Neil Lennon’s suggestion that fostering Fraser Forster from a lower-league loaner to an England international is “one of the best things [he’s] been involved with as a manager” is difficult to dispute, despite his various trophies and Champions League exploits.
Owen Hargreaves earned an England cap before he made an appearance in either of England’s top two divisions, although he was playing with European champions, Bayern Munich at the time. Hargreaves and Lanarkshire’s Joe Baker are the only two to have been capped for England without playing in any of the country’s four leagues. I’ve no idea if there are any others to have earned a cap without having played in the top two division but there must be precious few.
In short, Fraser’s appearance between the sticks on Friday was exceptional. We can now help fulfil the international ambitions of English players, just as long as we continue to compete in the Champions League.
Playing to the galleries
There’s a great line in the movie, Wall St, when Martin Sheen says, “If you live long enough you get to see everything”. Today we got to see the incredible sight of Craig Whyte’s former PR, who represented him before and during his Outstanding Contribution to Scotland, who in fact, represented him well before this, when Whyte was stalking STV as they teetered on the brink of oblivion, use Twitter to turn on another member of the Whyte coterie, for being a part of the Whyte coterie.
It reads like playing to the gallery, which the Daily Record, is a particularly useful punch bag for. No one cares what you say about the Daily Record, so exploit a common enemy and pile on. Tub thumping like this is embarrassing.
Puppet master
It will be interesting to see if the Record investigate who first suggested Whyte turned his attention to Rangers, after his STV ambitions ended….
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Tamrabam
Sevco 5088 claim to own the assets.
Charles Green could still have floated Sevco Scotland, but a claim that the Sevco Scotland he wanted investors to buy into owned all those lovely ex-Rangers assets may, allegedly, prove to have been slightly off the mark.
And as if by magic, the loan ranger music comes on Radio 3.
The Dandy Dons have sold their full allocation for Saturday. I wonder when this last happened with an SPL/SPFL club who are still in existence.
Morning all
Thanks Doc for keeping my tickets safe :)
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Young Rogic just coming on for Australia……..good run straight away……crowd get right behind him.
HH
BRTH……
What are the odds of Gratuitous Alienation being the most searched for phrase on Google from Timmy laptops and iPads on Friday 22nd November?
BDOarenottheBritishDartsOrganisationCSC
Celtic first
Are you implying charles green is a conman…. oooft.
I hope not or you could find yourself in court. … actually you might find yourself in a very very long line of people threatened with court action…. and I never hear of any impending dates for these court appearances
From the Mail Online – a staggering example of financial excess in the EPL!
Queens Park Rangers are on course to be hit with the biggest fine in British football history, which, in a worse-case scenario, could top £60 million. Ironically, it will be imposed because of the amount of money they are losing — believed to be a huge £80m for last season — and will compound their financial troubles, perhaps sparking meltdown.
They have racked up big debts and massive annual losses largely through signing dozens of players on huge contracts in recent seasons, including Chris Samba, Park Ji-Sung, Julio Cesar, Jermaine Jenas, Loic Remy and others, most of whom remain on the club’s books, draining their resources with contracts worth up to £100,000 a week.
If QPR are promoted this season, the fine will be levied in January 2015 by the Football League under their new Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules, which will see overspending clubs ‘taxed’ on their losses. Rangers are currently favourites to go up to the Premier League from the Championship this season. They could avoid a fine — or at least postpone it — if they fail to get promoted. In that case, they will be hit with a lengthy transfer embargo.
The mathematics are complicated, but in broad terms, Championship clubs will pay a £1 fine for every £1 they lose over £18m in the 2013-14 financial year.
Short stay: Chris Samba spent six months at QPR to July 2013 on £100,000 a week and his 10 Premier League games cost £2.5m in wages
Sources familiar with QPR’s financial situation have told The Mail on Sunday that the club will post losses for 2012-13 of about £80m. The club are not obliged to publish those accounts until next spring and have declined to comment.
Rangers are two-thirds owned by Malaysian businessman Tony Fernandes and one-third by the Mittal family. Fernandes’s majority shareholding gives him ultimate power and it is he who sanctioned the hiring of Mark Hughes and then Harry Redknapp, allowing both to sign large groups of players.
It is expected that the club will record another massive deficit for the current season, and it is the losses in 2013-14 that will be measured to calculate any fine.
If QPR’s losses for the season are £80m, the fine will be about £62m. That would equate to roughly all of QPR’s Premier League income (if they are promoted) for next season. Even if 2013-14 losses are as ‘low’ as £60m, a fine of more than £40m would follow.
‘This is the first season in which clubs will ultimately face sanctions [for over-spending],’ a Football League spokesman told The Mail on Sunday. ‘Clubs have to submit their accounts for 2013-14 to us by December 1, 2014, with sanctions levied early in 2015. If a club being sanctioned are in the Premier League by then, the fine will need to be paid.’
QPR’s accounts for 2012-13, in which they were relegated from the Premier League, have not been made public, nor will the club confirm when they will be. Asked to comment on their expected losses last season and this season, and on the potentially destructive fines, a Loftus Road spokesman said: ‘The club will be making no comment on [these] matters at this time.’
The Mail on Sunday can reveal that the Football League plan to donate fines levied under their FFP rules to charity. It had previously been expected that fines paid by overspending clubs would be shared among clubs who stayed within the rules and did not lose huge amounts while trying to ‘buy’ success. But a senior FL source says giving the fines to charity is now the preferred option ‘for a number of political reasons’.
The last publicly available accounts for QPR relate to the 2011-12 season, when they made a loss of £22.6m, had debts of £89m and a wage bill that had almost doubled year-on-year from £29.7m to £58.4m.
That huge wage bill was before they signed high-earning players like Samba, Park, Rob Green, Junior Hoilett, Ryan Nelsen, Jose Bosingwa, Julio Cesar, Stephane Mbia, Remy and Jenas.
The wage bill for QPR’s relegation season is expected to be about £90m, or, by itself, about 150 per cent of the club’s total income of about £65m. A ‘sensible’ wage ratio is closer to 50 per cent of turnover. They have cut some costs since last season, releasing or selling 11 players in the summer including Samba, Bosingwa and Anton Ferdinand.
But they also signed eight new players on permanent deals and loaned three others including Benoit Assou-Ekotto from Tottenham and Niko Kranjcar from Dynamo Kiev.
QPR’s income will also have plunged between last season in the Premier League and this season in the Championship, largely through reduction in TV money.
Rogic watch
Another super turn and run……the chopped down FK Oz……
Poor FK (not TR)
HH
I like the softly softly approach by NL, and the thrust and parry style of PL, and of course DD took the business mans approach, if they go down it will be self inflicted and nothing to do with CFC, better they be the drivers of the mystery tour bus, and us not being passengers, remember the last bus they had?
Oldtim
Goa is my spiritual home
Sipsini
Im sure the cabal wont waste good rope on the likes of you :)
celtic_first
09:31 on 19 November, 2013
They have disregarded every rule in the country so far. Unregistered payments to players, defying company law on liquidation, being parachuted into Division 3.
What makes you think they wouldnt just ride roughshod over any other serious allegations?
There are a lot of people and organisations out there in fear of the Klan.
Tim Cahill scores for Australia equaling the all time goal scoring record of………..wait for it. 29
At least he’s a Tim ;-)
HH
emusanorphan
09:57
Craig Whyte.
Tbj,
Haha, all ropes and slings have been locked up in a secure place and bhuns can only use them under the supervision of a laughing tim ;)
ryecatcher
09:25 on 19 November, 2013
Good to know that you and Kevj have your fingers right on the pulse, and are not just attention-seekers……..PL will be pleased that you have him in your thoughts……. spare a little thought for just how well our beloved Club is being guided through this recession …..and….how well we are doing on the park (whisper that one, in case anyone hears you……or at least, don”t say it until oor Kev is ‘off oot’ )…….HH
tonydonnelly67
09:56 on 19 November, 2013
Spot on …… Have to say, though…….for me ‘No comment’ would have been more powerful….. and, yes, shouldn’t be too long now before the ‘4 horses’ catch up with sevco also, if justice is not going to be compromised in favour of ‘tainted money’……HH
Another super run by Rogic….corner Oz
The commentators really like the young Hoop…
Questioning why he’s not getting more of a run with us!
HH
The war , and it is a war for the scoddish foo’ball agenda is well underway.
The war is being fought on many fronts and none more immediate than the oul’ shocial mhedia.
Sites like this have become powerful influencers and our opponents are well aware of this.
Keep The Faith.
celtic_first
09:59 on 19 November, 2013
I can’t see a comedic figure like our hero derailing the Huns. He’ll get his pay off (in one form or another).
I hope he doesn’t have a favourite horse!
Morning all from Troon, the sun is oot,a slight frost and the
Isle of Arran is looking beautiful.
Tamrabam.
Clever & funny post.
No respect for the dead ?
Praecepta
The EPL is a basket case of deep pockets and empty heids.
QPR is a prime example of average players being paid zillions
for limited talent.If the fine is ever administered it be a step back
toward sanity.HH.
Choclabneedingwalkedalongthebeach”affootcsc”
praecepta
09:55 on 19 November, 2013
Seems to be a ‘rangers’ thing…hahahahaha…….seriously, though, there could be a few vacant slots in the EPL shortly….!!!!
Who in the name of god could follow all the players in this sevco scenario . Its like the grand old duke of york on here , one day were up , the next were down . Can i ask is HMRC not going ahead with the appeal agaibst the 2_1 vote . I also read on here yesterday they have the top QC in the country fighting their corner .
Quick feet again by TR (a delight to watch…..commentators)
Ball stuck like glue to his feet……
HH
Yorkbhoy
Hearts and Hibs jerseys in York? Don’t see many of those in Edinburgh!
LB
bankiebhoy1
Do you remember last year how thems boasted about shutting down …in their eyes all deadco hating sites…wonder what became of that!
Aren’t FFP Regulations enforced over a three-year period,to allow for a balancing of the books over that period?
TR……..got a little knock…should be ok
Game Over
Aus 1-0 Costa Rica
Rogic really looks the part.
HH
Big Nan
“overly wordy”. I love that wee phrase
Sorry,above to PRAECEPTA
jimtim
10:13 on
19 November, 2013
The HMRC appeal to the Upper Tier Tribunal is on, due to be heard early-ish next year.
Sipsini , nice to catch up on Friday . Pray tell , are you based in g69 ?
Sanna
EDIEINKIRKMICHAEL
Bearing in mind that legislation is typically drawn up by lawyers,I find it a tad hypocritical.
67 heaven………
Must make you feel good mate?
All that money in the PLC bank and a master of wit and repartee cracking old jokes at the AGM.
Whatever floats your banana boat old son.
lymmbhoy
10:13 on 19 November, 2013,
I was visiting my nephew in Edinburgh on Saturday, my great nephew looked resplendent in his baby celtic strip. HH
Guidetti looking to go out on loan. Could work out for us! Though I think we would still have to be in Europe to get him
http://www.givemesport.com/402489-manchester-city-starlet-admits-january-loan-exit-likely?autoplay=on&utm_source=outbrain-rss&utm_medium=outbrain-rss&utm_campaign=outbrain-rss
Good morning CQN .
Annual has arrived ’tis a thing of beauty ,it say’s perfect on the front
im sure it is. Well done to all concerned .
ryecatcher
10:24 on 19 November, 2013
Hahahahaha…..goog retort….!!!!!!……..we won’t shoot each other for having differing opinions on our Board…..unlike one or two on CQN, I don’t think you have a personal agenda in this area……to be honest, some really good, interesting posts from your good self generally…….