I get that football thrives where it is a manifestation of tribalism. Across Europe and beyond club flags offer people more affinity with than any national emblem.
But, with one or two exceptions, it’s a largely innocuous brand. We get to wear tribal garb and indulge in our rituals without onerous economic consequence. The echo from the Great Recession, which we are still hearing today, has been a lesson in what can happen when a tribe perceives that its relative position has diminished.
That perception often bears absolutely no relation to reality, but widespread economic illiteracy makes us look like a primitive animals.
My only flag’s a Celtic flag. You are my only tribe.
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BT,
Take plenty of money, that place is extortionate to keep riff raff like us out.
I find it quite sleezy
Canman
Is that so?
I’ll stick to the Grove then :-)
BT,
Wise choice, great wee boozer
k.lcallaghan@yahoo.co.uk
E-mail me please
Cana
Done
Help ? When is the next Celtic agm and when is the HMRC Appeal due to be heard ?
HH
Agm
Next Wednesday big Jimmy
I have been caught out by ole Pistol Pete as it’s usually a Friday…
“Trump won fair and square.”
Though, it seems, having received fewer votes than Clinton.
That’s votes from actual, flesh and blood, US citizens, not electoral college votes.
Everytime I FART I think of the next president of the USA.
GG @ 02.27 hrs.
It is sooooooo obvious that you are not idiotic or gullible.
The only gullible people is the people who didn’t see this coming.
The same people who only accept democracy if the result suits. The same people who would have the well educated career politicians speaking down to and not with the ordinary working people, The same people claim to hate the establishment, but are actually part of it.
The same people who dismiss the genuine fears of ordinary working people , which claiming to represent them. The same people who dismiss the principles of ordinary people as uneducated, daft and worthless.
No my friend you are not gullible , but I do recognise gullible on here at times.
Many of us also really value your contributions during the live updates. For those of us who cannot watch every game, they are invaluable.
HH to all.
Keith Jackson on Heathrow flight just now. Dressed like a boy band member.
Muppet
GREENPINATA on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 8:51 AM
Anyone who believes Trump is an honest and sincere individual is gullible.
Anyone who thinks he has a rational, coherent political strategy is gullible.
Anyone who believed his campaign ‘promises’ is gullible.
The one thing he will do though is cut taxes for the rich.
Lets wait and see.
He can’t pay less than his current zero.
Sterling v Wallace.
RIP Scotland
Safe home Broonie
Ernie..,
It’s all opinion and speculation on your part, you actually have no idea what will happen
as you say let’s wait and see.
Ernie,
I fear you fall right into the gullible criteria as listed @ 08.51 hrs.
HH.
SAINT STIVS SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 8:57 AM
‘Keith Jackson on Heathrow flight just now. Dressed like a boy band member.’
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Like this?
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/166E6/production/_85687819_rollers_1975_bbc.jpg
Oh and VFR..,
Now about that prediction based on your quality sources and number crunching, how did that work out :)
Shoulda been on the telly
GG
I said before the elections and I repeat afterwards, Donald Trump’s motivation to seek the nomination and the Presidency is very similar to Dave King’s.
While Rangers went bankrupt only once, so far, Donald has bankrupted 6 companies as a “successful” businessman alongside having an EBT like tax exemption for many years because his company had made a massive loss.
Yet this is the man who is going to make America great again- and the only firm policy he has to do this, and he has provided no details as to how to implement these policies, is to promise to “re-negotiate” trade deals (and to save a bit of money by reducing foreign military activities).
Well it will take more than to to tango over the first promise and he will be more than half way through his first and only term of office before he makes any headway on this with even one other country (who will want to agree to trade talks when he has declared his hand that he wants more favourable terms for his side and less favourable terms for the side agreeing to negotiate?).
And as for his second promise, if he ever meant it, he will need good luck going up against the Complex which makes money out of these foreign adventures. Even a switch from reducing troops on ground and increasing bombing ordnance will not be allowed to save a lot. These guys have sucked more from the teat of US taxpayers than any “Obamacare” Health Insurance policy ever has.
Donald is there for the same reasons that most rich guys enter politics i.e. to defend his own riches and those of his pals who will fund him to do so.
I have no difficulty in accepting your motivation on the single issue of Abortion policy, though I did disagree with you on the official position of the US Catholic Church which, on its own website, urged Catholic voters to take all issues and policies into account, and were quite rugged on the issue of taking a rounded approach. Without reference to Trump, I think they are aware of the dangers of backing an anti-abortion candidate whose other policies are pernicious and hateful and contrary to church teaching too.
Where I think the charge of gullibility sticks is in believing that a thin-skinned rich man who never held a political office can deliver or ever intended to deliver on the make America Great rhetoric. Whenever he spelled out a policy detail, “we are going to build a wall and Mexico will pay for it” it was quite patently rubbish. It was the equivalent of Dave King ( & Charlie) telling their gullibles that he was going to make Rangers great again whilst he was dipping their pockets and trying to get HIS money back.
I fear you are in for disappointment and I cannot see Donald lasting the whole 4 years. He will quit as soon as he sees that he is not delivering on any of his promises, except the easy one of returning Health Care to the even more unaffordable Health Insurance spivs who had it before. He will blame every one else for failing to allow him to deliver. And, in that regard, it will look very similar to Dave King’s parting statements when he exits his rescue plan to make Dave King Rich again, erm Rangers Great again.
All those blue collar workers who trust a Wall Street Insider (that’s what Trump is- he just pulled the same rhetorical trick as Junior Bush, who was a good ol boy from Texas, an outsider rather than a scion of a Washington Central Family Dynasty) to improve their lot by making health care less affordable for many, or by providing tax cuts for the wealthy at the cost of cuts to public services, are being led astray by empty rhetoric, I am afraid.
And while he may add a few restrictions on abortion or prevent any roll back on existing policy, you can bet your bottom dollar that his own private ethics on any unfortunate outcome from his own extra-marital adventures will not be affected by these moral restrictions.
Many on the right, and at Ibrox, long for a big strong man to come along and do all the right things on their behalf. That default position leaves them exploitable.
There is no Superman, there is just The Wizard of Oz.
P.S. As usual, none of the above is an endorsement of Hilary
GREENPINATA on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:04 AM
Fatuous response.
It’s perfectly possible to understand why people voted Trump, be aware of their alienation and disaffection, yet still regard them as gullible.
Not all of them of course, there will be those who are just plain nasty and mean. Like the KKK and the neo nazis.
Work has started now- will catch replies later
Forgive the typos.
Ernie,
The use of the word Fatuous speaks volumes.
Why not use everyday language like foolish or silly . ?
HH.
GREENPINATA on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:12 AM
Why not just grunt?
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:06 AM
GG
I said before the elections and I repeat afterwards, Donald Trump’s motivation to seek the nomination and the Presidency is very similar to Dave King’s.
While Rangers went bankrupt only once, so far, Donald has bankrupted 6 companies as a “successful” businessman alongside having an EBT like tax exemption for many years because his company had made a massive loss.
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Spurious comparison.
When was Donald Trump charged with fraud ?
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:06 AM
A learned treatise on the future.
ERNIE LYNCH on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:14 AM
GREENPINATA on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:12 AM
Why not just grunt?
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A perfect example of a Typical reaction that out of touch middle class left wing intellectuals would use when speaking down to ordinary working people.
Really delighted that Trump has beaten the Pro-Abortion, Pro-War, Pro-Perversion candidate in Clinton.
The world is at last turning on the right course after 50 years of progressive madness.
GREENPINATA on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:22 AM
Take your affected, transparently false, prollier than thou attitude and ram it.
No offence.
ERNIE LYNCH on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:26 AM
GREENPINATA on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:22 AM
Take your affected, transparently false, prollier than thou attitude and ram it.
No offence.
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Absolutely no offence taken, however another perfect example.
Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on 10th November 2016 8:19 am
BT,
Take plenty of money, that place is extortionate to keep riff raff like us out.
I find it quite sleezy
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Ach yer erchie big man, it is a perfectly good boozer/restaurant though admittedly different from The Grove.
That used to be a wee run in my student days. Grove, Snaffle Bit, Park Bar and then The Outside Inn for a glass of wine or ten don’t ya know!
They said Duda will not win in Poland
They said there will be no Brexit
They said Trump will not win
Now they say Celtic is not going to win Champions League
BIG PEAT OF ISLAY, I’M A MONARCHIST WHO WEARS A POPPY IN REMEMBRANCE on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:25 AM
Back in the day you would have supported Franco, Mussolini, Mosley and probably Hitler (in the early days, obviously maybe not so much later on), for much the same reasons you support Trump, wouldn’t you? Be honest about it.
If Res12 is going to be dealt with properly, even if the SFA have acted properly, then they must answer accusations that they did not.
This on line petition
https://www.change.org/p/the-scottish-football-association-the-sfa-has-to-respond-to-allegations-of-impropriety-concerning-the-issue-of-uefa-licences?recruiter=61565626&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive
Is a chance to put the pressure on for answers so please sign up no matter your cynicism over achieving the objective.
Oh dear.
The “canny take its ” are , to use the vernacular , spewing.
Hilarious.
Or perhaps Hillarious.
ZBYSZEK on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:29 AM
They said Duda will not win in Poland
They said there will be no Brexit
They said Trump will not win
Now they say Celtic is not going to win Champions League
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Mate.
I`m an optimist ,but first I`m a realist .
However , hope springs eternal .
:-)
ERNIE LYNCH on 10TH NOVEMBER 2016 9:30 AM
Franco, absolutely. Fighting the atheistic communist scum, protecting the Church. Absolutely. A hero.
It’s funny.
The biggest defenders of democracy then are the biggest critics of the democratic choice now.
BIG PEAT OF ISLAY, I’M A MONARCHIST WHO WEARS A POPPY IN REMEMBRANCE
I forgot to add Salazar to that list.
But yes you would have supported Franco, still do by the sound of it..
My point is that, at the time, you would have supported the others. All of them. And for the same reason you support Trump.
Not saying you wouldn’t have changed your mind, and maybe even had some regrets, once you realised their true nature. But at the time you would have supported them.