“Sell Out Saturday, show everyone the SPL doesn’t need the Old Firm to thrive”. Discuss.
You have to admire the Aberdeen fans, and fans of every other club in the league, even Kilmarnock fans, who are clearly infuriated by the actions of their chairman. For perhaps the first time in history they have stood up to their clubs and football administrators and effected real and genuine change in our game.
Aberdeen fans produced this Sell-out Saturday graphic, urging people to “show everyone the SPL doesn’t need the Old Firm to thrive”. By ‘Old Firm’ I am sure they don’t mean the cash-cow rivalry Celtic had with Rangers, they mean without Rangers, and without Celtic too.
For every other club in the SPL, Celtic are now their most precious visiting brand. For fans of every other club in the SPL, Celtic are a competitive irrelevance. This season our income is likely to be greater than that of every other club in the league. We pay superstar wages while, for the most part, they pay real world footballers real world compensation.
In short, the SPL doesn’t need the SPL to thrive. The clubs may (or may not) believe they need Celtic to pay bills, but recent events have demonstrated that might not be the case.
There is another problem to consider. If the SPL keeps Celtic, in a decade or so they will have Newco-Rangers, and the whole dysfunctional business will start all over again. Kick Celtic out now and Newco-Rangers will never materialise in the manner it would if Celtic remained.
SPL fan power has one more club to sort out.
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warszawabhoy
I well understand your anger and frustration but why are you so surprised. THIS IS SCOTTISH FOOTBALL – ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HT
The one’s who get what its all about will feel the same way.
Don’t think I’ve ever came back from a Champions League trip in a bad mood, we’ve never won a game away……….it’s always been memorable due to the company!
BIG-CUP-WINNERS on 22 July, 2012 at 12:03 said:
I see what you did there.
Off topic but….
Watched a great doc/movie last night…”Senna”
Recommended.
HH
BCW
Was tfplg his lawyer??
HT
Biggest lot of tripe I have read on here in a while.
How we handled Jock Stein after his car crash was worse than embarrasing and I am sure you will agree.
Hes a provo too ….. Fill in the name embarrasing
I’d rather be a paki than a hun embarrasing
Mark walters bananas embarrasing
I could go on and on but worry that it might not fit in with your Celtic scriptures.
Celtic FC continue to play away games and getting humped by a third team while selling it as a product without mustering a shot at goal …embarrasing
CLAW ???????????
Lets say we agree to disagree …. Surprise huh ?
HH
Sometimes I wonder
sometimes I don’t
Matt_E, flight on time!! See ye in a few hours
Over & out
bankiebhoy1
I am in bankiebhoy. Should I ‘advance’ through Paul. I too have wanted to contribute and simply purchasing from the shop was not completely satisfying. Not the richest but would like to show my commitment.
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MattE
Due to finances and lack of opportunity as a result of job restrictions my excursions to foreign shores to see Celtic have been limited.
I would love to have been in Amsterdam but paying for a family holiday took priority.
I could go to Helsinki but finances probably won’t allow for it. That’s why I got annoyed when I saw a poster swithering on whether to travel to Finland, when he can afford to do so.
I’d bite the hand off you to have that option and there wouldn’t be any swithering.
bankiebhoy
Meant to say that I am all for using what is available to help other clubs that need a hand up to get Scottish club football back in gear. Celtic supporters ALL INCLUSIVE!
H H
Mea Culpa
I’ve got a crackin’ pair of blue boots :)
H H
ernie lynch on 22 July, 2012 at 12:05 said:
What did I do ?
For the legals on the blog,should the SFA/SPL agree to drop the inquiry into dual contracts is it possible for the shareholders in Celticplc to take them the SFA to court and what would our complaint/charge be?
Hamiltontim @ 11.28
There is context in the use of the word ’embarrassment’.
Ajax as had been highlighted for a host of different reasons move in a different football stratosphere as was evident in the entire set up, and in football terms Celtic were certainly embarrassed.
From the comments last night I note you didn’t see the game? – Celtic were outclassed, we move on, with Neil Lennon but I won’t be giving up my season ticket.
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Richie..
Re; Golf..
Could not Get BBC1.. But l think l have found a app to see it.. Live stream.com
Many thanks
Summa
hamiltontim on 22 July, 2012 at 12:08 said:
Good idea.
Struggling who to cast as the gaggle of supporters outside the Sheriff court.
DavieL
Just catching up – cracker lad!
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Arty on 22 July, 2012 at 12:05 said:
warszawabhoy
Arty, I agree with you but this time McCoist is saying. I want to join your club SFA but I’m not prepared to accept your rules re fielding ineligible players.
I don’t believe even the SFA can be seen to permit that.
McCoist threatens to walk away if titles are stripped?
At last he’s found his excuse CSC
bournesouprecipe on 22 July, 2012 at 12:24 said:
Hamiltontim @ 11.28
Agree, either that or we just stay in denial in a football context
Sunday lunchtime -way down south .
94 degrees hot. Heading for a beach . 3 dogs that need a dip and a good scrub in a salty sea. My mosquito battered body badly needs the therapy provided by a cool [ relatively speaking ] sea. Balm for the body and the soul..
Once again my mind wondered why such little comment [ never mind an investigation ] re the ludicrous pumping of the value of Hunland [ made all the more interesting by the fact that said pumping was all that kept them from being guilty of trading whilst insolvent] That would have very naughty — even in Dreichland .
Buona Domenica tutti ——- cool sea and an even cooler Mohito —–soon come.
LeftClick – thanks mate.
“Arty” – No, this is about Celtic supporters supporting Celtic and a good cause.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 22 July, 2012 at 12:13 said:
I take it you don’t agree :-)
‘Biggest load of tripe…’ possibly a slight over reaction?
Firstly, the manner that Big Jock was wrong and was a disgraceful incident but I wasn’t part of it so why should I be embarrassed by it?
In my youth I chanted ditties about players etc being ‘provos’ but I was young and naive. In hindsight it was silly but I’m not embarrassed by it.
I can honestly say that I’ve never sang the one about rather being a ‘paki than a hun’.
I remember standing in the Jungle on Walters’ debut at Parkhead and seeing Celtic supporters dressed in monkey suits and others throwing bananas.
I was horrified and angry and challenged some of those who participated in it.
However, I wasn’t embarrassed. I regret those incidents even to this day but I don’t get embarrassed by the actions of others. They’re responsible for themselves not me.
Ambitious QPR are making a £6million move for Celtic’s South Korean midfield star Ki Sung-Yeung. Owner Tony Fernandes is keen to land top Asian talent and has given boss
Mark Hughes the cash to land classy Ki for his club to team him up with Park Ji- Sung.
Celtic have been approached and are fighting to get the best deal possible – with Ki possibly being sold despite their pending Champions League campaign.
South of Tunis.
Like yourself,I live in an “awfy hot” place.Cyprus in my case.
If you are troubled by mozzies,have you tried Skin So Soft by Avon?
It’s marketed as a moisturiser but works well for many people,myself included,as an insect repellent.Special forces guys use it apparently.
I also take Quercetin B5 Complex by Viridian.It’s an antihistamine but made with natural ingredients rather than the hay fever stuff you get from chemists.
It helps prevent bites flaring up when you do get them.
Worth a try if the wee buggers are making life uncomfortable.
Hope this helps.
Hail Hail fae the sunshine
medtim
With the demise of oldhunco, does anyone know what the current situation is regarding the Tennents shirt sponsorship deal? If newhunco fail to obtain a license for next season, could that mean that Celtic receive their share of the deal?! Is it not about £1.5million a year?
HH!!
Paul67 et al
I know I have said it before, the SFA need to refer all outstanding reports, investigations, and referrals concerning Rangers FC (extant) to either a new Judicial Tribunal or the SFA’s own Disciplinary Committee and suspend either the Club or the proceedings SIne Die. Sevco can then begin to create its’ own history, starting at Brechin.
BSR Re last night’s skelping.
It was embarrassing. Someone compared it to the PSG humbling, bang on.
The constant movement of the Ajax players into space when they had the ball or towards a Celt when defending was a major difference. That’s not difficult to copy in the mid-term.
Trick is to get better. To do that Celtic need to copy our European opponents as much as we can. Now that’s pie in the sky, we are too far behind the likes of Ajax, Utrecht etc. But it will close the gap.
At this stage I’d settle for the club importing a swathe of coaches to lay the foundations/mentality, in a few years we may be closer.
There’s no point in continuing with coaches drawn from ex-British footballers who at best will be learning themselves.
HT
You need more mates that support Ajax.
You also have a Hell of a brass neck.
I do worry that the frontally labotomised cheer leading fan who can see Celtic doing no wrong or themselves will see us wallow in Scottish mediocrity while turning following Celtic into a WWF experience.
But you know what I think already ;-)
HH
South of Tunis & Medtim. Aloa Vera gel. Stops the little B’s bites itching. Eventually. Don’t know if it would work on midges.
Bourne
I read your comments last night and although I didn’t agree I felt they were measured and proportionate.
You’re right I didn’t see the game but I wouldn’t have used the word ’embarrassed’ even if I had.
Anyway, Norwich next….
Whilst reading this article remember Camerons’s mantra “we are all in this together”
Tax ‘hidden’ by global super-rich worth $21tn James Henry says his $21tn figure is a conservative estimate
A global super-rich elite had at least $21 trillion (£13tn) hidden in secret tax havens by the end of 2010, according to a major study.
The figure is equivalent to the size of the US and Japanese economies combined.
The Price of Offshore Revisited was written by James Henry, a former chief economist at the consultancy McKinsey, and commissioned by the Tax Justice Network.
He said $21tn is a conservative figure and the true scale could be $32tn.
A trillion is 1,000 billion.
Mr Henry used data from the Bank of International Settlements, International Monetary Fund, World Bank, and national governments.
His study deals only with financial wealth deposited in bank and investment accounts, and not other assets such as property and yachts.
The report comes amid growing public and political concern about tax avoidance and evasion. Some authorities, including in Germany, have even paid for information on alleged tax evaders stolen from banks.
The group that commissioned the report, Tax Justice Network, campaigns against tax havens.
Mr Henry said that the super-rich move money around the globe through an “industrious bevy of professional enablers in private banking, legal, accounting and investment industries.
“The lost tax revenues implied by our estimates is huge. It is large enough to make a significant difference to the finances of many countries.
“From another angle, this study is really good news. The world has just located a huge pile of financial wealth that might be called upon to contribute to the solution of our most pressing global problems.”
The report highlights the impact on the balance sheets of 139 developing countries of money held in tax havens that is put beyond the reach of local tax authorities.
Mr Henry estimates that since the 1970s, the richest citizens of these 139 countries had amassed $7.3tn to $9.3tn of “unrecorded offshore wealth” by 2010.
Private wealth held offshore represents “a huge black hole in the world economy,” Mr Henry said.
medtim ——
You just caught me —– the good lady from Padova is still struggling with the labour of choosing which flip flops .
Avon Sin So Soft —- know it /use it / it works [ mostly ]
Standard fee for crashing with me is a bottle of Skin So Soft , a bottle of Pultney Town and as many history / music books as the person can carry .
Been a great summer for mosquitos / been a bad summer for mosquito bites . Freakish heat seems to have given them a vicious vigor. Avon Skin So Soft works well at night but seems to be useless against those big evil Tiger mosquitos that fly day and night.. Horrible things.
Told we’re ready !
Fat Sally… And the manager added: “It is important to remember we have already had a 10 point deduction from the SPL, lost our Champions League place for finishing second last season, had a £160,000 fine, been refused entry to the SPL, been relegated to Division Three and lost the majority of our first-team squad – yet still the governing body has chosen to impose further sanctions.
Dear oh dear, Mr Fatkins. You need a reality check.
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Interesting article from Hateley regarding an “attempted” bribe.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/884486/former-rangers-striker-mark-hateley-makes-marseille-bribe-claim?cc=5739
He claims he didn’t deserve to be sent off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzfniIEZsTo
Looks very clear cut to me. Despite turning down the bribe it’s curious how he missed the game anyway. Hmmmm.
Awe Naw
I see individual Celtic supporters acting in a manner that I find disgusting, crass and the antithesis of the entire ethos of our club.
If I were to act in this way then I would be embarrassed.
But I don’t so I won’t :-)
So when we’re told to get fit, we’re encouraged to take upma sport like football, however when football players are trying to get fit, they’re told to run, what’s that all about.
Even I could see that team lacked ball work, might as well get MrBolt canna kick a ball but some runner.
Tallybhoy on 22 July, 2012 at 12:40:
“With the demise of oldhunco, does anyone know what the current situation is regarding the Tennents shirt sponsorship deal? If newhunco fail to obtain a license for next season, could that mean that Celtic receive their share of the deal?!”
Tennents are renegotiating their deal with Sevco and obviously reducing their payment to an appropriate rate for a Third Division club. Should they make it that far.
The contract with Celtic remains the same. I’m not sure how long the Tennents sponsorship lasts for, but we have a golden opportunity to find a fitting sponsor on a stand alone deal.