Neil Lennon’s suggestion that fostering Fraser Forster from a lower-league loaner to an England international is “one of the best things [he’s] been involved with as a manager” is difficult to dispute, despite his various trophies and Champions League exploits.
Owen Hargreaves earned an England cap before he made an appearance in either of England’s top two divisions, although he was playing with European champions, Bayern Munich at the time. Hargreaves and Lanarkshire’s Joe Baker are the only two to have been capped for England without playing in any of the country’s four leagues. I’ve no idea if there are any others to have earned a cap without having played in the top two division but there must be precious few.
In short, Fraser’s appearance between the sticks on Friday was exceptional. We can now help fulfil the international ambitions of English players, just as long as we continue to compete in the Champions League.
Playing to the galleries
There’s a great line in the movie, Wall St, when Martin Sheen says, “If you live long enough you get to see everything”. Today we got to see the incredible sight of Craig Whyte’s former PR, who represented him before and during his Outstanding Contribution to Scotland, who in fact, represented him well before this, when Whyte was stalking STV as they teetered on the brink of oblivion, use Twitter to turn on another member of the Whyte coterie, for being a part of the Whyte coterie.
It reads like playing to the gallery, which the Daily Record, is a particularly useful punch bag for. No one cares what you say about the Daily Record, so exploit a common enemy and pile on. Tub thumping like this is embarrassing.
Puppet master
It will be interesting to see if the Record investigate who first suggested Whyte turned his attention to Rangers, after his STV ambitions ended….
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Bournesoup……
My good lady just asked did I want toast….. brown or white
Brown of course…..the other is just bread I told her.
JimmyCarrisfunnyCSC
Who is keeping Rogic oot the team ?
Ryecatcher @ 11.35
“…there is a very high risk that we will get knocked out before the serious stuff begins in September of each season.We had a good attempt at doing this against Karagandy.”
Ryecatcher, it’s all about opinions of course, but my memory of the first leg is feeling very comfortable with things as the game progressed, waiting for the inevitable goal we were going to score when we eventually took one of the number of chances we were creating in the away leg of the tie, then two individual errors/howlers undid us. In the home leg we were faced with a bunch of very rough (verging on violent) players who dived and lay down (cheating) at every turn and I was so happy that they eventually lost a goal in time-added-on that they had contributed to with their play-acting.
Over the 120 minutes+ of the tie I thought we were well worth our victory, but of course, this being football nothing is guaranteed and not every ‘big’ team in Europe made it through to the Champions league this and earlier years.
The club is wending it’s way through difficult waters and is, IMO, doing not a bad job. There will no doubt be times when things don’t go as we would like, but that’s football.
kevjungle
11:53 on 19 November, 2013
As soon as it is realised, I will ask for your authority to change it…… Hahahahahahahaha, if you’re in…!!!!!
Cheers kev.
Who in your opinion have been the outstanding bored members in your lifetime?
kevjungle
11:57 on 19 November, 2013
NEIL…….!!????
Celtic_First
We all realise just how poor Sally is as a coach and I’m pretty sure that most of them are slowly coming to that realisation. However, until they, do can those in charge (whoever that is these days!) afford to sack him? This could do further harm to their already meagre income.
Parkheadcumsalford
11:56
Once again, for the sake of clarity, I don’t mean the spivs.
Spivs will be spivs.
What about the ‘real’ ‘Rangers’ ‘men’?
When are they going to say: “We don’t actually need the second-biggest football budget in Scotland to win the third tier. We didn’t need it to win the fourth tier either. This has to stop before we suffer an insolvency event.”
Tommy Twists Tommy Turns
That’s why I was so surprised at his performance against Costa Rica, he looked really physically strong whereas I recall thinking he was lightweight and off the pace when he played against Inverness this season and Motherwell last season.
Hopefully if he is given another shot in the Celtic team he’ll take it. The Australian media and national coach are applying pressure on him to move on – even if only on loan – to get first team football ahead of the World Cup. I’d rather that Tom Rogic in the form he showed tonight stayed at Celtic. We’ll just have to see how things pan out over the next few weeks.
CF
They’re “No surrendering”
Malcolm Murray
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors
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Ah jist hope that yer monicker gits realized wan day soon.
But, being it in this Orange / Masonic snakepit of a place
don’t you be going and holding yer breath :)
HH
EmeraldBee\o/ proud to be an internet bampot
Bang on mate.
I think Neil has also got something to compare to the board now on getting players signed up and quckly for next summer.
We need to be ready. Karagandy were never going to knock us out but we may not be as lucky with the draw next season. We need to be prepared.
LB
Lryecatcher
11:57 on 19 November, 2013
Have you recovered from the black-eye yet…….hehe
Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar
11:59
Someone needs to have a word in his ear and encourage him to step up to a bigger level.
For example, there is a vacancy at Inverness.
auldheid
11:17 19 November 2013
DD and PL may think like the majority of us, that if they never see the deid club again, it will be too soon. The deid club might be back sometime, and Celtic FC should ensure that they do have the quality players to continue to win the league and progress in Europe. The SFA will never change, as the men in black would be on a mission, same as it ever was. But we could be, should be,so far in front, we won’t have to worry about that mob again. They are on the road to nowhere. We have the ball at our feet, let’s hope we use it. HH
Brian Dempsey – a rebel without the money
Kev jungle..
Was John Keane ever on the board?
Absolute unsung hero in 1994 from what I remember.
hamiltontim is praying for oscar
11:59 on 19 November, 2013
Sssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh
67Heaven
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Aye – Neil’s keepin Rogic oot ?
Well, probably goes to explain why Neil thinks Stokes is a striker ? :)
Anyway – i’m allowing myself to be sucked in again – so I’ll need to get
maself – Off oot.
laters… HH
rye
Burns toast at 11.00am – wife notices on arrival from work at 5.00pm, – 77% of all divorces start over someone burning the toast.
“Just when I thought I was out – they pull me back in again”
Kev Jungle
Three and off oot
67heaven … i am neil lennon, supporting wee oscar..!!.. ibrox belongs to the creditors
11:52 on 19 November, 2013
googybhoy ♥ celtic
11:46 on 19 November, 2013
On that subject, I finally got the Sat Nav lady to ‘speak ‘ to me last night….hahahahahahahaha ….now working on how I can achieve the reverse with my wife…
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Never allow your wife to reverse your car.
Only joking Mrs 67heaven.
Bmctuw
Taxi drivers have a special feature on Sat Nav. “The longest way round”
Auldheid………..
cap, doffed.
HH.
Sevco fanzine contributor Matthey Lindsey is, erm … an Inverness fan – at least that’s what people assumed when he said his club was Inverness.
Inverness Loyal TRIFC
Celtic_First,
Sorry to reply, as I understand where you’re coming from. The only answer, if there’s any needed, that makes sense to me is that the spivs have the deeds and/or the assets.
GOOGYBHOY
For the benefit of any lurking tourists,it is officially known as The Scenic Route.
Some sights are so interesting they deserve to be viewed three or four times …..
Bournesoup…
You know the old saying about burnt toast and a pregnant mistress.
In both cases the guy knows he should have taken it out 5 seconds sooner.
PARKHEADCUMSALFORD
Any truth in the rumour that the Easdales bought Green’s shares in old £1 coins?
BMCUWP, 30 bob notes.
“Awww FFS. Not again. Leave me in peace”
Kev jungle’s door.
DOC
I was thinking of a mysterious theft at around the same time.
But your answer’s way better!
Both work:-)
GoldStar 10
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My favorite ‘bored’ members of all-time ?
Eh….Sir Robert Kelly
Eh…Brian Dempsey afore he was stabbed in the back
Eh….that’s it.
ryecatcher
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John Keane was indeed an original ‘rebel’ before he became a modern day director
ie: an invisible man. imo
Nothing to say about anything like Eric Riley.
So – I give ye that one.
My apologies to you both for late replies – gremlins have taken over the keyboard :)
Hail Hail – Off oot.
Catch you all laters.
Off to Germany in the Sun.
Might get wifi so will be back on for hilarity and hunguffery.
If not play nice.
I was just talking to a guy at work there and he said that Celtic need a captain and I have been banging on here about Roy Aitken type player for a couple of seasons.
If you could bring one player from the past though and put him in the current side who would it be?
I would bring Paul McStay in myself but I am one of his biggest fans.
Henrik is the obvious choice but Paul McStay was a fine player in his day and a great Celt.
Would love to see boss the midfield in the Champions League.
LB
The Honest Mistake loves being first
12:19 on 19 November, 2013
“Awww FFS. Not again. Leave me in peace”
Kev jungle’s door.
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Aye – only when I see you walking up the drive way :)
Right – Off oot this time – laters…
Why do some of us need it pointed out that Celtic has no need for the aggravation that a Fankenstein Govan club would bring ?
Nobody associated with Celtic could rationally want to see the return of an entity which would threaten the club’s guaranteed future wellbeing & prosperity…. Especially when that entity is a malevolent & hostile long-standing enemy.
Not Dermot Desmond, not Neil Lennon, not Peter Lawwell,… NOT ANYBODY wants such an outcome. Of course some of them will, for one reason or another, make public utterances to the contrary. A poker player is never going to indicate that he is sitting with a full-house.
As Auldheid has pointed out, Celtic are in a better place than EVER before.
So why do some of us see it otherwise ?
Is it too straightforward for some of them to take on board ?
Maybe one of them will tell me