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Scottish clubs, including (original) Rangers, opposed the imposition of Strict Liability on clubs for offenses by their fans as long as the club concerned had undertaken all reasonable precautions to discourage and prevent those offenses.

In other words, if a club warn fans what is unacceptable behaviour, and confirm they will be banned from your stadium if they indulge, the club will not incur any punishment. As we know, it’s different in European competition, where clubs are held responsible for fans’ transgressions.

This is all fine and well, but it’s a moot debate after the Scottish Cup Final riot. Hibs and (Newco) Rangers may well have taken all reasonable precautions ahead of the game, but that changed for Newco immediately thereafter.

The statement defending the Newco fans taking the law into their own hands on the Hampden pitch that day is the opposite of undertaking all reasonable precautions. In fact, it was incendiary. I have little doubt it contributed to the actions of Newco fans in the first few months of this season, who appear to wandering around Premiership grounds ready to settle perceived scores.

Justification by Statement has continued. It’s now a pattern. The question for the SFA disciplinary panel, is whether they condone clubs encouraging fans taking the law into their own hands, as consistent with reasonable precautions, when deciding on actions by visiting fans at Celtic Park and Pittodrie.

It’s not. In fact, it’s dangerous and will lead to increasingly alarming situations until those setting the fires are brought to account. What happened at Celtic Park and Pittodrie was bad enough but far more serious consequences could lie ahead if this clarion call for Direct Action isn’t faced.

The players will still be buzzing from Wednesday night when they take to the field at Dens tomorrow lunchtime. We could blow Dundee away in a wave of effervescent football, or we could struggle to get heads out of the clouds. We’ve witnessed both scenarios before.

Jimmy Johnstone

You’re in for a treat tonight, the Jimmy Johnstone documentary is on BBC Alba at 9:30, on what would have been his 72nd birthday. It’s a brilliant journey into the life and family of an extraordinary-ordinary person. I thought I’d known all there was to know about the Jinky story, but I didn’t realise he was decades ahead of the game in terms of fitness and training techniques.

Brain injury

We have a special article out today, written by SunnyJim, on brain injury in the game (and a whole lot more). We re-examine a blow to the head taken early in the 6-2 game by Fernando Ricksen, who like Jinky, was struck by Motor Neurone Disease.

The game has a responsibility to its players, which means we all need to become educated in some of the risks.  Read the article, you’ll learn something significant about an incident you are very familiar with.

The Celtic Foundation has had a great boost already from all those who are doing the Great Scottish Run on Sunday on its behalf. Dozens of Celtic fans have been sponsored by hundreds of fans, raising thousands of pounds.

This will be the last you hear from me on the subject before the off; if you can help, here’s the place.

Thank you, and thanks to everyone who has already contributed.

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  1. Celticrollercoaster supporting Shay,our bhoy wonder along the way on

    Wee Shay Bhoy update from his Mum on facebook

     

     

    “Shay is now stable and awake again! Causing trouble already, pulling off his oxygen mask and shouting like he does, some bhoy giving us all a big fright like that. Thanks to everyone for their well wishes “

  2. vfr800a8 on

    NEGANON2 on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2016 5:46 PM

     

    Vfr you said

     

     

    “Absolutely spot on; as a Catholic of Irish descent I still suffer from sectarianism and bigotry, not racism.”

     

     

    What do you see the distinction between the two?

     

     

    Is this a sort of Stockholm syndrome I wonder.

     

     

    A rose by any other name…………..

     

     

    What is apfascinating is that you choose to make the distinction to it seems, in some ways, downplay it.

     

     

    Scotland is a fascinating lesson in sociology and psychology.

     

    _________________________________________

     

    I suffer some forms of discrimination because of my religion; my Irish heritage isn’t noticeable because I am white and speak with a Glasgow accent. Therefore the offence is down to my religion, not race. I also suffer bigotry and sectarianism because of my support of Glasgow Celtic. This is primarily by another “sect” (I won’t call them religious, because they aren’t).

     

     

    My wife suffers from racism because of her English accent; I see people abused in the street because of their colour.

     

     

    I make a distinction between sectarianism/bigotry and the casual racism displayed in Scotland because that discrimination is purely down to race/ethnicity rather than a political or religious belief.

     

     

    Your patronising accusation of Stockholm Syndrome is insulting in the extreme (and an example of why I often ignore your posts: because it becomes personal and insulting); as is your assertion that I try to downplay them.

     

     

    Nothing could be further from the truth; I make a point of taking anyone to task in private or public if I detect (or suspect) any hint of racism, sectarianism or bigotry because all are equally detestable.

     

     

    FAC the Act

     

     

    KTF

  3. Jobo Baldie on

    *** LAST MAN STANDING ***

     

     

    iF ANYONE KNOWS THE CURRENT WHEREABOUTS OF THE FOLLOWING CAN YOU PLEASE TELL THEM TO PUT DOWN THEIR DRINK AND SEND IN THEIR WEEK 5 PICK, PARTICULARLY AS THEY NOW ONLY HAVE 8 GAMES LEFT TO CHOOSE FROM. AND (looks up from Keyboard) APOLOGIES FOR SHOUTING ;-)

     

     

    CM67

     

    AuroraBorealis79

     

    Angelgabriel

     

    gordybhoy64

     

    Zico Maltese Bhoy

     

    Cathedral View

     

    Winealley Warriors

     

    Every Day’s A Scoolday

     

    Cosy Corner Bhoy

  4. sipsini on

    Just c&p this from the evening times, bfdj’s’ opinion on how hibs fans were out of order at the cup final…apologies if already posted…..

     

     

    If that is the case, the rules need to be looked at. It sends out the message to people that they can go on the park and have a go at managers and players because their club won’t get punished. This has set a really bad precedent.

     

     

    Rangers have rightly had plenty to say in the aftermath of the Scottish Cup final and the fans are upset at how the riot has been dealt with by the authorities.

     

     

    Everyone all around the world watched the pictures from Hampden and couldn’t believe what they were seeing. Now, I am sure they can’t believe what they are hearing after the judgement on Wednesday.

     

     

    It sums up Scottish football to be honest. It is an absolute joke that it has come to this.

     

     

    The rules will have to be looked at because there is no way that this situation can be allowed to happen again.

     

     

    There are bad supporters at every club and every club has supporters that will cross the line of what is acceptable at a football match.

     

     

    The fear is that they see this as a ‘well, if there is no punishment here then we can do what we like’. It just seems absolutely crazy and a cop out.

  8. BABASONICOS71 on

    BOBBY…

     

    Even if I disagree with you i’m not arguing.I compared you to Finkelstein a few weeks ago,you’re oot ma league noo. ;)))

  10. vfr800a8 on

    Neganon you said:

     

     

    The debate remains on removing catholic schools and the snapped (sic) did a deal with the Catholic Church to retain them in return for their silence on a range of matters. The OBFAC being one of them.

     

     

    Absolute nonsense. A sweeping statement with not a shred of evidence; a simple case of Catholic bashing if ever I witnessed one! I get enough of that in everyday life without it being open season on Catholics on CQN!

     

     

    I would suggest that unless you have incontrovertible proof that your statement is true that you do the decent thing and retract it!

     

     

    FAC the Act

     

     

    KTF

  11. An Tearmann on

    Celticrollercosster

     

     

    Cheers for the updates m, how lucky are we to have our health.will text you soon :-)

     

     

    HH

  12. i'vehadtochangemyname on

    It is truly right and just, our duty and salvation,

     

    always and everywhere to give you thanks, Father most holy,

     

     

    night night bhoys

  13. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BABASONICOS

     

     

    Haha,yer allowed to disagree with me,bud. Everyone else does,it’s the rules!

     

     

    HH.

  14. NegAnon2 on

    An tearmann. The Catholic Church did next to nothing politically through all the years of racism I lived through. It was too busy trying to protect its own position to care too much about its “flock”.

     

     

    I do know that salmond came to an agreement with a now disgraced leading light in the Scottish Catholic Church over schools and the OBFAC and a few other things.

     

     

    Forgive me for not caring whether you believe me or not.

  15. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    CELTICROLLERCOASTER

     

     

    Echo the above from ANTEARMANN

     

     

    Delighted the young fella is fighting back again.

     

     

    Gaun yersel,Shay!

  18. NegAnon2 on

    Vfr the Oxford religion defines racism as

     

     

    1[MASS NOUN] Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.

     

     

    Race can mean just about anything but the key point is the racist believing his race is superior. That fits very nicely with what goes on in Scotland.

     

     

    Bigotry and sectarianism is used in Scotland not as a substitute for racism but to suggest sameness. As in one side isa s bad as the other. That may be a bastardisation but it exists to avoid the truth of the situation.

     

     

    Your usual sense of offence is present whenever anyone disagrees with you. You seek offence and you portray those who disagree with you as less than you. Hence your recent article which essentially attacked your fellow Celtic supporters before bizarrely declaring Celtic are more than just a club.

  20. vfr800a8 on

    NEGANON2 on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2016 8:31 PM

     

     

    Thank you; you just confirmed precisely why I had previously refrained from responding to your inane ramblings.

     

     

    Consider this my last response.

     

     

    FAC the Act

     

     

    KTF

  25. An Tearmann on

    Neganon

     

     

    As I said at 7.26.

     

     

    Utter utter noonsenzse.

     

     

    Arrogannce and error combined in a shiteswipe..

     

    Scoop that poop-evidence please? Instead of wipin your guff all over the place.

     

     

    Hope your good.I dobt believe you.but thats ok too.

     

     

    HH

  26. Jobo Baldie on

    3 minutes till the JJ Film, woo hoo!

     

     

    Current ‘in play’ score Europe 3 USA 5

     

     

    Next update sometime after half 10.

     

     

    Enjoy!

  27. butsybhoy on

    Oh this shite about the coppers looking for the monkeys to hand in video footage of the scum wrecking

     

    the bogs.

     

     

    Nearly every video i have seen the coppers are in the bogs with them.

     

    where are their cameras and footage then.

     

     

    They are playing the victim card and deflecting every thing that they are doing.

     

     

    As usual feck all will happen till some poor soul walking home from the game will get well set upon or

     

    dare i say it murdered.

     

     

    HH

  30. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    NEGANON2 on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2016 8:21 PM

     

    An tearmann. The Catholic Church did next to nothing politically through all the years of racism I lived through. It was too busy trying to protect its own position to care too much about its “flock”.

     

     

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    Substitute ” The Labour Party ” for ” The Catholic Church ” and you have a point.

  33. An Tearmann on

    Sipsini.

     

     

    We did indeed.I didnt make it back to bv after tho.did you get my text wi his number?

     

    Hope the shoulder improves , was good catchin you dena, mountblow and angelG again.thoroughly enjoyed the game,which was a bonus for me.

     

    Good luck to your lass too j, it will do her no harm, learnin never does and it sounds like she is getting proper study support.

     

     

    HH

  34. Almore on

    Best wishes to Wee Shay and his family.

     

     

    BMCUWP: The folk with the tickets for Gordybhoy will watch the match in the Blane Valley tomorrow. They have your number and will make contact with you there. They are a party of five, three females and two males. There is no need for CCB to pay, I will organise that with Gordybhoy myself.

     

     

    They wondered why Celtic fans were watching the match in a city centre pub and not in a fans’ café……….beside the Superstore.

     

     

    Thanks for helping out and enjoy your day.

  36. Jobo Baldie on

    Almore –

     

     

    loving this constant Cafe theme. Did you ever hear about the guywho a few years ago that just randomly started posting local weather reports…. ;-)

  40. West End of East End on

    A good week for Celtic this week with the blog having a feelgood factor, then who pops up with his usual MO. I wish people would stop biting, I stroll past all his stuff now as it’s repetitive and pointless. It’s an opinion that is so entrenched that facts dont matter.

     

     

    2 -0 to Hearts away to Motherwell just now, hope Hearts are starting to find a bit of form for when the monkeys come calling…

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