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How Celtic lose cups: red cards and penalties

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I don’t know anyone who was confident Olivier Ntcham would score with his penalty against St Mirren earlier this month.  Our stats have been awful this season.  Ryan Christie scored his only attempt in a comfortable win over Hearts.  Moussa Dembele also scored his solitary attempt, against Alashkert, but Olivier and Scott Sinclair have each missed two, while Leigh Griffiths missed against Motherwell.  Seven out of 12 have been converted.

Those of you who are old enough to remember the last time Celtic did not win a domestic trophy will recall we went out of that particular Scottish Cup semi-final on penalties.

If you were Derek McInnes, you would have spent all week planning for this eventuality.  Hopefully, the point is not lost on Neil Lennon.  Celtic will take the game to Aberdeen, but if the tie is level in the latter stages of the initial 90 minute period, Aberdeen will sit every-deeper and play for penalties – which they will have a decent chance to win.

That reversal in the 2016 Scottish Cup semi-final aside, Celtic have only exited a cup tournament since Neil Lennon’s first tenure as manager after being reduced to 10 men.  Efe Ambrose conceded a penalty and was sent off in the 2016 League Cup semi-final against Ross County, and Craig Gordon was sent off in the 2016 Scottish Cup semi-final against Inverness.  The latter remains an infamous refereeing performance for the failure to award a penalty and red card Inverness’s Josh Meekings for punching a goal-bound header off the line.

Objectively, if Celtic are going to be stopped from collecting a treble treble, it is most likely to happen on Sunday, as a result of either a red card or a penalty kick competition.  We can plan for both.

Expect Aberdeen to wind up whomever they think is vulnerable to some referee attention – I’m looking at you, Scott.  The script has been written on this one.  Do not get drawn in, play the game on our terms, if anyone loses composure, let it be their daft full back (again).

None of us have confidence in our penalty takers, but practice helps (despite luddite beliefs).  Training will be light tomorrow.  It should consist exclusively of penalty kick practice.

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  1. Need to be vigilant versus a MIB inspired honest mistake.

     

     

    Need to highlight the MIB failures of the recent past.

     

    If we do the hard yards now Sunday will be a lot easier.

     

     

    One of the positives of the BR era was a reduction in cup honest mistakes.

     

    Not totally eliminated but they were kept under control.

  2. Surprises me the number of posters who assume Scott Sinclair is either:

     

     

    Being pushed out by Neil Lennon

     

     

    Being sold to cut the wage bill

     

     

     

     

     

     

    We have an option on his contract for another year that we have to exercise even if we want to sell him to get any value for him at all.

     

     

    Still a player who has scored 17 goals this season in a team that if we are honest has under performed for the whole season. Only Edouard and Forrest have scored more.

     

     

    Celtic made their worst start to a season for 20 years or so as we were constantly reminded by the hacks yet we are still comfortable in the league and in with a shout of a historic treble treble.

     

     

    Exercise the option and let the new manager decide on not only Sinclair quite a few others already mentioned on here. Some are guaranteed to leave like Gamboa, De Vries but let the new coaching team decide.

  3. Agüero and Mahrez, over a hundred million pounds worth of players, have both missed elf meter which could conceivably cost Citeh the quadruple. Hard to replicate the bottle- keeping moment in training.

  4. Jeez oh..its not Real Madrid we are playing.

     

     

    Hamilton, Herts amd Livy “materminded” results againts them in recent weeks.

     

     

    We just need to up the pace and have better first touches. The amount of time the ball is still in forward situations is where the issues lie.

     

     

    Keep the ball moving at all times,

  5. Paul67

     

     

    Bain

     

     

    Lustig

     

    Benkovic

     

    Ajer

     

    KT

     

     

    Brown

     

    McGregor

     

     

    Forrest

     

    Christie

     

    Sinclair

     

     

    Eddy

     

     

    Rogic and Ntcham from the bench later

     

     

    Best starting eleven IMHO CSC

  6. Interesting to find out what the team will be for Sunday?

     

     

    JF — Blowing hot and cold at the moment.

     

    Not very dynamic out wide and prone to bouts of the fear.

     

    Good enough to run the game from the RW but needs to be more pro-active.

     

     

    ScS — Really struggling at the moment to impose himself on the game.

     

    Very tentative, very unsure, very slow to make the play.

     

    Huge talent who is currently hiding in his shell.

     

     

    And then there are the decisions surrounding the MF3.

     

     

    CMcG / RC / TR vs SB / CMcG / ON ???!!!???

     

    Then we have NB and EH to put into the mix.

     

     

    Plus we might look to change the formation if we don’t want to play our loan players.

     

     

    Big challenge to pick the correct MF3 for Sunday.

     

    Huge challenge to pick the correct MF3 for next season.

     

    Need to re-vamp the squad to move onto the next level.

     

     

    We have more than enough talent to win the game.

     

    Unfortunately we need to put the talent on the park and tell it what to do.

     

     

    BR left us with a lots of issues to sort out.

     

    Patch and mend is the best NL can do at the moment.

  7. BSR @ 12.32

     

     

    ScS — Not sure where your confidence comes from?

     

    He is shot at the moment — confidence / attitude / desire …

     

     

    All have collapsed after a flicker in January.

     

     

    Finally loving the confidence regarding Sunday.

     

    We are not playing well at the moment plus we seem to be happy with stodge.

     

    Sunday will be a tight game unless we are totally focused and up for it.

     

     

    We have not been close to our best recently.

  8. SoT

     

     

    Paul was saying yesterday how we had never won 3 Scottish Cups consecutively.

     

     

    RH Davidson (Airdrie)’s, as you say, vile performance cost us four consecutive SCs, as we were holders, and won it in the following 2 years.

  9. That 1970 final.

     

     

    “Jock Stein gave referee Davidson a mouth full at full time and was fined £10 by the SFA. In later years Aberdeen boss Eddie Turnbull was asked if Davidson’s performance was that bad.

     

     

    He replied: ‘Put it this way, if I had been in big Jock’s shoes, I’d have had 20 quids’ worth!”

     

     

    From CelticWiki.

  10. We scored two memorable goals from well worked corner kicks routines in Lenny’s last spell in charge

     

     

    Charlie Mulgrew against the old Rangers in the last ever game against them and Wayama against Barca

     

     

    So he can improve this aspect of our game, I’m not sure why he hasn’t already

  11. South Of Tunis on

    BEATBHOY @ 12 43

     

     

    It was sickening . So much so , I never went to another one . Stuff that . Made even worse by the financial necessity of hitching from and to Cambridge . 2 bummer journeys to boot . Sometimes hitching was a skoosh , sometimes it wasn’t . Both of those journeys were hard work . Saturday night in the State Bar was miserable too . O Mi Miserum !

  12. MadMitch

     

     

    Nobody being overly confident is the key in any game of football, let alone against a very good Aberdeen side, who’ll demand a top class Celtic performance.

     

     

    We’ve every right to be at least professionally confident because we have the best side in the country © Seethen Gerrard. Scott Sinclair may or may not start, but most other wide men we have are a step downwards especially given his scoring record, which is second to none.

     

     

    If the Celtic fans thought it was going to be a walkover, we wouldn’t have sold out our ticket allocation, they could sit in the house and watch it on TV.

     

     

    IMHO csc

  13. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Train disruption again….

     

     

    train bosses have released information on work ongoing in the east of Glasgow and Lanarkshire on Sunday.

     

     

    Celtic’s Supporter Liaison Officers approached ScotRail for information on Twitter.

     

     

    Travel bosses responded by resharing a post that outlined the affected areas by track renewals.

     

     

    And they warned that some alterations to local services would be in force.

  14. We have missed so many vital penalties over the years – Champions League, UEFA Cup – against the old Rangers, in finals etc.

     

     

    Yet both versions of the huns hardly ever seem to miss any and if they do, it’s like Tavernier in that 4 penalty match – it didn’t make any difference.

  15. Moussa was the best penelty taker we’ve had.

     

     

    BR was the best Manager we’ve had since Stein.

     

     

    Both gone and £29m banked.

     

     

    Chances of winning trophies reduced.

     

     

    Simple really.

  16. Penalties are about technique and i believe certain players have this and some dont

     

     

    Some of the best dont

     

     

    I dont think Henrik, for example, was a particularly good penalty taker and was never confident when he stepped up to hit one.

     

     

    Guys like James Milner, a simple, no nonsense type of player are usually the best bet. I’m not sure if we have anyone like that in the squad

     

     

    Maybe, in time, Tierney?

     

     

    Certainly Ntcham and, while he has scored a few under a lot of presssure, Sinclair i am never confident about

  17. BHOYLO83 –

     

     

    To me, it’s more about having a positive mental attitude.

     

     

    Le Tissier had a great record and his thought process was ‘A free shot at goal ? What’s not to like about that ?’.

  18. Petethebeat

     

     

    True, he missed what was it, one penalty in his career or somethin?

     

     

    Some record.

     

     

    Shearer also has a good record. He used to just blast it. With power no keeper is going to stop it

  19. Different players have different styles, for example, Sinclair usually goes for the corner using precison, this is risky cos if its not perfect there is a good chance he will miss

     

     

    Ntcham is the same style

     

     

    So, someone with technique, who can take the emotion out of the situation, is what we need

     

     

    B-)

  20. Bhoylo83

     

     

    Someone to take the emotion out of the situation.

     

     

    Sounds like Brendan Rodgers could of been our best bet at penalties. Shame he’s left

  21. That spoof away strip would mean we’d be the Ivory Coast from the front and Ireland from the back. :-)

  22. South Of Tunis on

    Penalty !

     

     

    ” I never liked taking them.The fear of missing really upset my stomach”

     

    Gianni Rivera.

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