Principled resignations, ASA withdraw adjudication

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I cannot fathom why someone would leak their intentions to quit as chairman of a football club.  Either Walter Smith is sufficiently alarmed by the conduct of his club to resign, or he should be busy working to resolve matters.  Leaking that he intends to resign will surely only add to the nonsense that surrounds the club.

Some will believe that Smith, who accepted the position as chairman of Rangers International when season tickets went on sale in May, can shuffle of the scene now 34,000 tickets have been sold.  Shareholder votes will determine the future of the club, in this instance, the identity of the chairman has little reach beyond parting fans with their cash.

Some investors may consider a more immediate problem is why the club are burning a hugely disproportionate amount of cash to secure promotion from the third tier of Scottish football, and why a management structure is not in place to deploy resources more effectively.

In light of Francisco Sandaza’s off-the-cuff comments to Tommy in Glasgow, and his subsequent dismissal by Rangers International, we urge Mr McCoist to be more cautious than he was after his team’s spirited, but ultimately fruitless, performance in Forfar on Saturday.  It would be unfortunate if McCoist transgressed a condition of employment and suffered accordingly.

Advertising Standards Authority ruling withdrawn

It doesn’t rain but it pours.  The Independent Review Process of the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has looked into the ASA’s recent, and widely reported, ruling on Rangers International’s claim on football titles won by a liquidated club. The Review found that “it was a procedural flaw for the ASA to have relied on an extract only of a report sent to it by the advertiser”.

Further, the review process ruled that “there was also the risk of a substantial flaw of adjudication in the distinction that had been made between ‘club’ and ‘company’, especially in the light of previous ASA decisions about companies that change hands and the circumstances in which the new company could or could not trade off the reputation of the old company”.

The Chairman of the ASA, Lord Smith of Finsbury, as decided to reopen the ASA’s investigation into the case and to withdraw the published adjudication, which favoured the advertiser.  Withdrawing this adjudication does not infer that a different outcome will subsequently be reached.  To use a football analogy, it’s half time and they’re all square.

An interesting, and potentially critical part of the story, is that after the initial ASA decision was issued, the club’s web site noted that their submission to the process included information that a “panel of the London Stock Exchange” supported their claim.

The Stock Exchange subsequently appeared surprised at this assertion, so much so that the club promptly withdrew the claim from the web article.

“You’re history, that’s what you are, na na na na”.
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  1. craigneuktommygemmell

     

    09:58 on

     

    6 August, 2013

     

    Malarkey

     

     

    I actually think its shameful that the club use pictures of their displays,put their song lyrics on tshirts and use clips of the section for marketing purposes after how they have treated them and allowed them to be treated by the police in Celtic Park these past few years.

     

     

    ………..

     

     

    What song lyrics written by The Green Brigade have Celtic used?

  2. craigneuktommygemmell on

    bbhoy

     

     

    DR headline is “EVICTED” with a picture of an empty section 111. So predictable

  3. KevJungle

     

    09:51 on

     

    6 August, 2013

     

     

    One of the GB’s major enemies is the SMSM in particular the DR and your pal ole shug

     

     

    Defend the GB against the bored, but support the DR in destroying the GB

     

     

    Laughable hypocrisy……………….

  4. The team I would like to see selected tomorrow ( but I doubt Neil will have the awareness to follow my suggestion 0:-) )

     

    Forster

     

    Lustig, Wilson ,Moyokoulu (sp) Mulgrew,

     

    Brown,Ambrose,Ledley,Commons,Samaras.

     

    Stokes.

     

     

    Such a line up would give us a solid victory by one or two goals (none conceded).

     

     

    JJ

     

     

    PS I would like to suggest that anyone who wants to comment on the 111 closure should ask themselves: Does this comment create harmony or division? The answer should be considered before pressing the Post button.

  5. Those of you that were at the Ronnie Moran testimonial at Anfield all those years ago will remember that we caused them to have to shut that stand for the start of the season.

     

     

    Now that was a few thousand fans jumping up and down for a single game. Who’s to say that a smaller number of fans jumping up and down every game several times a year could not cause some kind of accumulated effect.

     

     

    I certainly wouldn’t dismiss it out of hand.

  6. Well, well, the big guns are out for ‘The Peepil’ spouting and doing what they should have done years ago. Too late lads. Too late.

     

     

    If John Brown had written his stuff and put it on FollowFollow he’d have been banned as a timposter until as recently as last week. He talks of them going out of business – he forgets to say ‘again’. He talks of board members lining their pockets – no kidding. He talks of money flooding out of the club and administration staring them in the face – and to think we’ve know that for months, how are they only finding that out now? I hope they turn up in huge numbers for the next few months so Mr Green and co get as much money as possible from them.

     

     

    No idea how this is going to play out but it appears the bears are waking up to reality, very slowly. A dangerous and hungry thing is a bear waking up from hibernation.

     

     

    Where will this go? If they get their EGM, if they oust the board will this McColl guy have to pay to keep the club afloat? WIll he pay the upkeep of the huge millstone that is Ibrox? They have no other source of income unless they try another share issue – surely not?

     

     

    Even if he does pay the bills there will have to be a serious analysis of outgoings/ incomings and some serious slashing of the wage bill across the club. I hate to say it but they do have a window of opportunity to make a long term recovery here (of sorts). How they will cope competing on a level playing field is a different matter. They have only ever been successful when they were massively outspending opponents or cheating or both. If they don’t have that luxury then even the lower divisions of Scottish Football may prove a sticking point for them.

     

     

    It’s staggering to listen to the hypocrisy coming from them just now.

  7. Glad to see Lawwell going on the front foot against those who would destroy Celtic,

     

     

    opposing the reinstatement of Campbell Ogilvie,

     

     

    demanding answers to the cheating and corruption that saw us losing years of CL revenue

     

     

    closing sections of the ground, having previously furnished police with names and addresses of insurgents and fundamentalist who are hell bent on destroying seats.

     

     

    Ok so he only did one of the above, but he is brilliant anyway

  8. A Stor Mo Chroi on

    John O Neil:

     

     

    I mentioned Iraq because that is the country that was being brought into the discussion by others, not by me. Maybe that went over your head. The reason that your post went over my head was because what you posted had no relevance regards what I have been posting about. However, if you wish to facetiously dismiss it because you never took the time to read back to absorb what was being discussed, well that is your prerogative but it sort of speaks volumes, lazy journalism like.

  9. lionroars67

     

     

    10:01 on 6 August, 2013

     

    ____________________

     

    I watched – Scotland Today & Reporting Scotland

     

    last night on my TV – in my living room – so going

     

    by your theory – I’m a hypocryte for watching the

     

    news ? Reading the news ? Listening to the news ?

     

    Howard Hughes – CSC

  10. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    hen1rik

     

     

    09:23 on 6 August, 2013

     

    Twitter.

     

     

    Scottish Charity Regulators report into the Rangers Charity Foundation and AC Milan match proceeds. Damning.

     

    https://t.co/Gw0cn7kMWd

     

     

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     

     

    Damning it may be,but as usual,no punishment?!

     

     

    Is every sector of society petrified of punishing Rangers on line with their behaviour?

     

     

    Certainly seems so…..

  11. starry plough

     

     

    10:06 on 6 August, 2013

     

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    Do you speak for yer self – or are you the newly appointed CQN Devils advocate ?

     

     

    I must have missed that vote ?

     

     

    Ring any bells – CSC

  12. greenjedi

     

     

    A single example was the GB started the song (I Just Cant Get Enough). Then the club started playing it over the tannoy. Then they started selling a ‘Just Cant Get Enough’ T-shirt in the Celtic superstore (now out of stock).

     

     

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/sports-leisure/dp/B006JMZ4AY

     

     

    Also note many found the recent Samaras promotion with him emerging out of green smoke (i.e. as if from flares) quite ironic.

  13. In the Scotsman, Dundee manager of “yous buy the pies” fame advocates calm amid the raging torrent:

     

     

    “It’s a ticking time-bomb. Just find out whose name is on the title deeds?…Rangers will go down unless the fans stand up and say enough is enough. That’s the only way…Green’s comments were a disgrace. If my own directors had said that about me, I would have taken every one of them by the throat. You can have that in a private room but not in public…Green is a clown and always has been.”

  14. monteblanco

     

    10:05 on

     

    6 August, 2013

     

     

    Don’t let the fact that the club are required by the Data Protection Act to provide those details to the police if they are requested appropriately get in the way of your point.

  15. Twitter.

     

     

    So,the overdue OSCR report finds RFC Charity trustees in breach of legal duties,yet decides to take No action! #HUNbelievable

     

     

    This is Scotland – not one institution able & willing to hold them to the law, never mind the rules.

  16. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

     

    Is there not a law that prohibits stealing from charity in Scotland, must be Shirley..

     

     

    Do the police and the legal system consider the Orcs to be above the law??

  17. A Stor why are you so touchy? My response to you was not sarcastic. Relax. You mentioned that it was over your head.

  18. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    greenjedi

     

     

    09:59 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    You make good points …… the GB and the Celtic Board now need to sit down and reach a solution which allows the GB to continue to support their team / provide a fantastic atmosphere…… Within the H&S regulations …….. If I am honest, I have my reservations on the GB leadership, who SEEM to have an anti-Board agenda (like some others on here) ….. If they continue to make it personal / political, the friction will continue …..

     

     

    Hopefully the ill-conceived Law will be made more sensible..?

     

     

    I see keevins has stated that paul murray’s return to the shambles at sevco would be at the SFA’s discretion, having barred him from Directorship………. the farce continues, and they keep on digging a hole for themselves……. Sit back and enjoy ….!!!!!!!!

  19. A lot of current debate centres on atmosphere that GB generates at Celtic Park.

     

    Perhaps we should be questioning lack of atmosphere.

     

    One reason for dead atmosphere is that there is not a Henrik, Lubo or Naka whose every touch sparks anticipation of some piece of magic.

     

    Whether DD or PL like it or not, there are questions that they will have to face up to.

     

    Why shut 111 when for years, they have without comment allowed visiting fans to vandalise the place and spew out sectarian bile?

     

    Why are they resolutely burying their heads in the sand as corruption and double standards abound at the highest levels of the Scottish game.

     

    DD might like to fully explain what was so great about the history of a club that for three quarters of a century would not have employed him and even today you can count on one hand the number of his countrymen, regardless of creed that they have ever employed.

  20. KevJungle

     

     

    I speak for myself you small minded little grammar policeman and I must have missed the proof you were going to post about Brentford you oxygen thief..

  21. bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers

     

     

     

    Spot on mate but CHARITY thieves they are now known to be and that my friend gives me great satisfaction.

  22. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    starry plough

     

     

    10:10 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    Incredible ……. All the evidence is there, but no action ……….. Scotland’s Shame….

  23. A Stor Mo Chroi on

    weeminger:

     

     

    The structural steel design at Parkhead will have been modelled and stress tested to extreme standards, every scenario will have been HAZOP’ed prior to the design being signed off for construction. Part of the HAZOP would have been how would the steel stand up to the worst case scenario, bearing in mind Parkhead is built atop a coal mine.. Probably, at that end, worst case, a huns game, and they go three or four up and we come back to win it 7 – 4.

     

     

    The stand in the testimonial you reference would have been designed to a totally different set of design criteria and with at least a half a century sort of discipline knowledge and experience.

  24. alex thomson ‏@alextomo 21m

     

    @ChrisGraham76 from media and/or fans Chris. Fact. Deny it and you’re part of the problem, not solution.

  25. A Stor Mo Chroi on

    John O Neil:

     

     

    I’m not touchy, I don’t like posters who post stuff that is not self evident in meaning, then refuse to explain what they were on about when asked to clarity, like you did. So it would be courtesy if you were to explain your post.

  26. Steinreignedsupreme

     

     

    09:59 on 6 August, 2013

     

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    What me buying a paper has do do with the GB being sold-oot by the bored is beyond my comprehension I’m afraid.

     

     

    It’s the bored who kicked the Celtic support in the stones – no me buying a paper ! imo

     

    HH

  27. craigneuktommygemmell on

    Malarkey greenjedi

     

     

    Thanks malarkey, yes just can’t get enough although not “written by” the green brigade was introduced at Celtic games by them.

     

     

    Another one is the glasgow’s green and white chant, never saw an official Celtic tshirt with that on it before the chant started

  28. With regard to the Green Brigade – what’s done is done. They need to reflect on where to go from here. The rest of us need to ask how sanitised do we want our football?

     

     

    There probably is a valid point regarding the lateral movement regarding safety in seated areas. Plenty have called for standing areas. They can be safe. But for those who are afraid of collective cultural expressions, political comment and so on these areas are harder to ‘police’ so it will be hard to get it going.

     

     

    Maybe though that should be the direction of travel – demand for a standing area behind one of the goals.

  29. A stor I don’t think you need it explained again.I already did explain. I wish you a good morning.

  30. starry plough

     

     

    10:11 on 6 August, 2013

     

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    Sorry – no proof – just talk :)

     

     

    The GB were not to blame for ‘anything’ in Brentford according to the – talkers – I believe them – some scary folk in a pub as far as I heard.

  31. quonno – I think your question about why 7k OldCo Rangers were allowed to vandalise the stadium without repercussion for years while 111 gets shut is valid.

     

     

    Part of the answer you’ll get back of course is that safety officers and police etc were threatening to take away our license. However those same people would need to answer the same question regarding the behaviour of RFC supporters at Celtic park 2 or three times a year for the past however many years.