King: if we lose the tax case then we probably gained some competitive advantage

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Newco chairman, Dave King, this evening issued a remarkable statement.  Not for the first time he referenced Celtic, but on this occasion, he became the first person inside the game to put the Stripping of Titles Rangers won during their EBT and DOS years on the table.

His statement also blankly contradicted an earlier statement he made, when he asserted, “I follow the logic of the argument that if we lose the tax case then we probably gained some competitive advantage.”

With the tax case lost, and many fair-minded agreeing with his earlier sentiment and calling for titles to be stripped, however, today King said:

“Whether the scheme was in place or not, or whether it survived tax scrutiny or not, made no difference whatsoever to the playing squad of the Club during that period and hence had no impact on the performance on the pitch.”

That’s:

“If we lose the tax case then we probably gained some competitive advantage.”
Followed by:

“Had no impact on the performance on the pitch.”

“Competitive advantage.”

“No impact on the performance.”

In 2012 he even issued an apology and suggested “commercial reparation to the other clubs” was in order.

“Reparation” because “if we lose the tax case” we “gained some competitive advantage”.

In five years he moved from saying Rangers gained a competitive advantage because of the illegal EBT use, and commercial reparations to other clubs was due, to denying any wrongdoing whatsoever.

He should also have read the Celtic statement more carefully.  King today said Celtic, “have attempted to influence the footballing authorities to alter its historic football honours”.

Celtic’s statement called merely for a review, “We are sure now that the footballing authorities in Scotland will wish to review this matter. Celtic awaits the outcome of their review.”

The altering of football honours issue was not put on the table by our club – you can thank Dave King for that thought provoking notion.

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  1. Parkheadcumsalford

     

     

    Only saw Charlie G a handful of times myself but I mind the old man tut tutting – possibly a euphemisn there! – one day when Charlie got a bit of stick from a few folk around us for a misplaced pass This was during the 67/8 run in when Charlie came in for Bertie in the run in and pulled the strings in the team that won 16 games on the bounce. My dad was also a great fan of Pat Crerand – as was my uncle Alex who is still with us.

     

     

    My dad’s last gane turned out to be the famous semi final v Hearts which was Paul McStay’s best display both my dad and I thought. Miss my dad for so many reasons but that he never saw Henrik, Naka and Lubo are three of them. All my dad’s kind of player.

     

     

    SDE

     

     

    Jimbo67

  2. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Adi- The huns and Level 5 , are trying to make it a huns v Celtic issue, if you read the crap from King and the Oldco group, bless them.We know The Lying King is going for lowest common denominator in this anti Catholic country.Fans like Aberdeen, are seeing the bigger picture, and we need to engage with them and others IMO HH

  3. clogher celt on

    Dave King and his fellow Ibrox conspirators are predictably spreading a mantra of denial.

     

    Ranger’s difficulties are now Celtic’s fault. Anything to divert attention and ‘buy time’ before the penny drops. They are a toxic brand and they have brought disgrace to Scottish football.

     

     

    The WATP mentality often reminds me of the hated Oliver Cromwell and perhaps the deceased Oldco now face a similar fate to Cromwell.

     

     

    Oliver Cromwell was born in Huntington, Cambridge on April 25, 1599.

     

     

    He died on Friday, September 3, 1658.

     

     

    He was executed January 30, 1661…two and a half years later!!

     

     

    For Cromwell’s crimes of High Treason and Regicide his remains were exhumed and he was posthumously killed. The date of the execution was chosen as it was the anniversary of King Charles I own death, 12 years earlier.

     

     

    Sparing CQNers the gory details, perhaps the current public humiliation of the corpse of Rangers bears uncanny similarities to the posthumous execution of Cromwell.

     

     

    There is no escaping Karma and it must be a painful time for the Rangers Supporters who are seeing their Dis-Honours ; gradually reduced to public humiliation and fraud.

     

     

    Every “achievement” of Oldco under Murray is now a source of embarrassment to the football authorities.

     

     

    The Tax Criminal is still ensconced in the beseiged bunker at Ibrox, he is a loose canon. HMRC’s Football Compliance Unit isn’t going away.

     

     

    There must be plenty of sleepless nights among the Mandarins of Scottish football at the moment.

     

     

    We’ve had a great weekend here with the Celts over. Five of my son’s mates made the trip from Glasgow, an expensive trip and the lads are a credit to their families.

     

     

    Our generation has the proof my father’s people never had. They were scoffed at and labelled ‘Paranoid’. My own father died in 1997 after enduring ‘Rangers/Murray’s’ Nine in a Row, from his budgeted for Season Ticket.

     

     

    For their benefit and the generations to follow and out of respect to the generations before we can’t allow the cheats to bury this and ‘move-on’.

     

     

    Fair play to all involved.

     

     

    HH

  4. Ray Winstone's Big Disembodied Heid on

    Stories are beginning to emerge that Porto are seeking to take action re their losing a last 16 place in the 2005/6 Champions League to a hun team that was loaded with improperly registered players.

     

     

    If this is true then a tsunami of shit is coming which the SMSM and the Scottish football authrities won’t be able to ignore.

  5. Banda bing and all,

     

     

    Got 3 adults and 1 child first class return for €172 about 3 hours journey, guys at hotel saying about €10 from city to stadium

     

     

    Think there a bar called jinkys in albuferia so will catch NI Huns game there on Friday

     

     

    Bada,

     

     

    Apologies for late reply been out in the midday sun and a good few super boks

     

     

    HH

  6. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    I hope that Galway win the All-Ireland hurling championship, anybody but Dublin to win the football championship.

     

     

    The hurling is going to be phenomenal with Waterford, Galway, Tipperary and Cork all in with a shout.

     

     

    Dublin were annihilated by Tipperary today, although you won’t read about that hear on DublinQuickNews.

     

     

    Also having watched every Celtic goal of last season, wee Calum McGregor’s goal against the zomboids at Hampden is most probably the best.

     

     

    HH.

  7. Scaneil-Bada

     

    Jeez I want yous so, so much to be right, but………..

     

    Think of all the times they have in the past few years been bang to rights and the courts have let them off, this is courts now, and we are expecting the sfa to do the right thing.

     

    Money will out at the end of the day, supporters are expendable, imo they would rather kill the game here than punish the huns.

  8. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Toor- i love Albufiera, i know Michael who owns it , a top man, tell him the big guy from the close next door in Queenslie was asking for him, going over in September,the singer at night knows the score

  9. GreeninbingleyinOslo on

    IMO, a judicial enquiry isn’t needed.

     

     

    They have just been found guilty by the highest court in the country of cheating football, and every taxpayer in the land, by operating an unlawful tax avoidance scam for more than a decade which, in the words of the former Chairman presiding over it, “allowed us to buy players we couldn’t otherwise afford.”.

     

     

    And they lied about it. And continue to do so.

     

     

    The facts are there already, agreed, indisputable; the bullet’s in the gun.

     

     

    All we need now is someone to pull the trigger.

     

     

    ————–

     

     

    I hope Stuart Armstrong stays, and I am sure that he will.

     

     

    When a man of the calibre of Brendan comes out and says that you would benefit from a couple more years at CP before going south, you’d be a fool not to listen.

     

     

    And I don’t think SA’s a fool.

  10. Lennybhoy on 9th July 2017 5:51 pm

     

     

    was great to meet up

     

     

    tell Maureen “this is what its like to be CQN” ;-))

     

     

    was lovely to meet her .

     

     

    HH

  11. Jimbo67,

     

     

    Pat Crerand was one of my first favourites. One of the finest passers of the ball to grace Celtic Park. He, Bobby Evans and Dunky Mackay were my earliest heroes.

  12. Celtic sign Manchester City midfielder starlet Olivier Ntcham in £7m deal – ? French Mag

  13. Bada,

     

     

    Will do.

     

     

    Great place and plenty of good guys here, no doubt a few of the others but they must lying low for some reason

  14. My earliest heroes were Bobby Evans, Bertie Peacock, Bobby Collins, Willie Fernie, James Walsh and Paddy Crerand, and Bertie Auld.

  15. A big Hail

     

    Hail

     

    To the *Rangers 2012 fan and his family who just gave my daughter his nine unused i tickets for the. Fairground in Alicante.

     

    A difference of

     

    Opinion as to facts but a real gent

  16. kevinlasvegas on

    Paddy has until Friday to tell us if he is staying.

     

     

    Hopefully we will see him at the Lyon game. :)

     

     

    KLV

  17. What is the Stars on

    16 Roads

     

    Dublin quick news here.

     

    Tipperary with the help of some pretty biased officiating squeezed past an inexperienced under 14 Dublin side. The youthful dubs played some truly inspiring hurling and were unlucky to lose by a point scored in injury time by Slasher MacSlasherface who (Had he not been the son of the ref, Bias MacBiasface) would have been sent off in the first half for GBH against the Dublin forward Silky Skilled Boy Wonder (aged 12).

     

    Up the Dubs

  18. A wee bit info required if anyone has advice, thinking about going to Lanzarote for a week early October , always went to Tenerife when in the Canaries, which resort etc would be helpful and whether to go BB SC or HB. For a couple maybe 1 grand daughter. Thanks in advance

  19. Cato the Elder, yes. Surprisingly I’m preparing a press release on the Second Punic War; yes, I know, a couple of thousand years late, but it’s for a scientific conference next month. That’s the thing about Punic Wars, you wait a couple of thousand years and then 3 show up at once.

  20. The thing is, sadly…..

     

    If you have already paid for….

     

    your season ticket, in all innocence….

     

    you have very likely, strengthened….

     

    the PLC’s hand to, brass it out in silence…

     

    after all, the PLC are Champions League ostriches….

     

    if, fans start to boycott in protest….

     

    no action will be forced from the PLC….

     

    if, the PLC have already banked the income….

     

    for, 53,000 season tickets, well, you can be sure….

     

    that the, Confidentiality Clause PLC, will be golfing….

     

    in Barbados, whilst, Celtic’s cheated supporters…

     

    will watch on, victims of their own innocence…

     

    as the Establishment find their biggest carpet….

     

    since the sacking of Manchester 2008 and, do….

     

    what their best at, sweeping hun scandals….

     

    under the big Orange / Masonic / Satanic carpet…

     

    looks like the PLC had planned ahead…..

     

    when they brought in Mr Rodgers…..

     

    the PLC must be thanking their God that….

     

    the Uppitty Fenian Rebel, Mr Neil Francis Lennon….

     

    izny still in house at Celtic Park, who knows…..

     

    as the weeks unfold, and with NFL, no longer on the….

     

    Celtic Park Confidentiality Clause payroll….

     

    the, complicity silent PLC, might just find themselves…..

     

    being outed !?!?!?

     

    Interesting times ahead.

     

    Anyway,……

     

    If, Stuart Armstrong wants to go, thank him…..

     

    then, bring in the new, dynamic, tireless, fenian, workhorse…

     

    John McGinn, who has the hallmarks of a young Ray Houghton.

     

    Troll-diers are we – Sons Of The JUNGLE – CSC

     

    Anyway,…..

     

    …..off-oot.

  21. Parkheadcumsalford

     

     

    Dunky McKay was genuinely before my time ( as was the more obviously legendary Bobby Evans) but only ever heard good things of him- an old timer i travelled to Moenchangladbach with last year rated him as highly as Danny McGrain in fact. The best Celtic player to win nothing with us?

     

     

    Ron Bacardi

     

     

    James Walsh – Jimmy as I have always heard him referred. A not very famous name thrse days but well thought of in my extended family.

     

     

    Jimbo67

  22. DESSYBHOY

     

    Been to Lanzarote many times. We always go to Puerto Del Carmen. SC is our preferred choice of board as there are many excellent restaurants and cafes during the day. Beach much nicer than Tenerife. Loads of good entertainment at night where they love kids. Loads of Irish bars too. Old town can be a bit hilly. Weather will be hot early Oct, take good sunscreen. HH. Spinnakers and Bodran bar good.

  23. As part of the black arts of media and message management

     

    our opponents in scoddland will be facilitated…………. to pit oooot……….

     

    ………….extravagant stories about other notable teams from foreign parts

     

    apparently joining the good cause of Celtica…………….

     

    Perhaps with the objective of dashing hopes and ridiculing the contribution of citizen journalism.

     

     

    If there is verifiable, credible, ‘fishal proof of Porto’s story – let’s be hearin’ ye.

  24. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Thomthetim., Jimbo , Ron Bacardi and Parkheadcumsalford , thanks for your posts about your own or father’s favourite players . They were all very enjoyable reads.

     

     

    Danny McGrain is my all time favourite Celt but I am lucky to have seen so many fantastic players for us in my time as a Celtic supporter that I could never decide who would get my best Celtic 11 of players I have seen.

  25. Magnificentseven on

    dessybhoy on 9th July 2017 8:50 pm

     

    A wee bit info required if anyone has advice, thinking about going to Lanzarote for a week early October , always went to Tenerife when in the Canaries, which resort etc would be helpful and whether to go BB SC or HB. For a couple maybe 1 grand daughter. Thanks in advance

     

     

    Puerto Del Carmen will be the busiest at that time of year, and if you go to the harbour end it will not be too crazy, do not go to the main strip if you have your grand daughter with you. We always go to a Villa/SC as there are loads of restaurants in that area. The other option is Playa Blanca which is more family oriented but maybe a bit quieter, although if it’s school holiday week it should be busy enough

  26. Looks as if it is true……………………..

     

     

    Celtic have completed the signing of Manchester City midfielder Olivier Ntcham for a fee of £7million, France Football journalist Nabil Djellit reports tonight.

     

     

    Ntcham’s move to Glasgow has happened quickly, little more than a day after various newspapers reported that Brendan Rodgers wanted the French youth international, who has spent the last two years on loan at Genoa.

     

     

    The 21-year-old was spotted arriving in Glasgow yesterday and underwent a medical, with only an official announcement missing.

     

     

    The fee has been reported to be £4million, but the word from Nabil Djellit is that it is a £7million deal, which would be quite a figure for a player who has not gotten anywhere near City’s first team. It’s possible that this could be £4million up-front with add-ons, which would link the two reported fees together.

     

     

    Nabil Djellit‏Verified account @Nabil_djellit

     

     

    Info : c’est fait pour Oliver #Ntcham. Il rejoint le #Celtic pour 7 millions de pounds. 21 ans, milieu prometteur. A suivre…

  27. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Cowiebhoy, I agree re the non mention of the wee tax case with regard the Discounted Option Scheme payments made to De Boer , Flo and Craig Moore, by the media.

     

     

    The wee tax case is just as importantbas the big tax case, probably more important , as the now defunct club were so guilty even their QC told them there was no way they could challenge the evidence.

     

     

    Its a pity HMRC do not make any public statements about the non payment so far of the wee tax case bill and resultant penaltiesto highlight what was Rangers and Murray’s dodgy dealings .

  28. Park Road 67 on

    DESSYBHOY

     

    Puerto Del Carmen is superb and as Barney67 said there are great restaurants and bars , the Old Town is great

  29. Apricale.

     

     

    I am just geateful I remembered it was an N not a B in Punic.

     

     

    Coat got

     

     

    SDE

     

     

    Jimbo67

  30. Celticfan1961 on

    Recent Daily rectum main football stories,

     

     

    New defender scores a wonderful overhead kick during beach vollyball.

     

     

    Paul Gascoign scores in Newcastle old crocs game.

     

     

    Keep the huns buying the rag.