE odds on Steve Clarke becoming the next Celtic manager were last night slashed following a countrywide gamble.

     

     

    1 Minute

     

     

    Danny Stewart

     

     

    One firm, Paddy Power, cut the price of the former West Brom and Reading manager to succeed Ronny Deila all the way down from 66/1 to 3/1.

     

     

    And William Hill, sponsors of the Scottish Cup, suspended all betting on him after taking similarly evasive action.

     

     

    “Some people clearly believe it is going to happen because all the bookmakers have seen money for Clarke in the last couple of days,” said Paul Petrie of leading bookmakers, McBookie.com.

     

     

    “We ourselves were 40/1 and now have him 5/2, second favourite behind Davie Moyes.

     

     

     

    “Only time will tell whether it is an informed gamble, or a reaction to some speculation. But the interest is definitely there.

     

     

    “With question marks over a few of the leading contenders, the likes of Roy Keane, Brendan Rodgers and Neil Lennon, it is a very lively market.”

     

     

    Clarke, out of football since being sacked by Reading in December, has been linked with several Scottish jobs.

     

     

    He was in the frame to be manager of both Hibs and Rangers and, in 2014 when Ronny Deila got the job, Celtic themselves were believed to have considered him.

     

     

    A boyhood fan of the Hoops, the 52-year-old missed out on the chance to join the club as a player in the late 1980s when St Mirren rejected Celtic’s bid for the defender.

     

     

    He was subsequently snapped up by Chelsea, who he stayed with for 11 years, making over 300 first-team appearances.

     

     

    Having gone on to coach at the end of his playing days, he was later employed in several high-profile assistant manager positions, most famously to Jose Mourinho at Chelsea for three seasons from 2004 on.

     

     

    It was a hugely successful period, with the Blues winning two Premier League titles, an FA Cup and two League Cups.

     

     

    He subsequently assisted Gianfranco Zola at West Ham and fellow Scot Kenny Dalglish at Liverpool before working as a manager in his own right with West Brom and Reading.

     

     

    While he led to Reading to their first-ever FA Cup semi-final last season, the Royals parted company with him the following season after a disappointing start to their Championship campaign.

     

     

    LATEST ODDS:

     

     

    David Moyes 11/10.

     

     

    Steve Clarke 3/1.

     

     

    Neil Lennon 7/2.

     

     

    Michael O’Neill 7/1.

     

     

    Roy Keane 8/1.

     

     

    Steve Evans 10/1.

     

     

    Brendan Rodgers 14/1.

     

     

    Alan Stubbs 16/1.

     

     

    Roberto di Matteo 20/1.

     

     

    Alex Neil 25/1.

     

     

    Henrik Larsson 25/1.

     

     

    Malky Mackay 25/1

  22. Good Morning CQN, we’ve got the Celtic to see today

     

    Let’s hope they can play better as a team, and pass to one another, show a bit of movement etc – all sadly missing lately

     

    I put up a list of 17 players who could go

     

    Now here’s what would be left

     

    Gordon, Bailly, Fasan ( one could go)

     

    Lustig/Janko, Svietchenko, Boyata, Simonuvic, Mulgrew, Tierney

     

    Brown, Bitton, Christie, Armstrong, Roberts, Ajer ( when he arrives) Nesbitt and Henderson ( when back from loan)

     

    Griffiths

     

    A very decent group of players to build upon

     

    As previous add 4, 5, 6 to this squad with some decent quality, and watch us go with a decent Manager in place

     

     

    Hail Hail – mass to head to first

  23. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    ANTIPODEAN RED on 24TH APRIL 2016 8:58 AM

     

     

    I would suggest to you that the situation you describe and I recognise , is precisely where a coach must intervene.

     

    Forcefully.

     

    Possibly he encouraged a ” laid back’ , “cool ” Kaiser Franz approach.

     

    Doesn`t go with “rummel `em up ” approach which is what the hun fully demonstrated.

     

     

    I just don`t know , but Ronny never inspired me.

     

    Can`t possibly see how he inspired our team.

     

     

    12 midnight kick off tonight .

     

    Alarm on.

     

    :-)

  24. Cults – agree with what you say…….

     

    I’m hoping the Club finally deliver on their custodial responsibilities.

     

     

    The galling aspect is we should have never been in this position and now it is as invidious as one could imagine – a trajedy given the state of Sevco. However, we’ll soon see the mettle of Dermot and Co – fumble this and Car-Park activity is called for.

     

     

    Collins was a great player – but has limited capacity as a coach at a club like Celtic. Hope he goes.

     

     

    Get a decent spine into the team and we are not that far away…………….Domestic dominance should be assured but Europe is world away from us now………..that’s more to do with Bent Global Fitba’ than anything our bhoys have done or not done imo……..

     

     

    We’ll soon see, hopefully – the hun defeat will be a blessing in disguise. I think it will.

     

     

    HH

  25. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 24TH APRIL 2016 8:43 AM

     

    PETERLATCHFORDSBELLY on 24TH APRIL 2016 8:41 AM

     

     

    Ronny Deila, yes man to the end.

     

     

     

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    Is it just possible that Ronny knows P.L. better than you do ?

     

     

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    PETERLATCHFORDSBELLY on 24TH APRIL 2016 9:07 AM

     

    Macjay

     

     

     

    Yes. So what?

     

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    So,with respect , I`ll believe Ronny`s opinion before believing yours.

  26. Stairheedrammy on

    Child abuse is something that parts of the Sevco support are obsessed with, but certainly not a subject I would see as top banter.

  27. Mountblow tim on

    Good morning CQN

     

     

    Just getting myself ready to go to the game today

     

     

    Looking forward to a right good game / result

     

    From the Bhoys

     

     

    Come on you Bhoys in Green and White

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    Mt

  28. channelislandcelt on

    TinyTim @7.53

     

     

    Are you seriously giving The Huns credit for that despicable banner ? IMO FOCUS should be rattling doors and lifting whoever was responsible for it .

     

    As for your summary of on field events ,I am sorry but it matches the opinion of every thick as mince Hun I have had the misfortune of crossing paths with in the last seven days .

     

     

    HH

  29. Good morning friends and Happy MAtchday from a currently dry but cloudy (the dark grey ones) East Kilbride.

     

     

    Expecting a decent atmosphere today as all fans do their bit to help the team get the victory that will put us 11 points clear with 4 to go.

     

     

    In other news, any opinions on a new Skoda Fabia? ;-)

     

     

    therandomnessofcqnCSC

  30. Would you rather be the champions of the second division with a “decent” manager, or,

     

    about to clinch your 5th SPL championship in a row with a poor manager?

     

     

    C’MON THE CELTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. JOBO BALDIE

     

     

    My neighbour currently on her third and raves about them.

     

     

    Volkswagen engineering (I think) so mind they emissions.

  32. ALASDAIR MACLEAN:

     

     

    How without equal in beauty and essence a heart that beats for Scotland and the Scots.

  33. CultsBhoy can not relate to Celtic Board ambitions on or off the park on

    Channelislandcelt

     

     

    The banners were sufficiently non specific to avoid any criminal conviction – nobody was named.

     

     

    I also think given the absolute pelters they have taken for 4 years it is delusional to believe they would lie down for ever meekly taking a doing.

     

     

    I’m not a fan of banners attacking / winding up opposition as I feel it can only incite hatred and violence.

     

     

    It does indicate that both sets of fans are in fact obsessed with each other and that the ‘old Firm’ is alive and well in the minds of many supporters ..

  34. Why are tickets for the home game against the sheep £3.00 dearer than the Ross County and Motherwell games?