In terms of pure logic, Ally McCoist was quite right to insist, “I can also assure every Rangers fan I will not be accepting any talk of stripping the club of titles. That is something we will never accept and everyone at the club shares this view.”
It is outrageous to put Sevco in the position of accepting Rangers are stripped of previous league titles while due process has not been carried out. The very fact that the SFA and SPL are negotiating with Sevco over this matter is reason enough for McCoist to issue a firm rebuttal. Quite simply, if the authorities are prepared to negotiate, their offer should be rejected until the last moment possible, at which point they will be meekly accepted.
The SFA and SPL must allow due process to take place and remove any need for Sevco to rubber-stamp a judgement on Rangers. It is wholly inappropriate to discuss or agree the consequences of a guilty verdict, or subsequent punishments (losing titles won illegally is not a punishment), until a verdict is recorded.
Due process, please, nothing more and nothing less. If Rangers didn’t illegally register players for over a decade neither they nor Sevco have anything to worry about.
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bournesouprecipe on 22 July, 2012 at 23:23 said:
They are 125/1 with Paddy Power to win the Champion’s League.
Maybe they are a better side than we are,but deep down i still believe that we would turn them over at a packed Celtic Park,in a CL game.
I mean,are they any better than Udinese? Are they on a different planet from Athletico?
Not trying to make excuses,but we took both those sides to the wire,with a injury depleted team,and there couldn’t have been anymore than 30,000 at both our home games against those quality outfits.
TET,
cheers i appreciate your reply,
i get fed up as there are plenty on here willing to have a go at the
board for the sake of it
Bliddy I-Pad
Not ET, PL’s management abilities.
PL = Boring property guy out of his depth trying to grow a football team.
Sixteen roads to Golgotha on 22 July, 2012 at 23:23 said:
hamiltontim on 22 July, 2012 at 23:11 said:
We are one of the best run clubs in Europe.
Stein started the ball rolling,but DD & PL also helped to put the huns to sleep,as they squandered millions of the Bank of Scotland’s money,just trying,in vein to hang onto our coat-tails.
And that,my friend,is fact.
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You could be right and I wouldn’t know, I’m not aware of how other clubs are run.
I’m glad that we took BQ’s advice and didn’t go down the EBT route, I”m glad that that we didn’t spend cash that we didn’t have and I’m glad that we aren’t spending fortunes on players who just aren’t worth the money.
I think we agree :-)
Bazzabhoy,
Couldn’t agree more…
TET – “Lenny is fodder, the sooner folks realise that the better, he is a yes man, that is a fact.”
I don’t think that a laptop loyal hack could write in worse terms about the manager of our club, but you’re quite happy to post that tonight.
You’re not related to Craig Burley, are you?!
T4
Boring property guy out of his depth trying to grow a football team…
16 RTG @ 23.32
Fair point but our August form in Europe has been shocking recently.
Consequently I have little confidence regarding our ability to turn over a limited but focused team of “winners” this early in the season.
If the clocks had went back then no issue but a rusty, unstable squad with known weaknesses and missing personnel then I am not so sure.
TET
Why does my post surprise you mate?
MadMitch @ 23 31,
were you asking for an update on yourself there? ;-))
Bazzabhoy’s right. Porto transact their business in exactly the same fashion he says Ajax do. Wanyama is not yet the finished article. In truth, he’s young and shows a lot of promise but at the moment, it’s only promise. If we got £6m/£7m for him now then that is good business. We could keep him for another year or two and run the risk of that ‘promise’ not materialising.
Who are the two that didn’t cut it, bazzabhoy?
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Boring property guy out of his depth trying to grow a football team…
Dear Mr John `Bomber’ Brown,
I have received your recent application for a bank account with the RBS and just need you to clarify a few points.
Under the section entitled `Sexual preference’ you have stated `other’ and `right haunded’. I’m led to believe that this is a form of self worship, can you please confirm?
Under the section entitled `assets’ you have stated `the big hoose, car park & wee hoose’. Can you show the deeds of ownership for the aforementioned properties?
Under the section entitled `dependants and their ages’ you have stated `ra peepul, 1690′. Can you confirm that this name and number is accurate?
Finally, you have been asked to provide two referees but you have only provided one, a Mr Hugh Dallas, can you please provide one other who can vouch for your financial liquidity for the last ten years?
Yours sincerely,
Hector
listen here Sally!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT18abJYkLU
All this talk on a centre half how many strikes on goal have we had these 4 pre season games not a lot,it’s a big strong centre forward that we need also mark janko of Porto would do for me
Tambien, in the shade of the palm trees, been reading a book “Franco’s Friends”
How british intelligence formented and supported the coup, and the bribed spanish military command during the war.
Sixteen roads to Golgotha
Not on the evidence of last night, we wouldn’t.
You’ve nothing to base that on apart from being a Celtic supporter.
MadMitch
This Tim will not be learning any hard lessons, I have lived through many hard times being a Celtic supporter, lived through the cheating, long before it became official, no lessons to be learned here mi amigo.
I know what I know, I give not a feck if you believe me or not, jst the way it is.
All I want is our club to get back to where I believe we belong, we are in a position to achieve this, believe it or not.
In my working life I have traveled the world, and where ever I have been there are Tims everywhere, all down to individual supporters, the club are way too lacking at trying to improve the clubs attraction.
I live in the mountains in rural Spain, without me, the locals would know feck all about our club, the media would and do not report anything about us, that is due to the lack of comms from the club, fact.
Sorry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT18abJYkLU
hamiltontim on 22 July, 2012 at 23:34 said:
Fair comment mate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J8muxBuU4U
has the worm turned
McCoist’s credibility was severely damaged by his demand in April to “out” the SFA’s independent Judiciary Panel (“Rangers supporters and the Scottish public deserve to know who these people are”) which had originally imposed the transfer embargo.
The SFA’s compliance officer, Vincent Lunny, has still to take him to task for that outburst – rendered all the more incomprehensible by the fact that Rangers officials were well aware of the identities of the panel members – and he is also likely to have his collar felt for his latest offering.
ewing grahame
Bazzabhoy
thats fair enough but it seems to me that the board prefer to do just enough and no more, to win the league. The case in point was the January window when we bought Flood for buttons, when it was obvious the goals had dried up and we needed a striker. Hindsights wonderful but I remember at the time saying that with Boyd not leaving the huns, it would be a turning point in the lg race. And so it proved, with the huns gaining automatic entry into the CL and picking up 12m.
I’m not saying blow 10-15m, but there’s a case for a new CH right now. If we cant afford 2-3m and or run with some debt then someones telling lies up there. PL knows we’ll win the lg by not spending another penny but there’s an 18m jackpot to be had if we give ourselves a better chance of winning it.
I’ll say it again, we could win 10 iar and not qualify once for the CL, and I would’nt see it as a great achievement. that would make us more like Linfield than Liverpool.
hh
Madmitch
You’ve not been on here for donkeys, or at least not that I’ve seen. I can only imagine that you’ve been in enforced exile as a result of flock migration or else you were flumoxed cos Celtic won the title.
Not for a second do I believe that you’re a hun however I am sceptical of your appearance the day after we lose heavily in a friendly.
Is there anything about the current set up at Celtic that would make you smile?
Every time we get beat, even in a friendly, all the negatives surface…..We are now entering a phase without the cheating barstewards…….and I, for one, am so grateful that we can, as a club, now concentrate exclusively on SPORT, and on developing a team under one of the greatest ever Celtic men, NEIL FRANCIS LENNON ………
What’s not to enjoy, win, lose or draw…………!!!!!
CELTIC ARE MORE THAN A CLUB, AND ‘WE ARE CELTIC SUPPORTERS’
ENJOY ……. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mic1888
Lookin for truth…?
Were you lookin for truth when our club was being blatantly cheated by referee performances past three years….Eh…? Did it once hit you what we had been up against..? Doubt it…it was “We need to be better than the refs..” through that winnit?
itsabouttim on 22 July, 2012 at 23:40 said:
I thought Cha was one of the worst players I’ve seen in a while. No positional sense what so ever. Tried his heart out though, bless, just wasn’t good enough.
Second would be Wilson, just don’t think the boys got it, however would love to be wrong as I was one of those the season before last who thought Charlie Mulgrew was rotten and should have been released on a free, so to be honest what do I know about football!!
T4
Aye, craig burley is my alter ego, dearie me……
Can I not say what I think without being called a hun :>)
Tis the truth whether you like it ir not :>)
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HT
Surprised that you questioned that Lenny and or his coaches haven’t been learning form previous mistakes.
From what I have read from your posts made me question you, delighted by the way, he imo doesn’t seem to be learning, sad to say, but at the end of the day, I still, believe he is doing his job hamstringed, so I will cut him much slack.
bournesouprecipe on 22 July, 2012 at 23:42 said:
I have seen us beat a lot better mate,albeit at home.
Don’t get too carried away with Ajax,and don’t be too despondent with that wee Celtic team.
Tactics and team selection let us down,simple as that.
eh?
67 heaven
I salute you sir…hail feckin hail
Marrakesh Express on 22 July, 2012 at 23:48 said:
Fair comments.
….PFayr on 22 July, 2012 at 21:53 said:
to true my friend
re: signings and youth players: i acutally think NFL has been well supported by the board, when you consider the amount of bodies making up our first team squad. i think its normal that the board now address the squad size/ wage bill. in my opinion, we have not used our income wisely in the past (pre-NFL) even so, the board backed NFL and in doing so increased the squad size in order to win the league. that led to an unbalanced side, wages being spread thin and the need to trim the squad, hence the 10 or so players who have already departed this season.
The recent trimming of the squad needs to continue, as i said earlier, with another 6 + squad players leaving in order to free up wages although that will depend on interest from other parties. the lose of ki, in order to get some money in, may have to take place with any other fees greatly appriciated for others. i would guess we have a good few players (thompson 3k, blackman 3k, mccourt 8k, radmussion 10k, murphy 15k (great agent), ki 10k, bangurra 10k) taking good wages for nothing. however, they often act as barriers to the first team for young players.
hopefully we can move these players on and if so we can bring in 2 quality players this season. then we can give young players a chance to get into the team due to less squad players blocking their progress. young players will benefit more from working with quality operaters on a daily basis and during games, and will be more motivated if they see an openning, hence young players should progress further the first team will be better because quality will come before quantity for the first time in 4 years.
i can kind of see why the board would want to move players on before bringing others in. i dont think you can accuse them of not backing the manager
keep the faith
JimmyQuinnsBits on 22 July, 2012 at 23:42 said:
No dis-respect to anybody,but i consider Franco to be a legend.
The scourge of the Masonic.
We are one of the best run clubs in Europe lol
Peter lawell in same sentance as Jock stein Lol
here are the facts bhoys
how many trophies have we won in last 4 years? and The Ex Huns didnt stop us for all of them
How many times have we been in champions league in last 4 years?
we are number 75 in europe and climbing
Best run Footbal club?
our sucesses on the park have been woefull
dont me me laff
HT
That post wasn’t right.
Far too much vino, Not delight at all, far from it, unhappy that things are no going right for Lenny, and I know he is doing all he can for the cause, just can’t do his job tha way he want’s imo.
Marrakesh Express on 22 July, 2012 at 23:48
agree totaly mate
Ffs, fight in an empty hoose
Is it the result any of us would want to see? No.
Is it a worrying indicator for the qualifiers? Mibbe, mibbe naw.
Personally, i think we’ve got enough to get i to the group money. Dont think we’ll go beyond that – depending on the group of course.
Maybe we’re saving up for a blitz next year, i dunno. One thing for certain, we live by money constraints, whether we like it or not.