Gloriously difficult sincerity

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Ruud Gullit is now telling us what a wonder-kid Karamoko Dembele is! The portents on this one are not good. The best thing for Karamoko right now would be to be left alone to develop his talent for three years. Comments from international stars is the last thing the boy needs.

I suspect the unprecedented frenzy which greeted his substitute appearance at Cappielow caught his mentors off guard. The decision to play him was made on football grounds; he’d earned the right to be there so was given the chance. That’s fair enough, you can’t hold a player back, no matter what his age. If he’s not challenged you right inhibiting his development, but the best thing for Karamoko would be a long stretch of anonymity.

I can’t get overexcited at Joey Barton charged with betting on 44 football games against SFA rules during his first few months in Scotland. While the same rule applies in England, Newco don’t play in England, so offenses there have been less prevalent, and therefore the rule is less prominent. A cursory punishment would be appropriate.

The media coverage of Barton this morning gives a fascinating slant on what is already a hoary old story. Joey, we are told, may be able to work his way back into his manger’s plans if he is sufficiently sincere when they meet early next week. Joey, of course, is always sincere.

You’ll seldom encounter people with the most alarming thought processes and in any way doubt their sincerity.

If anything, Joey’s persona could do with a little less frankness. Not for the first time, the Newco management will be measuring the wrong metric when trying to assess Barton.

They’re stuck with him, in all his gloriously difficult sincerity.

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  1. TGM

     

    Yer shite is boring and I get to your first post and chuck it, so aye you do keep me away from here, and a few others have told me the same

  2. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Masty

     

     

    What dont you get?…your lifelong fellow tim pal is accusing decent Celtic fans of grooming…whatever meaning you want to use.

     

    That is fecking lies

  3. Let’s change grooming to ….. encouraging ,advising ,persuading forcing nope still don’t work for me …in the main young folk will do what young folk want to,fly flags ,sing songs of hope and joy, jump about and generally do things that annoy the crap out of most old (ahem) gits….. were we never like that. ?

     

     

    Aff oot to annoy some young yins by wandering aimlessly through bognor

  4. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Repost from two months ago,I’ve deleted the name of the original poster.

     

     

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    S…… on 1st September 2016 5:13 pm

     

     

    Paul67 on 1st September 2016 5:03 pm

     

     

    Tony Donnelly, “I use the word ‘grooming’ because I know it gets under their skin. They fall for it hook line and sinker.” “I also know i’m not breaking any rules”.

     

     

    I beg to differ.

     

     

    This is the definition of trolling. If you want to troll people, do it elsewhere, it is explicitly against CQN rules. It also achieves the distress you suggest to want on CQN. I am happy to protect you from abuse here, but cannot have you are actively pursuing it.

     

     

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    Phnar, phnar, Tony Donnelly’s being told to stop ‘grooming’…

     

     

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    As I said earlier,TD was asked politely but firmly to cease his use of that term.

  5. Jobo,

     

     

    Such a shame. It’s a great read this morning. :0

     

     

    Oh and a belated many happy returns to ol bsr. Wan o the best.

     

     

     

    HH

  6. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Masty

     

     

    Oh violins is it now.

     

    That bad bad green man eh

     

    Dont fecking insult me.

     

    You or your pal can dish it out….so you will take it back as well.

  7. Bobby

     

    There’s only one person that can tell someone on here to stop saying things on here mate,

     

     

    I couldn’t give a monkeys what TD says in here, he’s auld , big and certainly ugly enough to defend himself, a trait that sticks i a lot of craws in here,

     

    And to finish

     

     

     

     

     

    How are ye pal?

  8. My friends in Celtic,

     

     

    After one of the most sad but heartening posts this morning I see International week symptoms in evidence on CQN.

     

     

    Maybe it’s just me, but I love the advert where Frankie Bhoy tells us to get our Boilers protected. It’s the best way he says.

     

     

    What does Frankie know about Boilers though?

     

     

    HH.

  9. TGM

     

    Take what exactly?

     

     

    You see I’m different from you, I know this is just a blog, canny get hurt from daft words, ohh and I canny play the violin,

  10. BMCW

     

     

    I’ll send an e mail to Paul and ask him why he is banning words in my post and taking them out of context, as your posts are not the end all, but the one about my brother? You haven’t clarified that yet, would you care to?

  11. TONYDON:NELLY67:

     

     

    If I remember correctly, the Scottish police warned that if anybody flew a Palestinian flag at Parkhead that night then they would be subject to arrest. Were there any arrests? Were there any belated arrests after the scenes of support for the oppressed people of Palestine went viral around the world on both social and main stream media? If not why not?

     

     

    Freedom of speech is a right, whether you agree with what is being said or not. Even fourteen year old people have a working brain and are entitled to speak as they believe. They are human and entitled to all human rights in the country in which they abide.

     

     

    As they believe… and if they aren’t breaking a law by waving a few flags as opposed highlighting cultural genocide… then who crowned you Pontius Pilate?

     

     

    Whether you agree with there actions or not, a vast percentage of the caring world lauded them their flag waving.

     

     

    JFK you are not.

  12. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Masty

     

     

    Take back = you give me stick, i will give it back….ditto etc

     

     

    I get what you are saying, and i agree…..Its only a blog, but we dont need trolls trying to cause it, because they know they will get a reaction.

     

    Celtic supporters get enough s***, without posters on CQN telling blatant lies.

     

    And…..I think ive been on about three times at most in the last few weeks, so im hardly hogging the blog.

     

    We was the last time we spoke?

  13. MASTY on 7TH OCTOBER 2016 11:34 AM

     

     

    Paul67 has asked him to stop using the term. Continuing to do so is simply abusing his host’s hospitality.

  14. KITALBA

     

     

    WELL ! You see the thing is, I didn’t laud it, so what’s your point, you saying I should have? I’m not allowed to think for myself? Or have my opinion on things, like the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians? Seriously?

  15. TGM

     

    See this is were the disagreement arrives, he’s not telling lies, he’s just explaining himself badly, hardly a crime, Tony now knows it annoys you, good luck with that

  16. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    I mean…look at the s*** ive had today….all because i took exception to a poster lying about Celtic fans.

     

    Yes indeed.

     

    And im supposed to shut up about it.

     

    Ha, Ha…as if.

  17. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MASTY

     

     

    It was from another poster,repeating a post from PAUL67.

     

     

    As I said,a polite but firm request from our host not to use that word.

     

     

    Sadly ignored.

     

     

    Me,I’m fine and dandy,bud. Two weeks wi the family,canny beat it.

     

     

    Hope yer swell…

  18. Weeminger

     

    As I have not been on much in the last couple of months, I must’ve missed that, why’s he not been banned then?

  19. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Masty

     

     

    If he meant something else…maybe he should have used another word?

     

    Maybe he should have refrained from using a word and association, that was bound to upset posters on CQN.

     

    Or maybe that was the intention in the first place?

     

    Scroll back to BMCUWP’s post….Two months ago, posters were asking him to stop.

     

    I just want him to stop slandering my family and friends….dont think thats too much to ask.

  20. Masty,

     

     

    Using the onomatopoeic “phnar” is a sign of a “South of the Rio Tweed” misspent youth, hunched in a darkened room watching repeat after repeat of Terry Thomas, Kenneth Williams and Sid James trading double-entendres with Hattie Jacques, Joan Sims and Barbara Windsor.

     

    :) :) :)

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Matt

  21. Saint Stivs says SACK THE BOARD on

    young celtic fans protesting about something and standing up for an oppressed minoroty somewhere in the world, then raising funds for a cause.

     

     

    makes me proud so it does.

  22. Simmer down Tony, I think you are a much maligned sweet hearted guy, my point is simply, you are perfectly entitled to your opinion, it is your right, and should be above reproach – as your right, whether you are talking crap, political crap, parochial crap, or any other kind of crap or not. AND just as it is your right… to bleat off, then by extension I am sure you too are man enough to acknowledge that that very same rights extended to you as a valued individual, should -and must – be extended to all.

     

     

    Whether you agree with their bleats or not….

  23. WEEMINGER

     

    Paul has not asked me, that’s what BMCW posted, I’ve yet to hear from Paul on it. And if the sentence ” groomed for waving flags and causing trouble at Celtic park is banned” then it’s the last you’ll see of me on hear, no great loss I’m sure, but my old man fought in ww I I for me to have that right to have A freedom of speech, and if it’s banned now all of a sudden, then I’m afraid Paul has been got at, but let’s see how it pans out.

  24. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS:

     

     

    Please, sincerely, which is the word that we have been asked to refrain from using??? (sincere)

  25. Mathew

     

    Couldn’t have put it any better myself mate,

     

    Thought i might have seen you last Friday at the waddin

  26. South Of Tunis on

    FNAR .

     

     

    My children read Viz – that meant I did too .

     

     

    FNAR FNAR -catchphrase of a character called Finbar Saunders who specialised in double entendres –

     

     

    ” What are you doing in the kitchen Finbar? ”

     

     

    ” I’m beating my meat whilst watching Nigella , Fnar Fnar “

  27. Kit

     

    Look at Tony’s post above yours, a few in here have refused to take the entire sentence in to context, instead using another connotation of one word in the sentence to attack Tony,

  28. Masty,

     

     

    I was photographed in chief and therefore remained river until I had recorded enough antics for posterity and possible blackmail.

     

     

    I have now downloaded them all for tarting up, removing wrinkles, repositioning wandering hands and for the singing videos, to make it round like the chanters knew the words and the key.

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Matt

  29. I demand FREEDOM OF SPEECH FOR ME, and you TOO as long as you agree with ME.

     

     

    Babe, Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies, Churchill…. it was one of them or maybe another.

  30. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    KITALBA

     

     

    This is the original request from PAUL67. It refers to a quote,seemingly sent to Paul,from TD.

     

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    Paul67 on 1st September 2016 5:03 pm

     

     

     

    Tony Donnelly, “I use the word ‘grooming’ because I know it gets under their skin. They fall for it hook line and sinker.” “I also know i’m not breaking any rules”.

     

     

    I beg to differ.

     

     

    This is the definition of trolling. If you want to troll people, do it elsewhere, it is explicitly against CQN rules. It also achieves the distress you suggest to want on CQN. I am happy to protect you from abuse here, but cannot have you are actively pursuing it.

     

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    From that,it seems Paul has asked TD to refrain from the use of ‘grooming’ as it is pejorative and also because he is using it to “get under their skin”

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