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“Old Firm game for Wembley”. Heaven help us. I don’t doubt International Champions Cup owner, Charlie Stillitano, has a sharp eye for what he could turn into a commercial success, but there can be fewer worse ideas in the history of sporting endeavour.

So many things could go wrong with such a fixture, some would go wrong, and the contagion would spread to Celtic. There’s no mention in any coverage of this item that Celtic have been consulted at any level, so I’m assuming they were as surprised as the rest of us at the moment (they were at a similar suggestion of a game in Australia a few years ago).

Stillitano cites hosting Manchester City-Manchester United in Beijing later this year as being something of an approximation. It’s not. I suggest he looks to somewhere deep in the Monglian hinterland for a venue for a Glasgow derby of this nature. Even then I would decline.

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  1. BURGAS HOOPS on 27TH APRIL 2016 7:02 PM

     

    DANSO

     

     

     

    Unfortunately it was an easy call to make, it’s what happens when the established club in scoddland comes under any sort of scrutiny.

     

     

     

    Sweep………………Sweep and so on…………………………………

     

     

    Problem is that it does not come under meaningful scrutiny.

  2. I realise some are not keen on John James on here…just scroll if that is the case…

     

     

     

     

    A Seven Year War of Attrition

     

    by sitonfence

     

    Tomorrow’s petition in regard to the SFA’s decision to approve a convicted criminal as ‘fit & proper’ promises to be explosive. I exchanged messages with someone close to the case and he stated that Ashley’s submissions were ‘dynamite.’ Career criminal King will be hung out to dry tomorrow and there will be no hiding place for the SFA. The craven, venal cabal that allowed King to drive a coach and horses through article 10.2 will be exposed as either complicit in a deception or grossly incompetent.

     

     

    Stewart Regan thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. He hides behind spurious legal advice, but won’t reveal it to anyone. He claims he has advice from South Africa. If this advice is not from The Crown Prosecution Authority, then it has no merit whatsoever. His South African advice will be exposed as missives from a solicitor acting on behalf of King.

     

     

    Everyone knows why King was approved by the SFA. He promised to invest £50m/£30m/£Nm in Rangers. Regan’s £34m-£40m business depends on a vital Rangers, so anyone who can assist Rangers, assists Regan. The SFA CEO will be pursuing another eye-watering pay rise due to Rangers making it to The Scottish Cup final. All it took was a rigged draw to ensure that Rangers played at home. Regan and his colleagues rigged this draw to please the broadcasters and sponsors who pay the lion’s share of his bloated salary. They could not take the chance of an away draw, as Rangers might lose as they did in their last two away games at Hibs and Livingston.

     

     

    We should also discover tomorrow how King managed to raise £5m in Hong Kong. Ashley is going to burn King and set the straw men at the SFA alight. We can but hope that the SFA solicitors, Burness Paull, instruct their advocate of football jurisprudence, Mr O’Neil QC. Andersen Strathern, due to their ‘ incestuous’ relationship with Rangers, will be attempting to put out the fires started by Ashley. Brodies are acting on behalf of Ashley/MASH whose equity was delisted from LSE AIM and has been decimated in value since the appointment of King.

     

     

    The excellent James Doleman will be covering the case and if live tweets are approved I will provide summaries on this site. It’s important to note that even if the career criminal escapes unscathed over the next two days, there will be a seven year war to follow. A war of attrition. I’m confident that Ashley will be the last man standing.

  3. SIPSINI on 27TH APRIL 2016 7:20 PM

     

     

    Hope that you are right.

     

    However, Ashley’s court record involving THEM ain’t too inspiring.

  4. An Teach Solais on

    SISPINI

     

    Hopefully court case reveals some of the corruption and machinations of SF A .

     

    However the matters contained in Res12 should also be aired and adjudicated on by an independent commission.

  5. Quonno/AN TEACH SOLAIS….

     

     

    We can but hope, maybe as has been suggested, our board are hanging fire on saying anything until someone hits the hornets nest.

     

     

    I personally won’t hold my breath on that. HH

  6. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on

    Good Evening.

     

     

    I am going to repost a post of my own from earlier for no other reason than that it is important to remember certain things …… and certain people who once upon a time used to be football players. However, no matter how good or how great they may have been viewed as a footballer, it turns out they grew into being a far better man whose behaviour and dignity at a time of crisis should never be forgotten.

     

     

    The truth is not negotiable.

     

     

    Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on 27th April 2016 1:04 pm

     

     

    Good Afternoon.

     

     

    I was busy throughout yesterday and so have had no chance to comment on the Hillsborough verdicts.

     

     

    A verdict from any kind of court is often taken to mean the end of something. The end of the trial, the court case, the prosecution or enquiry.

     

     

    Yet away from the refined and rarefied atmosphere of the court room, the reality is that a verdict means the start of something — a sentence, some reconciliation, a moving on perhaps.

     

     

    Justice was not done yesterday, because in the case of Hillsborough justice can only ever be seen to be done as opposed to actually done and the two are different.

     

     

    Once the euphoria of the actual verdicts have sunk in and died down, there will be questions to be asked and many soul searching days will either continue or start.

     

     

    I heard a senior Policeman from South Yorkshire Police issue a public apology on the news this morning, yet this same policeman had previously written to his senior colleagues and stated that unless they all got their stories right, then they — The Police — would be “roadkill”.

     

     

    In that light, the man’s apology feels false and less than wholehearted.

     

     

    I have been reminded this morning of something I wrote for Not The View a good few years ago now.

     

     

    It sets out my feelings on Hillsborough, the criminalisation of football fans, the press, politicians, and the victims.

     

     

    It also sets out the actions and dignity of one man. It is a dignity and sacrifice that pales into insignificance compared to the suffering of the families, but it is a dignity that should be remembered by every football fan and every politician who would seek to in some way belittle football people.

     

     

    The article also points out that where those in power seek to cover up and hide the truth, someone will smell bullshit and eventually the truth will out and the consequences will flow.

     

     

    As for the guy with the dignity — his name is Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish — and few are fit to lace his boots!

     

     

    https://ntvceltic.wordpress.com/2016/04/26/truth-is-not-negotiable/

  7. West End of East End on

    Winning Captain – you’re going all cryptic on us again !? Got to admit I’ve no idea what that post was about apart from the last line asking us to renew, even then I’m not sure if that’s what you’re trying to get across.

     

     

    Must admit, I’m also not sure if Res 12 is dead in the water or not but I’ve only read back about the last 3 pages. Head is sore trying to understand all this, but it’s been a busy day and I’m tired…

  8. An Teach Solais on

    CELMAN

     

    Good to have another member of the blog. More fresh thinking is good and welcome. HH

  9. Nye Bevans' rebel soldier on

    BRTH…..you don’t half go on a bit,kinda glad

     

    you do.

     

     

    CELMAN……are you Peter Lawwell?

  10. Summa of Sammi @ 12:26

     

     

    You said

     

    CQN is Now my Fifth or Six Blog/Website that l Look at Now when l open my Phone/Laptop..That just happened over the last 2 Years.. l Didn’t Flounce..I Didn’t slag off or Argue with other Posters to make this Happen..It just happened..

     

     

     

    Why..?

     

     

    I’m the same, was a regular on here since the beginning, remember Pablo, Kano (the rest of the antipodean Tims on the “nightshift”) and others very fondly

     

     

    Don’t get much time to read through the entire blog anymore either and rarely comment

     

     

    Best regards

     

     

    James_Oregon

  11. *** LAST MAN STANDING 7 ***

     

     

    Good evening friends.

     

     

    My apologies for forgetting to post the results from week 8. Better late than never, I suppose.

     

     

    We started last weekend with 24 but have lost 10 brave souls who foolishly placed their hopes (their hoops?) in the following –

     

     

    Celtic Soul Brother : Aberdeen

     

    MrsLennonspassion : Aberdeen

     

    Bigshuggy : Celtic

     

    The Mentalpause : Celtic

     

    dessybhoy : Draw Partick Dundee

     

    josiebee : Dundee Utd

     

    GuyFawkesaforeverhero : Dundee Utd

     

    Koln Celt : Dundee Utd

     

    QOTSA75 : Hearts

     

    Lennybhoy : Partick Thistle

     

     

    So this leaves 14 moving on to week 9 –

     

     

    Lennyshon : Crystal Palace

     

    Big Al : Inverness

     

    Norfolk Enchants : Inverness

     

    jamabhoy : Inverness

     

    Janice67 : Inverness

     

    Winning Captains Jnr : Inverness

     

    Stevie67 : Inverness

     

    The Token Tim : Leicester

     

    Gearoid1998 : Leicester

     

    Channelislandcelt : Leicester

     

    Onemalloy : Leicester

     

    Nakasammi : Leicester

     

    Praecepta : Leicester

     

    20 hats : Motherwell

     

     

    Thanks for your continued support.

  12. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on

    Nye Bevans’ rebel soldier on 27th April 2016 7:46 pm

     

     

    Yup — sometimes I do, other times I don’t.

  13. CELMAN…

     

     

    Welcome mate, ignore all of them asking if you’re a hun, I’ve never agreed with it…are you a zombie:)))

  14. Saint Stivs says SACK THE BOARD on

    i too admore Kenny the man very much. first the footballer and manager. then for the honestly and unbending commitment to tell the truth about that event.

     

     

    i felt he got a bad press at celtic 2nd time round.

     

     

    also a few met him and talk of his surliness, but after all he witnessed , is it any wonder.

     

     

    it was on the record page today – but have a wee read –

     

     

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    How Liverpool and Scotland hero Kenny Dalglish’s autobiography played a key role in Hillsborough inquests

     

    06:50, 27 APR 2016 UPDATED 16:18, 27 APR 2016

     

    BY ELEANOR BARLOW

     

    THE Reds icon was manager on that tragic day in 1989 and he gave evidence at the Hillsborough inquests which were concluded on Tuesday with a verdict of unlawful killing.

     

     

     

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    LIVERPOOL and Scotland legend Kenny Dalglish’s autobiography became a key text in the Hillsborough inquests.

     

     

    Giving evidence the former Reds boss spoke about the FA Cup semi-final in 1989 while wearing a suit bearing the Liverpool crest and the ’96’ badge in the witness box, report the Liverpool Echo.

     

     

    Amidst the heartache of the inquests process, Hillsborough Family Support Group chairman Margaret Aspinall said she remembered the day of Dalglish’s evidence because it “gave us a bit of a laugh”.

     

     

    Justice for the 96 Liverpool fans who died in 1989 was finally delivered yesterday as a jury ruled they had been unlawfully killed .

     

     

    During the inquests John Beggs QC, representing match commanders David Duckenfield, Roger Marshall and Roger Greenwood, had produced a 2011 edition of Mr Dalglish’s autobiography My Liverpool Home as he began asking the Scotsman questions.

     

     

    Quoting from a section about the cup final at Wembley in 1986, he said: “I also saw, on TV, Scousers climbing through windows, dropping down ropes and pulling each other up, bunking in to the most famous stadium in the world for the oldest football trophy in the world.”

     

     

    He went on: “When Wembley announced the official attendance as 98,000 I just laughed as there must have been at least 110,000 crammed in beneath the Twin Towers.”

     

     

    Mr Beggs began to ask Dalglish: “So you, an icon, I am going to suggest a very important role model to young men who support Liverpool, laugh at the fact that they break the law by going in without tickets…”

     

     

    He was stopped by Dalglish, who said: “No, I don’t think you’ve read that properly, sorry, if I can interrupt you.”

     

     

    He added: “Well, I laughed at the official attendance being announced as 98,000. I didn’t laugh at people trying to get in for free.”

     

     

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    Margaret Aspinall from Hillsborough Families is presented with the Special Recognition AwardMargaret Aspinall from Hillsborough Families is presented with the Special Recognition Award

     

    Read more: Liverpool hero Kenny Dalglish pays tribute to Hillsborough families: ‘The truth that they knew 27 years ago has just come to pass now’

     

     

    As Mr Beggs attempted to continue his questioning the former striker began to laugh.

     

     

    He told the court: “I’m laughing because I don’t know – you’re the one that used the word ‘icon’, not me, and I’m only a guy, I’m only a normal human being that had a good job and, if other people think something of you, that’s up to them.

     

     

    “I don’t think I’m actually judge and jury on how people should behave and shouldn’t behave, so I don’t see what right I would have to say in there that people were wrong.”

     

     

    Mr Beggs went on to refer to a report about the 1989 FA Cup Final, between Liverpool and Everton, which formed part of the Taylor Inquiry.

     

     

    He was stopped by coroner Sir John Goldring, who questioned how Dalglish could give evidence relating to it, and then interrupted by families’ barrister Michael Mansfield, who raised a concern.

     

     

    The coroner sent the jury and witness out of court for legal discussion to take place and when they returned, just over 10 minutes later, Mr Beggs continued his questioning.

     

     

    Mr Dalglish said he had no evidence of fans “bunking in” to Wembley for the 1989 final but told the court: “I know that the clamber for tickets at Merseyside was overwhelming because of the occasion and because everyone in Merseyside, whether you were Red or Blue, wanted to show their unity and the support for families who had lost their loved ones at Hillsborough.”

     

     

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    Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish is comforted by a police officer as he and Nottingham Forest manager Brian Clough leave the Hillsborough pitch

     

    Mr Beggs began asking questions about Dalglish’s views on the fencing at Heysel, where 39 football fans died in a disaster in 1985.

     

     

    As the questions continued, the coroner interrupted: “Where is this going, Mr Beggs?”

     

     

    He asked how the jury’s knowledge was being expanded by the line of questioning.

     

     

    Mr Beggs told the court: “It is because an icon in British football is making the very point that I have been making throughout these inquests, which is, unless you have robust fencing, you have the sort of disaster that unfolded at Heysel.”

     

     

    But Dalglish said: “Excuse me, I don’t think I’m endorsing what he’s saying.”

     

     

    He added: “Well, if I am, I don’t wish to.”

     

     

    Read more: Hillsborough verdict: Scots supporters who survived the hell of Leppings Lane

     

     

    Questioning the footballer about the day of the disaster, Mr Beggs asked if he would agree that if 2000 to 3000 fans had turned up late to the match they might have contributed to the disaster.

     

     

    But the coroner stopped him from answering.

     

     

    He told him: “He cannot answer that question, Mr Beggs, as you perfectly well know.”

     

     

    As Mr Beggs continued to make his point, Sir John went on: “Mr Beggs, please don’t argue with me.”

     

     

    The jury and Dalglish were sent out a second time for legal discussions to continue.

     

     

    Mrs Aspinall said: “I think Beggs had his own agenda but Kenny handled it brilliantly.

     

     

    “Kenny’s always been there for the families and he didn’t in any way shape or form let us down.”

     

     

    Mary Corrigan, mum of 17-year-old victim Keith McGrath, said: “It’s good to be able to laugh in court.

     

     

    “Beggs must have been thinking ‘I’ve got this fella and I’m going to make him look as small as I can’.”

     

     

    She added: “I was made up he put Beggs in his place.”

     

     

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    Barry Devonside, whose 18-year-old son Christopher died in the disaster, said: “When Kenny Dalglish came to give evidence the behaviour of John Beggs I thought was to embarrass Kenny, but he turned it on him.

     

     

    “I thought Kenny conducted himself well.”

     

     

    Once back in court, after some more questions about his autobiography, Mr Beggs finished his questioning and Rajiv Menon QC, on behalf of some of the families, asked Dalglish to clarify some of the figures Mr Beggs had quoted from his book.

     

     

    Answering him, Dalglish said: “if you read the book I said – well, the ghost writer said…”

     

     

    Sir John asked him: “You mean it wasn’t you, Mr Dalglish, who wrote it?”

     

     

    He replied: “No, no. I’m not intelligent enough.”

  15. Kein Problem für die Bayer!

     

     

    AM have kept a clean sheet in just 13 of their last 15 home CL ties.

     

     

    El Sieve.

  16. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Noticed for anyone who doesn’t have BT sports game showing on BT showcase on free view

     

     

    So they say on twitter

  17. Saint Stivs says SACK THE BOARD on

    Liverpool hero Kenny Dalglish pays tribute to Hillsborough families: ‘The truth that they knew 27 years ago has just come to pass now’

     

    21:42, 26 APR 2016 UPDATED 21:52, 26 APR 2016

     

    BY MATTHEW COOPER

     

    SCOTLAND legend Dalglish, manager of Liverpool on that tragic day, spoke after today’s inquest verdict of unlawful killing.

     

     

     

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    SCOTLAND and Liverpool legend Kenny Dalglish said fans of the club have been “totally and utterly vindicated” by the Hillsborough inquest verdicts – and should be unbelievably proud of their efforts to uncover the truth.

     

     

    Dalglish attended numerous funerals of Hillsborough victims after the disaster, including four in a single day.

     

     

    Speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live, the 65-year-old said of the bereaved families: “Everything they’ve fought for over the past 27 years has come out – and they have won every argument.

     

     

    “The truth that they knew 27 years ago has just come to pass now – and it’s taken them 27 years of their life to fight for the person who went to watch a football match and lost their life.

     

     

    “You cannot surmise or even begin to guess what those families have been through.

     

     

    “They have been through some very, very bad days – times when things looked bleak – and they stayed totally true to their loved ones and fought the fight.”

     

     

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    Dalglish, Liverpool’s manager on April 15 1989, added: “The only thing we saw the supporters do on the day was to try and help.

     

     

    “People tried their very, very best that they could – to help people survive.”

     

     

    Answering questions put to him by his daughter, BBC Radio 5 Live reporter Kelly Cates, Dalglish said: “For me, the families were always the most important thing.

     

     

    “For me, I wouldn’t change anything that I did – and I just wish I could have done more.”

  18. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Clattenberg (sp) having a good game telling the diving cheats on both sides to get up and play football instead of basketball

  19. 42 years later and I still have aboslutely no goodwill towards Athletico Madrid! C’mon Bayern, get yer act thegither.

  20. Terrible what those Families had to go through to get Justice.

     

     

    This World is so utterly corrupt, especially now.

     

     

    Watching the AM Bayern game, even at that high level it is all about pressing hard, all over the pitch.

     

     

    Who knows what is going to happen @ Celtic. I don’t think anyone would dispute that Ronny has the right ideas.

     

     

    Ronny lost the dressing room because he wanted more out of the players. They had had it far too easy.

     

     

    Kieran is a proper Celtic player in my mind.

     

     

    Get rid ASAP of those that undermined and didn’t give a feck, against so many teams now, both domestic and in Europe. They may not have all done it collectively, they certainly done it individually.

     

     

    Come on the Young Celts like Kieran.

     

     

    If I was running the show. I’d bring in Martin to oversee the whole operation, Install Roy Keane as the Manager and I’d treble Ronny Deila’s wages to stay as a coach.

  21. Jobo was it that long ago?

     

     

    I was but a pup but I mind acgr telling me he was 25 at the time and how upset he was, yep, cheating bassas.