I have two significant concerns about Walter Smith’s comments yesterday. He spoke about the events which followed Rangers liquidation in 2012:
“There was no necessity for Rangers to be put down into the Third Division.
“That will always stay in Scottish football. There will be a bitterness in the Rangers ranks. It will be a massive motivation for the club. It would certainly be for me.
“How can they forget what happened to them? Nobody could forget that.”
I’ve spoken to people at Celtic about security concerns ahead of the weekend. The game itself will almost certainly pass off without incident, but what happens on the streets of Glasgow and surrounding towns is anyone’s guess.
You will hear nothing even close to inflammatory from Celtic, senior fans groups, or anyone who cares about the club’s fans and wellbeing. Justifying bitterness due to (mis)perceived persecution ahead of this fixture is inciteful. I’m astonished Smith said this.
On his subject matter, let me give you an alternative scenario:
Newco Rangers are parachuted straight into the Premier League, hundreds of creditors are abandoned, they have a full squad of players and are not a penny in debt. They would have been out signing players within minutes of registration (they even tried to sign a player while still in administration).
With Oldco having won the league accumulating debts they would never pay in 2009, 2010 and 2011, Newco, free of legacy financial commitments, would have an excellent chance of winning again in 2013 and beyond.
This plan was one strand of Craig Whyte’s lunacy and it would have killed Scottish football. Celtic, and others, would have been left to consider, do we pay these millions of debts, or liquidate and spend the money on players instead? I had this very conversation with a senior figure in the game in October 2011, when the realisation of what Whyte was planning became evident. Utter mayhem would have ensued.
The damage done to the Rangers brand of clubs by allowing Newco access only to the bottom tier was huge. It’s consequences are yet to be appreciated by most fans. Newco may never win a top flight league.
But the question was not whether to impose a trauma on ‘Rangers’ or allow everyone to carry on as we had before, this was not an option. It was whether to allow the existing rules and processes to stand, allow responsibility for the enormous mismanagement of Rangers to be carried primarily by Newco, and have other clubs deal with the fallout, with or without a ‘Rangers’ club in the league.
Whyte’s plan replicated what he’d done in other industries, but it would have devastated Celtic in particular. We were beaten for years on the field by a team who could not pay their bills or correctly register their players, then we would be beaten again as they walked away from debts without consequence, which is why I wrote this article in October 2011 on the Prepack route for Rangers Newco.
Pretty much all of what I wrote about in that article came to pass, it had to be stopped (and you’ll never know the key movers in doing so). Smith should consider if the boot was on the other foot, if he would be happy to allow his club to be subverted in the manner he suggests would be good enough for others. It was simply never an option.
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Prestonpans Bhoy 9.48 I was at St. Joseph’s High School from 1952 till 1956, probably before your time. BTW all boys from 4th to 6th year…. No co-education when Ah were lad!
i really believe in a shoot on sight policy for sundays match,
i think their keeper is the biggest weaknest in that team, and thats against a very low benchmark.
over rated dross in fact
Canamalar.
If you give it just a wee bit of thought you will suss to whom you persist with
I thought the New Rangers club took the SFA to court and won but Scottish football did not suffer one iota
Something to do with a fine the new huns did not want to pay if I remember correctly
Apologies for the lack of correct grammar failed novelist
Turkish keyboard
Tontine
I wonder if Murphy was actually a bluenose anyway. Nowt would surprise me with Smith.
Probably where Supersalary learnt his “who are these people” chicanery?
Just clocked in for a wee catch up. CQN showing remarkable restraint and patience tonight.
“Walter’s” comments are more to do with season ticket sales than Sunday’s match.
“Look what they done to us now we are back support us and show them that we didn’t go away”
He probably had the brown envelope in his pocket as he was speaking por cierto.
HT- DD
Friday 7pm
Saturday 12am-3am
Sunday 3-6pm
His version of bold Fenian men is worth the trip in alone.
PB
I was 3rd year Saint Thomas Aquinas when The Wall Pink Floyd was released on my 15 year old sponge brain. 1979.
I still do not think they have yet paid that fine
Part of the 5 way agreement too
I wonder if they will ever pay that fine
Or the SFA take them to court to enforce it
Or will they deduct points
I do not think the SFA are too bothered
I think the SFA are they and they are the SFA
One big happy brotherhood
Kitalba
Good to see you on. Hope all good wi you.
HH
http://www.scotzine.com/2016/03/rangers-told-to-pay-250000-side-letters-fine/
Who would be so vain
So up themselves
To hold themselves a bench mark of intelligence on here
Who would be so bold
So stupid
So arrogant
So funny in the saddest possible way
DD,
you’re right did a Google , I wiz a punk anyway so I got a time scale excuse.
cosy,
Would be 74-80 me thinks, just a wean I am…….
Proudbhoy
Thank you. The Saturday time should be lively. The gig for me. ;)
HH
Proudbhoy
Cheers mate.
DD
If you go give me a shout.
DD
Got to run a bus to catch
Going home and was just passing a few hours trying to stay awake
Good luck to Res 12
and pay the living wage
Say Hello to San Paulo
Kitalba
Quite a few
PB
A wisnae allowed to be a physical punk. I was a mental punk though and John Peel helped me study for my O levels and Highers, admist a drug awakening period in my life. Magic Days. ;)
HT
Shout. Ginger Bearded Boab and I will be there. :)
DD
Another wee fav of mine…..In Search of the Lost Chord…The Moody Blues.
Fried loads of brain cells listening to that.
Some great songs on that album.
Still worth a listen.
HH
Kitalba
I don’t know if you knew Tommy Delaney? He was the cousin of John, Michael and I. Rip.
TGM
Peter Green is my favourite ever musician.
Peace and Love.
DD
Got a black magic woman.
Love Peter Green
One of the best…and a man of the world.
HH
DD -HT
Enjoy and stay safe.
I think cruncher is friendly with Macenbheath who posted on here, haven’t saw him post in a while mind you.
Time to hit the hay for me
Proudbhoy
Short Strand Bhoys are the bravest of brave.
Spent quality time in Saint Matthews with Macan and his lovely family.
Proper Gent.
Macanbheatha & Big Bones, 2 ex H-Block men, loved their contributions. These guys really suffered, loved the fact they survived and many years later could get fun out of football chat. If either of bhoys lurking, total respect to ye. Haste ye back.
Saw on Twitter that as of Tonight..7 Spanish Teams Qualified C/ L or E/ l….5 Are Still in It, Other 2 Elimanated by Spanish Sides…If True…Something Else..Well Done Spain..
Big game this weekend.
My youngest is on tour in England with his rugby club as Scottish champions. Two matches down south will give us an idea regarding how good this young side is.
Tomorrow is his first day with the Scotland squad for 14 year olds. It is a year long training, coaching and match practice programme and is the route to the professional game.
He hasn’t lost sight of Celtic. With free days recently he’d been to Kilmarnock to experience the ecstasy and Dundee for the disappointment.
But not Hampden. Not him, not me. His big brother is old enough to decide for himself and he is going.
So it’s rugby for me this weekend.
I Just Wonder sometimes if CQN is a Bit Ageist…Just a Thought, People i know on CQN are all Over 50 ..my Self Included..Just wonder if the young Celtic Fans ..Say..14- 20..would like a Rivallry with the huns..Like We Had…I would never see them again..But Thats Me Talking…Wonder what The Young Ones Think….Just a Thought..
31003 Sorry – was away from the computer there. Yes, on and off – I’ve posted for a number of years. Not here as often as I used to be.
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Sooooo…..
Hairy Hebriddean Black Puddin’…
Versus
Co-op Skwerrrr Sausage…
Versus
“Killie Pie”….
Who IS The Champion….??
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/660805/Pastry-wars-legal-battle-erupts-famous-Killie-pie-Kilmarnock-FC
[Hmmm..If Kilmarnock FC Do A Sevco…
Do They Lose ALL Their History….
AND The Rights To The ‘Killie Pie..?Ed]
You’ve NAILED IT, Maist Perspicacious Ed….
Even Wee Ivanka Hiz Been Sayin’ For Yonkers…
“Why Is Yon Auldheid Been Mithering Oan Forever Aboot Resolution 16……
Like ‘Mrs Miniver Goes Tae Croydon..’
When He Should Be CONTESTING The ‘OWNERSHIP’ Of BROXY-BEAR….”
We’re Sure Canamalar Will Provide The Requisite DNA Samples…
MrPastry’sHomeGuardCSC
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The Great Walking Eagle!
Just catching up after being oot for the evening,
Elidor69 – really good post earlier on and I think many others share your stance.
Disappointed with the Barca result as I hoped they would win the UCL once again, sad to Messi et al going through a slump in form at the worst loss ogle time. Hope Bayern do the business now. I just hope it’s not Real Madrid as I can’t stand Ronaldo, Pepe, Ramos,
Marcelo etc. Also, I’ve noticed that they seem to have the same level of arrogance and entitlement as a club as our recently deceased rivals. I used to like them back in 2002 when they won it at Hampden but not at this particular moment.
Call me paranoid but I think it’s almost a certainty that the draw on Friday will see them face Man City, a practical gimme to the final (in addition to their other handpicked draws of Roma and Wolfsburg). Think UEFA would like a Bayern v Real final.
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Not Many Folk Know It…
But The Donald’s Signature Hairstyle…
Was Inspired By The ‘Killie Pie’….
[ Should We Put In A Cheeky Offer For Killie FC Once They’re Relegated….
An’ Gie Oor Development Squad Regular Fixtures………..? Ed ]
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cant understand tims who will have nothing to do with sundays game and some who will have nothing to do with anymore games,”untill” the games been bent since i can remember and always will be in scotland.
get out and support celtic.
“Only team in top 4 divs in England and Scotland to play in a town without a railway station is Forfar, who ironically play at Station Park”
Modrin blog trivia facts are rubbidge.
Eastfife csc
GM
Good spot. Methil Central bus stoap.