You and I have been doing this long enough to remember this place in meltdown at the prospect of Celtic signing a player from another SPL club. Domestically sourced talent was regarded as unimaginative, cheap, even. Contrast this with the utter joy when we signed Koki Mizuno, who was full-on exotic, but built for finer things then competitive football.
At 29, Aberdeen’s Irish international midfielder, Jonny Hayes is certainly unimaginative, and may be comparatively cheap, but he’s also a low-risk option for Celtic, who will know what they could get (and what they will not get) from the player.
With Patrick Roberts due to report to Manchester City on his return from holiday, Celtic are short of options for right-mid, with the first Champions League qualifier only five weeks away. The manager will view this gap in his squad as an unnecessary risk to next season’s objectives.
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Philbhoy
I don’t see why that was below the belt?
A threat to our children is a threat no matter the ethnicity of the perpetrator/s. They killed innocents by any means to suit their warped agendas.
A threat is a threat and therefor treated the same no matter who.
And remember the individual who killed Dunblanes young children had a gun licence and was deemed a reasonable man to own guns (plural).
The thought of going down the American route scares the living shit out of me more than any threat from radicalised loonies. Put a gun in the hands of an evil man then expect consequences.
If that’s the Scotland you want and it comes to that then I’ll be moving out. I wouldn’t want to ever have to teach my son how to fire a gun for his own defence.
Yeah. It may stop or hinder an occasional terrorist but imagine our cities on a Saturday night when the pubs empty.
MWD
Almore,
That GCC are an Ezekiel 3:20.
Go CaFe Go.
Celtic are Magic as you Know.
The Great War For Civilisation by Robert Fisk well worth a read
Bit dated in the sense that it was written maybe 10 years ago and obviously doesnt include recent events like the Arab Spring and the rise of ISIS but traces western meddling in the Middle East from the break up of the Ottoman Empire at the end of WWI up to 2005.
It helped give me an insight into this troubled region and its relationship with the west
Nothing can excuse the recent events that we have seen in Paris Berlin Manchester and London….but there are reasons why these things have come to pass.
Thanks for the response Ernie. Sorry I took up your time. I never intended to to intrude on grieving time. Apologies to all.
Night all. The Manchester concert was a triumph.
That is a cynical old Cnut speaking by the way.
MWD
OK, What is the answer?
You can’t talk to these people.
Are you saying we should take what is coming our way, no matter what?
Or should we fight whatever way we can to preserve our families and our way of life?
You obviously don’t have any Irish relatives?
I do and I am grateful they fought for their beliefs and way of life.
What is the alternative Danny, seriously?
Loggin’ off.
Something must be done.
This is something.
Then that is what we must do.
Surely the question is moot? There’s no way the British State will allow civilians to carry guns legally – it would create a much bigger problem and easy access for looneys to get hold of them and carry out more attacks.
However, if people feel the State is no longer able to protect them adequately then they may seek to acquire weapons themselves. No idea how possible that is – wouldn’t think it would be easy for your average Joe.
Either way – not sure it would help much against a crazy driving a Transit van at you.
The police responded quickly in the latest incident and shot 3 dead, but by that time many people had already been killed and injured. Problem is how to prevent an attack.
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Philbhoy
It’s our politicians you should be asking that question of directly! Firstly a complete change in foreign policy is required. Stop arming those who threaten us because at some point, for a wee while, they are on the same side against a common enemy such as the Russians in Afghanistan or Assad in Syria. Stop treating the rest of the world like you own it and all it’s resources.
A feel no more at threat from one of these attacks as I did when I demonstrated on the streets when Blair the warmongering (insert expletive) took the country to war at American insistence in the early part of the century. We all knew what evils that would return on us.
If you want a gun to protect your family then I also advise a rocket launcher to stop the lorries or a tank so you can drive around your family in complete safety.
Where does it end buddy?
I don’t know the answer to your question but putting guns in the hands of anyone and everyone is going to be a greater risk to O on a normal weekend night out than any threat from a radicalised individual or individuals.
MWD
Cyprus for me for obvious reasons.1 hour flight.Apoel could be as dodgy as the rest of the games though.
Petec: Support for the café is growing:-)
Keep it lit
NATKNOW on 4TH JUNE 2017 10:16 PM
So once we’ve all got guns, do you reckon it would be OK to open fire on any dodgy looking white vans?
Just to be on the safe side.
I mean you can’t be too careful.
Not nowadays, with all these lunatics running about the place.
ernie lynch
The Hegelian Dialectic springs to mind.
Create in a bad fashion.
Thank the Almighty for Celtic…. Thanks also that we are sold out Every game now.
The idea of terrorising is to create fear.
I don’t want anyone hurt, least of all Celtic supporters. The Truth is, we are all vulnerable now.
We always have been. ;)
But for the Grace of God.
Ernie Lynch
Id like to hear your solution for stopping violence.
HH
ERNIE LYNCH on 4TH JUNE 2017 10:20 PM
NATKNOW on 4TH JUNE 2017 10:16 PM
So once we’ve all got guns, do you reckon it would be OK to open fire on any dodgy looking white vans?
Just to be on the safe side.
I mean you can’t be too careful.
Not nowadays, with all these lunatics running about the place.
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I think you’ve misunderstood me. What I’m saying is :
– Some people may attempt to take things into their own hands.
– Even if they did this would not protect them against random van attacks.
I’m not advocating people trying to acquire weapons.
No need to remind me about lunatics – I read their rantings every day on here. :-)
Almore
It will happen.
Hallelujah
My take on the overnight and earlier discussions on the London attack.
Feel free to disagree, contradict or reject completely.
These attacks are not about revenge for killings in any part of the Middle East.
A symptom of the struggle within Islam is the death of a shopkeeper in Glasgow in March 2016.
He was executed by another Moslem, a Sunni, who felt the shopkeeper, Asad Shah, was disrespecting the Prophet. Asad was an Ahmadi.
We are generally ignorant of the deep divisions within the many branches of the main strands of Islam, Sunni and Shia.
The strict Saudi version of Islam is derived from the Wahhabi fundamentalist interpretation of the Koran. The ministry of Islamic Affairs in Riyadh is responsible for the financing of mosques and clerics adhering to the extreme views and also finances mosques and clerics throughout the Christian western countries.
Inside Saudi, all non aherents to the violent fundamentalism of Wahhabism are persecuted. Not just Christians, Jews, Hindus etc, but Shia, Ahmadis, Sufis are all “infidels” according to Saudi Sharia law.
These overseas clerics are weaponising impressionable pliable faithful throughout Europe to help bring about the Caliphate and the destruction of all other faiths.
These attacks are not just revenge attacks for Moslem deaths, they themselves have killed far more Moslems than “infidels” have. They are a message to all other sects/denominations/branches that there is only one true version of the law.
They also act to discourage any moderate Moslems from relaxing their attitude to western civilization, assimilation in their host countries or compromising their fundamentalism.
The solution only lies in Saudis reining in their activities, by cutting off funding, softening the attitude to all other religions and by becoming a more secular state.
Not something I foresee in my lifetime.
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 4TH JUNE 2017 10:23 PM
‘Id like to hear your solution for stopping violence.’
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Do you mean all violence everywhere?
Of course you don’t, that’s just stupid.
You mean the particular incidents of violence perpetrated recently here in the UK by a few fanatical nutters. I assume that’s what you mean, because that’s the violence that concerns us most. The other stuff doesn’t bother us so much.
I don’t think there is a solution. Certainly not a short term one.
I think we just learn to live with it.
Maybe reappraise some foreign policy issues to try to avoid making the situation worse.
And carry on as best we can.
Ernie,every time is the same.You will perpetuate any argument you are involved in,as long as it is not football,with your know it all manner.Give it a rest.
The only transfer rumour I will be believing is the one that Paddy is on his way back.The fee quoted of 12 million,is what worries me with the story.This was with add ons .Think they paid 5 million upfront.If the journalist is lazy on his facts,could be on the story as well.
I hope to God it is true.
Saudis finger prints are over everything.
If there is one country that deserves to be bombed for attrocities it is that untouchable country.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/15/bae.armstrade?CMP=share_btn_tw before any other that they partly want to control alongside the US.
MWD
INVINCIBLE ‘GG
Don’t get me started dude.
The Warning sign was a dude going from Bradford to kill a shop keeper in Glasgow – Happy to take any Sentence coming. What a message of fear to send out.
Nasty but it is not Islam that is the problem, Satan is the one who is going to maximum power before he is put in his place.
INVINCIBLE ‘GG on 4TH JUNE 2017 10:33 PM
Reasonable points.
Not as much fun as getting a gun, but reasonable nonetheless.
I think it will be nearer 8 or 9m with a sell on clause for Patrick. Hayes still worth getting in as well – definitely an upgrade on GMS.
Ernie Lynch
Id say you got it in one….Foreign Policy.
Arming Saudi Arabia.
Part of a ‘Coalition’, who have just admitted killing 484 civilians recently….by mistake!
I hope Corbyn wins on Thursday, we might at least see some effort to address the iniquity of war as ‘business’
HH
Though for the day ( what’s left of it).
‘A man’s homeland is wherever he prospers.’
Aristophanes
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 4TH JUNE 2017 10:42 PM
I’d like to see relations with Saudi Arabia and Israel reconsidered.
War is a racquet.
Jimmynotpaul, I contact the Hippo on Facebook
The Hippo is one of many fine people I have met through work, as well as being a very funny guy. We last spoke face to face after Davie’s funeral . He was in a state of shock of Davie’s passing away but he said the memories of things Davie said and done would stay with him forever.
BhoyJoeBelfast, thanks for your reply , much appreciated. My respect for those who travel over from Eire for our games has grwn even more tonight . Thank you all again for your replies.
Ernie Lynch
The public suffer the consequences of government policy, thats clear.
A shift in thinking and approach is required.
If the Tories win on Thursday, there will be pain and much retribution, id prefer another way.
HH
I watched a lot of BT sports analysis tonight.
Big Chris is essential viewing.
When Lenny was on the panel it was superb viewing.
Brothers in Rhythm for sure.
Lenny, I think, will make Hibs 2nd best next Season. And that will really be Something.
Almore.at 9.55, exactly .
The cafe when it apears should be named after you
1 banana, 2 banana, 3 banana…. 4
Petec 10.54pm
Neil Francis is one of my favourites, he was brilliant last Sunday in the legends game….
“There’s only one Neil Lennon, there’s only one Neil Lennon
Like me & you, he laughs at The Sevco too
Walking a Lenny wonderland “
H2O
Here we GO.
Gerry Bhoy.
Celtic is Magical.
I know that you know that I know that you know CELTIC is Incredible.
I dont get involved in the serious issues on here,
but i am amazed at people thinking the solution to the violence is to allow us all to carry weapons