Q. So you were a Rangers season ticket holder, when did you stop?
A. A few years ago. I work weekends and was seldom getting to games.
Q. How do you feel about how Rangers were treated in 2012?
A. How do any of us feel? It wasn’t our fault, one guy came in and did all the damage, then sinister forces took advantage. Every last one of us feel the same way.
Q. How do you feel about the League Cup semi-final, are you looking forward to it?
A. Not really, but we need to do whatever it takes to make sure we don’t get embarrassed. Years of being subjected to the effects of what Charles Green called “bigotry” means we need to fight with everything we’ve got. We can’t let Celtic embarrass us, need to stand up to them.
Q. Thanks, Robert. One more question, are you available to referee that game?
A. You know me, aye ready!
The forthcoming League Cup semi-final will be one of the most difficult games to referee and police in the history of Scottish football. The police will have their most experience Match Commander on duty. The SFA will not have their most experienced referee on duty, instead they have given the game to former Rangers season ticket holder, Bobby Madden.
The authorities must be independent and be seen to be independent. Former season ticket holders are acceptable and welcome as referees, but when you face extraordinary circumstances, take extraordinary care in selecting your referee. I don’t know a single ‘Rangers’ fan who doesn’t have animated views on what happened in recent years. They want to beat us next month more than at any time in original-Rangers 140-year history. Why is one of them the referee?
Craig Thomson is widely regarded as unaligned and Scotland’s top official. There must be a story explaining why he wasn’t given the game.
Our team selection for the League Cup semi-final doesn’t bother me. We can have Scepovic, Guidetti, Stokes or Griffiths up front, Efe and Charlie at the back, I’d still back us to win. Can’t say I’m too worried about the other lot either, even if they manage to hold onto all their, ‘stars’.
What does concern me is how the game is refereed. Before it, CQN will write about how important it will be to keep 11 men on the field, not to dive into tackles inside our penalty area, and not to get drawn into a levelling battle.
You can write the script about how this one is going to play out, we’ll be kicked, elbowed and incited, with liberal dramatic tumbles taken in and around our box. In a decade writing CQN I’ve only discussed referees around a dozen times but the selection for this one is alarming. Mr Madden will be scrutinised more than at any time in his professional life. He has an enormous challenge ahead.
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I have no problem with Mr Madden ref’ing the game
He was after all a supporter of a now defunct team, and has never supported Newco.
I’m sure he has no allegiances to the franchise now playing out of Ibrox
A wise choice by the SFA.
HH
It was over in nine minutes. Friday 15th June 2012 was the day that Rangers died.
Their creditors drifted in through Exit 50 at Ibrox Stadium just before 10am and by 10.09am they were on their way out. In those few minutes 140 years of history had been rubbed out.
Of the few owed money by the club who attended the meeting at the Ibrox Suite most didn’t want to talk, and the few that did struggled.
“We’re in shock,” admitted debenture holder Stewart Boal. “The club’s gone. We’ve got to move on and start again.”
In truth, everyone knew the meeting was a mere formality after HMRC announced earlier that week that it would reject Charles Green’s terms for a company voluntary arrangement (CVA).
Few of the 276 creditors, who were owed somewhere in the region of £134 million and range from a face painter and magician to the local newsagent, turned up for the meeting. Those that did were clearly shocked by the speed of the club’s end. Asked to sum up his feelings, as he left Ibrox, Mr Boal said he found the whole thing “unreal, very, very sad”.
I don’t like Madden as a ref but it’s nothing to do with his allegiances to the team previously known as Rangers. Although that makes it worse.
He’s one of these refs that helps make Scottish football suitable for thugs. It’s a man’s game and all that tosh as the good players are kicked out the game. Hang on you’ve only fouled the skilful player 4 times, have another couple of shots at him before I book you.
They could have Walter smith refereeing the game and it wouldn’t matter, we are streets ahead of them and will pump them with plenty to spare.
It could even work against them having a known Orc refereeing, he might try and show he’s not bias wouldn’t count on it though HH
This afternoon’s addition to that ever expanding and ever so speculative Inter shopping list.
Tolgay Arslan (Hamburg / central midfielder ).
A tv reporter asked Mancini about his shopping list last night and got this in reply —-
” Some of it is true , most of it is a fabrication.”
Jungle Jim
The guy who refereed the Celtic game on Monday night is a Celtic fan.
Madden may have had a season ticket at Ibrox in the past but I doubt he ever had a season ticket for our opponents on 1st February.
I’m not sure I like the tone of the article. I don’t have a problem with the fact that Madden had a season ticket for Oldco Rangers.I have concerns that he is a referee who has put in numerous woeful performances in the last few years.
Having said that, he was the referee when Hibs bet Sevco 4-0. We have to go out and beat this mob, no excuses. We are a much better team than them and it’s up to us to show it.
What was it you were saying yesterday about Deila’s positive comments about Rugby Park pitch and the importance of not making excuses, Paul?!
Jungle Jim,
I’m not bothered about any Celtic supporting refs just fair ones, these listed below hated our club with a vengeance, please feel free to add to this list.
JPR Gordon
RH Davidson
J McCluskey
R Tait
M McCurry
D McDonald
R Madden
Compare these middens with the treatment meted out to Kevin O’Donnell in the 80’s
AR
Jungle Jim
I know of one very prominent former Grade 1 referee who definitely was one before he embarked on his refereeing career.
If you don’t go to the semi-final you can be far from the Madden crowd.
The honest cover-up
13:21 on 7 January, 2015
If your where a ST holder at rangers or now a ST holder at sevco your still a hun who hates Celtic, so madden might never have been a sevco STH but he’s still a Hun.
Referee .
Memories of ” entertaining ” a visiting bureaucrat from Lisbon ( a Benfica man ) by taking him to a Hertz v Hibs game . He was bemused big time by the blood , snotters and all in wrestling on display and was moved to comment that the Ref would have been better in the stand awarding points for fighting skill.
When it came to us and the died mob, there were always controversy.
Taken From
http://www.ntvcelticfanzine.com/editorials/ed%20104%20campbell.htm
Older Celtic followers still seethe with indignation at the antics of such referees as M. C. Dale at the Victory Cup semi-final in 1946 who ordered off two Celtic players, later reporting a third (Matt Lynch) who received a month’s suspension. After the contest, the referee, reportedly, was so drunk that he required assistance from the SFA secretary to complete his match report – and Celtic directors had drawn their concerns to the attention of the secretary of the SFA at half time, before the trouble really started!
That incident marked the height of the nonsense, but the evidence is overwhelming that Celtic consistently received very questionable treatment from the match officials in contests with Rangers. Accordingly, suspicion about the impartiality of referees has been a constant factor in the make-up of Celtic supporters, based on fact, sustained by folk memory – but too often presented as an excuse for failure. It was much easier to give a decision Rangers’ way rather than Celtic’s – as Jim Callaghan found out in 1969 when he decided (wrongly) not to order off Celtic’s John Hughes for a foul committed off the ball and behind his back. Callaghan, a highly regarded FIFA referee, was suspended for eight weeks after Rangers had lodged a protest a week after that League Cup match, won 1:0 by Celtic.
Remeber the penalty he awarded to Dundee United at Celtic Park last season? United never even claimed for it.
Paul
Not sure if already said, but we discussed ref situation a couple of weeks back on the blog, and someone mentioned Collum and Thomson had a UEFA thing that weekend
But surely someone else other than Madden?
Hunbelievable
Tommy twists Tommy Turns at 12.44
I couldnt agree more, our so called softly softly approach doesnt seem to be deterring the authorities from giving sevco a helping hand at every opportunity
a good post!
Travellerbhoy
Congratulations to Mary-Ellen.
Hope you have saved for a car :)))))
Why scrutinise Madden, he is only the patsy, it’s the Honest, Tolerant & incorruptible SEA that should be under the microscope for this one.
Bring on the bigots!
Why is anybody surprised that a hun referee will ref the Celtic v sevco game.
In the most blatantly corrupt league in Europe….im not surprised in the least, I expected it.
They need the help of hun refs…er, that’s been happening for a long, long time.
As someone said, If you pay to watch a rigged game, you deserve it.
I think it would make a huge point, if Celtic fans refused to buy in to the bigoted old firm plan….if you are unhappy about the corruption, you can make your point..by refusing to prop up corruption.
If fans wont buy into it….they will have to think of something else, like getting there on their own merits.
HH
It’s not Madden who is the problem ,he is what he is its the in your face get it right up you Timmy ,we will do what we want and you will do hee haw about it again.
Couldn’t care less who the ref is for a game sceduled for February. Couldn’t care less for that game at the moment.
The League Cup is only important in the context of being a necessary part of any Treble, a feat we have only done what 3 times? The League Cup is the least important of the 4 competitions we are currently involved in. The League Cup’s importance does not increase regardless of who our particular opponents happen to be.
backtoworkCSC
Examples of Bobby “ex season ticket holder at Ibrox” Madden decisions:-
1. Very soft penalty awarded to D Utd v Celtic – Feb 2013 source Daily Record “Bobby Madden also made a ludicrous decision in the first half when he penalised Adam Matthews for an imaginary tug on Gary Mackay-Steven in the box. After the controversy surrounding Spanish whistler Alberto Mallenco’s display in the midweek defeat to Juventus, Lennon joked: “I wish Bobby Madden had been refereeing on Tuesday.
“The ref said Adam had tugged his shirt or shorts. But he won the ball cleanly – there was no contact.”
2. Very soft penalty for St Mirren v Celtic 31 Mar 2013 Source BBC Sport:-
PENALTY
St Mirren have a spot-kick as Esmael Goncalves goes to ground on the edge of the box. It looks like another shocker from referee Bobby Madden, who has been duped by a dive. Emilio Izaguirre was the player judged to have committed the foul and he is fuming!
The debate on the competency of referee Bobby Madden will rage on but it has detracted from what was a very decent showing from St Mirren, who deserved their point, even though the penalty award in their favour was shocking.
3. Madden sends off Wanyama v St Mirren 31 Mar 2013 – Source Evening Times –
Celtic star Wanyama shocked to be shown red card
VICTOR WANYAMA today revealed he was surprised to be shown ANY colour of card at Paisley on Sunday – let alone a red one.
The Celtic midfielder has now appealed against the decision by referee Bobby Madden to send him off for a challenge on Paul McGowan.
The tribunal hearing will take place a week tomorrow, which means Wanyama will be free to play against Hibs on Saturday when he hopes to help the Hoops clinch the SPL title.
The Kenyan hopes to have the two-game ban he faces – he would miss the William Hill Scottish Cup semi-final against Dundee United then the first SPL game after the split – removed.
He is adamant he has no case to answer, and said of the sending off: “I was very angry because I thought it (the red card) was too soft. I watched it again and I don’t think it was a bad tackle.
“When I was going into the tackle, my aim was to get the ball.
“I saw I couldn’t touch the ball, so I left my leg up to block the ball.
STV Sport – Madden demoted two divisions after above game:-
Referee Bobby Madden has been appointed to the Second Division match between Arbroath and Albion Rovers this weekend.
The official had an error-strewn performance in his last outing, taking charge of St Mirren’s 1-1 draw with Celtic.
Neil Lennon described Madden’s showing as “appalling” in a game which saw the Buddies given a penalty when Esmael Goncalves dived outside the box.
Amongst other incidents, Victor Wanyama was also sent off by the referee, a decision which Celtic have appealed. A hearing will take place on Thursday, April 11.
Hibs v Rangers 27 Dec 2014 – Evening News :- On the hour mark, Rangers won a corner and as they were about to take it, Lee McCulloch pushed Paul Hanlon to the ground. Referee Bobby Madden immediately blew his whistle then to the astonishment to everyone in the stadium warned HANLON about his behaviour !!!!!!!!!
BBC – Some of Rangers’ woes were self-inflicted, though, since Ian Black was booked for a reckless and crude lunging tackle, and was substituted before half-time because McDowall clearly felt that he could not restrain his tackling.
Black wasn’t happy, and kicked the dugout after being replaced by Kyle Hutton. On most occasions this would have been a red card.
Deary deary me
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It’s not Madden who is the problem ,he is what he is its the in your face get it right up you Timmy ,we will do what we want and you will do hee haw about it again Mob on the 6th foor at Hundump that is the problem
antipodean red – RH Davidson (Airdrie) stands head and shoulders above all the others in your list.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?url=http://celticunderground.net/neil-lennon-a-football-witch-hunt/&rct=j&frm=1&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ei=oTatVNSXPIuzUYChhFA&ved=0CBYQ9QEwAA&usg=AFQjCNEDq_ZcWEa5YQu9ryfLZzkqp_5LAQ
He may have refereed sevco defeats but that pile of shoite are so bad that they probably lost despite his refereeing.
Different matter when it comes to Celtic. Part and parcel of being a hun involves, lets be charitable, an active dislike of us and an inabilty to be even handed where we are concerned.
I have no doubt that we will beat the zombies but the victory may be Pyrrhic, with possible injuries and cards galore.
Madden can not be considered impartial where CELTIC are involved and should be nowhere near this match.
jeez_I_thought_blinker_was_pants
13:32 on 7 January, 2015
Remeber the penalty he awarded to Dundee United at Celtic Park last season? United never even claimed for it.
Aye and did he not book Adam
Yesterday’s article was spot on. We had the attitude that the Killie pitch was ok. Similarly we should not worry too much about the referee. Class (especially attitude) will see this through comfortably.
“If you’re good enough, the referee doesn’t matter.”
Jock Stein
Is rosemarys baby Dallas available to run the line ?
Let’s run a wee CQN poll and someone who’s clever and not supoosed to be working ( in not me !) can collate it .
Your top three honest mistakes:-
I’ll kick off with
1. Jorge Cadete’s chalked off goal at Ibrox
2. Collums penalty seen with the eyes in the back of his head.
3. Broonies sending off at Ibrox by Dougie.
4. Dougies farces at Dundee Utd
5 Jim Farry’s Cadete delay.
6. Bougherra fouling Keane about 8 times after his first booking
7.Fortune’s chopped off goal.
8. The minister’s entire performance against Dundee Utd at Ibrox – the one that resulted in Levein going into orbit/being offered the Scotland job.
9 Mulgrew’s sending off at Ibrox when with Aberdeen.
10 Them getting three (count ’em) at Dens Park
I know I said three but when you start thinking about them…(and those are the ones just off the top of my head.)
I just laugh when I see the blatant hun corruption, sadly, its nothing new.
What do you expect from huns, its the only way they can operate, by cheating.
Now….they only way I can see to make a protest, is to refuse to attend their bigoted resurrection of the old firm.
I laugh, glad that I wont be contributing to their sectarian flagship game in any way.
Bigotry and corruption….no thanks.
Its just so blatant now, that its insulting.
We could give a massive two fingers to bailing out the huns, by not paying to be cheated….feck your bigoted old firm.
HH
Paul67
Dont want to always point finger at our board but should they not be at least highlighting this and asking for a change of ref ?
At least if its highlighted in public madden might not be so brazen.
Chris VC and others. Thanks. I asked because I was unaware of any and, had one existed, I would have thought our Media would have made sure we were all made very aware of the fact!
I`ve got a feeling Collum is reasonably fair but unreasonably useless.
JJ
THELONGWAITISOVER
McCurry watching us get booted all over the place and booking nine of our players before finally putting one of them in to even things out in the last minute?
And I’ll never forget JRP Gordon’s display in Jock’s last game at Ibrox. Bloody goal was offside,just to rub it in.
the long wait is over
Boruc being penalised for holding the ball, stepping over the 18 yard line when kicking it up field. In all my years watching football I’ve never seen real transgressions penalised… and Artur had released the ball before reaching the line.
There is a big difference between the state of the pitch, which affects both teams equally.
And the state if the referee, which aids one team and hinders the other.
the long wait is over
Boogie getting of withmanhandling ref as the MIB “never felt threatened”
Proudbhoy
I certainly wouldn`t ask for a change! As was pointed out, the replacement would hardly be likely to favour Celtic and would further know that he could make a plethora of ` honest mistakes` safe in the knowledge that Celtic, having asked for the change, would look churlish if they complained.
I would be happy, though, if they made a pretendedly light-hearted comment about his having been a ST holder at Ibrox.
JJ