You thought St Mirren were a hard watch? Livingston won three and drew three of their last six games but did not manage the majority of possession in any of those outings. Incredibly, they beat Dundee (by four goals), Dundee United and Aberdeen with an average of 39% possession.
If they dug in against the team at the bottom of the league, they will only leave their defensive third to have a shot on goal against the league leaders on Sunday (expect them to shoot on sight).
There will be no surprises. High crosses into the box will be successfully defended. There will be no space in front of goal, marking will be skintight, the defensive line will be straight. The pitch will be terrible, passing and control will be difficult – if you have a ticket, please be forgiving.
If you needed a reason to be concerned more than Celtic’s historical results against Livi, their recent form is impressive. Livingston have collected the joint second highest points total from their last five games, just two behind Celtic.
The first objective will be to get possession inside their box. We have the players to make any defender nervous at making a rash challenge with a penalty on the line. Shots from the edge of the area will be important. A ricochet did us no harm against St Mirren, against a packed defence, another is very possible.
Teams who win leagues win games like this. Three points for Celtic here will go a long way to achieving that objective.
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The Ingram family stayed next close to us in Barlanark.Grew up as kids together,although I never had any great dealings with them,as they were pure Huns.There were a few in the family,and around about the 70s they were allegedly raising money for Loyalist Paramilitaries.Very secretive and sly.
Now I have no idea which one the would be Councilor is,mists of time,but the Barlanark FB were a right evil shower.Some on here might know or have heard of the Campbells and Drummond’s.The Irvine’s,not as high profile,but well up in it.Sure one of them got caught under the Prevention of Terrorism Act.Big story at the time.
Will make great Councillor
Sorry for the last post.Wrong councillor. This one already sitting somewhere,or was.
Tom Mclaughlin
Was it 94 at the Gabba ?
Warnes hat trick game ?
CELTIC MAC
The tickets for Scotland v Ukraine went on sale to registered members of the SFA Tartan Army Club (or whatever it’s called) on Monday 1st February. The sale to the general public was Monday 28th February.
Both these ticket sale dates were set and made public last October.
There is no way the SFA rushed these ticket sales through to rake in money knowing the Ukraine game might be in danger of not going ahead.
Gene on 4th March 2022 5:36 pm
Scully
I have no respect for any but- that’s a cheap shot – Putin is committing genocide.
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Sorry if I caused you offence, but consider:
At the height of the 1932-33 Ukrainian famine under Joseph Stalin, starving people roamed the countryside, desperate for something, anything to eat. In the village of Stavyshche, a young peasant boy watched as the wanderers dug into empty gardens with their bare hands. Many were so emaciated, he recalled, that their bodies began to swell and stink from the extreme lack of nutrients.
“You could see them walking about, just walking and walking, and one would drop, and then another, and so on it went,” he said many years later, in a case history collected in the late 1980s by a Congressional commission. In the cemetery outside the village hospital, overwhelmed doctors carried the bodies on stretchers and tossed them into an enormous pit.
The Ukrainian famine—known as the Holodomor, a combination of the Ukrainian words for “starvation” and “to inflict death”—by one estimate claimed the lives of 3.9 million people, about 13 percent of the population. And, unlike other famines in history caused by blight or drought, this was caused when a dictator wanted both to replace Ukraine’s small farms with state-run collectives and punish independence-minded Ukrainians who posed a threat to his totalitarian authority.
“The Ukrainian famine was a clear case of a man-made famine,” explains Alex de Waal, executive director of the World Peace Foundation at Tufts University and author of the 2018 book, Mass Starvation: The History and Future of Famine. He describes it as “a hybrid…of a famine caused by calamitous social-economic policies and one aimed at a particular population for repression or punishment.”
In those days, Ukraine—a Texas-sized nation along the Black Sea to the west of Russia—was a part of the Soviet Union, then ruled by Stalin. In 1929, as part of his plan to rapidly create a totally communist economy, Stalin had imposed collectivization, which replaced individually owned and operated farms with big state-run collectives. Ukraine’s small, mostly subsistence farmers resisted giving up their land and livelihoods.
Resistant Farmers Labeled as ‘Kulaks’
In response, the Soviet regime derided the resisters as kulaks—well-to-do peasants, who in Soviet ideology were considered enemies of the state. Soviet officials drove these peasants off their farms by force and Stalin’s secret police further made plans to deport 50,000 Ukrainian farm families to Siberia, historian Anne Applebaum writes in her 2017 book, Red Famine: Stalin’s War on Ukraine.
“Stalin appears to have been motivated by the goal of transforming the Ukrainian nation into his idea of a modern, proletarian, socialist nation, even if this entailed the physical destruction of broad sections of its population,” says Trevor Erlacher, an historian and author specializing in modern Ukraine and an academic advisor at the University of Pittsburgh’s Center for Russian, East European, & Eurasian Studies.
Collectivization in Ukraine didn’t go very well. By the fall of 1932—around the time that Stalin’s wife, Nadezhda Sergeevna Alliluyeva, who reportedly objected to his collectivization policy, committed suicide—it became apparent that Ukraine’s grain harvest was going to miss Soviet planners’ target by 60 percent. There still might have been enough food for Ukrainian peasants to get by, but, as Applebaum writes, Stalin then ordered what little they had be confiscated as punishment for not meeting quotas.
“The famine of 1932-33 stemmed from later decisions made by the Stalinist government, after it became clear that the 1929 plan had not gone as well as hoped for, causing a food crisis and hunger,” explains Stephen Norris, a professor of Russian history at Miami University in Ohio. Norris says a December 1932 document called, “On the Procurement of Grain in Ukraine, the North Caucasus, and the Western Oblast,” directed party cadres to extract more grain from regions that had not met their quotas. It further called for the arrest of collective farm chiefs who resisted and of party members who did not fulfill the new quotas.
Decrees Targeted Ukrainian ‘Saboteurs’
Meanwhile, Stalin, according to Applebaum, already had arrested tens of thousands of Ukrainian teachers and intellectuals and removed Ukrainian-language books from schools and libraries. She writes that the Soviet leader used the grain shortfall as an excuse for even more intense anti-Ukrainian repression. As Norris notes, the 1932 decree “targeted Ukrainian ‘saboteurs,’ ordered local officials to stop using the Ukrainian language in their correspondence, and cracked down on Ukrainian cultural policies that had been developed in the 1920s.”
When Stalin’s crop collectors went out into the countryside, according to a 1988 U.S. Congressional commission report, they used long wooden poles with metal points to poke the dirt floors of peasants’ homes and probe the ground around them, in case they’d buried stores of grain to avoid detection. Peasants accused of being food hoarders typically were sent off to prison, though sometimes the collectors didn’t wait to inflict punishment. Two boys who were caught hiding fish and frogs they’d caught, for example, were taken to the village soviet, where they were beaten, and then dragged into a field with their hands tied and mouths and noses gagged, where they were left to suffocate.
As the famine worsened, many tried to flee in search of places with more food. Some died by the roadside, while others were thwarted by the secret police and the regime’s system of internal passports. Ukrainian peasants resorted to desperate methods in an effort to stay alive, according to the Congressional commission’s report. They killed and ate pets and consumed flowers, leaves, tree bark and roots. One woman who found some dried beans was so hungry that she ate them on the spot without cooking them, and reportedly died when they expanded in her stomach.
“The policies adopted by Stalin and his deputies in response to the famine after it had begun to grip the Ukrainian countryside constitute the most significant evidence that the famine was intentional,” Erlacher says. “Local citizens and officials pleaded for relief from the state. Waves of refugees fled the villages in search of food in the cities and beyond the borders of the Ukrainian Soviet Republic.” The regime’s response, he says, was to take measures that worsened their plight.
By the summer of 1933, some of the collective farms had only a third of their households left, and prisons and labor camps were jammed to capacity. With hardly anyone left to raise crops, Stalin’s regime resettled Russian peasants from other parts of the Soviet Union in Ukraine to cope with the labor shortage. Faced with the prospect of an even wider food catastrophe, Stalin’s regime in the fall of 1933 started easing off collections.
Russian Government Denies Famine Was ‘Genocide’
The Russian government that replaced the Soviet Union has acknowledged that famine took place in Ukraine, but denied it was genocide. Genocide is defined in Article 2 of the U.N. Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948) as “any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.” In April 2008, Russia’s lower house of Parliament passed a resolution stating that “There is no historical proof that the famine was organized along ethnic lines.” Nevertheless, at least 16 countries have recognized the Holodomor, and most recently, the U.S. Senate, in a 2018 resolution, affirmed the findings of the 1988 commission that Stalin had committed genocide.
Ultimately, although Stalin’s policies resulted in the deaths of millions, it failed to crush Ukrainian aspirations for autonomy, and in the long run, they may actually have backfired. “Famine often achieves a socio-economic or military purpose, such as transferring land possession or clearing an area of population, since most flee rather than die,” famine historian de Waal says. “But politically and ideologically it is more often counterproductive for its perpetrators. As in the case of Ukraine it generated so much hatred and resentment that it solidified Ukrainian nationalism.”
Eventually, when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Ukraine finally became an independent nation—and the Holodomor remains a painful part of Ukrainians’ common identity.
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There are many elements of the Great Hunger not everyone may be familiar with, so here are ten horrifying facts about the Irish Famine everyone should understand.
10. Drastic figures – worst of its kind
The Irish potato famine was the worst of its kind to happen in Europe during the 19th century, and had devastating effects, with the population dropping by 20-25%. (JBH will like the stats)
9. Punishment by God? – Some in the Brish Government believed the famine God’s plan to punish the Irish
Some members of the British government saw the Great Irish Famine as an act of God, meant to punish the Irish people and destroy Irish agriculture.
For example, Charles Trevelyan, the man responsible for organising famine relief in Ireland, believed that the famine was God’s way of punishing the Irish population. He said: “The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people.”
As a result, many Irish people believe that the Irish people were left to perish by the British and that it should be considered genocide rather than famine.
8. The Famine spiralled an even bigger drive for independence – the rebellions stood even stronger
Because of the way the British government handled The Great Famine, by providing ineffective measures and continuing to export other Irish food during a time of starvation, lead to people who were already against British Rule, becoming even more resentful.
7. A series of unfortunate events caused the blight – an unlucky year
In 1845, a strain of the potato blight, also known as phytophthora, arrived from North America accidentally.
Due to the rare weather that same year, the blight spread, and in the years following, continued to spread.
6. Death and refugees – the numbers were staggering
Between 1846 and 1849, one million people died, a further million became refugees because of the potato blight, and subsequently were forced to emigrate to places like Canada, America, Australia, and Britain.
5. There were many evictions during the Famine – homeless and hungry
Hundreds of thousands of farmers and labourers were evicted during these challenging times because the financial burden was put on them to help provide food for the starving people.
Eventually, they couldn’t pay their rents.
4. The Irish population – a drastic decline
By the time Ireland finally became the Irish Free State in 1921, half of its population was already abroad or had died of disease or starvation, leading to a century-long population decline.
3. Matters could have been handled differently – closing the ports
Between 1782 and 1783, Ireland was experiencing food shortages, so in turn, they closed all ports to keep all Irish produce to feed their own.
During the Great Irish Famine in 1845, this never happened. Still, food exportation was encouraged, so the British could make more money.
2. The Doolough Tragedy, Co. Mayo – a tragedy within a tragedy
The Doolough tragedy was an event that took place during the Great Irish Famine, in Co. Mayo.
Two officials arrived to inspect the locals who were getting a payment known as outdoor relief, during these challenging times. They were told to meet at a certain place at a certain time to keep their payment.
When the place was changed to another location 19 km away, people perished as they walked the journey in harsh weather conditions.
There’s a cross and a monument in the area to commemorate this tragedy.
1. The Poor Law – a ploy to seize Irish land
If times weren’t already tough, a law was passed saying in essence that Irish property must support Irish poverty.
Anyone who owned even a quarter of an acre of land was not entitled to any relief, which in turn drove people off their land.
Tenant farmers began renting from British owners, and when the rents rose, they were evicted.
Between 1849 and 1854, 50,000 families were evicted.
That concludes our ten horrifying facts about the Irish Famine everyone should understand, a brief lesson in this great tragedy of Irish history, something we all must be aware of, as it shaped the Ireland we live in today.
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That is NOT a cheap shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So sorry, whilst this is a CELTIC NEWS site, I log in and there is nothing but cheap shots about cults etc. I am not Scottish – I was, to my eternal shame born in England – but thank God I grew up in the North of Ireland where we have to KNOW OUR HISTORY.
Sorry Gene – respect, and now I enjoy my Friday night. And I pray that on Sunday Celtic win their most important match of the seaon so far.
COYBIG
BURNLEY78
Yes. 1994 at MCG.
I saw him in 2007 in the first Ashes test at the Gabba.
Australia won the series 5-0.
The famine was nothing to what elizabitch the first did
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 4TH MARCH 2022 5:03 PM
Good to see you on these pages Canamalar.
;-)
HH
Mon broonie
Scullybhoy
I think it was Clinko that posted this the other day, sorry if it wasn’t, it gives a very good insight into the problems just now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-UJ8S63Tsw
Turkeybhoy.
I lived in Barlanark, 1965 onwards.
When did you live there.
Me and my two brothers we whentto St Jude’s then St Andrews.
My older brother went to St Greg’s.
BB@7:18pm
Agree with the pitch, can anyone explain why it’s in such condition when we spent a couple of million on it.
Tim
I recall previous prognosis was a diseased pitch😵
Speaking of fitba, tickets booked for The Batman this weekend.
Pressure on giovani van ebt tomorrow
I can’t recall the course, but a golf course-club in the US did a radical rethink a few years back, they fertilized their course with seaweed, the experimented on other stuff first and eventually found that dried seaweed was the way forward, it cost them very little and they had amazing results, this was a course in a part of the US where the weather isn’t the best, maybes our groundsmen should have a wee look at seaweed, just ask any gardener how good the stuff is.
episode of Dads Army on, one i dont recall.
there is a blood drive in the hall and Captain Mainwaring is competing with the air warden
warden raises 95 or so.
the captain sends the troop out to get “volunteers”
jones retunrs with 83 Italian POWs ……….. to which the warden objects …. not because they are the enemy but because “they are all Roman Catholics”,
still short he asks, did you get anymore ,
yes I have 17 nuns
“bloody more roman catholics”.
SFTB,
from earlier you mentioned a HT in Milton, if it is the guy who became head when I was in Second Year then he should have stuck to politics absolutely useless in a school
TIMHORTON on 4TH MARCH 2022 8:18 PM
BB@7:18pm
Agree with the pitch, can anyone explain why it’s in such condition when we spent a couple of million on it.
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Back in BRs last year he had said it was diseased.
Nothing wrong with the pitch.
Y
Sunday is a difficult one for us no doubt.
Livi will be Livi.
Celtic will be Celtic.
Livi know how to ‘best’ Celtic under Martindale, Holt, etc.
Celtic struggle to ‘best’ Livi under Rodgers, Lennon, Postecoglu.
more struggling on Sunday, and with Celtic diminished to ‘non’ European level under Ange ball it is my hope that Ibrox fc don’t screw the nut and bring in Martindale to Ibrox, as GvB is not cynical enough, ie: he doesn’t / can’t park the bus when he should, and Ibrox supporters or, huns, have cottoned on to that GvB weakness. Martindale at Ibrox would be like a modern day, Tommy McLean, as manager at, Motherwell, DundeeUtd, who Souness and Walter RIP, as Rangers managers, found it an almighty struggle to get past, and jumped out of many prams because of this, vs McLean’s teams, and Celtic fc were on life support in those days, Jim McLean’s RIP, his cute pitches, for Celtic manager’s job went over Timdom’s heads, Jim Mclean used to say when being interviewed after his team had just skelped Celtic’s ass, Jim McLean would say….
“How any Celtic side couldn’t be successful, with the backing that these ((pointing to the Jungle)) Celtic supporters give non stop to back their team, it is very difficult to understand, but these supporters (( pointing to the Jungle, again…)) are like nothing else anywhere in football, they are incredible.”…. said Jim McLean after one of the many skelpings that his DundeeUtd team dished out to us over the years.
Back to Martindale, Ange ball is so good, that Celtic supporters on various web pages are rightly concerned about our up and coming game away to Martindale’s Livi, they don’t play like a Jock Stein RIP, team but they follow one of the great Stein philosophies, keep the game simple and do what your good at, even if that’s being cynical?? Couldn’t see Stein endorsing cynical, but the simplicity of it he would now understand given the vast mismatch in resources what are smaller less resourced teams supposed to do against the very rich Celtic galacticos?? so simplicity then Martindale’s Livi are very good at it, like the great MON was when he had us punching above our weight all the way to Seville in 2003, maybe if the great MON had tore a script from, Martindale’s book then we might’ve won in Seville, as opposed to running about in the heat for 120+ minutes?? Martindale has repaid society for whatever it was that he’s done and served time in prison for that, he should now be allowed a second chance to assimilate back into society, as a football manager in Scotland, Martindale has the supporters of the once great, Celtic fc, worried about playing his Livi team on Sunday.
There are far worse folk than Martindale going around, just check out the ocean of insightful knowledge, Professor Dolores Cahill, you’ll throw your TV out the window as you turn into a raging Hulk after just 10 minutes of this delightful lady. 👍
P.S. That was a crucial point for Dundee led by ex Celt Mark McGhee, on Wednesday night. 👍
lol,
led my mark mcghee,
celtic 9 aberdeen 0
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JHB on 4TH MARCH 2022 5:17 PM
I can’t believe we have Celtic supporters saying they’d take a draw now from our visit to Livingston.
would you be happy with a point for your team.
CANALAMAR
Welcome back!
Regarding Livi on Sunday, the last thing we want to do is just pass the ball back and forth in front of them. We need to vary our play with balls into the corners, get them turning towards their goal, and then press hard if they have the ball. If we have the ball, try to reach the line, and cross it low and hard while their defence is facing their own goal. Tough to defend, and Gia has demonstrated his ability to get on the end of these. Let’s shoot from outside the box at every opportunity, give Jura any free kicks and ask him to shoot, and encourage our wingers to try to get into the box, where penalties are possible. We know that they will do the latter, and MIB Walsh will give them a penalty in a heartbeat. Finally, vary our corners, take some short, and keep Livi off balance.
It is important to score early, as the longer it goes without scoring, the longer I will get to moan about it, 😊 and the more it will encourage the opposition.
INIQUITOUSIV on 4TH MARCH 2022 8:53 PM
I dont think I responded to you yesterday, I enjoyed the insight into sharing a space with Huns in DC.
THE EXILED TIM on 4th March 2022 8:11 pm
Scullybhoy
I think it was Clinko that posted this the other day, sorry if it wasn’t, it gives a very good insight into the problems just now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-UJ8S63Tsw
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Cheers mate! Believe or not, I originally joined this site to get Celtic news. Sadly, a dedicated few kept on about stupid, sectarian Celtic supporters following a cult. I got pi@@ed off. Made the mistake of responding. SORRY. It is a football site.
COYBIG
I’m a sailor man from Glasgow Town
coybig gin the mighty livi
I played for the Greg v Barlanark,who were unbeaten for about 3 years,i scored from about 25 yards,hit the stanchion and the ref said it was a bye kick….memories
Finished 0-0…
Tom, Russia invaded the Ukraine last Thursday, four days before the SFA put the tickets for the match on sale.
Immediately after the invasion Presdent Zelinsky declared Martial Law. Are you still with me? Under Military Law, males between 18-60 were prohibited from leaving Ukraine. As in stopped from leaving. Border Control were ordered to enforce the ban. It included footballers. There was and is no prospect of this game being played, the only ones thinking otherwise were the SFA. For the Ukraine martial law was the priority, for the SFA putting the tickets for the game was the priority. Some might see those as different priorities, one defending your country from attack, the other making sure the money for the game was in the bank.
You might not have any problem with that Tom, but others, myself included might see the actions of the SFA as a complete and utter disgrace. Nothing new there.
Can’t you see?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA2rBMMTv-U
Incredible the work rate by Daizen @ the 80 min mark. Insane in the membrane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDZ9HYCAknc
Chill and Compose yerself for the 2 goals @ the Hate Factory!!!!!
RC on 4TH MARCH 2022 8:51 PM
JHB on 4TH MARCH 2022 5:17 PM
I can’t believe we have Celtic supporters saying they’d take a draw now from our visit to Livingston.
would you be happy with a point for your team.
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I would be happy with draw rather than a defeat – would have loved a draw on our last visit. It’s all about context – of course everyone wants to win – but if you can’t win don’t lose.
Doesn’t matter a jot what anyone wants – it’s what happens on the day. One thing is sure – every Celtic supporter will be desperate to win every game from now on – whether they are of the “proper”, or, ‘improper’ variety.
Canamalar: welcome back. Keep on posting.
ScullyBhoy: nothing to be ashamed of being born in england. You had no choice. Maybe your parents didn’t either.
I know plenty of english people I’ve become friendly with and many of my relatives moved to england to live and work there.
British government & policies: now that’s a different matter.
It’s my opinion Celtic will score 3 possibly 4 in the 1st half on that Pitch. My Son played on it and he said its Brad.