Kettling, def., the confinement by police of a group of demonstrators or protesters in a small area, as a method of crowd control. The kettling of football fans now appears to be a standard part of police armoury, in Glasgow as well as in Paris. As a fan, it feels that police don’t like fans congregating, or even queueing, outside a ground, they would prefer to ‘kettle’ them in a claustrophobic area, where a small number of officers and horses can establish authority over the crowd.
When kettled, you are immediately aware of the danger. A crowd is a dynamic entity. Crushing is not inevitable, but everyone is vulnerable to a few bad actors. Decision making police always seem to be far away from the kettle. Policies were laid down, probably days earlier, the officers, vehicles and horses involved in the enforcement are, at best, several minutes away from an authorised action to de-escalate an incident.
What happened at the Champions League final, hours before kick-off, a kilometre from the stadium, was lazy and dangerous policing. French politicians and Uefa officials immediately blamed fans, that hoary old habit. Fans – people – deserve better.
The police actions in Paris on Saturday evening did not happen spontaneously. Rioting has been a growing problem in French football since the return of crowds, culminating in an out of control pitch invasion by Saint Etienne fans last night, after a penalty competition consigned them to Ligue 2 next season. Police response to a legitimate issue, was to profile football fans prejudicial manner.
For decades across Europe, authoritites too lazy or understaffed to police properly, expose fans to danger and intimidation.
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can anyone who actually attends celtic park standing section share their expereinces of dangerous over-crowding in the standing section ?
my 70 year old uncle, his 45 year old son and two grandsons are in that section, often sharing pictures and clips of the events. doesnt look overcrowded to me.
can anyone say that it is ?
Definitely overcrowding in the standing area especially big games. Not uncommon for guys to be standing at our ‘seats’ , they get told and they beat it to another position.
We don’t do ourselves many favours …
Boasting about trying / failing to get into Firhill through alcohol incapacity.
Too blootered to remember any of the game in Seville.
And we want to tell the world.
No wonder the future is passing us by.
PB,
how do they get in to the rea, is that stewarding of the entry points and ticket checks not working then ?
you felt unsafe at anytime ?
SS
To be fair the stewards are being more observant but they still get in.
Madmitch
Get a grip, that was a story over 40 years ago, Jesus😕
Yeti @ 2.0
Safe standing is low density standing.
Our crowd capacity does not go up for games that allow safe stading.
We seemingly have 2,900 rail seats which allow safe standing.
They replaced the same number of old school seats that FMcC put in.
Safe standing at the same density as the original seating stands out like a sore thumb to someone that grew up with terracing — you can see the crowd standing as individuals.
Old school football economics — one seated supporter takes up the space given to two standing supporters.
Safe standing — one seated supporter = 1 standing supporter.
I DONT CARE
PPB @ 2.59
We have all done it just a case that most try to learn and move on.
My faux pas have all been Egg Chasing related — never drink at the football.
Either too young or too old — 17 years of playing amateur sport limited my fitba opps.
CFC Da mode coming on strong today .
JR is currently getting used to Haribo cider / IKEA cider.
I fear he will have T2 Diabetes before his time.
Paris is an overrated, expensive shithole, wouldn’t go back
I sit in the main stand at the end across from the standing sections. In the last game of the season there was not an aisle to be seen it was vastly overcrowded and there were no seats empty in the section, so, they must have come from other sections of the ground, por cierto
Yeti @ 3.05
What is it with property that it attracts a certain type of useless / non thinking numpty?
THE EXILED TIM on 30TH MAY 2022 3:07 PM
“Paris is an overrated, expensive shithole, wouldn’t go back”
Went for the first time when we played PSG, big Pierre missed a great chance right at the end. That time we had a ball, loved it. When back with my missus about 5 years ago, vastly overpriced and overrated, and it was packed, bit like the standing section :)), so massive queues, didn’t enjoy it at all, poe cierto
Bobby Murdoch as a boy
https://twitter.com/CollowWillie/status/1531222472372133888?t=93qjfuBttMLj1MGpl3v52Q&s=19
HH
PC- i was at that game ,and a load of us were railroaded to the main stand, even though we had tickets for the Celtic section of the ground
Just voted-now 17%
PC
Last time I was there was about 15 years ago, glass of beer and glass of cheap wine, 12 efin euros, needless to say only one drink in the bar, it was the supermarket after that >:)
Couldn’t believe the amount of pickpockets around either, the polis weren’t giving a toss.
THE EXILED TIM on 30TH MAY 2022 3:07 PM
Paris is an overrated, expensive shithole, wouldn’t go back
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TET,
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Ye have missed yer calling Bjoy – A second career in travel writing awaits!
:)
HH
..Bhoy….
Mad Mitch,
We are amongst friends.
We are coversing about what we have done in the past. Factual tales about going to the football.
No boasting, no pontificating , just reality.
If you have never participated in any high jinks going to the footie, I feel sad and sorry for you .
You have missed out on so much.
Cheers and HH.
That awkward moment at the end when you left the Jungle at pace with both feet off the ground.
OFFS CSC
BOURNESOUPRECIPE, aye I remember. 🤣🤣
Geeza lift mister was the free entry back in the day at Parkhead.
Under the fence from the allotments at Cathkin.
Over the wall at hamdump
BSR
Or you floated out on a sea of P
🤣🤣
What a shame the Europa Cup final wasn’t held in Paris.
GP @ 3.56
I think that is the issue — people using football as a platform for their selfish / attention seeking / ego tripping youthful stupidity.
Plenty of “high jinks” on my part in a past long ago — just a case that it wasn’t a performance in front of a crowd who had other things on their mind.
Plenty seem to use going to the football as their right of passage into some sort of adulthood — just a case that their actions around the event are the important thing not the football on the pitch which then brings them into conflict with the real world.
We all do it in one form or another just a case that some never grow up.
I remember the game in Paris against PSG. Big Pierre was way ahead of time by being blinded by the lights as he missed an absolute sitter.
Anyway, we ended up pushing a broken down police car in exchange for a lift to an all night boozer . ( Great story for the pub )
Maybe the scouse wit and humour is fading.
HH.
dearie me, he really does hate young people.
Ole Rod Stewart did a song about the Jungle p*sh…… Hot Legs
Hotlegs a bit Neanderthal man more than 10cc running down your legs 😜
Sir Rod is on tv for the jubillee
three cheeers for the queen
hurrah
Oh ffs hahahaha 😆
BSR@4:03
Yes a too frequent event in the old days when attendance was 25,000, aye right😵
I remember when we played at Benfica coming down the stairwell without my feet touching the ground, now that was really scary
In fact if I remember correctly, there was about 5,000 bhoys in their top tier and one stairwell😕😱
Coming out of the Celtic end at the old hampdump was scary as you approached the top of the stairs.
Gene, it was scary enough when we scored a goal. I ended up on the huns bench at the 1971 final. I’m still celebrating title win, Scottish Cup win by the ladies, Port Vale being promoted and probably the lavvie Cup for the huns. It’s a hectic life I tell ye. 👍
They demolished that top tier at the Celtic end eventually cutting the capacity, they also put a roof, funnily enough over the Rainjurz end about 20 years previously. Generations of Celtic supporters had getting soaked in the rain or being choked in ashen dust down to an art form by the time modern Scotland evolved.
Brrb
Somebody’s got to do it 🤭