This morning’s article in the Daily Record is not a work of fiction. They reported that SFA chief executive Stewart Regan’s “bid to deliver a broad consensus over the way forward also involved discussions over the appellate tribunal’s transfer embargo on Rangers.”
In short, the SFA discussed changing their rules to disband the Independent Appellate Panel process before instructing Lord Carloway to sit in response to the Court of Session’s rejection of his previous judgement.
With two further Independent Judicial Tribunals still to sit in judgement on the actions of Rangers, for the illegal registration of players and non-payment of social taxes during the EBT era, the SFA will also subvert these rules before ‘Rangers’ are expelled from the Association.
After the meeting Regan left for his summer vacation without instructing Lord Carloway to convene the Appellate Panel.
That’s not all.
The scam to establish an SLP 2 in order to allow the SFA and SPL to co-opt ‘Rangers’ into that league is what the governing bodies have planned for your game.
If rules are changed AFTER a club is found guilty and in receipt of a penalty in order to nullify that penalty the game in this country is broke, ethically and financially. Having established independent judicial panels to deal with serious rule breaches the SFA cannot do Rangers bidding without removing all judicial oversight.
We’re back to the days of George Peat walking in and out of hearings for the Celtic manager.
Most disturbingly of all, YOU are the cash cow for this outrageous enterprise. With Rangers gone from the SPL Celtic fans bring all the commercial and television income into the game, and are set to buy more away ground tickets than all other clubs put together.
You are expected to continue to cough up for tickets to Tynecastle, Rugby Park etc, and subscribe to ESPN and Sky Sports – money which will divvied up among SPL 1 and SPL 2 teams, as well as they rest of the Scottish Football League clubs, to compensate for them missing out on a ‘Rangers’ game.
You will also pay more money for those tickets than any other group of fans in the league. Why don’t you just write a cheque to Kilmarnock, Falkirk or Cowdenbeath today?
This nonsense will not bring another £1 into the game, all it will do is redistribute money from your pocket to clubs who care nothing for you. Partick Thistle yesterday released a statement on their site, “We believe Scottish football needs to be restructured, financial distribution needs to be fairer for all clubs”.
“Financial distribution needs to be fairer”! Patrick Thistle get to keep all their ticket sales, commercial and other income. By “fairer” they mean they want some of your money. If you agree with them, write them a cheque, but if you disagree, you better figure out what to do next.
Thoughts that some great victory has been achieved are premature. Prepare for the next instalment.
Our domestic competition is, at best, uninspiring. This disgusting land-grab for your cash will destroy our ability to compete in Europe, and it’s not just the senior team who will suffer. The Celtic youth system costs millions to operate each year, don’t fantasise that it will survive intact.
Celtic currently employ 27 Scotland youth internationals. They are almost single-handedly carrying the future of our national team. This attempt to bleed your club dry will devastate all areas, with subsequent consequences for the Scotland team.
It’s not often I’ve told you the Daily Record have nailed a story but this one is on the money (your money). I’m at a loss as to what to do next.
We cannot accept this.
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I´ve been thinking about this situation in Sconny bottland with the club formerly known as rangers( no capital arrs in this post) & really when you think about it does any of you guys really think you´re gonnae drive the Hun ootae Scotland?? It´s never gonnae be your country or my country.
Scotland is the most bigotted anti Catholic country that´s ever been or ever will be.
So really guys ah think we should go fur the English 3rd division then work our way up
then show them how to play football the GLASGOW CELTIC way.
Up the glasgow Celtic hail hail
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 24 June, 2012 at 02:45 said:
timbhoy,in spain,
I think you might have picked 16 roads up wrong, try reading his advise again
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Sorry Neil but I was only trying to help but I don´t like people takin the piss or maybe I´m missing something ??
timbhoy..,
I think 16 roads was being self deprieciating rather than having a go at you, as I said have another read
Whatever Neil( that´s ma boy´s name),
Anyway I was just wanting to make a wee donation for poor wee Oscar that´s all.
FFs I´ve been at Celtic Park since aboot 1953.
anyway i know what you´re saying & you´re right but there´s nowhere there I can make a donation from spain.
HH
THE EXILED TIM on 24 June, 2012 at 00:23 said:
Life in Scotland will be better without the Huns, they are corrupt cheats.
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Yes, most defo.
They have killed fitba in scotland. will be killed for a long time because of the,m.
Please let them die……………..quickly
timbhoy in spain,
donate the next time your back, or get family to do it, dont beat yourself up about it.
anyway its only me thats allowed to misinterpret and be unreasonable on here, stop cutting ma grass :oD)))
clunks on 24 June, 2012 at 03:09 said:
THE EXILED TIM on 24 June, 2012 at 00:23 said:
Life in Scotland will be better without the Huns, they are corrupt c
Ah wid so hope yer right son but Scotland is probably the most beautiful country in the world but it´s well acknowledged outside the feckin place that it´s the most corrupt country in the world because of it´s hatred of all things Catholic & Irish & if you can find 1 person to disagree with me I will buy you Champagne all night.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 24 June, 2012 at 03:16 said:
timbhoy in spain,
Neil,Ah widnae beat anybody up,especially not myself.
I´m a good guy ,I love Celtic & any guys that are trying for a good cause & i´d like to help.
timbhoy..,
hail hail
anyroadup,
bawbaws time,
night night god bless n
hail hail
clunks on 24 June, 2012 at 03:09 said:
THE EXILED TIM on 24 June, 2012 at 00:23 said:
Life in Scotland will be better without the Huns, they are corrupt c
Ah wid so hope yer right son but Scotland is probably the most beautiful country in the world but it´s well acknowledged outside the feckin place that it´s the most corrupt country in the world because of it´s hatred of all things Catholic & Irish & if you can find 1 person to disagree with me I will buy you Champagne all night.
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be fun looking though………
Scotland, especially the west coast (where I am) is….. irretrievably passed redemption.
a long time a go.
The SFA has its hierarchy in the west if Scotland and is therefore irretrievably passed redemption.
Hey Neil ,see efter Feck know´s how long of fightin the Parasites it´s a pleasure to talk tae a guy like yerself who does a lot of charity work for the undr privileged so here´s ta ye Neil wha´s like ye,
Gui few & they´re aw deid.( said the Shan Van Vocht)
To avoid a criminal offence taking place, Mr Green, The Scottish Media, The SFA and SPL should be aware of the following:
The law prohibits the re-use of a name of a company previously gone into liquidation, (section 216 of the Insolvency Act 1986). A prohibited name is a name by which the liquidated company was known at any time in the 12 months immediately before liquidation: whether this is a registered name at Companies House, or its trading name, or any name so similar to its registered or trading name as to suggest an association with the liquidated company. It is a criminal offence to contravene section 216 of the Insolvency Act. Anyone contravening the Act may be prosecuted by the Department of Business Innovation and Skills and could go to prison if convicted. In addition, under section 217 of the Act, you could be made personally liable for the debts incurred during the time that you were involved in managing a business using a prohibited name, even if it was a limited company. This could happen whether you are prosecuted under section 216 of the Act or not.
Ally McCoist should be aware of the following:
Even if you are not contravening Section 216 of the Act, you will be personally responsible for the debts of the company if you are involved in managing a business and you act on instructions from someone you know who is contravening Section 216. This is because you are helping someone to commit a criminal offence by contravening Section 216.
Reference: http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/pdfs/guidanceleafletspdf/reuseofcompanyname.pdf
Good morning from a wet dreich Morayshire.
Anybody got the Oscar donation text no?
HH
SIALF
Buongiorno.
Making up the rules as they go along, surely this cannot be allowed to go ahead?
Is there any feeling that the start of the season will be postponed? There was mentions of it the other week but is it likely to happen?
Ciao
Dear sweet lord!
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/carve-up-would-see-spl-clubs-say-no-to-newco-rangers-but-soften-the-blow-for-all-concerned-1-2373102
skyisalandfill on 24 June, 2012 at 06:41 said:
Dear sweet lord!
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/carve-up-would-see-spl-clubs-say-no-to-newco-rangers-but-soften-the-blow-for-all-concerned-1-2373102
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2010 Never Again
How about a cut & paste instead of giving them the hits
WHEN it comes to agenda-peddling, the G20 summit in Mexico last week couldn’t hold a candle to Scottish football. Our game appears full of selfless souls attempting to “save” it right now.
Scottish Premier League chairman are seeking to save the spirit of fairness by denying top flight entry to a Rangers newco. Meanwhile, a backroom deal between the Scottish Football League, Scottish Football Association and the SPL to parachute the Ibrox new club into the First Division, and so save the Sky television deal and “rescue” our national pastime from financial oblivion, is gathering pace. That was confirmed last night with an SFA statement on behalf of all three bodies that essentially was the dressing up of a carve-up. A carve-up that, if it just so happens to serve the self-interest of most of the 42 senior clubs, will merely be a happy accident, of course.
POSITIVES
Dundee: Likely to be promoted to top flight to replace Rangers
Scottish Football League: More say in running of game and can use leverage to introduce play-offs into SPL
Glasgow Cup: Old trophy could be revived as an excuse to stage two Old Firm games Non-Old Firm fans: Used their power to force change
Henry McLeish: Author of report to improve Scottish football will see adoption of his recommendations
SFA: Stewart Regan takes charge of previously disjointed league set-up
NEGATIVES
Rangers: the club: Relegated to the second tier, denied European football for three years and also facing possible suspension from Scottish Cup
Rangers: the players: Stuck in limbo in the prime of their careers
Sky TV: Losing out on four SPL Old Firm games, the crown jewels of their Scottish portfolio
SPL: TV money to be reduced along with attendances
Celtic: Change to voting structure could see Old Firm lose their power of SPL veto Dunfermline Athletic: Relegated and chances of winning promotion reduced by Rangers’ likely presence in second tier
The statement told of a “positive meeting” on Friday night “out of which the two league bodies will engage in a wider consultation with their member clubs on the key principles of reconstruction outlined in the Henry McLeish review of Scottish football”. And so seek to create a “happy ever after” for the country’s football with one league body in the senior game, a promotion/relegation play-off between the SPL and SFL First Division, a single financial distribution model and a pyramid system “with the potential for relegation and promotion to the fourth tier”. All principles that have been simmering away for years but which, wouldn’t you know, are suddenly being blow-torched to the boil as the old Rangers evaporates.
Against this backdrop, it is surely no coincidence that SPL sides seem emboldened over saying “no to newco” when they cast their vote on the issue on 4 July, the reconstituted Rangers needing seven of 11 clubs to approve their admission. Or that Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov has spoken of it being right the Ibrox newco starts in a “lower league”, as opposed to saying “the bottom division”, while his Dundee United counterpart Stephen Thompson has stated Rangers require “punishment” rather than stating they should follow the path of start-up clubs. No SPL member, including Celtic, really wants to cast aside the cash cow that is a team playing out of Govan. These clubs have been bounced into taking the debarment by the threat of mass supporter desertion. Now, while gerrymandering is likely to allow these clubs only to lose the revived Rangers for a season, and not, in the process, the backing of Sky, they can sell their stand as them having stood up for sporting integrity. Publicly, the SFL will be required to do their dirty work in co-opting a new member, a new club – as Charles Green’s Sevco consortium-cum-company that currently can’t even register a football name or football players should eventually become – and placing them in the highest, instead of lowest, tier in their set-up.
However, one SFL source insists his organisation is not being naively used. “Who is using who?” he said this week. On that question he pointed to the concessions the SFL is seeking to extract for “ripping up their rule book”. These would be play-offs between the First Division and SPL in time for next season, and a greater distribution of centralised revenues all the way down the leagues – starting with a generous slice of the revenue retained from Sky through showing Rangers’ games in the First Division. The notion that the SFL are making some Faustian pact on behalf of the Ibrox club is not one the SFL source recognises. “We are not placing commercial considerations before the sport. In terms of the play-offs and redistribution we are actually looking for greater fairness across the entirety of Scottish football,” he stated. “And if Sky pulled out, as we have heard they will if Rangers are in the Third Division, how does that serve anyone’s interests? We are taking account of the greater good.”
The First Division compromises over a new Rangers would suit the ends of most clubs. We seem to be moving away from the principle at stake being that Green’s Rangers should be treated as would any smaller top-flight club that reformed post-liquidation, such lessers guaranteed to be sent to the Third Division to start again. If SPL members skirt around that then they can put the newco Rangers in the dock over the oldco’s malfeasance. Both in terms of the non-disclosure of payments to players charge that could see trophies won by Rangers between 2001 and 2011 rescinded and the SFA’s 12-month signing embargo. That was successfully appealed to the civil courts but could yet bring them a suspension from the game, or expulsion from next season’s Scottish Cup, now it has been bounced back to the SFA’s judicial panel. SPL clubs want retribution over the reputational damage Rangers have inflicted on the Scottish game in UEFA and FIFA circles by not respecting football law. More significantly, with no Ibrox team the other 11 SPL sides would be able to vote down Celtic and so change the 11-1 voting structure on the split of centralised revenues. They could also pursue they creation of their own television channel as a platform for screening SPL football, a growing hobby horse of Hearts and Hibernian, among others.
In terms of most SFL clubs, especially those in the First Division, the new Rangers starting at the second tier is a win-win. As such, the deal is therefore being presented as a fait accompli. Yet, the SFL are understood to require that the Rangers-inspired changes be approved at an emergency general meeting by 75 per cent of their members, which would equate to 23 of their 30 clubs. That may not be as straightforward as has been imagined. Essentially, the battleground over an Ibrox newco could be about to move on to the SFL, with supporters of Partick Thistle already having voiced a boycott threat if the latest Rangers rescue plan is activated. Ultimately, however, such views may not gain the same traction as they did among the followers of top-flight clubs. That there could be a general willingness to “judge the plan in the round” is suggested by the fact Livingston’s chief executive Ged Nixon expresses such an opinion. For, if any club is entitled to feel a sense of outrage at the SFL pulling out the stops to see a club assembled from its post-liquidation assets “relegated” only one division, it is the West Lothian side.
Three years ago this summer, they exited administration through a CVA [Company Voluntary Arrangement] which required HMRC’s approval. They jumped through hoops to do so because they were then told by the SFL that would allow them to remain in the First Division. Instead, the SFL sent them down to the bottom tier, stating, Nixon recalls, “our heinous crimes were so severe”. The Livingston chief says his club will not “prejudge” what could happen with the new Rangers but will keep a watching brief on whether they are treated differently by the SFL, and whether the SFA fall into line with that treatment, as they did in refusing the West Lothian club’s appeal over their two division demotion. However, Nixon, whose club have worked their way back up to the First Division at great cost, also maintains Livingston will consider the Rangers plan in terms of “what is best for Scottish football”.
“Our board are sincere in that view,” he says. “I thought Charles Green’s statement about judging the situation on the basis on what is financially the right thing to do rather than any sporting considerations or passions contained hollow words. At the same time, though, I don’t know how Scottish football would benefit if Rangers were put in the Third Division and there was a risk of losing the club’s massive support. We will need to see what is being offered to SFL clubs in return for changing the rulebook, but we must be careful not to sell our souls for an extra £50,000, or whatever.
“If the transfer embargo remains in place and there is the mass exodus of players from Ibrox, and they face a possible points penalty there would be no guarantee Rangers would win the First Division. What then?” If Green’s Rangers finished third and did not win a play-off, we could probably expect the SPL to be enlarged to 14 teams. If they were fifth and didn’t even make a play-off, the way this saga is being played out then all of a sudden a 16-team top flight would be championed as “the way ahead” for the Scottish game.
That’s the scotsmans article from today above.
falkirkbhoy on 24 June, 2012 at 06:56 said:
That’s the scotsmans article from today above.
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Thanks for that.
Thai Tim on 24 June, 2012 at 04:46 said:
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Well said!
Spread the word. This needs to find its way to a wider audience
Morning,
FPLG has a cheek blasting the players fir kidding the fans on.
Niw many times did he defend Whyte saying what a great guy he was and he had rangers best interests and long term future at heart KNOWING it was all going wrong.
Nugget…
Billy Dodds don’t take my titles away
I don’t want this to sound like a sob story but I had never heard about EBTs then. That title was won with sweat, blood and guts.
My league winner’s medal is up at the house, along with the rest. I have a B&Q Cup medal, a First Division winners medal, two League Cup winners medals, a Scottish Cup winners medal and an SPL medal, which is my most treasured one, because it was my first and only SPL title. I had just gone to Ibrox from Dundee United halfway through the season and I gave everything. I remember we were seven points ahead going into an Old Firm match just before the winter break, and Mark Viduka scored at Parkhead. I equalised to keep it at seven, and we went on to win the title by 21 points. I don’t care what the SPL tell me, they can’t just decide all that is null and void.
At the end of the day if they want to take it away, they’ll take it away, but I will be devastated. There is no guarantee that any titles which are stripped will be awarded to somebody else and the matter may now be referred to an independent commission, after lawyers Harper Macleod decided there was a case to answer over the club’s use of EBTs from 1999 onwards. But there has to be a conflict of interest if other SPL clubs are playing a part in the decision.
With Rangers on 54 championships and Celtic on 43, a 10 or 14-title swing would change things dramatically in terms of who has historically been the most successful club in Scotland. Of course the clubs will be looking at overall totals and things like that, but the players won’t be.
I don’t think players such as Viduka and Lubo Moravcik will be wanting a league winners medal for a season where they were beaten by 21 points. Individually I don’t think the players would want it. I am not just saying this but I wouldn’t want a winners medal 12 years later by default. I would be saying “forget about it”.
Of course, if it is proved that titles were won fraudulently, and the club gained an unfair advantage, then the authorities have to act, but they have to find the right punishment. This is new territory. If the EBT court case is lost, then it should be the club who are punished. It was nothing to do with the individual players. They went there in good faith to do a job of work.
Dodds of the BBC says keep everybody happy………………………..?
I said in last week’s column that this is the time to restructure the Scottish game and I stand by that. The proposed solution whereby the SPL and SFL merge, and Rangers end up in the second tier of the Scottish game, is a mechanism to try to keep everybody happy, because it could be the death knell of Scottish football if a newco Rangers are sent down to the Third Division. A lot of fans might not like it but at least this way people are trying to protect the integrity of the game by ensuring there is some kind of reasonable punishment while safeguarding Scottish football financially. The only problem is it seems to have taken a club going into crisis mode for people to do what is best for Scottish football.
A football opinion from Dodds that is truly laughable in its stupidity, according to the BBC expert Scotland will beat England when the internationals start again??? although it most probably will be a 2nd/3 rd choice England team which turns up in August
We are improving and there is no chance of England running over the top of us. Usually you will see five or six players drop out for an August friendly but this one might be different.
McCoists’ comments regarding players and TUPE really do sum him up.
What an odious man. Demanding loyalty from players who have gone for 3 months on 25% of their agreed wage. Threatening them with court action unless they lash themselves to the mysterious “Sevco” company – a company with no UEFA license and no agreed place in any league set up.
And the hypocrisy! Ally was ready to walk only a few days ago when his mate Wattie looked like he might be on the verge of his own heist. Where was his loyalty then?
Green is – along with Whyte and Murray – the unacceptable face of a corrupt, cowboy capitalism which sadly is so prevalent in the UK these days. Regulations and laws mean nothing to these guys. People’s careers and livelihoods mean nothing. All that matters is the quick buck.
That McCoist is aligning himself with this brutal form of management is appalling IMHO, and I look forward to opprobrium being heaped on him by the Scottish business and sporting press…
Good morning from a cloudy Clayton Park in Fife
7 players walking away and McMoisty says they are cheating the club
What about his club cheating everyone else?
Time to bring down the SFA and start again
Keep the Faith
Hail Hail
ItaliaBhoy
The wee fat odious one is definitely a “hare and hounds” man.
He’s looking after himself, first and last.
Estadio Nacional on 24 June, 2012 at 06:28 said:
Is there any feeling that the start of the season will be postponed? There was mentions of it the other week but is it likely to happen?
We are through the looking glass now. Clearly the authorities are prepared to ignore or bend any rule to help Sevco, and I suspect if it comes to it that will mean postponing the start of the season too.
Can I sue awnonninutjob under any obscenity law for rcently hotlnkiing a video of a large deposit being flushed away? It must have been 3 or 4 days ago and I’m still not over it. Sick, SICK man.
Paul67, the fine Mr Brennan. I’ve seen this idiot and accuse and abuse his way through your blog over a number of years and quickly suspected he a designated ‘bad cop’ for ‘artistic’ effect. Maybe your own Alter Ego? Please tell me this guy is banned.
Thai Tim on 24 June, 2012 at 04:46 said:
That post should be put in comments piece on the Scotsman/Herald articles on a regular basis as it seems the sports? writers in Scotland’s broadsheet papers need educated
To all the hun abnegators:
Where’s your history and 5 stars gone?
I can’t understand why the Tennents logo is still there?!
I see the new ‘fix’ is subject to considerable hard sell. The chosen moral analysis entirely utilitarian in nature; the ‘greater good’ of Scottish football as a whole.
The plan for an SPL parachute was, until recently, being driven with the same ratonale and apparent imperatives. Unfortunately for the hunnish establishment, their ‘utility’ hit the Kantian rocks of the fans insistence on justice.
Lets hope the fans of Scotland’s lower league clubs prove of similar fortitude.
We don’t need no stinking NewCo…
Posted earlier:
Charles Green reminds me of somebody…. Ronnie Biggs
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ItaliaBhoy 08:14
Cheers, its looking that way. Home last two weeks in August, hope to catch more than just the CL qualifiers.
EN
Kevin’s and Waddell both laying it on thick in today’s Mail,,,pathetic really!!!
I wish they would just do wht has to be done,,,,and send them to hell!!!
Hail hail
Morning Celts
It’s looking like the football authorities will do everything possible to minimise the punishment of what they see as the old/ new co.
The thing is, servco are a brand new potential football team, they must apply to join the football league as a place becomes a available, let them apply along with the other wannabees.
Additionally if the league structure changes in double quick time to accommodate a newly joined club, then Scottish football is finished, the corruption from within will finally destroy it.
HH
Disturbing news this morning that Rhys McCabe has received death threats on social media sites for having the audacity to invoke his legal right under Employment Law (TUPE) and not to transfer his “contract” to Sevoc, a certain individual in yesterdays media called any such act a lack of respect, apparently it would be immoral, that certain individual should be aware of two things, morals like the old rangers don’t pay debts, he should also be aware that the lunatic fringe follow follow his words, like his previous ramblings he has put someone’s health and well being at risk, the cheeky chappie has become a very dangerous chappie,
it will come as no surprise to many of us that the supporters of the said old club who appear to have transferred their allegiances under TUPE to Sevco have also transferred with them their unsurpassed dignity.
Che….
…..he brought it on himself……..he’s a big lad……he should deal with it.
Jabba’s a fat fud.
The boul’ Billy Dodds, eh?
I used to think he was okay, hunned-up but semi sensible with an insightful opinion on playing fitba’. He could spot a player and was reasonably eloquent in delivering a players perspective on the scottish game.
I even met him once, briefly and found him to be personable and affable.
His most recent outburst on the tainted titles though is disappointing and betrays that most orcic of traits : the refusal to play by the natural rules of common decency, the disregard for anything that isn’t self-serving and a determination to avoid any sort of contrition when caught.
The real joke tho’ is that despite his previous admissions he’s still given a public platform to talk pish.
( As the rains have stopped am away out to the garden to to work off my stress on the “lantern damaged” Taxus baccata and escalonia…….)
:)
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarummmmph!