Stewart Regan is today telling the media that only one club wants a review of what happened at Rangers during recent SFA president Campbell Ogilvie’s tenure as a director of the club. I think we can amend that slightly to read: only one LEAGUE of 42 professional clubs want a review of what happened.
It is utterly disingenuous for the SFA chief executive to portray the SPFL’s request for a review as a one-club issue. Regan is seeking protection in the amateur clubs’ numbers, ALL OF WHOM receive patronage from the SFA, against the wishes of the country’s only professional league.
You will remember how Sepp Blatter used the power of patronage with tiny Fifa nations to secure his grip on due process. Fifa money was spent and magnificent stadiums built where football scarcely had a foothold at the whim of Blatter, who enjoyed unquestioning support from micro-nations’ Associations.
When a chief executive uses the numbers in the amateur game, to outweigh the wishes of the 42 club professional league, for a review into what took place while a recent past president was a director at an errant club, you have all the ingredients for an abuse of patronage.
Stewart, all we’re asking for is a review, don’t pretend the country’s only professional league structure doesn’t exist.
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CQN went behind the scenes with BT Sport at Hamilton on Friday evening and this is all covered in the new CQN Podcast which is out today and includes an interview with Chris Sutton…
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Obviously I didn’t mean Huns. I meant Hibs.
MWD
BABASONICOS71 on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2017 7:02 AM
Cheers for that mate, I’m sure he is.
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Well I got my 10 wrong picks in a row, so its onwards I go to 11.
4231.
Craigie G.
Tony R .
Big Mick
Jozo the hunskelper.
Paddys Bro wee KT
Broonie n Ollie
Wee KT’ s bro Paddy
Streach
Sinky.
Griff.
High scoring game , my heart says Celtic to win by one in a five goal thriller.
F what the brain says never listen to it before and i ain’t starting now.
H.H
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KTF
NOPE !,
No runners today for trainer D.McCain however,
Trainer Clive Cox ( whos stable is also going very well recently) has 3 runners.
Leicester
2.25 SHEPHERD MARKET @ 9/2.
4.25 GRAPHITE STORM @ 7/4.
4.55 GHAZAN @ 25/1.
i will do a DOUBLE on the first 2 horses at 9/2 and 7/4.
I will also do an each way TREBLE on all 3 runners, due to the last one being priced at 25/1.
I wouldnt normally consider backing any horse each way at odds of 9/2 and 7/4….BUT throw in the one at 25/1….. well thats a different matter ?
I will only be having a couple of modest bets on the above. Best of luck should anyone decide to do likewise ?
HH
MIT,MID or MiG (as it will be when you jet into Glasgow)
If your u want to email me at
blantyretim1@aol.co.uk I can pass on Almore’s telephone number (if that’s ok with Almore)
Going into meetings this morning but free most of afternoon so should be plenty of time for you bhoys to get in touch pre match
I don’t attend away games, so I don’t really have the right to speak on the subject. However, after hearing a summary of the back pages of the newspapers on RS this morning, I feel every Celtic supporter has to do whatever they can for the Club. Imo, that includes boycotting away games. It would also include boycotting all SFA games of any sort.
Big Jimmy
This is the future entries list for D McCain
http://www.skysports.com/racing/form-profiles/trainer/15823/d-mccain-jnr/future-entries
Good luck mucker
Sister in law in Bristol today an this evening
Any pubs likely to show the match?
Big ask tonight – Neymar best winger in the world – Kylian Mbappe the new Pele – but who knows – CELTIC PARK IS SPECIAL!
Morning Bhoys, no more sleeps.
The Sun is shining.
Here we go again we’re on in the road again…………………..
KLV
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Stewart Regan full Q&A as he opens up on Rangers, Peter Lawwell and Campbell Ogilvie
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Stewart Regan stood strong at Hampden yesterday as he defended the SFA’s decision not to pursue an independent review into the financial collapse of Rangers.
In a no-holds barred interview, Regan dismissed the conspiracy theorist and insists a raft of law lords and QCs have been integral to the decision-making process of the past few years.
Regan was confident and assured in a wide ranging question and answer session as he told Record Sport’s Gary Ralston the SFA have acted entirely independently every step of the way.
He insists a line must now be drawn in the sand for Scottish football to move forward and insists there’s no appetite for a review from any other club than Celtic.
However, he candidly admitted the debate will continue for years – and knows he will never satisfy all fans who claim the SFA’s failure to act amounts to a cover-up…
The SFA and SPFL have been criticised by Children’s Commissioner Tam Baillie
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Stewart Regan dismisses ‘ludicrous’ conspiracy theories as he sets out why SFA won’t join review
Q: What do you have to hide by refusing Celtic’s request, via the SPFL board and on behalf of all 42 league clubs, for an independent review?
S.R: The decision has been taken as a board and having considered all the facts on the table. Since 2011 the board have relied heavily on advice from four QCs and three law lords, supporting us on that journey. We also have two independent directors on our board. Independence has been at its heart and we feel there is enough belief around our board that the decisions have been made with the best interests of Scottish football at heart.
Q: So there’s no appetite in the game for a full review?
S.R: Other than one, we haven’t had a single member asking for this to be undertaken. The fact we have put in place such an independent process since 2011, including independent directors on our board, has significantly moved on the decision making since before I came to Scotland when it was old fashioned committees.
We are in a very different place now. Four QC’s, three law lords, significant amount of financial and legal investment, scrutiny at every step of the way. We have got to the end of the process in our mind. We have made decisions on all the key areas and the one area we feel is still in need of further consideration is from comments made in the Craig Whyte trial relating to the (UEFA) licensing decision of 2011. That has been referred to the compliance officer and is now a live case.
Rangers were granted a UEFA license in 2011
Q: Do you suspect we will never draw a line under this?
S.R: It would be really difficult to convince those who believe in conspiracies there isn’t a conspiracy at play. My pushback to them is do we really think that four QCs, three law lords, all the club execs, all the independent panel members are all part of some huge conspiracy? We have spent too long looking through the rear view mirror and we’ve failed to look at the road ahead.
We have to be able to move on. We won’t get closure in the eyes of some parts of Scottish football – some fans, some stakeholders, won’t ever get closure.
This will be one of those topics that will be talked about for years to come. There isn’t a right or a wrong answer. It’s a judgment call and a group of guys around the boardroom table with independent legal scrutiny have come to the conclusion this is where we draw a line.
Lord Nimmo Smith will head the SPL panel
Lord Nimmo Smith
Q: How much has been spent on your legal fees?
S.R: Hundreds of thousands of pounds.
Q: Celtic figures would have been on SFA boards at the time decisions were taken in the past?
S.R: Our senior clubs have all been on the various committees and bodies that exist in Scottish football so they have been party to those decisions. And they have also been party to the improvements made.
Q: How many sit on the SFA board and was the decision not to grant an independent review carried by a majority vote or was it unanimous?
S.R: There are eight people on the board and seven were at the meeting. It works through collective responsibility. We don’t publish every decision or score or vote, that’s how boards work.
Q: Are there ramifications for Rangers newco if oldco found guilty of a breach with regards the UEFA license?
S.R: The range of sanctions could – I stress could – be linked with how the five-way agreement comes into play in the future. ( Record Sport understands part of the five way agreement was for Rangers newco to accept liability for issues arising under the jurisdiction of oldco as part of the transfer of SFA membership).
Q: Celtic are asking why there is no review into the Big Tax Case when the SFA are willing to look at the Wee Tax Case?
S.R: We haven’t had any new information raised with us by member clubs. If they have new information or evidence they feels falls into our jurisdiction then we will deal with that.
Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell
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Q: Are you surprised Celtic haven’t provoked their own investigation via the SPFL?
S.R: Celtic have the ability to do that through their own organisation, if they want to do so.
Q: Celtic’s statement said that if there isn’t an inquiry, it would call into question the SFA’s accountability, transparency and leadership. How do you react?
S.R: We have listened to everybody. That’s not to diminish the points made by Celtic. I have a lot of respect for Peter (Lawwell) and I understand why he’s doing what he’s doing. He has a fiduciary duty to do what is the best interests of Celtic.
Q: Is your relationship with him now damaged?
S.R: I have a great relationship with Peter. We actually sat at the Champions League draw while all these letters were being exchanged. He understands my position. I am acting in the best interests of the game.
Q: Is this really all about title stripping?
S.R: I would actually say Celtic have gone to great lengths in their letters to emphasise it is not about title stripping, it is about process and learning. For some people out there, some stakeholders, groups, fans, maybe title stripping IS at the heart of it. But that matter has been discussed by the SPFL and a line has been drawn under it by the SPFL and they have moved on.
Our board’s opinion is we have had independence all the way. Are we going to have an independent review of an independent review? Where do you draw the line? It has been independent from day one.
Q: Will it ever go away?
S.R: The word that’s been used, ‘closure’? I don’t think it is realistic, I don’t think it is something people will ever be happy with. There are those who want an outcome that can’t be delivered. We’ve gone as far as we can.
Q: Was any part of SFA’s board’s decision-making informed by what might happen if you granted a full review into Rangers EBTs? You can only assume they might want other historic issues addressed?
S.R: That’s not how boards work. Boards deal in facts and information and advice. We treat all our members in exactly the same way. You cannot consider ‘what if’? There are too many what ifs in Scottish football. You deal in the here and now.
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SFA men Stewart Regan and Campbell Ogilvie flank then FIFA president Sepp Blatter (Image: Jeff Holmes/SNS)
Q: Is your claim to independence compromised by the position of Campbell Ogilvie as SFA president throughout much of this time?
S.R: Campbell made a very clear point of recusing himself from every single decision and discussion relating to Rangers. He stepped outside and wasn’t involved at any time.
Q: How much is this about Celtic, Rangers, EBTs and SFA and how much is this, in reality, a power struggle between the SFA and SPFL?
S.R: We could sit here and second guess the politics behind it. That’s not for me. My job is to try to drive the game forward and focus on all the positives we are dealing with and now allow the past to drag us back.
Q: All this must be wearying, will you consider walking away?
S.R: No.
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WEET WEET WEET on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2017 8:07 AM
Big Jimmy
This is the future entries list for D McCain
http://www.skysports.com/racing/form-profiles/trainer/15823/d-mccain-jnr/future-entries
Good luck mucker
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Cheers mate.
These proposed future runners are of course dependent on how the ground is etc.
Good man.
HH
All the media talk is just that, If Celtic want to go for the throat with regards to the SFA then they will no matter what a daily record article says (to appease their readership) or bfdj jilted opinion. The truth will out.
KLV
Instead of an impractical away game fan boycotts, or the never going to happen stopping of Celtic players playing for Scotland, both of which will affect the team negatively, the Club, the whole Club, board, management, team and support should target SFA’s main sponsors.
We could start by focusing on William Hill as sponsors of the SFA’s showpiece competition, and the BBC/Sky who cover the competition. Don’t participate in promoting the competition (and I include ex-players in this), don’t do official press conferences, don’t do pre/post match interviews. Hold internal press conferences, pre/post match interviews for Celtic TV, with Dafabet logo plastered everywhere, and release for free on You Tube. Supporters boycott William Hill. Start hitting the SFA in the pocket and highlight the reason why.
SCULLYBHOY on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2017 8:15 AM
Big ask tonight – Neymar best winger in the world – Kylian Mbappe the new Pele – but who knows – CELTIC PARK IS SPECIAL!
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Paddy Roberts is the best winger in the world !
If Neymar is worth £200 million………wee Paddy Bhoy is worth double that imo.
LOL.
HH
According to Regan, ” Celtic COULD provoke their own investigation thru SPFL” ?
COYBIG
VFR800
Celtic 7 PSG Nihil
BT
Got it thanks.
Catching up for the game tonight. Looking forward to it
BLANTYRETIM
This is the one my mates and I go to.
Excellent wee place. Best your sis phones to check first.
Bristol – Foresters Arms, 94 Ashley Down Road, Horfield, BS7 9JR
(Tel:0117 924 38520 (Bristol CSC)
If game not shown, try Sportsman Bar on Nevil Road
Make sure she doesn’t go to the pub of the same name round the corner on Gloucester Rd. Also,it’s the local pub for Bristol Rovers fans,who are at home tonight.
Just my opinion, not looking to kick anyone’s cage. But how else can you hurt the sfa and other clubs if not a boycott? so even though you know we are being cheated and have been you still want to turn up and give the cheats more money?
KLV
MIT
Good stuff, tell Almore I’ll try not to drunkenly pocket dial him late tonight
That’s his fault for being first on my phone book list.. :-))
My friends in Celtic,
I assume that those of us who watch away games in the house , work or pub would have to join in the spirit of any boycott and refrain from watching.
It seems the least we could do in empathy with those who are asked th change their lifestyle.
Anyway, that is for another day. Today is for welcoming and hopefully matching the most expensive players on the planet.
COYBIG. The journey continues.
The sun is shining and I’m quietly confident we can cause an upset and surprise many tonight.
Cant wait until i get to Paradise HH
So, in the interests of full transparency, publish the details of the 4 QCs and 3 Law Lords consulted, together with the comprehensive process map of what was investigated, why, the questions asked, the answers given and the rationale for those answers. Furthermore, why are the decisions of the SFA Board not available to stakeholders, i. e. the fans who pay their own hard-earned money in the expectation of seeing free and fair competition.
HH
Cheers BMCUW
Info passed on
Great news from the club yesterday,a timely boost as Broonie and Simunovic extend their contracts. Deal wi PSG tonight,we can deal wi the SFA later. We’ve waited 130 years to get that shower,they can wait a wee bit longer.
Not sure how we do it,though. Boycotts haven’t made it past the proposal stage,SFA are putting up the shutters,SMSM are onside. So,Judicial Review is an option,but the CAS is,I think,the best way forward.
Whatever route we take,we have to do so as one united entity,this is not the time for falling out.
BLANTYRETIM
Any time,mate.
Btw,pocket phoning? Put AAB into your phone,with your own phone number. Works for me,but took me bliddy years to think of it!
Good morning Folks. In about 10 minutes I’ll be starting my first leg of the journey to Celtic Park & won’t get home till 7.30pm tomorrow night, Looking forward to every minute of it. A point out of the game would be massive, my head says no chance but my heart says different.
Just want to give a huge Hail Hail to Eurochamps & Bournesouprecipie who have provided tickets for myself & my mate.
Really looking forward to the trip & hope CQN can park all the angst re the SFA for the day & just get behind the team’
I just don’t get this idea that if it’s only one club ( though that’s doubtful) calling for a review, then there is no need to have one.
Seriously?
Isn’t it about what’s right and wrong?
It shouldn’t come down to the clubs at all. The evidence provided in a court of law should have been the catalyst for a review.
The fact that it hasn’t tells you all you need to know about where the bodies are buried…..
I posted my prediction last night and having slept on it (a bit lumpy) I awoke this morning more convinced than ever, 3-2 to the Bhoys…when it happens, I will then give out winning lottery numbers for tomorrow… :-)
Last time PSG were the opposition aggro between the fans was predicted. PSG ultras have a bit of a reputation . Trouble failed to materialise and there was good rapport between them and us.
Its a few years on but hopefully the bonhomie will be the same. Celtic history runs deep in France. The name Celtic crops up in pub and shop names. So if you see a bunch of hard-looking Parisian fans ………embrace them and buy them a beer. 2-0 to the Celts.
Corkcelt
I think ACGR is staying down for one of the CL games so, hopefully, I can meet up with you and Mick ( and others ) for one of those games.
I am pretty much the same as you re heart and head. I think of the St Johnstone fans coming to Celtic Park knowing they could get hammered but hoping nevertheless.They went home possibly disappointed with a draw !
Hope springs like Leigh Griffiths.
JJ
HAMILTONTIM on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2017 7:10 AM
Celtic 3 PSG 2
Griffiths
Griffiths
Armstrong
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What’s Griff doing that far back to score 2 x OGs? ;-)
Regarding PSG’s wealth, there’s a very interesting review article by Simon Kuper in the New York Review of Books, where he writes about the FIFA executive committee (ExCo) meeting which awarded the 2022 World Cup to Qatar.
“In fact, ExCo’s 2010 vote was probably decided at a lunch a few weeks earlier in Paris’s Elysée Palace. Around the table were France’s then president Nicolas Sarkozy, the Qatari emir’s son, and Michel Platini, the Frenchman who headed the European soccer association UEFA. Platini had walked into the Elysée planning to vote for the US for 2022, but Sarkozy leaned on him to back Qatar instead. At stake were French-Qatari trade deals and a mooted Qatari takeover of the troubled French soccer club Paris Saint-Germain.
Platini duly switched the block of four European votes from the US to Qatar, which decided the outcome. The next year, a wing of the Qatari state bought Paris Saint-Germain and funded its purchases of superstars. Better yet, the Qatari broadcaster beIN Sports—formerly part of Al Jazeera—agreed to pay an unprecedented €607 million a year for rights to French league games. Qatar is still subsidizing French soccer. BeIN—broadcasting in countries from Egypt to the US—may now be as significant an arm of Qatari soft power as Al Jazeera itself. And just to make everyone happy, Platini’s son, a lawyer, got a job at a sportswear company owned by the Qatar Investment Authority”.
Almost makes what happened in Govan look like small change.
See http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/09/28/soccers-culture-of-corruption/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NYR%20Otis%20Redding%20Ashbery%20soccer&utm_content=NYR%20Otis%20Redding%20Ashbery%20soccer+CID_fcbf0dd255698440cb7957a8094284cf&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_term=Soccers%20Culture%20of%20Corruption
LYNOTT67 on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2017 8:44 AM
The sun is shining and I’m quietly confident we can cause an upset and surprise many tonight.
Cant wait until i get to Paradise HH
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Best take your Celtic Bunnet mate…IF the weather forecasters are correct for today and tonight as they are predicting very heavy rain and high winds !
When I go out later…I’ll just find a 5′ 6″ Blonde Burd to keep me warm and dry….in fact it doesnt matter what height she is is or what colour her hair is….Im no fussy !
Enjoy the Celts tonight mate.
HH
Considering the appeal of this game ( PSG are possibly the most exciting draw in the world at the moment), it is rather strange to realise that, apart from the possibility of a drubbing ( and how it would be gloatingly received by many in Scotland), this is really a no pressure game for us.
All those travelling from afar, I hope you have a memorable trip. Indeed, I hope EVERYONE has a memorable trip.
Cheerio for now
JJ
With my excellent recent run of winning bets, and hopefully further winnings to come via the nags…I think I will buy out PSG BEFORE tonights match.
I would then drop ALL their 1st team players, and play their womans youth team in their place, I would then accept the UEFA fine that would follow with a big GIRFUY, and due to this unpredecented and quite brilliant cunning plan of mine, the Celtic would go Top of the Group tonight as we would win 4/5 nil.
After all that, I would still have enough change to Fund a Judicial Review into the SFA and huns, after I have slipped a few quid into the Judges pockets.
SIMPLES !
COYBIG.
Maybe Big Jozo will put in a “Kenny Miller” type challenge on that we rat face fink Chump Neymar in the first 5 minutes, and he will run away greetin to his mammy…never to be seen again for a few weeks or so ?
talking of running to yer mammy, I was reminded of when that so called “Hard Man” of the Huns Bilel Moshni…..ran like feck to his mammy after he assaulted the Motherwell players when the huns got gubbed 6-1 on aggregate in play off….HaHaHa.
again on Hun media yesterday, some brought up that “incident” claiming that poor Moshni was the ” VICTIM” ?
That Filth mob from Ipox canny even re write history very well !
What an absolute Shower !
COYBIG.