I have two significant concerns about Walter Smith’s comments yesterday. He spoke about the events which followed Rangers liquidation in 2012:
“There was no necessity for Rangers to be put down into the Third Division.
“That will always stay in Scottish football. There will be a bitterness in the Rangers ranks. It will be a massive motivation for the club. It would certainly be for me.
“How can they forget what happened to them? Nobody could forget that.”
I’ve spoken to people at Celtic about security concerns ahead of the weekend. The game itself will almost certainly pass off without incident, but what happens on the streets of Glasgow and surrounding towns is anyone’s guess.
You will hear nothing even close to inflammatory from Celtic, senior fans groups, or anyone who cares about the club’s fans and wellbeing. Justifying bitterness due to (mis)perceived persecution ahead of this fixture is inciteful. I’m astonished Smith said this.
On his subject matter, let me give you an alternative scenario:
Newco Rangers are parachuted straight into the Premier League, hundreds of creditors are abandoned, they have a full squad of players and are not a penny in debt. They would have been out signing players within minutes of registration (they even tried to sign a player while still in administration).
With Oldco having won the league accumulating debts they would never pay in 2009, 2010 and 2011, Newco, free of legacy financial commitments, would have an excellent chance of winning again in 2013 and beyond.
This plan was one strand of Craig Whyte’s lunacy and it would have killed Scottish football. Celtic, and others, would have been left to consider, do we pay these millions of debts, or liquidate and spend the money on players instead? I had this very conversation with a senior figure in the game in October 2011, when the realisation of what Whyte was planning became evident. Utter mayhem would have ensued.
The damage done to the Rangers brand of clubs by allowing Newco access only to the bottom tier was huge. It’s consequences are yet to be appreciated by most fans. Newco may never win a top flight league.
But the question was not whether to impose a trauma on ‘Rangers’ or allow everyone to carry on as we had before, this was not an option. It was whether to allow the existing rules and processes to stand, allow responsibility for the enormous mismanagement of Rangers to be carried primarily by Newco, and have other clubs deal with the fallout, with or without a ‘Rangers’ club in the league.
Whyte’s plan replicated what he’d done in other industries, but it would have devastated Celtic in particular. We were beaten for years on the field by a team who could not pay their bills or correctly register their players, then we would be beaten again as they walked away from debts without consequence, which is why I wrote this article in October 2011 on the Prepack route for Rangers Newco.
Pretty much all of what I wrote about in that article came to pass, it had to be stopped (and you’ll never know the key movers in doing so). Smith should consider if the boot was on the other foot, if he would be happy to allow his club to be subverted in the manner he suggests would be good enough for others. It was simply never an option.
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Greenpinata:
“Some posters collectively play the poster not the post.
Is that cliquish?”
IF it is the same group of posters and IF it is an agreed agenda, then I would think it fair to call that group a clique.
I do not think those condition apply,
JJ
HAMILTONTIM on 14TH APRIL 2016 12:48 AM
TH
You’ve lost me. I was asking where you were sitting on Sunday.
I don’t think you’ve got a right to pontificate when you live in Canada.
How’s TonyD?
If it’s me your asking about ? I’m fine and well, but why the sudden interest in me while talking to someone else? What ever your beef is with another poster I’d appreciate you keeping me out of it, but if you have a genuine beef with me? Then just post it to my attention and we can take it from there.
PS
The NACSF (North American Celtic Supporters Federation) like the rest of us are real true Celtic supporters and get up in all weather and strange times just to watch CFC play, they also have tens of thousands of shares too, and they have opinions like the rest of us, there are many Tims in this blog from all over the world in here all day at all times keeping it going, I would suggest you make them feel welcome, by all means have a difference of opinion as we all do, but to disrespect another Tim poster because he won’t be sitting at Hampden on Sunday (I don’t know the guy but I bet he wishes he was) IMO is bang out of order, but that’s your style, I’v met you, and Sussed you out right away, your not my cuppa tea, nor am I yours, so maybe best if you keep me out of your silly early morning games, and I would also suggest that you don’t try to take on The NACSF either, unlike the CFC board they are not a soft touch, and! Is this just your opinion or is it backed by The Celtic Trust? To disrespect one Celtic Supporter from overseas, is to disrespect them all, just about sums you up, IMO.
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 14TH APRIL 2016 9:25 AM
When you postulated your support for Ronny , based on a statistical comparison with Warburton , you ended your reply with your assertion that I had ” admitted to being a right wing Tory .”
Relevance,dear boy ?
Or just playing to the gallery ? aka the majority on C.Q.N.
Mate. Bullying. That`s the issue. Not cliques .
Unacceptable in respectable company.
Alex Thomson has a blog up – questions for Walter Smith
HH
Radio North Angus, right now, playing the Fields of Athenry!!!
67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS
EPL Referees!
Talksport have just interviewed on of his fellow referees…………………
The ref in question lives in Leicester and supports Bristol City.
As was pointed out – the ref for the Crystal Palace v Norwich game last Saturday (a result which avoided Norwich getting clear of the Relegation Zone) was a Newcastle supporter.
And for good measure – Saturday’s ref for the Man Utd game lives 2 miles from Old Trafford.
You can’t beat a conspiracy when MSM led!!
Tony,
Maybe, the original poster should have stated his opinions in a less inflammatory style of writing , out of respect for his fellow Scottish Celtic supporters. Otherwise, he should not be surprised if others make comments he doesn’t like in reply.
That, like most things on here, is only my opinion, of course.
Greenpinata
“No doubt” ????
What removes the possibility of scepticism here?
Are you mistaking your own tendency to group and categorise a series of individual posters for the actual existence of a coherent group?
What are the rules for clique entry?
Almost every poster who expressed similar views towards Mr. Pastry as I did, is a poster with whom I have disagreed with on other points to do with Celtic and non-Celtic related matters.
Was I in a clique when I agreed with them? If so, which of us leaves the clique when we disagree with each other?
Or is the whole concept of a clique, just a childish way to wish away and dismiss genuine criticism of a point?
MOONBEAMSWD on 11TH APRIL 2016 7:52 PM
Kill Ultra
Hopefully now you guys can at least deal with your issues privately, sort them and move on without the public disagreements. Allowing the Res 12 guys to concentrate on the job at hand.
MWD
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KILL ULTRA on 12TH APRIL 2016 8:00 AM
MWD,Thanks. Hopefully, the healing process could begin with Auldheid re-issuing his invitation for me to meet up with one of the funders.
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MWD. I’m still waiting for Auldheid to reissue the invitation to the meeting where I would be confronted by an irate funder of Resolution 12 legal work. Now that Canamalar has admitted to having my name, address, telephone number and email address there should be no problem making contact with me.
Trad 88
How do I ask a question?
JJ
Obviously I mean on AT`s blog. I do know how to ask a question as shown at the opening of this post 0:-)
Green Pinata,
the 90’s are irrelevant to my question, why are you avoiding the difference between backing the board to the hilt and backing the club to the hilt, I’ve used a very easy analogy. is it because you cannot dispute it, and that you can not bare to face the reality, therefore bury your head and shout ‘go away scary monster’ aye that worked for the huns didn’t it.
In the following Green Pinata, I do not refer to you as a halfwitt I enjoy our discussions though sometimes I do get frustrated because I don’t seem to have the words you understand, I know you think the same.
The board are loaded with responsibilities, they took the jobs because they consider themselves qualified and experienced enough to take on those responsibilities, we are told, they are also well paid.
What I cant understand is why some halfwitts think they are defending the club when they are in fact only defending employees, the same halfwitts have no problem having a go at other employees further down the food chain but when it comes to the board they seem to be sacrosanct, why is that do you think ?
Or why the halfwitts think they need to defend such esteemed and indispensable employees, do they think these masters of commerce are not bright enough to defend themselves, do they honestly think silence on big issues is anything other than a condescending smack on the face to supporters who are worried about their decisions and the direction they are taking the club ?
It is our job as shareholders to ensure they are protecting the clubs interests, not their own or a minority of them, not to blindly follow follow their every decree and declaration on their say so, too many companies not just the hun have been destroyed by blind loyalty, or misplaced deference to suits because they are in a position of power.
Ignore that – AT blog is from 2012, not new. Just a repost online. Relevance though…
DHARMA BAM
My post was for Hamiltontim, no one else.
Y NOT67 on 14TH APRIL 2016 9:35 AM
Wasn`t sure until now.
Tony D.
It`s yersel.
Thank god you weren`t bullied off the blog.
Mind you, they had a good try.
Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on 14th April 2016 9:44 am
Trad 88
How do I ask a question?
JJ
Obviously I mean on AT`s blog. I do know how to ask a question as shown at the opening of this post 0:-)
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Unless hes back on the case only with a time machine I’m afraid…
HH
TonyD
That sounds like a threat.
Ps I was a Celtic supporter and a poster on CQN long before I got involved with the Trust. If I’m giving the views of the Trust on here then I always say so.
Tony,
I realise that and I’m sure he is more than capable of replying to you. However perhaps when posting it on a public blog like CQN you’re going to have to consider it is going to be read by everyone not just the person you’re addressing.
KLOOKS KLEEK at the The Railway Hotel in West Hampstead was a mighty fine place to go .
Took its’ name from this mighty fine LP — Kenny Clarke -Klooks Clique ( Savoy Records ).
Mid 20s hot n sunny -way down south -feels like spring
Good to see the auld CQN panto season back in full swing
DHARMA BAM
I don’t see the poster being inflammatory here at all, I see the exact opposite, IMO.
HAMILTONTIM on 14TH APRIL 2016 12:25 AM
TIMHORTON on 14TH APRIL 2016 12:01 AM
cant understand tims who will have nothing to do with sundays game and some who will have nothing to do with anymore games,”untill” the games been bent since i can remember and always will be in scotland.
get out and support celtic.
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Where is your seat on Sunday mate?
TIMHORTON on 14TH APRIL 2016 12:28 AM
ht bramalea celtic supporters club 7am ko. anything else.
HAMILTONTIM on 14TH APRIL 2016 12:30 AM
Timhorton
So from Canada you’re telling Tins how to support Celtic?
Nae borra (that translates as not a problem!)
TIMHORTON on 14TH APRIL 2016 12:43 AM
you seem to have a chip on your shoulder ht
HAMILTONTIM on 14TH APRIL 2016 12:48 AM
TH
You’ve lost me. I was asking where you were sitting on Sunday.
I don’t think you’ve got a right to pontificate when you live in Canada.
How’s TonyD?
Morning Bhoys a nice bright morning here in Central Scotland. Well I see the good Celtic fans on CQN having a go at each other like children in the school play ground. I understand we have different points of view when talking about all things Celtic and football and we should accept that but we have few bloggers who think they have the right to verbally abuse other posters well they are wrong and totally out of order.Do I think they will change? no sadly I very much doubt it they hide behind there key boards and try to degenerate other Celtic fans they are indeed sad people who I would expect to see in the Rangers end on Sunday rather than the Celtic end for me good Celtic fans can disagree with each other then move on and have a beer together many on CQN just cannot do that they always have to be little other posters and have the last word. H.H.
SOAL
Oh no it isn’t!
IMO, we’ll have to agree to differ then, Tony,
TonyD
You are right, there was no need for me to mention you in my post to TH.
Kill Ultra,
I thought I had made my intentions clear, I will not be your postman, if you want to talk to Auldheid then do as Auldheid said and go through Paul67, I said I will discourage Auldheid from meeting you and I stick by that, whether you like it or not, you can scweem and scweem till your face turns blue for all I care, as the finances were not from any public request, you have no right to be demanding the source.
You were asked to support Res12 and you did, that’s it, i did not say that if you were unhappy with the direction you could hound people demanding information you do not have any right to demand. You’ve made your position clear, you do not trust us and you believe we have sold out the resolution, fair enough, that’s your view and you’re welcome to it.
I said before the only way Res12 can be judged is by results, it is not your place to decide the timescale for us, you can decide your own but we do not need to comply with that, ok get it ??
Hamiltontim
You mean it reads like a threat? Not at all just advice. I’v met you as I said, and I know the North American Celtic Supporters (most of them and they are all true Tims to a man) I just can’t vision you standing in conversation with one of them and saying….I don’t think you have the right to pontificate when you live in Canada….. All I’m saying is, it wouldent go down very well, IMO that is.
This is 2016, the huns died and we are top of the league. We have every chance of a double and we had 50k crowd for a stupid KO time live on the telly game. The Celtic way is magical, and we have a modern stadium. I get regular updates via e -mail from the club and Celtic and the Celtic foundation provide more for charity that at any time in our history. Our young supporters can take positions down the front without the need for painted crash helmets. Etc, etc etc.
Nothing like circumstances in the early 90’s.
Of course there is always room for improvement but we are generally a well run club
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I agree with Construction, hard hat and all, of your post up to a point.
Did the current incubants provide the means to create the magnificent, and occassionally atmospheric, stdaium that is our home?
The facade that is the Celtic Way is for this supporter less important than the spiritual, in terms of hisrtorical Celtic Way, I was born into. The Celtic Way facade looks magnificent but the Celtic Way is now a soulless entity founded on finance, dividends, bonus’s and controlled by fear and favour.
Seriously, you are holding up an at the time unavailable resource of the early nineties as a pat on the back for our current incumbents? Do you not believe if available the old board would have used this means to propagate their truths as the current executive does now if available? The Celtic View is literally and electronically available to you in real time today. The only means was postal system and a weekly paper back then. Unless of course you know something I don’t and Celtic created the internet, developed HTML & Java etc. etc. etc.
The Foundation and the creation of the Foundation is I agree a fantastic vehicle that allows Celtic supporters to donate and participate (at personal cost) in various charitable events were charitable funds in the majority are sourced from supporters, their friends and their families pockets in the majority.
Indeed the circumstance over the years have changed but truth, honesty and transparency IMO are pretty much rooted in the same personal greed albeit the current PLC are far better at that than the Old Board could ever have hoped to be!
MWD
Trad 88:
“Unless hes back on the case only with a time machine I’m afraid…”
There is a poster on CQN who can arrange that. Or maybe he already has done?
JJ
A extract from very good read
However, to demand that everyone ‘move on’ at this particular point with so many issues clearly unresolved is patronising, shows an utter contempt for supporters of other clubs and is above all unsustainable in terms of the future of Scottish football; like trying to walk again after a broken leg before your bones has healed sufficiently.
The only way to set in motion events that may lead to such a sustainable compromise for all parts is a signal of contrition and acknowledgment of responsibility from Rangers. In short, Scottish football needs a ‘truth and reconciliation process’ and it needs the Ibrox club to be a willing participant.
http://90minutecynic.com/truth-and-reconciliation-in-scottish-football/
aff oot due to the usual suspects posting there macho egotistical shite
Enjoy your day CQN
Tony D. I cannot understand Celtic supporters who are willing to pay hard earned money to watch rigged Scottish football. I do realise there are more of you Bhoys than supporters like me who will not put one brown penny into the game.It just makes no sense to me at all but its your money. H.H.
HAMILTONTIM on 14TH APRIL 2016 9:59 AM
TonyD
You are right, there was no need for me to mention you in my post to TH.
That’s fine by me, I’ll leave it at that.
Canamalar
Respect to you bud.
You keep answering…they dont want to listen.
Like you say…its an attempt to sow discord and confuse the issue.
You will do for me….you refused to accept the cheating and done something about it.
Keep batting them away….its too easy for you:)
HH
JFH
You’ve got me wrong mate, I don’t go to away games, or Hampden for the reason you just posted, that’s my stance, I buy my season ticket for CP home games and European games, BUT! I do not have any problem with anyone who does go to away games and Hampden.
macjay
“you (SFTB) ended your reply with your assertion that I had ” admitted to being a right wing Tory .”
Relevance,dear boy ?”
My recollection was , and it is just from unchecked memory, that we have discussed and were discussing a wide range of issues, not just the stats on Warbs/Deila. Now you do have right wing Tory views and you are not ashamed of them, expressing them regularly on here, so they become relevant in the same way that you see a coherent group of, supposedly uniform, leftish views on here and comment upon them. This is an issue of sauce for goose and gander alike.
Or just playing to the gallery ? aka the majority on C.Q.N.
Has there been a poll? How would I know how many right wingers there are? How many individual people are behind the output of TSD/Kojo/The Donald etc;?
Even, if I accept your premise that the majority on here are left-ish of centre, as the majority of Scotland are, would CQN be the most left wing Celtic site I could find? Would I even qualify as a Left-ish poster on other sites?
No, I am here on CQN because I find it mostly congenial but it has been very trying lately because a lot of old posters who could make their points forcefully without rancour and without crossing the road to take offence have left and I think the blog is diminished by their loss.
Some of the posts that you and I make will meet with approval, many will be ignored, some will be scrolled by and a few will attract disagreement and criticism. Neither of us is “playing to a gallery” but we are both aware that there is a gallery there. It would be dead easy to play to a gallery. I would be making many more posts critical of the Board if I was attempting to just fit in but I stick to my original viewpoint that the Board is, mostly, an irrelevance in most of our triumphs and woes, but it is neither exempt from criticism nor as guilty as most people seem to find it. I very much doubt tat I would be seen as in tune with the majority view on Board matters here.
Mate. Bullying. That`s the issue. Not cliques .
Oh! When did we move on from that? Because I am sure that it was cliques that were referenced this morning not bullying.
Anyway to address your new issue. Disagreeing with someone is not bullying, else you would be a bully too and I am sure you do not see yourself in that light. Neither is being in a majority camp in taking a critical stance towards a poster, a condition that constitutes bullying. Otherwise, any argument that is not supported by exactly 50% of respondents is an argument involving bullies vs bullied. That would be an absurdity.
No, JJ earlier gave the conditions that would constitute bullying. It would involve features of being in concert, collusion and organised support. I have stated that I did not consider other viewpoints in taking my stance and I have never considered just taking the popular easy opinion. My viewpoint is as genuine as yours. When I assert my view I am as bullying as you or any other individual poster (multi-posters are a different kettle of fish).
I once posted on CQN that I thought the Liverpool team of the 80s was over-rated. Every, and I mean every as there was not one in support, following view disagreed with me and some even ridiculed my view. Was I bullied? Should I have phoned Esther Rantzen? No- I was merely wrong. And I’ll be wrong again.
Unacceptable in respectable company.
I think bullying, which is a far more serious matter than these wee spats, should be avoided and I disapprove of it as much as you do. But I am pleading Not Guilty here.
I expressed my view and I claim equal right to do so with yourself and equal right to disagree. When I do so, I seek to persuade rather than silence.
And if I was seeking to silence, I would have to own up to being spectacularly unsuccessful as the posters with whom I disagree, remain Legion. Beyond our mutual support of Celtic FC, we are all unique and different and I still think I need few lessons, though maybe an odd reminder would not go amiss, on how to behave in respectable company.
Canamalar.
I too enjoy our little spates. CQN would be boring if we all agreed with everything. When we eventually have a pint together I do wonder if I’ll get a word in. :-))))
Yes on ocassion I do defend the board, because I have witnessed first hand a board that gave the fans everything that wanted and dreamt about. I make no apology for asking you :- how did that turn out at Greyskull?.
We have rich men on our board. Automatically that create a divide and disconnect with the majority of supporters. Would you prefer a board with a convicted multiple offender at the helm. Or one like at Man U that put the club in debt to finance their take over.
We see paranoia about heated driveways etc. what relevance does that have?
Our board has been hammered over the LW. I think everybody should get paid the LW , providing no jobs are lost by contractor companies at Parkhead. Do you think some unfortunate part time workers losing their jobs is a price worth paying ? I don’t.
I would not like to see supporters on the board. Corruption and dubiety have increased in Germany since fan ownership and / or participation on the board became the norm. I use Germany as an example, because there is nothing in the UK on that scale. Do you not think we have enough corruption in Scottish football ?
Hopefully this answers some of your questions from my own perspective.
HH.
Hopefully this answer
MWD,
BRTH advised that most of the money raised for the foundation is raised through grant and chatirible trust applications, though most of that money comes through our taxes and individuals donating.
I think you might get away with saying the supporter donate more money than the club but BRTH would probably be able to clarify that.
This is John James blog yesterday, stating that Walter Smith received a ‘loan’ from the oldclub, while manager at Everton. I know people on here have proven that JohnJames is frequently inaccurate, however he surely wouldn’t risk the Wrath of Walter (legal or otherwise) by stating this unless he was on very sure ground?
https://johnjamessite.com/2016/04/13/charlottes-surprise/#comments
“Charlotte’s Surprise
When Graeme Souness paid a visit to Glasgow courtesy of William Hill, something so rare occurred at The Daily Record that I posit that we should name a comet after it. Let’s call it Cooney’s Comet, which is an elegant aliterative title. Their Sports Editor’s disquiet apropos Mr Souness’ EBT led to an actual question as to why the former Rangers manager received a tax free ‘loan’ long after he had left the club. I have access to a list of 111 EBT recipients and I can confirm that the tax due to The Rangers Football Club plc for his ‘loan’ in tax year 2001/2002 was £20,000 with a National Insurance demand of £5,950 as per calculations on 28th February 2008. Using the multiple of 1.5 on PAYE tax, which I’m reliably informed is the basis of HMRC calculations, we arrive at an EBT of £30,000 which has been widely reported in the media.
What may come as a surprise to many is that second on the list of the 28th February 2008 determinations by HMRC was the amount of £53,333.20 of PAYE tax due on a ‘loan’ to Walter Smith in tax year 2002/2003. The Section 8 determination of National Insurance tax due on this ‘loan’ was £15,739.30. The actual EBT was £80,000.
Call me a cynic, but when one former manager who spent £18m in transfer activity with Rangers after he left the club invokes £25,950 in tax to his employer and another who purchased Rangers players at Everton has a tax payable of £69.072.50, there is a pattern emerging that would either suggest that they both engaged in ‘scouting’ activity and received the appropriate recompense, or something more sinister was going down.
Chic Young, of BBC Trumpton, who recently discarded his St. Mirren beard to reveal the worst kept secret in Scottish football that he was and has always been a Rangers supporter, has a certain renown for dismissing claims against Rangers with a throw away euphemism. When he referred to Mr Ogilvie’s £95,000 EBT settlement from Rangers he spoke of a sum sufficient for a good night out in Glasgow. One would have to choose wines of a 1950s vintage to spend this amount. Mr Ogilvie received in each of tax years 2001/02, 2002/03 and 2003/04 an EBT of £5,000. If I had five thousand pounds at my disposal of an evening I could guarantee a good night out with the caveat that I would not be dining in a private room at Hotel Du Vin, which was the preferred clandestine arrangement of Stewart Regan when he would meet up with Craig Whyte. We can but hope that Mr Whyte had his special pen in his lapel pocket to capture Mr Regan at his obsequious best. Given that we know that the total received by Mr Ogilvie was £95,000, we must assume that £80,000 was paid after the dates of consideration.
In the period of consideration, which encompasses the seven tax years 2001/2002 to 2007/2008 the total amount of PAYE tax due was £27,275,478.06. The National Insurance tax due on these loans was assessed by HMRC to be £5,112,510.07. This amount does not include the £2.8m tax due for the DOS/VSS tax avoidance vehicle and other EBT loans received in tax years 2008/09, 2009/10 and 2010/11. As of 15th March 2010, David Murray was aware that he had a significant tax bill of £35,187,988.13. for the period to 30 April 2008,with more to follow when 2008/09, 2009/10 and 2010/11 were assessed. The total of EBT ‘loans’ issued in this seven year tax period was just shy of £41m (£40,913,217.09). We know that Mr Murray, who is not included on my information received £6.3m. We also know that he charged Rangers £500,000 per annum for his botched tax advice. When we add all these amounts, Mr Murray issued over £50m (£50,713,217) in EBT in a seven year period, excluding payments made to MIH executives. Is it any wonder he passed this liability to Craig Whyte just over a year later, or would we prefer to believe that he was duped?
Those who benefitted from the DOS/VSS strategem also did well from the EBT scheme. PAYE tax due to Tore Andre Flo was £866,666.80 (EBT of 1.3m) with Craig Moore’s PAYE tax assessed at £178,000 (EBT £267,000). Not to be outdone Ronald De Boer PAYE tax was £1,066,981 (EBT £1.6m).However I posit that Mr Barry Ferguson has the biggest problem as his PAYE tax due is £1,908.000.40 and his National Insurance due is £525,073.13 for the period 2001/02 to 2007/08 inclusive. Using the general rule of thumb of multiplying the PAYE tax due by 1.5, Mr Ferguson’s EBT was £2,862,000.60 which was higher than the £2.5m reported. His actual tax due is closer to the reported sum at £2,433,075.53. The bigger problem is that I believe that there was an amnesty on payment without penalties which expired on 30th April 2015. A fifty per cent penalty could result in a demand of £3.86m. Of course as we note that Mr Ferguson left his second stint of employment with Rangers in 2009, one year after the period of consideration, his EBT ‘loans’ might be in excess of £3m.
Some individuals who now have leading roles in the media did very well from EBT. Sky’s Neil Doherty McCann was reported as receiving £500,000. This was inaccurate. He actually received twice this amount, a cool million pounds. I wonder if Mr McCann, who likes to inhabit the moral high ground on rules, paused to consider the underworld connotations off £666,666 PAYE tax due? He may not have noticed as he banked his £1m in 3 tranches, or he may not be in any way superstitious. However when he receives his demand for National Insurance of £213,747.78 and adds this to his PAYE tax due, he will be subject to a demand of £880,413.78. A penalty of 50% could result in £1.32m being due.
What I find surprising as I survey the PDF file that runs to three pages is the seven dates when tax was due, or as Mr Regan is fond of saying when the taxes ‘crystallised.’ Given that social taxes were outstanding for these tax years, will Sandy Bryson be kind enough to apprise us of his audits of SDM’s Rangers during this period? Could they be classified as somewhat ‘imperfect?’ As for UEFA qualification with outstanding social taxes during this period, maybe questions should be asked of SFA treasurer Campbell Ogilvie ( 2003-2007) as to what if any influence he may have had when elevated to the office of Vice President in 2007?”
Some interesting stuff here.
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/rangers/rumour-mill-waghorn-could-face-celtic-roberts-happy-at-parkhead-killie-fans-slam-old-firm-screening-1-4099864