I don’t get the flares thing. It’s not a part of my going-to-see-Celtic tradition. But if it was my thing, I’d have the courage of my convictions, I wouldn’t hide the fact.
There are consequences of bringing flares to football games, always has been. By not having the courage to openly ignite them, those consequences are not personalised to the individuals who regard this as an integral part of what they do at a football game, they are visited upon everyone in the vicinity, as well as the club.
The problem with flares at Celtic games is those who bring them hide the fact – as they clearly know there are consequences, and presumably aren’t too interested in taking responsibility for them. ‘Keen on flares, not keen enough to stand up for them’, is why the issue persists.
I get the attraction to bright, shiny, things, but this isn’t a campaign to bring the vote to disenfranchised people against a force who will execute the offender on sight. It’s about bringing a flare to a football game. If it’s so important, do it openly. If you think Health and Safety are simply wrong, find the evidence and use it in court. Have the courage to change something. I know lots of Celtic fans who have had the courage to put their name to something they believed in, in recent years. It’s seldom easy, but it has been done.
But in the years of this debate no one has ever pointed to evidence that igniting flares in a football ground is a clever thing to do. It’s just a ‘look at me’ exercise, ‘But don’t look at my face’, of course.
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Episode 5 of ‘A Celtic State of Mind’ finds Paul John Dykes and Kevin Graham discussing a variety of topical subjects concerning Celtic Football Club, including:
* What now for the Green Brigade?
* Dedryck Boyata – Are reinforcements on route?
* Virgil van Dijk – The windfall cometh;
* Emilio Izaguirre – Moving on.
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MACLAY
Totally agree!
Some people need to get a life!
MACJAY, obviously.
OWEN on 22ND JULY 2017 10:25 PM
Catching up,stand out post Owen.hh
Good to hear Brendan talking about ways to play Moussa and Griff together.
A lot of goals there,Sinclair,Dembele,Griffiths.
Does anyone else think Butch Harmon is a condescending fann*?
TURKEYBHOY
You are on the wrong Blog surely, talking about Celtic and football!
:-(
We are still on it, the Ultra apologists can spout all the spin they like, they make out it’s only them, shockaroony eh?
https://videocelts.com/2017/07/blogs/latest-news/scottish-football-fans-protest-goes-mainstream/
Macjay,
So you have now actually read the statement.
Why after the Hearts game if the Safety Cert was at such risk didn’t Peter take time to meet with the GB?
Like it or loathe it the Plc have used the GB and this should have been sorted out one way or another over the close season. ‘Peter’ has screwed this up.
This is an easy nut to crack and you are right to be frustrated with ‘Peter’.
If he has messed this up. What faith have you with his stewardship of the SPFL/SFA debacle?
TD67,
I’m surprised to see you in agreement with James Forrest :)
HH & Till Later
Once again,I my must mention how bad the scum were yesterday.The Froggies were falling asleep.1st gear,the whole match.Blatant red card for Dorrans ignored by Ref.The wee Frog was spitting feathers as he had to go off.
No tactics,no style.Kenny Miller still looking their best player.Worse than last year.As I said yesterday,fill your boots on us hammering them when we meet.
The crowd yesterday would barely cover their costs.
PHILBHOY on 23RD JULY 2017 11:11 AM
Does anyone else think Butch Harmon is a condescending fann*?
He is probably one of the best golfing coaches in the history of the game, if knowing what your talking about makes you condescending, then I would have to agree with you, yes,
But no he is far from that, he is raved about by everyone who was under his roof of professional golfers, so, NO. IMO.
CHAIRBHOY 1048
Waterreus was told when he queried the payment method,that’s the deal or no deal.
And his agent got it in writing.
Players might not be top of the class,but their agents usually are. I’d be surprised if he wasn’t the only agent to query the arrangement. It stunk the house out from Day One.
PHILBHOY on 23RD JULY 2017 11:12 AM
TURKEYBHOY
You are on the wrong Blog surely, talking about Celtic and football!
Yep,thats why in my next post I left football altogether,and spoke about the Hun performance yesterday.
Smiley.
Turkeybhoy – are you sure? I thought it was a barn-storming victory-draw against odds-on Champions League faves Marseilles.
All thanks to the youthful sprite of Miller, Kranky, and Bruno Old-ves. Masterminded by Pedro Mourinho in front of a crowd of 50,000 with thousands locked out
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 23RD JULY 2017 11:19 AM
CHAIRBHOY 1048,
Have thought this a long time.When the due payments fall through the letterboxes,I am sure many players will be taking legal action against whoever told them it was Kosher.
ITALIABHOY on 23RD JULY 2017 11:20 AM
Turkeybhoy – are you sure? I thought it was a barn-storming victory-draw against odds-on Champions League faves Marseilles.
All thanks to the youthful sprite of Miller, Kranky, and Bruno Old-ves. Masterminded by Pedro Mourinho in front of a crowd of 50,000 with thousands locked out
Honestly,they were dire.One shot,the goal,a belter of a free kick,I have to say,in 90 minutes.The Frogs looked half asleep.Content to just knock it about to each other ,like pre game warm up.
Very funny.
CLOGHER CELT on 23RD JULY 2017 11:15 AM
TD67,
I’m surprised to see you in agreement with James Forrest :)
HH & Till Later
Not as surprised as I was last night when the Ultra whatabouterie turned on him, that was my point, in fact I disagreed with JF post before that, actually I never read it and told him that in a mannerly way, not like thems last night, wooft! They where over him like a pack of wolfs, but as I said he can hold his own corner and he did, and good for him, JF knows i’v been critical to some of his posts, but I don’t verbally assassinate the guy, he has his opinion, like others, as I have mine, no big deal.
CLOGHER CELT on 23RD JULY 2017 11:14 AM
” Why after the Hearts game if the Safety Cert was at such risk didn’t Peter take time to meet with the GB?”
You seriously think that the Celtic CEO should lower himself and demean his position by meeting with these serial offenders whose actions have caused Celtic such significant problems with Uefa ?
Not to mention the angst they have caused amongst our supporters .
You say Peter has ” screwed this up” .
His job is the creation of a successful football team. He doesn`t need this continuing ongoing distraction caused by a political subgroup of entryist troublemakers.
Incidentally .
The Celtic Trust .
The perennial supporters of , and I suspect mentors of , the GB.
” Oh it`s all gone quiet over there.”
Pluck the thorn now , Peter .
Hi Chairbhoy,
What were Rangers innocent of? Lol re read its context and thought NUHHHIN!
Conceived and integrated into their
shenanigans of corporate policy from the second they signed.
I wonder what notification and Knowledge the players union had of
misregistered players?what was their copy in on?
HH
Morning Celts
TD67
Get this, i agree with you:)
JF comes on and never ducks it, i dont agree with everything he says either, but he gives as good as he gets.
For me, and you might not believe this, id rather we could all pull together on this, rather than be arguing.
HH
STARRY PLOUGH @ 11:06 AM,
“Soon there will be no place for the guilty to hide and the insane warbling of Dungcaster and Regan will be untenable..
Duped Mr Murray yes you did a lot of your people were duped..”
Yes, the fact is Rangers malfeasance is hitting them from all angles, those who tried to cover up for them are just as guilty if not more (they had a duty to regulate and govern).
This wasn’t victimless crime and more and more of the victims are seeing what type of characters they were dealing with.
I’m sure going back a few years the Players were told it would be in their best interests to stay stum…
Not all players get cushy TV jobs or decent paying Coaching roles, so I’m sure if some have saved/invested wisely while they were earning the big bucks they won’t want their nest egg/retirement fund raided by the exchequer.
Of course those who haven’t been so prudent could be ruined.
It’s take responsibility time for SDM and those that aided and abetted him…
Mon the REVIEW
Hail Hail
TONYDONNELLY. 1113
“save the Scottish game from those that want it to have the credibility of WWF.”
I’m all for organisations such as the WWF,they do a marvellous job. Maybe the author of that piece might explain his grievances against it.
TONY
He may well be a great golf coach but as a golf commentator he does my head in.
Examples –
Talking about Thomas Pieters on the first tee, he says great swing and perfect tee shot……………his ba’ ended up in the rough!
If anyone misses a putt he says…….if he hits it it’s in.
WTF does that mean? He actually hit it and missed.
Give me Andy Coltart or Di Doughrty anytime!
C’MON THE RORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
C’MON THE CELTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TD67,
Who are the ‘Ultra whatabouterie’ ?
Are they another subversive group in Sect 111?
A right old mess this GB business is. You’ll need to lead the singing of Grace from now on, you always loved the GB version?
I hope the atmosphere doesn’t die a death without the GB. It should be ok with 50k SBs. It’s hard to get around how big a feck up this is before Euro Qualifiers etc.
Hopefully the Plc will as James Forrest said about the the GB use ‘a surgical strike’ against the SFA/SPFL etc.
I don’t like the term ‘surgical strike’ used against Tims.
HH & Mass
Macjay
Id say you need a psychological assessment pronto.
My view, is that your problem could be to do with the nature of your ‘Authoritarian Personality’.
Prejudice seems to be the driving force.
Your fantasy of superiority is merely a symptom.
We can discuss this in detail later if you like, i can help, seriously.
HH
BMCUWPs,
Maybe the World Wildlife Fund is apt for the SFA/SPFL cartel?
WWECSC
What a circus you got to love sir Craig.
https://videocelts.com/2017/07/blogs/latest-news/whyte-companies-make-their-move/
Anti-Green Brigade hysteria well over the top. The GB did make a mistake with the banner ,I imagine they were thinking the offending flags were ambiguous enough to not be punished.
A huge turnout for a nothing game against Linfield showed there was a deep desire among the whole Celtic support to hammer the Belfast bigots by a cricket score. The rebel songs were sung with gusto by most of the crowd (around me anyway). Only a mixture of luck and sloppy finishing prevented the goal tally going into double figures. The GB arent hooligans like followers of Ajax ,Man U etc. Leicester City fans rioting in Madrid .
Celtic supporters including the GB are choirboys in comparison to many others. Uefa know this. The sanctions are a routine slap on the wrist.
I don’t like the term ‘surgical strike’ used against Tims.
It doesn’t make nice reading, but the again neither did the Ultras statement.
Fire with Fire?
BMCUW @ 11:19 AM & TURKEYBHOY @ 11:23 AM,
Yes, this could turn into a real mess (even more so).
I’m sure these guys are taking advice, you could have a case of BDO suing the Recipients and the Recipients Counter Suing Rangers 2012.
Much more interesting is Doncaster’s assertion that the OldCo’s non-disclosure fine was a Football debt and therefore NewCo’s and they paid it.
Surely the Players salaries are Footballing debts… be interesting to have some sort of class action against The Rangers FC Ltd;)
AN TEARMANN @ 11:33 AM,
Exactly, I wonder if anyone has a copy of the side letters that were supposed to indemnify the EBT Recipients?
It’s a long time since I’ve read them…
Hail Hail
Celtic supporters including the GB are choirboys in comparison to many others. Uefa know this. The sanctions are a routine slap on the wrist.
Sorry, more whatabouterie, the Ultras have made ten mistakes that’s cost my club money, money from my season ticket, even a five year old child know when it wrong to do something, and doesent have to be told TEN times.
A couple of people have referenced my use of the term “surgical strike” in relation to club action against the Green Brigade.
Poor choice of words; let me rephrase it.
A course of action that does not impact on people who aren’t involved in any of the displays/offences.
Apologies for anyone offended by that particular phrase.
Time to move on from the GB/PLC shenanigans and back to the big story in Scottish football for me.
Have the SFA/SPFL made any statement regarding stripping titles, or at least holding a review into events from 2000 to 2011, and before this?
Has any club other than Celtic even made an official statement?
I hear Milne has done an interview, a personal one or one representing Aberdeen officially?
Or was it a relaxed interview with him pictured wearing a cardigan?
Also good to hear BR talking about playing Griff. and Moussa together.
I remember an old site I posted on – God forgive me it was tied to a uni course I did- that if you mentioned anything about Jews (and I don’t mean anything particularly negative) then there would be a raft of posters on making comments. On here it seems to be the words Green Brigade…
Question was that £250,000 fine to oldco by Nimmo ever paid? I don’t recall it?
A LIGHT INSANITY on 23RD JULY 2017 12:01 PM
I remember an old site I posted on – God forgive me it was tied to a uni course I did- that if you mentioned anything about Jews (and I don’t mean anything particularly negative) then there would be a raft of posters on making comments. On here it seems to be the words Green Brigade…
This is rather extreme and wayyyyy out of order mate, you need to calm down pal and take a good look at what you just posted there? Shocking.
A light insanity
Dear Sir, i am outraged by your suggestion that the perma-rage pensioners club of CQN, are outraged by the very mention of those ruffians the GB, aaaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhh.
Yours Sincerely
General Franco aka Sir Oswald Esq.
Room 101
Barkingmadshire
Toy Town.
Which part?