The headlines screamed today of secret meetings between Sevco owner, Charles Green, and SPL chairmen, as Green attempted to convince them to change direction and vote Sevco into the SPL. Jim Spence reported exactly the same on the BBC at the weekend, crucially adding how little impact the pleas had and that the SPL vote was certain to go against Sevco.
‘News’ that three clubs were prepared to back Green is just another way of reporting that at least eight clubs will vote against. A suggestion (which came from Kilmarnock) that SPL clubs vote in secret ballot instead of an open show of hands is laughable and will be dismissed.
Tomorrow’s SPL meeting will be a lot less significant than today’s Scottish Football League meeting. More on this later.
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Mea Culpa on 3 July, 2012 at 11:08 said:
When I am stalked by Mr Whippy, I scream!
A wafer Gods sake.yer paranoid lol
♪ ♫ Once a jolly hack man camped beside a billy-bong
Under the shade of a derelict heap
And he wailed and he cried as his infamous Glasgow team did die
Who’ll come a waltzing a newco with me? ♪ ♫
♪ ♫ Waltzing a Newco, Waltzing a Sevco
Who’ll come a waltzing a No Go with me
And he wailed and he cried as his infamous Glasgow team did die
Who’ll come a waltzing a newco with me? ♪ ♫
♪ ♫ Up jumped the Taxman right beside that billy-bong
I’ll have some hard cash that you owe me
And the charities and hospitals are waiting for for some revenue
Who’ll come a waltzing a newco with me? ♪ ♫
♪ ♫ Waltzing a Newco, Waltzing a Sevco
Who’ll come a waltzing a No Go with me
And he wailed and he cried as his infamous Glasgow team did die
Who’ll come a waltzing a newco with me? ♪ ♫
Dessybhoy, no formal announcement from the club, which means the deal has probably still with the lawyers, but Fraser confirmed it was agree to an English newspaper.
Billy’s Bhoy, Lloyds have stepped back from this one. Clubs have a free vote.
It’s refreshing to see the other clubs saying that the SPL/SFL/SAF will not be allowed to bully their member clubs into a hastily arranged marriage of inconvenience. They have done themselves proud.
Its bewildering why Kilmarnock stand out as the sole hun backer, I can’t imagine that stance will attract much favours either from away fans and even a portion of their own fans. Its remarkable that the likes of lowly Stranraer will make a stand for a principle and the likes of Kilmarnock will not.
I think Killie should pay for their stance.
The MSM backed a big loser, they misjudged public opinion, they backed themselves into a corner.
They are now hanging their hats on the hope that financially the SPL will be poorer, Well I’m afraid in real life not all judgements are made 100% good against 100% bad. Sometimes in life, it’s harder to do the RIGHT thing. If that means an end to the private jets, helicopter flights and succulent lamb then MSM should accept it and remember at the end of the day, UK taxpayers paid for all these things and not old hunco. UK workers pay more tax so that old hunco didn’t go without titles
And a helluva lot more people than the ibroke tea wummin lost their jobs because of the ibrox defecit on our economy
The one thing to remember in ALL of this fiasco is that old hunco brought this upon themselves and no one should be held responsible for their troubles other than them. Despite the oft repeated MSM mantra about financial damnation for all without sevco.
This 16 million, or 18 million loss that will apparently be sucked out of Scottish fitba, as spouted by various MSM/SFA/SPL bawheids, How much of this 16 million quid is going directly into sevco coffers and is not for the benefit of any other Scottish side? How does the alleged 16 million quid compare with the 150 million quid that has already been paid out to old hunco players?
Can Scotland deal with another Liquidation from the likes of HMFC or KFC for example if they enviously look at debt free sevco still playing as normal
The MSM should hang their head in shame, but shame is a word they don’t seem to understand
Chick young is still saying it wasn’t David Murrays fault. Ghod help us.
They offer to apologise only if they are allowed to twist the rules again. The reason for an apology should be because they are admitting contrition for a wrong doing and seeking forgiveness. Not conditional on more rules twisted.
They owe a damn sight more than an forced apology. Insulting and nothing less.
I want Fat Sally standing on the Parkheid centre spot while his epaulets and medals are stripped from them in a foreign legion style. That might be an apology. A conditional apology will never ever be accepted
Big Swee at 10.45
I was on Arran at the weekend at the distillery and sample some of this :
The Arran Malt – The Devil’s Punch Bowl
£69.99 Inc. Vat
The Devil’s Punch Bowl is being released in July 2012 and is a limited edtion of 6,660 bottles. It is a unique vatting of 24 Arran casks. Based around stunning 1996 Sherry Butts, it includes as well 2006 peated Bourbon Barrels – First ever combination of peated & un-peated Arran! Bottled at 52.3%, it is non-chillfiltered with no artificial colouring.
Ok so a wee bit pricey but its truly amazing stuff if he’s a good mate,
good luck
GS
Gerrys son:
Do you know what outlet they’ll use to sell the limited edition?
Bourne
Someone nicked Jinky!
hamiltontim on 3 July, 2012 at 11:09 said:
greenjedi
If you’re claim is that PL, Wilson and Quin are fans and not supporters because they don’t put money into the club then by the same logic Burns, McStay and Lennon wouldn’t be considered ‘supporters’.
Our support takes many shapes and forms.
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Thats why i said they were FANS, not SUPPORTERS!
Also Burns, McStay & Lennon did/do work when we play. The Board are are getting free seats, drinks, food, travel and hotels etc etc. They don’t pay a penny.
Paul 67
Thanks, hope they are right.
Jim Spence @bbcjimspence
Airdrie and Dundee will not vote when vote takes place on the issue of Newco
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SFL RULEBOOK
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53. ATTENDANCE AND VOTING BY MEMBERS
53.1 Each Member and Associate Member must send one representative, who
must be an Official, to all general meetings (and to all other meetings by
whatever name called) of the Members of the League.
53.2 All representatives of Member Clubs must exercise their vote on all matters
which fall to be decided at general meetings. Any Member Club whose
representative fails to comply with this Rule shall be dealt with by the Board
as a disciplinary matter in such way as the Board thinks proper.
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Chris McLaughlin @BBCchrismclaug
On steps of Hampden, Raith Rovers chairman Turnbull Hutton says the game is corrupt. Says he’s been lied to, threatened and bullied. #SFL
All makes sense really………………
Since February I have never had a discussion with my Sevco 5088 supporting friends one of whom left the country (Phuket when we were on holiday) to avoid meeting me.
Last Friday we were having a quiet drink in a bar (Mrs RobinBhoy and myself) talking with the owner who is a Sevco man himself about season ticket prices (apparently £605 in the Club Deck at Ibrox) when we were interupted by another person in the bar who asked me if we were Celtic supporters as he had obviously been earwigging our discussion.
When I confirmed we were this complete stranger replied “Get it right up ye! We’ll be back!”
This is the mentality of these idiots, no contritition, they are being persecuted, we have done nothing wrong, punished anough already, the list goes on, aided and abetter by the MSM who should all be lined up and shot in my ideal world.
Well maybe just paint balled!
I’ll be happy to see Sevco in division 3 stripped of all titles won through cheating and as someone said on this blog “Whatever part of my club I have to lose” to see this happen I am willing to lose it.
Celtic should continue to say nothing to the media, Raith Rovers, Clyde et al are doing a great job exposing the bullying, gerrymandering and the rest. If Celtic make a statement there will be violence in the streets of Scotland, no statement is worth one Celtic supporters life.
Will be very interesting to see how this ends, more revelations tonight on Channel 4 apparenty.
Rangers are dead, Sevco might just follow them very soon, no season ticket sales equals no money, equals administration within weeks regardless of the votes in the next week, which I think will go against them.
Enjoy their demise, no need for infighting amongst the Celtic support.
Hail Hail!
RobinBhoy
Good morning from cloudy Manchester.
Happy Burthday to my fellow metreologist Jobo.
I can’t believe after all this time, my first comment on CQN is about Whisky and Ice Cream (okay a lot of talk about Ice cream in the last few months, as we’ve all became experts)
Whisky – Talisker 57 Degrees North, this is actually 57% in strength too, but very smooth
Latest Front page headline – Michelle McManus loves Ice Cream….
Well, it’s a big scoop!
Big Swee.
Try Springbank 10 or 15 yo . Made in Cambellton. Fantastic
I see Killie’s Michael Johnston is staying loyal loyal to the bitter end…his endorsement of der hun puts the support and patronage of legneds like Slur Cardigan, the vast inexhaustible repository of various Murray’s, the multitude of staff and players formerly sustained by the generous bounty of EBT’s, the very rich and very audible “fans” that are as yet too parsimonious to part with their rhino’s to save their beloved institu…yet there is good old Michael still there valiantly battling to keep the doomsday padlock from the blue gates…it says a lot for his no surrender attitude for the cause.
Steviebhoy66- good shout re Dunblane.
Chairbhoy
the story has not yet concluded.
Hail HAil
Jim Spence @bbcjimspence
Airdrie and Dundee will not vote when vote takes place on the issue of Newco
WTF
dunfermilne as club 12
Celtic might be unable to take the SFA or even UEFA to a court
I see no problem for any of our Billionaire directors not to pick up that particular gauntlet.
Hail Hail
Terrymac on 3 July, 2012 at 11:27 said————————–
Terry, Are you sure you are an aboriginal Bankie ?
Where did you acquire such a cultivated palate ?
5 bottles at £12 each is much closer to the heart of the world’s shipbuilding capital.
Kit
I believe that a dirty deal was agreed upon
Hail Hail
goldstar10
Ha – EuroChamps67 has pee wee’d off to Greece
TBB
Wee Jinky is busy heading up, the no to Newco vote
greenjedi on 3 July, 2012 at 11:41 said:
hamiltontim on 3 July, 2012 at 11:09 said:
greenjedi
If you’re claim is that PL, Wilson and Quin are fans and not supporters because they don’t put money into the club then by the same logic Burns, McStay and Lennon wouldn’t be considered ‘supporters’.
Our support takes many shapes and forms.
…………………
Thats why i said they were FANS, not SUPPORTERS!
Also Burns, McStay & Lennon did/do work when we play. The Board are are getting free seats, drinks, food, travel and hotels etc etc. They don’t pay a penny.
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No but neither do any of those players ‘pay a penny’.
I’m genuinely confused by your argument and not seeking confrontation. I’m just making the point that it’s spurious to suggest that PL, BW and BQ are/were not Celtic supporters because they sat on the board of Celtic.
Paul67
How did Lloyds put that though…
“We are not telling you how to vote, but can you show me your business plan of how your debt will be paid off without Sevco in the SPL?”
And here I thought tomorrow was going to be a non-event.
If the Clubs don’t vote they way their supporters want, the game is over.
‘Join Gerry McCulloch, #Rangers legend Bomber Brown, Hugh Keevins and Gordon Dalziel’
They’ll be discussing string theory and giving a definitive view on thon higgs boson particle. Bomber & Gordon will then explain that there libor scams that the banks were pulling before finally coming up with a restructure of scottish football that’s so beautiful and fair that Shug ‘n’ Ger can only cry.
Like everyone else, I read the SFL document, listing the £16 Million potential loss to Scottish Football as an attempt to scaremonger the SFL clubs into doing a deal for Sevco…
As the dust settles (and although we may not know the outcome until after the SPL vote), what if Longmuir plays a 3 year promotion ban on Sevco in the First Division? (along with other sanctions) Potentially still 3 years before they can compete in the SPL.
They’ve thrown the rule book away so much, and pitched everything so badly, I can see a compromise such as this occurring (Only my opinion)
Personally – 3rd Division and treated as the new club – (lucky to get some facilities on the cheap) with potentially a 5 year rise to the SPL + Sanctions is the only way to go.
The question keeps coming up, doesn’t it ?
So I will ask it again … and AGAIN … and AGAIN ….
Where is the statement from Celtic ?
SFL club chairmen are claiming they are being bullied by the SPL. We are on the SPL board. Other chairmen are having their say right left and centre. Why not us?
Charles Green is offering bribes with OUR money.
Allegedly we are not party to meetings which SHOULD involve us.
What is to be GAINED from staying silent ?
The perception is growing – every single day – that we are involved in trying to cobble together some stinking compromise.
A statement would put that perception to bed.
Kitalba,
I think it’ll be through their website and visitor centre for a week or so at first. I’ve emailled them to see if it’ll be on sale on the mainland, the whisky shop in Princes sq usually have a good selection of Arran malts. Enjoy!
GS
Flying visit. Hearing we are workingon three deals, no information on positions or players. Ki and Paddy likely outs.
Off to Hamilton races, no nothing about racing. If anybody has any tips that will be better than mine please feel free to e-mail me at lennybhoycfc@gmail.com
Until we meet again.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 3 July, 2012 at 11:51 said:
The question keeps coming up, doesn’t it ?
So I will ask it again … and AGAIN … and AGAIN ….
Where is the statement from Celtic ?
James just my opinion………….
Celtic should continue to say nothing to the media, Raith Rovers, Clyde et al are doing a great job exposing the bullying, gerrymandering and the rest. If Celtic make a statement there will be violence in the streets of Scotland, no statement is worth one Celtic supporters life.
Charles Young in 2003. Highlighted on RTC:
“But I have a problem with clubs who can eject their debt by going into administration and then resume normal service in the same division while former employees – and not just players – are left drowning in a sea of debt. It is morally wrong.”
Thanks for all the distillery advice folks. Some truly wonderful options there, having tasted a few. I do like the Jura and Highland Park.
Will have a look at all the others suggested and buy this weekend.
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 3 July, 2012 at 11:51 said
What is to be GAINED from staying silent
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Everything and more.
SPL clubs slightly dislike Celtic currently than the old hunco.
Anything Celtic say at the moment will be distorted, sensationalised and misrepresented, taking the heat of the hun and diverting it onto a straw man.
james forrest
“What is to be GAINED from staying silent?”
One or two lives – perhaps
RobinBhoy:
With all due respect, that is a piece of scaremongering nonsense.
We are hiding behind other clubs, or we are conspiring. Those are the only two inferences that can be drawn from our continued silence.
We are now the most powerful club in the land – or we will be if we do the right thing here, for the right reasons. When the game is falling apart at the seams, when grubby deals are being offered with our club’s cash I don’t want to read website editorials telling us we’re getting shafted when our club says nothing whatsoever about it.
I don’t want to read from Paul67 or others what we are doing behind the scenes, if anything. It’s time for our club to speak for God’s sake.
If we are to be the moral driving force of the new era of Scottish football the time to start acting like it is now. Our fence sitting is pathetic.
Anyone else think it was just a coincidence that the SPL clubs came out strongly against Sevco shortly after they saw the Harper McLeod report into ineligible players?
Jabba jabba hey,jabba jabba hey
Read what the battered bunnet
Has to say…….
Hamilton Tim
IMO there are Fans who follow the club and fans who financially support the club. That is my distinction.