The clean sheet record had to go eventually, so I’m pleased it went to a good goal, not an error by Fraser, which would have been harsh on the big keeper. Having already recorded Celtic’s, then Scotland’s league clean sheet record, the British and European records were within touching distance, but that is now a matter for next season.
Months ago, when Virgil van Dijk first suggested we could go through the league season without defeat I said we were not nearly consistent enough to achieve this. Ironically, last night’s defeat came after a sustained period of consistent an authoritative performances, in the league.
Aberdeen will have lots of reasons to wonder where there team might go now, having beaten Celtic twice in a month. Amid all the newspaper talk in 2012 that Celtic needed their soon to be liquidated opponent, a few of us suggested that what Celtic really need is an opponent, and that Aberdeen, playing to a captive audience in a wealthy city, were the most likely candidates.
Manager, Derek McInnes, knows he does not have the resources to compete over a league programme, but he has proven a few points: he knows how to beat Celtic and his team are the best of the rest.
If Aberdeen can cope with the vagaries of trips to Easter Road and Victoria Park next season, four games against Celtic will take care of themselves. Let’s hope Newco Rangers don’t nip in and buy their best players with that non-emergency £1.5m loan.
The immediate challenge for Celtic is to get back into winning form on Saturday. League Cup finalists, Inverness, will come to make up the numbers.
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Geordie Munro
15:54 on
26 February, 2014
Bada,
The one I mention was a booking early doors. Maybe 10 mins. Edge of their box.
I wasn’t running down Mcginn earlier. I was laughing at the reason for buying him.
Frank Ryan,
So we won’t see any posts from you decrying the manager for picking x instead of y? ;)
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I don’t believe I have in the past?? But stand to be corrected
At the game I thought the VVD tackle merited a yellow,despite returning at 2AM furious I had to have a look at the recording and I am still of the opinion the player was not in an ” obvious ” goalscoring position as the rules state.
I am of the view Thompson had no intention of allowing us a fair or balanced application of the rules, as he inconsistently applied yellows to our players and ignored Aberdeen for similar offences,Considine as an example.
NL was right to call him out.
As for McInnes having our measure,sorry dont agree,he had the referee stopping play,awarding fouls and effectively blunting our efforts,for those fair weather fans who have only been around since MON and are crying for the return of the 15% mob,kindly take note as NO GAME would be in our control as instanced last night.
Sftb
My sister was telling me about a Horizon programme I must watch on catch up about how human beings reach decisions.
It seems that there is an inbuilt mechanism that diverts us from looking at evidence if that evidence contradicts an already held world view.
(It would also be the case that any already held world view causes us to interpret the evidence to suit, something that we need to be very aware of when we are convinced something is true, because whilst it might be, there might be a missing element that makes it not so).
Had the programme been looking for evidence to support this theory they need look no further than football supporters in general and CQN posters as a segment of that group.
It would seem there is always a bias at play whether we are aware of it or not.
As a simple example I mentioned a podcast on tsfm with Stuart Cosgrove. It is rather good but because it was Cosgrove and somewhere in the past he said something that some folk were offended by, the focus was on Cosgrove and not his message.
Perhaps listening to the message would require a change of world view on Cosgrove and that requires effort. Effort to explore the evidence in his words, effort to contemplate it and effort to admit our world view was inaccurate.
Lack of effort can be described as lazy (you can see where the link is here) and perhaps that is just a feature of the human condition.
It is interesting that in his book The Road Less Travelled M Scott Peck concludes that the original sin was laziness. Instead of making the effort to understand the true nature of things through experience young Adam and Eve were tempted into taking a short cut to acquire the knowledge of good and evil, doing so by experience was too much hard work.
I absolutely applaud you efforts to put your hard work at the disposal of us all, but it would make your effort less if others were aware that it is not about being right or wrong but being enlightened by what we all have to share with each other. Be that Lenny’s tactical acumen or the meaning of life.
The frog says “Hello ” by the way. ;)
I enjoyed this line from the shameless liar’s statement:
“My prime condition is that any funds introduced by me would go into the club for the benefit of the team and the dilapidating infrastructure”.
So there you have it, straight from the horses mouth. Ibrox is a feckin dump.
bournesouprecipe
16:37 on
26 February, 2014
NatKnow
Hmmm…..possibly yet we’ve Bloggers that think Celtic are set out too cautiously and Bloggers that think the opposite, NFL gets ‘critique’ whatever he does?
I thought his immediate response was positive, CM to CB sadly he was five inches shorter than VVD who’d have headed away the cross for Rooney’s goal.
I’m not convinced with AS and LG as a partnership.
WhatWouldMourinhoHaveDone CSC
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Yes – Neil will get ‘critique’ whatever he does because everyone has a view and no (thanks to the wonder of the interweb) the mechanism to express it. I’m of the opinion that opinions are not equally valid, but happy for everyone to have the right to express them. I’m also happy to pick up on them when I think they’re talking mince – as everyone does with mine! That’s freedom of expression for you.
I think you’re tight that Neil’s response was positive – I thought it did leave us a bit more exposed in midfield. I’m not sure my proposal would have led to a different outcome. I’m happy to continue to support Neil. Everyone can have an opinion, but there’s only 1 manager!!
asonofdan-let me get this right,King ,a convicted fraudster,wants the Sevco hordes to save their ST money and give it to him.Ye couldnae make this up.King has not put any money in to Sevco,and wants to get them on the cheap,typical hun.
This blog is just everyones opportunity to talk Celtic. We have all watched poor Celtic teams over the years. The 1990’s were brutal.I wouldn’t have missed it for all the world and those dire times were on my mind as i took my seat in Seville. The Celtic Football and Athletic Club. Ain’t we blessed. HH.
Listen out for Delahunt glossing over King’s convictions ,and telling guys who mention it ,to hurry up and make their point.Pretty important point if you are giving your money to a concicted fraudster i would have thought.
So Scotland are going to play in the hoops ?
Excathedera
Thomson made a game changing decision last night. A yellow for a foul would have drawn comment but no one could have said later it was a game changer.
Whenever Celtic find themselves in a competitive match in Scotland the result is invariably affected by a refereeing decision.
In short we need to be 20 odd points better than the rest for refereeing not to matter. I call it insidious refereeing and it will go on as long as the SFA are resonsible for referees from recruitment, training appointing and performance assessment. Far too much influence on the results concentrated in the one place. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The SPFL must take over the assessment responsibility by having assessors reporting to them and not the SFA. Appoints to be jointly agreed.
The SPFL are the customer here and the SFA the service provider. In no other industry but football does the service provider assess how good they are. The customer does that.
The SFA need to be reformed into service providers to leagues accountable to the leagues and through them clubs then supporters.
Thomson may have acted without any bias in his decision but he should not find himself in a position where that charge can be made.
The whole governance set up lends itself to corruption and the bitter fruits of that set up are manifest to see for those with eyes prepared to.
setting free the bears supports Res. 12 & Oscar Knox
16:40 on
26 February, 2014
Nat Know
Re The Karagandy throw-in warnings.
Knowing a team’s tactics and succesfully stopping them are two entirely different things.
I agree.
We knew Barca’s fondness for pressing when they don’t have the ball and keeping possession when they do have it. In most games we got our tactics right to counter this. In one game, despite playing largely similar tactics, we came grossly unstuck.
I agree.
Karagandy’s equivalents in the EPL, Stoke City, had several succesful seasons exploiting the long throw. Every manager, even the geniuses, knew it was coming. They still managed to use that limited tactic to good effect.
True.
It seems to me that most people on here judge how successful a tactic has been by the result. If you lose, the deduction is that you got your tactics wrong.
Not so sure that is entirely correct, SFTB. It’s not as if the criticism is not there when we win! People use different ways to analyse a game, pick up on different points and come to different conclusions. Not sure how you’d demonstrate how most people arrive at their conclusion.
How come then that a manager with NFL’s wining record is still classed as tactically naive/ out-thought/ a rookie non-learner?
I have my own thoughts on the answer and they are mostly to do with a pre-determination to make the facts fit no matter how hard you must squeeze them. That, and a relentless desire to pursue the big C Keevins/Durham method and cause wind-up and upset.
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Confirmation bias is a popular (natural?) approach when making analyses.
We are still guilty of very lazy journalism on here indeed.
I’m no journalist. I’m just using a blog to shoot the breeze on what happens in the footie So there’s no real standard I need to be held to. It’s opinion – nothing more.
Re: Karagandy thrown ins – as I say, I would expect our scouts picked up on this. We could have dealt with it better during the game. Did we fail to prepare? Who knows.
In Neil I trust.
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SFTB – answers to your points above…
HH
Good afternoon all.
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Wee mistake on the email address there apologies.
Kojo
You seem to know quite a bit about our reserve team. Do you think we have the players who can step up? For example a left back and a centre half.
BRTH, cheers, what’s the email address we can get the virtual ticket or an actual ticket from?
Sure We Learned tae Fear ,,the Gandydancers.. ‘Secret Weapon’
Fur we ..
Made Siccar that They Didnae Steal that March oan ur.. Again..
the Next time that we met.
The Result ..wiz..
We Won the Next Game ,in which we Me ’em..
We wur oan oor Guard..
So we won that Yin….Very Well..Didn’t we?
Yep..
The Aphorism.. in this Case wiz..
“Forewarned is Fore-Armed”
Like Ah said.. The Gandydancers caught us Flat -Fitted..in oor First encounter..
Because..
Oor Crack Scouting Team..hjd Failed tae Warn Us o… The Gandydancers..
“Secret Weapon”
Yep.. Oor Scouts Let us Doon..
No Argument,Folks.. They Jist .. well.. Messed up.
AN..
That is a FACT.
Kojo
Yorkbhoy
Agree with you mate.
Went through Deidco 9 In a row ( or the cheating years as we come to know them)hoping and praying for a break , when any victory was savoured as if it was the last .
Rolling about in the muck and p**h at Airdrie , celebrating an equaliser during the Brady era, praying for a UEFA cup spot, standing in the uncovered Celtic end in the lashing rain , pummelling the Hun only to get pumped by a breakaway.
These bleak days and years are character building and should make the years of success even sweeter.
I would have bitten your hand off in those days to have what we have now .
Yes, there are things with the board I ain’t happy with but my goodness , it could be a lot worse!!
HH
From taxlawphlebeian twitter
So the brethren at the SFA have decided to honour a fellow mason who married a Rothschild, they are laughing at us now!
Kojo
I thought we were more than comfortable up to the ordering off.
Two chances at least and Stokes possibly fouled at one of them and Aberdeen well contained.
The ordering off changed everything Hayes received the ball in the area Mulgrew would have occupied and pressured Hayes. Arguably VVD would have covered their second.
The team put out suggests NL had learned from his previous encounter. The only question about that previous set up is why Briton was not picked.
The boy in your words is a brammer and in selecting him Lenny refutes your charge.
I rest my case on the basis of mitigating circumstances.
King certainly has the
character:
http://www.iol.co.za/business/news/tax-court-labels-king-shameless-glib-liar-1.1027561#.Uw4ydeN_uSo
and endorsements:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/barry-ferguson-dave-king-returning-2360162
to be the top man at Fawlty Towers.
Has he been given the Fit and Proper Person, rubber stamp by the dodo club fans at Hampden ?
See that clinic in Switzerland that people go to die.
A lot cheaper option would be to sit them in the Clyde SSB studio for them to die of boredom.
And Huns, follow MR KING and all the assets will disappear before your eyes before he can get near them.
Anyone spot the cosy wee pre match chat on the touchline between the ref and fourth official Brines which ended with both giving each other a ‘knowing’ look?
My immediate thoughts were confirmed some 12 minutes later.
Doc is Neil Lennon
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hen1rik
18:31 on
26 February, 2014
From taxlawphlebeian twitter
So the brethren at the SFA have decided to honour a fellow mason who married a Rothschild, they are laughing at us now!
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hen1rik
The illuminati have gotten to you !
Winnings Captain,
How do you go about ordering SEVILLE?
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Token
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Auldheid
18:10 on
26 February, 2014
Well said,excellent summary of events.
I do not want any favours,nor do I expect to go through Seasons without controversial decisions,however the frequency of the infamous ” honest mistakes” to our detriment,do not bear scrutiny.
Unless our Board,not our Football Manager starts asking pertinent questions and threatening to raise the call for external officials,then we will be dis-advantaged.
Kojo
18:22 on
26 February, 2014
Sure We Learned tae Fear ,,the Gandydancers.. ‘Secret Weapon’
Fur we ..
Made Siccar that They Didnae Steal that March oan ur.. Again..
the Next time that we met.
The Result ..wiz..
We Won the Next Game ,in which we Me ‘em..
We wur oan oor Guard..
So we won that Yin….Very Well..Didn’t we?
Yep..
The Aphorism.. in this Case wiz..
“Forewarned is Fore-Armed”
Like Ah said.. The Gandydancers caught us Flat -Fitted..in oor First encounter..
Because..
Oor Crack Scouting Team..hjd Failed tae Warn Us o… The Gandydancers..
“Secret Weapon”
Yep.. Oor Scouts Let us Doon..
No Argument,Folks.. They Jist .. well.. Messed up.
AN..
That is a FACT.
Kojo
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There is no such thing as a fact – mathematics is the only truth – and even that is disputed! It was the fault of the scouts for not identifying? Here’s some other possibilities :
– Our scouts DID highlight their propensity for long throw-ins and set-pieces and the information wasn’t passed on to the players with enough emphasis.
– The players did know about the possibility of long throw-ins and set pieces, but chose to ignore it.
– The players knew about it and tried to do something about it but (for whatever reason) failed to deal with it well-enough.
Lot of possible reasons.
Also – you highlight that we learned their game, took account, changed our tactics and won our next encounter. That kinda negates what you were saying earlier – that Neil doesn’t learn a lesson?
Good evening friends
also good friends
From Brattback twitter
Yesterday IA failed in his attempt to trigger an insolvency event. Today the shameless glib liar tries for the same. Pattern?
Auldheid
I watched the Horizon prog and found it facinating.
A Nobel prize winner for studying his and companions mistakes.
Why do posters feel the need to compare our current form, success and overall performances to the bleak days of the ’90s?
Why not compare the present situation to the mid ’60s to mid ’70s for example?
I was there in the ’90s it was bleak, it was depressing and by God it hurt.
However, it’s worthless claiming that you’d have bitten the hand off anyone offering you today’s situation back in those days.
The club is an entirely different one to the one that saw us go 9 years without a title win and 6 without a trophy of any description.
For several years we’ve punched above our weight in Europe but continued downsizing and the selling of our best talent has resulted in us getting our arse handed to us on a plate this year. There appears to be a lack of desire for growth and clearly I don’t mean financial growth here because our plc could never be accused of that, heaven forbid!
Celtic will win the league at a canter this year but with our resources we should be doing that.
In domestic cup competitions our performances and results have been dreadful on the whole. Poor tactics, management and individual displays have been the cause, that’s undeniable.
This is more of a rant than anything constructive I just got pissed off reading so many posters stating how if we think things are bad now then we should remember how bad things once were.
What about remembering how good they once were?!
Hendrix67
Ah don’t know any mair than You Dae.. aboot oor Reserve Guys..if Ah wiz left tae Ma own devices..
But..
Ma ..Dug.. collie, his Three Cousins ,who are Members of the Celtic Youths Coaching Staff,at
Bhoystown.
n..those worthies.. Keep ,collie. Up tae Date in the Going oan..at the Oor Youth Complex.
n.. well.. collie,in turn.. Let’s me Know ..whit he hiz Learned aboot. Who is Who in the Celtic Youth’s Wonderland..
So..Tae answer yer Questions..
The Likely Lads. at this Time.
Who Seem tae Be.. Very Promising Youngsters,,, Ones, who May mak the Big Step up ,Successfully,tae the Biggies.. but..
Be well Aware ,of the Fact.., that there is NO GUARANTEE.. Folks..
Jist.. Hopeful Predictiions..
Well, Amongst the Mair Likely of the Present Complement of Likely Lads..
Cal Millar.. or Miller.. Is a Stand oot.. He jist Is..
he is a Forward.
Young Owen O’Connell, is a Cracking Prospect ,at C.B.
along with..his Present .. Partner..
Young Fraser.
Although, way back in the Running.. because of this Youth..
Is. Ma Tip fur C.B. glory..in the Future..
Must be..
Young.. MARK HILL.. this Kid is a real Prospect.. Ah think that he is only Fifteen or Sixteen..He is wan tae watch oot fur.
Joe Thompson..is anither young guy.. who sure knows the wey tae The Goal..
he is.. Sixteen.. Ah hiv seen Him..in Video.. He is a Natural. Predator.. he is a Mid Fielder..
Liam Henderson, well. everybuddy knows ,this Kid ..has A BIG future..
At Centre Forward..
Ah like the Cut of Denny Johnstone..
He is Very Like, Tony Watt,in his over all Play..
He is A Strongly Built Kid. n .. he is a very Good Ball Manipulator, also..
A Like This Kid Aloat..
So far..Neil Hisnae gien him a Thought.. but. we wull seel..
At Right Back..
we Hiv a Youngster Named. Chalmers..
Ah like Him aloat, n Ah hiv seen him,also ..in Video..
This Kid Should get an Outing.. Ah believe that He wid had the Success,which has bin enjoyed by Young Fisher.. whom Ah also, like a Loater..
Ah am no sure if Young Chalmers,who is a LEFT BACk..
has noo gone oot in Loan..or No.. But..
Is he Hisnae ,, then Neil, should gie this Young Man.. An Ooting in the First team..As soon as He kin..
Good Left Backs dinnae grow oan Trees,, as ye know too well..
Ah believe the Young Chalmers, could turn oot tae be
BETTAH , than.. Izzy..which Seems tae Defy.. Logic.. but… there ye ur.
So.
You Kin See that there are quite a Few Young Uns.. Whom we should be taking a look At ..
No harm is gien Some of them a Keek at the Big Time..
As oor Strong Lead in the League Race. wid soitenly Allow That tae Happen , withoot too Much Fear ..oan the Part of the Manager..
However..Knowing Neil’s Predilection tae Playin it safe..
Ah don’t expect we shall see Many of these Likely Lads getting a
Crack ..at the Big Team’s Peerie..
this Season.
Nice Chatting,kiddo.
Kojo
Still,Laughin’
the raven
18:36 on 26 February, 2014
I right I’m just a YTS in this game I’m trying to learn from the best :)
Shortbread been trying their best to get NL in to bother re comments about Thomson
Gotta Scram, Sam
Seeya
Kojo
Still,Laughin
hen1rik
18:50 on
26 February, 2014
the raven
18:36 on 26 February, 2014
I right I’m just a YTS in this game I’m trying to learn from the best :)
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lol…………u still geting good stuf from the barber ?