What a lot of nonsense we’re been through since last week. My information was that we were interested in Roy Keane but no deal had been concluded. Martin O’Neill helpfully (cough) poured fuel on the fire by confirming he gave Roy permission to speak to Celtic, but despite several newspapers running the story that he was set to be appointed no later than today, the deal was never as close as reported.
Roy’s position on the short list was made time-critical by the fact that he was due to leave on tour with Ireland tomorrow, but talks continued in parallel with other targets.
The overwhelming reaction to yesterday’s news among the Celtic support was that we had a lucky escape. There was a Rangers fan who used to come onto the CQN comments section after Neil Lennon’s first season in charge and taunt us that Dermott Desmond was going to sack Neil and appoint Roy Keane. We didn’t take him seriously………
I’ve never been in the business of rubbishing Celtic players or managers before they arrive (although I’ve never backed a managerial appointment since starting CQN) but Keane represented a huge and unacceptable risk to Celtic. We have an excellent football infrastructure and development strategy, with good coaches at all levels. We need a technically gifted tactician, capable of dovetailing with this strategy. Whatever Keane is, there is little evidence that he is a tactical genius, or that he’s likely to dovetail with anyone else’s strategy. The potential disruption his unique brand of focus would bring could be considerable.
Although you can expect a daily drip of ‘news’, I don’t expect any actual news in the short-term.
Visit the CQN Bookstore to get Tommy Gemmell to sign your personal copy of his tome, All the Best.
Shout out to Frank O’Hagan, who supported the CQN Charity Golf Day with his music three years ago. He’s playing Glasgow Uni Union on Friday night, get along if you can.
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Has anyone mentioned Nigel Clough yet ?
fanadpatriot
18:25 on 3 June, 2014
Has anyone mentioned Nigel Clough yet ?
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In relation tae whit??! :-)
bournesouprecipe
15:29 on 3 June, 2014
LiviBhoy
I had high hopes for Pierce at one time, and remember that Easter Rd shoot out.
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I was lucky enough to get the match ball from that game when Pierce missed the penalty.
Found it washed up from the River Forth at the beech at Hopetoun.
Don’t think I’ve seen a worse pen.
Over the bar by miles !
Good Evening Timland.
Big bad Roy Keane hears wee Kenny’s back
at ibrokes, and bricks it.
Paul67….we need a manager in now,and once
again I ask your good self,WHO IS YER FANCY?
Mncelt
Very Droll.. Pal…
When ye say.. “If we Go fur Jackie. .. Celtic wull Win the League, Next Season.”
Heck..
If Celtic Appointed Me..as Manager.. Celtic. Wid Win the League, next Year..tae..
N Ah dinna Know Ma Elbow fae Ma Pituitary Gland.. aboot… Fitba’…eethur!
Awe kidding aside..
Jackie fits the Celtic Template..
The Wan that they Ur Using . the Noo..
He wull
Come..
Cheap.. Young..n… Callow.. n Malleable… Jist the Kind of a Guy… that Pierre Likes.
n.. Despite whit Neil , may say tae the Contrary..
that is Exactlleee..
Why.. Celtic Picked Him, fur the Joab!
Fur, Neil .. fitted the Template.. Perfectleeee.
Nice Chattin’..as Per Usual.. Palomine.
Kojo
Still, Chatting..
Gotta. .. Go…Joe..
Seeya.
16 roads
Eddie the Eagle
R u taking the “piste “
Ghuys,
I guess one of the exam questions for any prospective new manager is how would you improve the team, given broadly the same budgetary constraints.
My preference would be a better balance in midfield , with players who require one or two touches on the ball , supported by a more movement up front , allowing our midfield to pick out a pass.
The failed Mowbray experiment (i.e. everyone up and jog back when you lose the ball) should sent warnings out about Managers who pander to the support and ‘want to play the Celtic way – whatever that means’. I feel Jackie definitely falls in this category and Malky could but never saw enough of Cardiff , Watford to form a judgement.
Assuming that our remuneration package will not measure up to Lambo, Moyes and Clark’s expectations then we are struggling for a serious UK candidate.
We have breathing space (this year) for possibly a European coach to re-shape the playing style, fitness regimes ,to ensure that we have a pacier , one touch game …………… sounds like a ‘mini’ – Martinez, Rodgers, Laudrup ………… balancing this ideal up, we have the peculiar refereeing standards (you are allowed to thump the opposition , if they earn large multiples more then you in take home pay) and horrible pitches for 4 months of the year ………. which can often negate ‘tip tap football’.
Unless there is a top-class , upcoming European coach, with excellent references then for me , which is doubtful, reality suggests Malky in prime position.
Paul has totally lost me on that header ” excellent development structure. “. Yup lost me and thousands there Where ?
Ps I was at Easter rd also when pierce blootered it towards fife
A lot of fans beside me were leaving there seats in the stand as he walked up to take it
Not to bothered by the time it’s taking to get somebody in.
Rather we took our time and got the right person.
Players are not back to the 24th so no real rush imo.
“sadly we are grubbing about looking for someone who will work for a relative pittance.”
Tet I’m guessing you are like the rest of us and have no idea who we are grubbing about for.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/vincent-hogan-humility-and-maturity-at-the-root-of-keanes-decision-to-stay-put-30323569.html
Probably the most balanced piece I’ve read on the Kean saga
there are some comments on here about the manager situation that read more like applications for a position as daily record journalist than genuine debate on the subject
no one on here knows whats going on behind the scenes so forming opinions on lennon keane lawell or desmond based on your own speculation is daily record material
sixtaeseven natlnow
18:14 on 3 June, 2014
yorkbhoy
All I know is that Lenny leaving and the possible cadidates for the job has been a godsend for the SMSM.
And when a new manager is installed they’ll all claim they knew from the start it would be him…
Hoopydo
Bang on mate.
The fact no-one from Celtic is running to the red tops every 5 minutes (ala sevco) is driving some folks wild.
Paul67 et al
Well some, well Don King for one, might say that our ‘strategy’ just left town. Or in a word, has just failed. I am of the view that with BT more or less taking over the Champions League next year, and with a corresponding increase in CL money, even for the SPFL, this is a season ahead when we need to maintain our European profile. That meant supporting our then manager, instead of humiliating him over Samaras. Peter Lawwell lost Neil Lennon followed by Dermot |Desmond entering the fray and trying and failing to get Roy Keane.
To lose one Irish manager is unfortunate, to lose two Irish managers is, well, careless.
oscarwildecsc
Hoopy Geordie
I think its more likely that your own powers of deduction are piss poor.
Nothing to be ashamed of but to be shouting it from the roof tops ???
Not my bhoy
HH
Celtic. Period.
– Godsend for the scoddish media……….
By pandering to the lumpen sectarian pocket of the knuckle-draggers, windbags and bawbags in the media whose names are synonymous with slanderous rabble rousing and muckraking made hay at our expense.
We’re having the last laugh.
HH.
If the board continue to overlook Bernie Clifton and his ostrich as the obvious DOF and coach duo they could do worse than Glenn Hoddle. He is looking to get back into management and is a brilliant coach. This despite his “peculiar” views on reincarnation.
I know, I know………….
Good evening friends.
Hard for punters of my generation to swallow.
It is now evident that Celtic are simply the biggest fish in a fast draining small pool.
Celtic Mac
Remind me how many league games Samaras started last year?
Also our CL opponents cottoned on to the obvious that we were a one trick pony using Georgios as an out ball.
Baffled that a manager would resign over not offering georgios a new contract … Still wait for the best seller and we will find out , my theory is simpler ( less conspiratorial) . Neil didn’t fancy another 2 years and after the CL this year , where we were more expansive ( Barca apart) considered he had taken the team as far as he talent would allow.
Eddie the Eagle anyone?
MWD says AYE
Now Lenny went into job with no experience
So How about someone like Tom Boyd (docs his stalker right enough)
who has never had anything negative to say about us, don’t know if he has any coaching badges
And get a couple of highly rated coaches with him, there is a few available
Just a thought
Hail Hail
..the smert money’s still on
Sam Malone – DoF (good for the Irish American market)
with Ernie Pantuso as Coach ( wise head, safe pair of hands)
HH
I am with Hoopy-doo and Geordie, sometimes I wonder about our fans.
Paul.
You say that Keane would have an unacceptable risk for Celtic.
Being close to PL why don’t you ask him why an unacceptable risk was even contemplated?
quonno
What generation is that ?
Were you not about in the nineties when we weren’t even the biggest fish in the small pool ?
Saw my first Celtic game in 1949.
Wee John McKay was given a tie…
But I fear it will never be seen….
‘Cos believe me…it’s true….his ties are all blue…
And this wan wiz white and green…..
As for the new person ( well…it might be a wumman…..ma wife’s applied)….
As long as they know how to get defenders to defend….that’ll do for me……
We might get away with the Franz Beckenbauer stuff in Scotland…..we won’t in Europe.
Correction…we didn’t…in Europe.
Not too surprised when NFL left, even less surprised when RK opted out. I expect to see a dak horse on the rails taking up the race and we wil be very surprised. My guess is a European in his early forties, with a decent playing pedigree and modest CV, that appears to be our model lately.
So far I could pick holes in all the relevant candidate’s CVs ……….
My main worry is this ……from a unbelievable position of strength ………a good young manager ..( who gets it)…..3 leagues in a row…..decent squad…….two or three additions ……..say…..Snodgrass……..and a couple more…..not breaking the bank stuff……sell the duds…….and complete domination for at least 5 or 6 years……..
We could easily go back at a helluva rate of knots………..it happens so easily in this game………careful Celtic careful………
Quonno
how true.
* hoopy-do
18:58 on 3 June, 2014
there are some comments on here about the manager situation that read more like applications for a position as daily record journalist than genuine debate on the subject
no one on here knows whats going on behind the scenes so forming opinions on lennon keane lawell or desmond based on your own speculation is daily record material
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Maybe we should all go away and do domething else then and Paul could syop blogging. I mean why should anyone bother posting at all? You seem to miss the point of CQN.
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Neil Lennon’s reasons for leaving were personal and not relating to anything to do with Celtic. Can’t understand why we continually kick the club for no reason. There’s plenty to find fault with but not that.
Still think there are moves afoot – and there is something very curious about Aston Villa.
EKbhoy
You can’t blame the pony for being the only trick in the circus.
Aiden Bhoy
18:48 on
3 June, 2014
Not to bothered by the time it’s taking to get somebody in.
Rather we took our time and got the right person.
Players are not back to the 24th so no real rush imo.
You mentioned the 24th June. So, too, did Neil when asked the timescale he was working to for appointing Johan’s replacement.
I heard this from the man himself at a Q&A session in the Jock Stein lounge days before he quit.
I know he would not tell us everything that’s going on but I’d still love to know why he decided to go so suddenly.
cowiebhoy
19:20 on 3 June, 2014
What about Henrik and Peter Grant…:)
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy @ 19.27 – agree completely, good post – and a lot better than your recent 10 in row podium attempt :-)