You can train to be a football player for years, hone your skills and work on your fitness, but there are situations you can never prepare for until you are in the spotlight. Yesterday Mark Wilson had to field questions about his team-mates’ performance and his manager’s position, after another abject performance which drew criticisms from Neil Lennon towards the players.
Mark gave a textbook response to the BBC, “I don’t like slagging my team-mates off but we have to do better.
“Football is a result-driven game but we don’t want that [Neil Lennon sacked]. We are firmly behind the manager and we love working with him and the coaching staff.”
We should be in no doubt that harsh words are being spoken in the dressing room and team spirit must be awful, but the outside world need to see stoic unity.
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Fritzong, as a theory I think we simply had a momentum born of all the factors on the field and off the field last season which allowed Lennon’s coaching team to achieve more than it probably should have… Factors such as the eagerness of good new players to do well in a debut season, and the team spirit engendered by the off the field hate of Lenny.
This year I think reality’s come home to roost.
sean bhoy69 neil lennons finished be it tomorrow or the end of the season he is gone, and for mark hughes and steve mcclaren no comment.
Bada Bing
Yes mate questions have to be asked.
serge
Read my previous post again mate.
THE EXILED TIM
The voice of reason mate.
Always Celtic
Hail Hail
goldstar10 says:
30 October, 2011 at 20:45
A really good example of looking at one player’s underperformance and trying to see the alternatives – are there any ? and Hooper is just one example. Bloody hell it’s dire !
serge
You were a poster whose comments I enjoyed reading.
Let’s agree to scroll on past each other’s comments in future.
jmccormick
If PL’s remit was know, perhaps that question could be answered, I would imagine the financial strategy will be the main priority, and you never know, save the OF might just be part of the strategy, we will never know.
seanbhoy69
ok mate, sorry having to reply to 3 or 4 people at a time gets confusing
serge
TerryONeill Neil ah love yae says:
30 October, 2011 at 20:12
Our investment levels compared to StJ, Killie, and Hibs are off the richter scale, it is not simply new players.
The basic effort applied by our team, who are all paid handsomly for the priviledge is getting to levels which indicate the effective mgt of the team is heading down the pan.
Change will happen, the only question is when
backfromthepubcsc
timbhoy2
You are entitled to your opinion.
Serge
I don’t know what you want but a poll on here isn’t goin to solve or achieve anything,the roots of what you suggest fundamentally don’t contribute to togetherness,everybody needs to get behind the team so that that happens at games.
This conversation isn’t going anywhere like your idea of a poll.
And good Celtic men don’t go anywhere else,behave yersel.
Aidy The Tim, thanks for the response. I’ve just google’d and done that cheers. I might wait and re-post tomorrow.
Never realised i was walking into a massive ding-dong!!
setting free the bears says:
30 October, 2011 at 20:34
Get in line fella!
ElDiegoBhoy
I have no reason to scroll past your posts.
I enjoy your posts as i do all celtic fans. i will continue to read your posts and if i agree with you i will say so and also if i disagree i will no doubt say.
its a blog, its not personal i can assure you, failure brings out the worst in us all. just ask torontony how bad a loser i am ;-p
serge
Just read brth post from yesterday and it really hits home w hat they have done. It makes me sick ti think of them getting off scot free and swanning back in celtic must be against this at all levels. The game is truly bent the balls on the slates lock the door and thro away the key
Majorlypissedoffcsc
HH
Hi Paul67,
I had no intention of coming on here this weekend but I’ve just come across an e-mail from you from last July(!) regarding a post I submitted re my dad’s memories of the 7-1 game. So, belated thanks for taking the time to respond. It fair cheered me up!
While I’m on I suppose I may as well put in my tuppence with regards to yesterday.
Firstly, congratulations for managing to work the Hibs goalie into your match report. I doubt he’ll get too many namechecks this weekend!
Equally amazed at Mark Wilson’s comments re not slagging his teammates. I gave him 2 out of 10 yesterday. That was for putting his shirt and shorts on the right way. He did nothing else right!
Ponderous in possession and his attempts at “distribution” looked to me like an aimless punt up the park to an imaginary teammate who was playing some 10 yards ahead of Forrest and 10 yards to the left of Hooper.
To CQNers in general;
Lots of talk about bhoycotts etc. I’m not sure where I stand on that but I will say this;
I shelled out £29 on Friday for a brief. I was one of the 5,000 who were there to witness the referee bring the pitiful performance to an sorry end. Right now my view is that I won’t be back! I see nothing to inspire me to rush out and by tickets for any of the forthcoming games.
I had a ST for 21 years. I decided to take a year out and just pick and choose my games. I’m now in season 4 of that and my attendances are becoming more sporadic. This is the first time though that I don’t know when I’ll be back at CP. I would imagine that right now you can multiply that by 10,000.
This next transfer window is going to be absolutely crucial. I hope the Board realise this. As things stand, HMRC notwithstanding, the SPL has gone. A 10 deduction will almost certainly now not be enough for us to stop 4 in a row. Not with this inexperienced, inconsistent squad.
I’ll close by thanking all of you who have shed light on why we are failing. I was sick y’day at the thought that the squad were simply not playing for the manager. I’m at least grateful to accept that it’s more that they individually and collectively don’t have the strength of mind at this stage in their fledgling careers to cope with the expectation that comes with playing for Celtic – where every game is a cup final and therefore a must win.
The Seville squad had 8 or 9 players of genuine captain material. This squad has none.
Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, (Celtic Website) captain Mark Wilson was voted MOM!!!!
Mercifully, this was not announced over the Tannoy. Those of us who were sitting near the Hibbies had endured enough already!
To think that recently we were cursing the interruption of an international break. What would we give for one now!
Billy Bhoy
L & M
I always get behind the team. i asked for a poll because i am genuinely worried about the alarming amount of people who no longer go to the games.
you go into the saracen head or bairds before the game ok……and even there….you ask how many people are going to the game, i’ll quarantee you there is people who will say they are not going to bother.
serge
Cher Lloyd voted off the X Factor?
Setting free…I was at Holyrood and had Mr Lavelle for classics in 2nd and his missus for English down the road in 1st year. Same peeps?? HH>
Last season we dropped 22 points
We’ve dropped 13 so far this year
So we can only drop 9 more as I think 92 points will be sufficient for championship glory this year. Not impossible – though next weekend will be huge. We have to win every league game remaining in 2011 IMO.
However, I cannot see us winning next weekend as I think Lennys lost the dressing room, especially after his comments yesterday. Even Mark Wilson was a bit taken aback
HH
Sorry guys, but just about everything about our Club is annoying me these days which is why I’ve kept quiet. Taking refuge with the U-19s hasn’t helped – on the SPL site yesterday’s result was 5-1 to us but the Club site has it as 0-0. Why can’t we get this stuff right? Anyone know what the score was? Had meant to go but was unable. Man City next Monday shd be good.
L & M
*guarantee even
serge
serge
I would urge every Celtic supporter, where possible, to get along on Thusday night and next Sunday
and give the players and management all the encouragement they can.
Things are not great just now but we have to show unity and strength in numbers.
Celtic Football Club and it`s supporters are unique, We Have No Equal.
Bhoys, keep the faith. December is going to be a crucial month for them, 3 away games one at PH. They will stutter, believe me.
seanbhoy69 says:
30 October, 2011 at 20:39
we may disagree on Neil Lennon – but we are one on “only one team”
No matter where I am I need to see only one result _ Celtic
Example yesterday in the Apple store in Southampton _ I was on Celticquicknews
And for the record – that’s why we are passionate about what happens to us
Hail Hail forever
67ECW
jackie mac- the lack of options scares me witless, I have been watching Hooper closely, he has no sense of anticipation, is caught on his heels and is slow to react, yet he can pull off things of sheer beauty- his touch and goal at Easter Rd and his goal at Ibrox.
But it is not enough. Big Sammy did more in 8 mins yesterday than Gary did in the preceding 82.
Personally I like big Sammy but he will never be given an even break by the baying hoardes. Greece v Croatia, Sammy v Jelavic, nuff said. Sadly we will never see the real Sammy at CP.
Seanbhoy….Me and my 4 will be there. As always…C’mon the hoops. HH.
Billy Bhoy
Excellent post agree with every word, especially on Mark Wilson whose contribution was an indicator of the level to which we’ve plumbed.
If Mark Wilson was man of the match, then I was at a different game.
seanbhoy69
my favourite band are the music, their 3rd album is – strength in numbers. which will be the latest tattoo.
for your comment there i applaud. very well said.
serge
Yesterday, I took my youngest son to Paradise for the first time. His football knowledge is based upon playing the PS3 and being in his primary school lunchtime team. He just knows that his dad likes Celtic.
We watched the lads come off the coach outside the stadium. We had enjoyed a visit to a cafe in the Forge. Because I’m not a season ticket holder, as usual, the ticket office gave us crap seats, cause someone has to get them. We went in early for the promised pre match halloween entertainment. This amounted to Hoopy the Hound offering kids photograph opportunities just inside the turnstiles. For money.
Excluding fares, yesterday cost me £63 odds just to go into CP , buy a progamme and have
a half time snack with my wee boy. We were forced to sit right beside the Hibs fans – that will encourage kids to come back, of course – and listen to their ‘we are the peeple’ and ‘its a conspiracy’ crap. The team were not particularly good, as some may have noticed. We fell further behind the league leaders. Some people on here want to attack the manager and some players. Some people want to tell us how clever they are.
I remember my dad taking me to Parkhead for the first time. I remember a decent man at Ibrox who, when I went there secretly aged ten, and ended up in the wrong end, took care of me and told me off before putting me on a bus home, and i remember winning Celtic teams. Inhave nearly fifty years of Celtic memories. I can’t remember Celtic fans being as selfish as they are now. We dont have a right to win anything. We have to cheer the team on.
Yesterday, on my boy’s first visit, for most of the game, all we heard were Hibbees. The palyers were poor and the fans were the same. We all need to work together.
I dont care what happens elsewhere. If THEY do go bust, i suggest that they rename themselves Orangers. Probably apt. For us, lets get behind the team and manager.
Depressed as were last night after the game, our conversation drifted back to happier times and in particular, the Centenary season when, time after time, we won games against all odds and eventually won the double.
That season was encapsulated by the Scottish Cup Final against Dundee Utd. Kevin Gallagher was playing and he was tormenting our defence. So much so that until well into the second half, United deservedly led through his goal.
Then Celtic then snatched an equaliser, through McAvennie. With mere minutes remaining, most players seemed to be settling for extra time, but not big Roy Aitken. With a wave of his arms which seemed to say, “There’ll be no f****** extra time today” he drove his teamates forward and McAvennie scored the winner in the dying seconds.
The Celtic team that day included, apart from Aitken and McAvennie; Paul McStay, Tommy Burns. Mark McGhee, Joe Miller, Derek Whyte and Andy Walker – all lifelong Celtic supporters who knew what it meant to be wearing the hoops.
Oh, for a few more like them in the current side. For me it’s no coincidence that only James Forrest and Charlie Mulgrew, of the current bunch, never stop working, even when their own form is poor.
I no longer believe that Neil Lennon is the long term answer, but, in the short term, he could do no better than work his way through ALL the playing staff and saying”What team did you support as a boy”
I can tolerate an off form player, but I can’t tolerate players who really don’t give a damn and that’s what we’ve got at the moment.
Harryhoodsdug
Mr. Lavelle was at St. Maggie May’s in 1967 to 73( I think) when I left.
At the time, there were at least 3 Latin teachers trying to teach us something of that ancient language. All I remember is that Fossa means a ditch and I only remember that because Terry Biddlecombe rode The Fossa to a place finish in the Grand National round about that time.
That Mr. Lavelle was a strange droll character with a sadistic streak. He was not, by any means, the worst teacher in that school and I enjoyed my education, by and large.
And lets support the bhoys.
goldstar10 says:
30 October, 2011 at 21:03
Hoops got a kick in the heel after 2 mins yesterday (again) and then spent the whole game worrying about the defender coming through him , which leads to him consistently taking his eye of the ball and mis-controlling the whire round object.
Gary is being asked to drop short and link the play but it is not his game, he knows this, manager doesn’t , so there is a huffy player who cannot take the physical stick outside the box……….
….. just one example , of why on the football side we have faltered badly this year.
kipbeckonscfc
Rashers Tierney
It was 5:1 to the young Celts.
Top Corner posted some video footage of it earlier today but I cannot place the timing of that.
67 European Cup Winners
Hail Hail mate.
harryhoodsdugbitme
Celtic always.
Hail Hail.
Serge
Cheers amigo
Rashers Tierney- U-19’s won 5-1.
ElDiegoBhoy
Seriously dont take that comment the wrong way, trip to madagascar again tomorrow so wont be on for 8 weeks, just have to rely on torontony sending me the blog to my hotmail, so peace & back the club like you always do!! HH
serge
Hugo Z Hackenbush
and how will he react to james forrest when he replies Rangers??
Supporting a team does not make you a better player
attitude commitment ability and professional pride is lacking in spades at the moment
NeilLennon No1