I continually read misleading interpretations about the alleged second contracts at Rangers. Rangers may, and almost certainly did, insist at the First Tier Tribunal that the letters in question were not contracts. This point is important to the tax authorities but completely irrelevant to the football authorities.
The SPL specifically:
“Impose a prohibition on players receiving payments for playing football or participating in an activity connected with football except where such payments are made in accordance with a form of contract approved by the SPL and require that all such contracts are submitted to the SPL within 14 days of being entered into”.
The SFA require:
“All payments, whether made by the club or otherwise, which are to be made to a player solely relating to his playing activities must be fully recorded within the relevant written agreement with the player prior to submission to this Association and/or the recognised football body of which his club is in membership.”
So, for clarity, side arrangements do not have to be part of a contract before they become subject to SFA and SPL regulations, but “payments… connected with football” or payments received by a player “solely relating to his playing activities must be fully recorded”, otherwise the player has been improperly registered and his team would be awarded a 3-0 defeat for each game he played.
The Sun’s landmark story on this issue claim’s one Rangers player was due £1200 appearance money per game, clearly “connected with football”.
In point 14 of his statement today, concerning Rangers being stripped of their disputed titles, Dave King said, “I am absolutely confident (now that I have a good sense of the true position) that this will not happen”.
The “true position” will be established by SPL inquiry. If they have all letters issued to players of the kind produced by The Sun, or given as evidence to the First Tier Tribunal, Rangers have no case to answer, but we have to wonder, if this is the case, why the inquiry?
I note the swift and robust defence issued by Sir David Murray against allegations levelled by former college Dave King. I also note the swift and robust defence issued by Sir David Murray against allegations levelled by former college Hugh Adam of side-contracts being issued to players.
Wait a minute, Sir David hasn’t uttered a word about Hugh Adam’s allegations!
I would like to be the first to congratulate St Johnstone on winning the League Cup in season 1999-2000.
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Remember the delay of the BBC in updating the SPL table to reflect the 10 point deduction? Got my reply today:
Reference CAS-1309655-NG6CN1
Thank you for contacting us.
Your comments were passed to the Head of News, who has asked that I forward his response as follows:
“The SPL league table was not updated to reflect Rangers’ deduction of 10 points due to a technical error with our programming which has now been rectified”.
Details of the BBC complaints process are available online at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/handle.shtml
Thank you, once again, for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
Michelle McGahan
BBC Complaints
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
As an infamous politician once uttered, “there will be no whytewash, at the big hoose.”
SFTB
Nice one
Breaking news from Murray Park: Rangers have now officially come out of administration after Duff & Phelps ceased trading as a result of outstanding monies due to them from Glasgow Rangers FC (in administration). It is rumoured that HMRC are now looking to appoint their own administrators, who are expected to actually do something in return for their £600 per person per hour.
This whole saga is getting like the tv show “lost”. Compulsive viewing at the start leading to needlessly convoluted in the middle and a WTF type of ending…signs are good though, nobody interested in a second series or a re-make.
Fellow internet bampots – Here on the internet we are not held to the same high standards of behaviour as the UK’s tabloid press. We can therefore engage in speculation, supposition and a whole heap of other mean and nasty things that would make uncomfortable reading for your average bear. To which end, I though I would conduct a small thought experiment.
Just suppose for one minute that Rangers (turnover £30m, expenditure £45m, debts £100m) were unable to meet its liabilities and liquidation proceedings were initiated. I know, wildly speculative, presumptious and dependent upon a host of zany assumptions. However, let’s just imagine for one moment that this happened. In such a scenario, I am led to believe, Rangers 2012 would apply for membership to the SPL. Apparently this logical continuation requires no wild speculation or zany assumptions and therefore automatically follows from the liquidation of Rangers FC. But what would need to happen before Rangers 2012 could apply for membership to the SPL?
1. Someone needs to set up a new football club.
2. It must be established to the comfort of the courts that this football club is not Rangers, and is therefore not liable for Rangers debts (the so-called “shaft the creditors” step).
3. This football club must appoint Fit & Proper directors, i.e. people who have not been directors of Rangers in the last 5 years.
4. Despite having no source of income or track record in the game, the club needs to source and agree contracts with sufficient professional footballers that it could satisfy the SFA and SPL that it could fulfil fixtures.
4. The football club would need somewhere to play. Perhaps it could buy Ibrox from the liquidator. Or perhaps not. Who knows?
5. The football club would need backroom staff and management, despite having no source of income or membership in any footballing bodies.
6. The football club would need to successfully apply for membership of the SFA having never played in a single match at any level of amateur or junior football.
7. The football club would have to do all of this before the SPL fixture computer starts churning away, probably some time in June.
That is starting to look like a lot of presumption, supposition and all round zaniness.
AweNaw (from previous thread)
Apologies if I’ve missed it,but your list should also include OSCR,the organisation who are investigating whether it’s ok to divert money meant to alleviate poverty among the world’s poorest to help pay the wages of millionaires instead.
Are we to assume that withey not whytie has stashed the cash….
St Mirren to issue a statement on thems?
WTF
p
ASonOfDan, they are fighting until the end.
RalphWaldoEllison, yes, the should-be watchers need to be watched.
gerryguk7, precedent. All occurrences of fielding ineligible players have been punished with a 3-0 defeat.
thomthethim, no comment.
SFFS, yes, a sneaky wee one.
god bless her majesty
We will probably need an atomic bomb to get rid of that lot…I can just see a radioactive Ibroke with Hun hordes in Orange and blue nuclear suits trying to sing through their gas masks…eleven cockroaches on the pitch…liquidised blue burgers sold from fallout shelters…they could keep their lecky bills down via glow in the night football without floodlights…games called off with Bikini Snow…Ibroke renamed Castle Bravo …but how long before the radioactive clouds gather over ibroke again?
s, revenue & customs
A lot of scunnered media people outside Murray Park at the moment. It’s Baltic in Milngavie at the moment – good enough for them.
St Mirren board of directors:
“You will realise there has been a great deal of speculation in the media surrounding the events at Rangers FC. Should it be required and only when the situation is absolutely clear at Rangers FC, any view of St Mirren FC Ltd would be taken by the board of directors…
St Mirren statement continued: “No speculative thought or decision shall come from St Mirren FC until the exact position at Rangers FC is known. If the board of directors of St Mirren FC be required to make any decisions they would decide the best way forward in the best interests of St Mirren FC and the Scottish Premier League…
deck chairs being arranged…
p
No news from Mordor today?
£600.00 per hour per person.
Any vacancies?
I don’t like the sound of that statement.
Mirren statement continued: “St Mirren FC hope however, that the current situation at Rangers FC can be resolved quickly, to the satisfaction of all parties concerned and in the best interests of Scottish football.”
?
Quite an interesting non statement from St Mirren there, why would they bother saying anything at all?
Unless they know the big L bomb is about to hit……
I think the Saints are just checking to see if the shysters from the south side owe them any money before they make a real statement.
obonfanti1888 on 7 March, 2012 at 15:45 said:
my thoughts too.
I await the statment from Greenock morton with baited breath.
p
St. Mirren are not one of the clubs represented on the SPL Board are they?
A wee slightly perverse thought.
Celtic need Rangers.
Parkhead sectarian bigots need Ibrox sectarian bigots to feed from.
No Rangers. No Ibrox sectarian bigots. Parkhead sectarian bigots die of starvation.
No Rangers = Scotland’s Shame eradicated.
As I said just a perverse wee thought.
Well done Paul 67, the post is absolutely crystal clear.
Scenes, at the soon to be new Leisure complex for the posh folk of Milngavie, including some ex footballers using their passport to leisure cards, seem a bit moribund at the moment………is this whats called a hiatus !
HMT
HH
quonno on 7 March, 2012 at 15:48 said:
perverse indeed
pigalle
Bhoycott St Mirren?
St Mirren board of directors:
St Mirren statement continued: “No speculative thought or decision shall come from St Mirren FC until the exact position at Rangers FC is known. If the board of directors of St Mirren FC be required to make any decisions they would decide the best way forward in the best interests of St Mirren FC and the Scottish Premier League…
“You will realise there has been a great deal of speculation in the media surrounding the events at Rangers FC. Should it be required and only when the situation is absolutely clear at Rangers FC, any view of St Mirren FC Ltd would be taken by the board of directors
St Mirren statement continued: “St Mirren FC hope however, that the current situation at Rangers FC can be resolved quickly, to the satisfaction of all parties concerned and in the best interests of Scottish football.”
…
That is the most bizzare statement i’ve read.
Did Chick Dung write it? He is a St Mirren fan after all………………..
L I Q U I D A T I O N
boom
quonno on 7 March, 2012 at 15:48 said:
A wee slightly perverse thought.
Celtic need Rangers.
Parkhead sectarian bigots need Ibrox sectarian bigots to feed from.
No Rangers. No Ibrox sectarian bigots. Parkhead sectarian bigots die of starvation.
No Rangers = Scotland’s Shame eradicated.
As I said just a perverse wee thought.
Are you for real??????????
Hail hail
Meeting called at Murray Park for all staff.
CHEERIO CHEERIO!!
St Mirren’s position seems to be that they will take a position when required to do so.
Hardly earth shattering stuff.
setting free the bears on 7 March, 2012 at 15:32 said:
green Tide
“Has G Withey done a Maxwell? ”
Naw, but he was last seen being offered a lift on Bill Struth’s boat.
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Brilliant. Made me laugh out loud.
playfusbal4dguilders on 7 March, 2012 at 15:42 said:
St Mirren board of directors:
“You will realise there has been a great deal of speculation in the media surrounding the events at Rangers FC. Should it be required and only when the situation is absolutely clear at Rangers FC, any view of St Mirren FC Ltd would be taken by the board of directors…
St Mirren statement continued: “No speculative thought or decision shall come from St Mirren FC until the exact position at Rangers FC is known. If the board of directors of St Mirren FC be required to make any decisions they would decide the best way forward in the best interests of St Mirren FC and the Scottish Premier League…
deck chairs being arranged…
p
HAHA I thought you had made that up.I cant believe thats an official statement.
HH
whats that statement about ?
nobody has asked st mirren
any question
St Mirren statement reading between the lines……….
as you know this club has been up for sale for some time (where have I heard that before) we are currently being tapped up as to a proposed merger with a nearby club, but cannot make any further comment till they are flushed away….
HH
It’s obvious from the St mirren statement that “the best interests of Scottish Football” = the quick demise of the huns.
Obvious tae me!
flushed away like a wee jobbie
You will remember that Celtic donated £10k to PoppyScotland appeal in November 2011. Rangers didn’t make a donation but allowed Poppy Scotland to collect at Ibrox. Rangers also sold jerseys with Poppies on with all proceeds going to PoppyScotland. This is what was raised:
Poppy Scotland collected £3920 in donations & raised further £2124 from poppy shirt sales.
So RFC as club provided nothing, their supporters donated just over £6k. Quintesential Brits my behind.
Mort