Make what you wish of Strathclyde Police reporting Celtic fans for “illicit chanting” to a Uefa match observer in October, the bottom line is that Uefa have fined Celtic €15,000 (around £12,700), established a benchmark for future action and more importantly sullied the club’s reputation.
Job done by those who wanted this confrontation to happen.
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mic1888 @ 19:44
Probably a hint of sarcasm there, but not directed at you, more at the ridiculousness of all this. To be fair, it’s likely to be that song that is the issue. It’s a nonsense. And I prefer the Up the Celts version myself. But point being, that one line, for all its worth, seems to generate more attention than the illegal chants of bigoted and racist hate going on elsewhere. It defies any kind of logic.
Man City 1 up if you are interested.
Evening all,
Got my Kano Foundation Tshirt today, just another small way of being part of our family…
The can be bought at TKF Tshirts
should you fancy one….
HH
Balotelli celebrates by doing the Broonie.
Why was he not booked.
Answers on a postcard to Stewart Regan.
Árd Macha
Abu Dhabi XI take the lead at Stamford Bridge
Sergio Aguero shows John Terry up for the leaden footed CH that he is
Paddysmarket
12 December, 2011 at 19:02
You said:
‘Are you really saying that the people that sang these songs had this outcome as their objective?????
and can you tell me what % of 60k support you speak for, just for clarification’
No not at all. Although I admit my text did read like that. No I mean that our club has requested us not to sing add ons. Some have not accepted these requests and im annoyed that our good name is now to be questioned.
Also I dont ‘speak for’ any percentage. However presuming it is ok to express my opinion on this site then it is my opinion that the majority of the home crowd would rather the add ons were left in the pub/home/whatever etc.
mickthetic @ 19:47
Who’s your post aimed at? I don’t recall one poster here who said that they sing these apparently illicit chants, yet you direct your anger at what you imply to be a sizeable number.
When did you last hear someone commit this offence to your better nature? Did you voice your disapproval at the time? I would hope so, as self-policing has been a big part of the Celtic community to date.
But more to the point, what specific song or chant are you referring to – and I’d appreciate a real specific, not just a reference to “IRA chanting”?
Eyes Wide Open says:
12 December, 2011 at 19:49
£425 between 10 members of staff – do you work in the sudan ?
If the boys plight is as you say they are pathetic people.
notthebus says:
12 December, 2011 at 20:03
I agree
and there is a general sense that may be the case
what we need is clarification …
HH
M
notthebus,how does being fined for illicit singing suit the board,
am quite sure they are as proud as the rest of us in the good name the club have.
City are running rings around Chelsea at the moment with some lovely pass and move football
whitedoghunch says:
12 December, 2011 at 20:11
Consider the time of year man
man c looking slick in the rain at the bridge…
odds dropping on the Celts’ domestic treble:
6/1 today at Coral
The quadruple was 800/1 (wish I had taken the 1600/1 TET advised last week…grrr)
someone’s been lumpin’ on ???
HH
M
The BBC website’s report on the UEFA fine shows a picture of a set-to between Celtic and Rennes players. This was of course totally untypical of a match played in a great atmosphere.
But it’s typical of the media onslaught – sometimes crude and obvious and sometimes more subtle – that is being waged against our club at present.
When oh when is our club going to speak out against the unprecedented (?) media campaign against our club? Remember Willie Maley in 1906. Why don’t any of our present administrators have any cojones?
Over to you, Mr Lawwell.
gordybhoy64
There has been an orchestrated attempt by the Board and more recently the manager in recent times to distance the club from the Pro IRA chants, to no avail.
Now that we officially have been found guilty by the games governing body, this will add grist to the mill with the clubs attempts to stamp out the illicit chants.
Sorry to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but the pantomime we are watching is clearly scripted. The script writers are politicians, police and footballing authorities who all have their various agendas. For example, it is difficult to believe that the same match commander acted twice without the appropriate authority from those above – he would know the political consequences from this and potential effect on his career if he was acting alone.
It is also difficult to believe that the Scottish Government and police are not in constant dialogue with the footballing authorities here and in Europe and do not pursue their agenda. Of course they do.
The only thing I haven’t made up my mind about yet is the extent to which Celtic plc are inside the tent with the others pissing out or on the outside getting pissed on.
saltires en sevilla
I doubt my tenner halved the odds :>)
gordybhoy64 says:
12 December, 2011 at 20:15
notthebus,how does being fined for illicit singing suit the board,
am quite sure they are as proud as the rest of us in the good name the club have.
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I thought meaning was:
…board are not ‘happy’ about the fine or bad press, but will use this fine to help get their message to fans to stop singing ra songs as it is hurting the club
HH
M
notthebus,dont disagree that the board wanted the singing stopped,
just canny accept that they are happy to have been fined by uefa,
especially when they dont appear to know the actual songs
Clancy Brothers
Chelsea equalise. Shame.
TET
the milky bars are on you if that one comes up :-)
seriously, if we get a wee bit of luck on Thursday we might just do some damage to a few teams in the new year..some decent Euro form so far
HH
M
gordybhoy64
happy obviously isn’t the right word, but I don’t think they will be too disappointed.
Lads anyone know what sean was saying on clyde.
Paul67,
spot on, the boards desire to vilify and invite sanction through bloody minded confrontation with the support, is an absolute disgrace.
The death of Celtic’s soul is a high price to pay for appeasement.
Chelski equalise completely against the run of play
Meireles a very lucky boy to still be on the park after a wild challenge on Zabaleta
jungle1967 says:
12 December, 2011 at 16:02
If we cut out the RA songs there wont be a problem .If we dont there will be- a big one. We need to put our own house in order.
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You’re absolutely correct and have summed it up in a nutshell. It doesn’t matter what your perspective on the IRA is, chanting pro IRA slogans at a football match is offensive to many people. Eddie Smith reported it but anyone else is also free do so. Many Celtic supporters on here have reported the opposition to EUFA in the past in the hope that some sort of action would be taken against them. Action was taken against them – it is now being taken against us.
Many of us want to leave the SFA behind and play in England. To expect to be able to do that and still condone pro IRA chanting at our games is an exercise in futility. A lot of people in England would probably want to see Celtic play down south but would have second thoughts about the baggage we bring in terms of the overt support that many of our supporters display for the IRA.
There is a time and there are various places to sing about support for the IRA for those who do. Football matches involving Celtic FC are not.
Lads is Big NAN logged on tonight?
Hugely disappointed at this.
I have been to dozens of games in Italy were the chanting of communist, or fascist slogans has been open and unmistakable. Racism is also a regular feature of crowd behaviour in Italy.
Compared to these games, CP is an absolute haven of safety and sanity. Indeed, thanks to the GB and the Rennes fans, the atmosphere that night was superb.
The blame for this fiasco lies at the door of Strathclyde Police and their SNP political masters. I sincerely that no Celtic fan will be giving their vote to the party of Willie Wolfe, Christine Graham, Hunza Yusef, and Alex Salmond again.
Enemies all…
Apologies if this is old news, read the Di Canio interview in the Guardian there. Of his time in Glasgow he says:
“hatred can be good. But you don’t hate someone just because they’re a Protestant”!!
Eh? Whats that about?
saltires en sevilla
Outwith the top clubs in the european leagues, the standard of football is brutal.
With our full compliment fit and available, I believe we are capable of giving any team a game, the likes of Barca obviously not, but looking at games involving Bolton, Villa, Blackburn and the like, even with our depleated team I reckon we could beat any of them.
I think we have a chance against Udinese, after that who knows, WGS took us to heights nobody thought possible.
All about faith.
Eyes Wide Open says:
12 December, 2011 at 19:49
Let me know if you don’t get anywhere with Man Utd, there might be some people I could speak to. No promises, sadly. Hope you can get something sorted for him.
Lurgan53:1905
100% Correct, just the same as those who are having a go at the fans as well. Until we we find out what we are being fined for, and whether the club believe there are grounds for appeal, we cannot have a serious discussion.
Till know all I’ve seen is bluster, speculation and hearsay.
HH
Was just watching sports news on bbc24 there and the female reporter stated that we were fined for illicit chanting after the match commander reported Celtic fans for pro IRA chants. Do the bbc know something the rest of us don’t?
Fritzsong
If thats what the catholic church think why the silence?
I am being told that they are wheeling and dealing with the SNP
Disgraceful
hen1rik says:
12 December, 2011 at 20:40
Lads is Big NAN logged on tonight?
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Watching game and checking posts at half-time.
Que passa?
emsh says:
12 December, 2011 at 20:55
Cheers mate, appreciate the gesture.
If no one knows exactly what led to the charge why are the bbc saying it was for pro IRA chants?