“Sell Out Saturday, show everyone the SPL doesn’t need the Old Firm to thrive”. Discuss.
You have to admire the Aberdeen fans, and fans of every other club in the league, even Kilmarnock fans, who are clearly infuriated by the actions of their chairman. For perhaps the first time in history they have stood up to their clubs and football administrators and effected real and genuine change in our game.
Aberdeen fans produced this Sell-out Saturday graphic, urging people to “show everyone the SPL doesn’t need the Old Firm to thrive”. By ‘Old Firm’ I am sure they don’t mean the cash-cow rivalry Celtic had with Rangers, they mean without Rangers, and without Celtic too.
For every other club in the SPL, Celtic are now their most precious visiting brand. For fans of every other club in the SPL, Celtic are a competitive irrelevance. This season our income is likely to be greater than that of every other club in the league. We pay superstar wages while, for the most part, they pay real world footballers real world compensation.
In short, the SPL doesn’t need the SPL to thrive. The clubs may (or may not) believe they need Celtic to pay bills, but recent events have demonstrated that might not be the case.
There is another problem to consider. If the SPL keeps Celtic, in a decade or so they will have Newco-Rangers, and the whole dysfunctional business will start all over again. Kick Celtic out now and Newco-Rangers will never materialise in the manner it would if Celtic remained.
SPL fan power has one more club to sort out.
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Setting free the bears,
What posters are you referring to?
Twinbhoy on 22 July, 2012 at 00:55 said:
Are you serious son ??
Do you honestly really believe that they are gonna turn round & say “oh we know we´ve done wrong & we´re sorry for what we´ve done ? Grow up & get a life.
They have always hated us for who we are & they always will.
You´ll learn someday son.
What=which?
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MacJay..
G’Day fine Sir..
I see I have brought the Sunshine back with me..
Beat 4-0.. In Europe.. I bet Sammi was Dropped..;0(
Summa
Summa of Sammi…. on 22 July, 2012 at 01:18 said:
Well he wasn´t playing.
Do you think he would have transformed the result ?
Macjay. What sun??
Think PL has laid the marker down
We have no ambition
tricoloured ribbon
Sorry, My bed is calling me so not enough time for detail.
Basically, it is the ones who went over the top at the first sign of trouble, having not been around on the blog during our good times.
Constructive criticism is fine but I mistrust miserabilists.
g’night
Summa
Cracker of a day in Sydney.
Haven`t seen the game today,so can`t comment.
The standard of Scottish football is not great.That is reflected in our European results in competitive matches.The answer ,of course ,is a different league,however,I am enthusiastic to stay meantime and try to be part of a Scottish football renaissance without the baleful inflence of the huns.
.Perhaps pie in the sky,but at the moment ,there is no option.
Hope all is great for yersel.
Adam Scott for the Open? Yes please.
> OP
P67
Surely not?
SydneyTim on 22 July, 2012 at 01:25 said:
Macjay. What sun??
Think PL has laid the marker down
We have no ambition
Sunny on the North Shore.
No ambition? Ill remind you of that when we reach the C.L.semis.:-)
Macjay
With our defenders ,I think we will be lucky to get to the EL qualifier
Raining south
Sore head tday. Mrs St and myself in the mercantile till midnite
Suffering now
Rogne is defo the Norwegian mark McNally
SydneyTim on 22 July, 2012 at 01:40 said:
You`re probably right.
Too hard in Europe.
Too easy at home.
Hair of the dog,today,mate.
Prevention: litre of water last night.
THE EXILED TIM on 21 July, 2012 at 23:29 said:
I don’t want to start who runs the club debate again, but I was told the other week that the only player Lenny has brought in is Hooper, the rest are PL signings.
Fair enough.
Remember then, if we sell ki for 8 million or so, Peter deserves some bonus, after all he only signed him to sell jerseys, remember?
Same with Victor, potential megabucks profit, does Peter get credit for that?
Same with Kayal, does Peter get credit for that?
I could go on and on, let’s not criticise someone for spending around 6- 7 million on players (include Hooper, Ledley, Izaguirre, etc.) who are now worth ten times as much.
@timbhoy in spain
I hear you. All I am tring to express is the finality for them, Div 3, pending leagsl, no money, players defecting, their loass of anything to look forward to..
It is affecting them, making them more humble- their dimance is gone, momne knos what the spotlight of scrutiny will uncover next?
I am old and ugly enough to know the basic, shameful, undeuted bogotry in our lovely wee country but the times thay are a changing my friend.
*combination of dodgy keyboard
fat fingers
always loved this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-HQJXI4nVw
I no longer have your locket framed in gold…
Just watched The Fly for the first time.
Pure mingin, so it wis.
I remember that game. We had just returned from an unbeaten tour of Bermuda and the USA. Team was superbly fit and ran United ragged.
Great to see a goal from Hooky McBride.
Oops sorry
I should have said it was in response to
Tricoloured Ribbon on 22 July, 2012 at 00:21 said:
“I will not be accepting any talk of stripping titles,” said McCoist.
Don`t the S.P.L. know that Ally is one of the peepel.
How dare theysuggest such a thing.
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Ajax 4 – 0 Celtic: Tough European lesson for Lennon’s men
CELTIC were handed a harsh lesson in the Amsterdam ArenA tonight when they were taken apart by Ajax in a pre-season friendly.
Hoops defender Charlie Mulgrew was sent off for deliberate handball on the line in the 66th minute before Daley Blind scored from the resultant spot-kick but the damage had been done long before then.
Neil Lennon’s men were given the runaround in a one-sided first-half which ended with the visitors three goals down.
In the 13th minute Ajax midfielder Siem De Jong drove into the top corner from outside the box giving Parkhead keeper Fraser Forster no chance.
The Dutch side were a class apart but Celtic did not help their cause with some slack defending, which cost them dearly in the 21st minute when striker Kolbeinn Sigthorsson tapped the ball into the empty net to make it 2-0.
The visitors looked flat-footed in comparison to slick and pacy Ajax who were in total control, keeping the ball for long spells and threatening any time they approached the Celtic box.
However, when the home side grabbed number three in the 27th minute, moments after De Jong curled a free-kick from 25 yards just past the post, they only had themselves to blame again.
In one of his more casual moments stopper Thomas Rogne got himself caught in possession, allowing Thulani Serero to run through and slide the ball under Forster.
Celtic improved marginally after the break but on the hour mark Forster had to make a good close-range block save from Viktor Fischer who had been set up Sigthorsson in another swift Ajax break.
Mulgrew’s indiscretion came when, with the Parkhead defence all over the place, he instinctively put his hand up on the line to save a Fischer shot but it was all in vain as Blind slammed the penalty past Forster.
Moments later the impressive Jody Lukoki let himself down when he failed to hit the target when he was through against Forster.
A multitude of substitutions for the final 15 minutes did no more than give those players a run-out and the game petered out with Lennon left to try to find some positives ahead of the friendly against Norwich at Celtic Park on Tuesday
Summa
Why have Southampton given the huns 800k
Confused Did not see any ruling in this from FIFA
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Adam Scott..4 Shots clear and No Free to Air Coverage in Australia..
Well done Channel Nine..
Summa
PS.. As l was Flying Home on Thursday l did not Tip him on CQN this Year.. Ha.. Look forward to Seeing Anna after he Wins it..;0)
Only a suggestion….
We should make a move for – Darren Barr – Hearts. imo.
not a move designed to bankrupt the club but, a shrewd
move none the less.
I know full well that the board and, sadly, the manager will
hide behind the – the huns have gone so, we’ll have to tighten
the belts – type of spin.
But, lets wait and see.
Hail Hail
Away back to bed – CSC
ST
they did not pay £ 800k they paid £200k with add ons…
like tax, NI, ENICS PAYE etc ;-)
Celtforlife
But why are they paying money for a person not under contract ?
Does that mean they are due money now from the rest of the mob that walked away ?
Switched off after it went 3-0
Stand off talented players they will destroy you
You also cant carry passengers at top level, Hooper, Stokes and Forrest all three dont do the working away
Fully fit Kayal and Sammy will improve the team
We require a big hard working forward who can hold the ball up, and an experienced pacey C/B both players with requisite CV’S will be hard to find on what Celtic can afford we just have to be patient
Wanyama is gem of a find hope we can hold out but big money will be bid for this young star
Spanish football lessons for
sorry posted early
Spanish lessons about hard work off the ball, and taking your profession seriously by having your body in maximum condition, take note Hooper, Stokes, Commons, Forrest……………………
I’ve spent a few minutes on Bert Kassies very informative site on all things CL and EL. A few facts for the current season and last season:
Celtic are ranked 75 – well down from the heights of a few years ago.
Ajax are ranked 25 – lower than expected but well above us.
HJK Helsinki are ranked 189 – last year they followed the rangers route of losing both CL round 3 and EL play off. They are currently 7-0 up against KR Reykjavik who are ranked 230.
Last year Celtic played in EL group stages against teams currently ranked 8, 49 and 109. Lost 3-0 on aggregate against A Madrid (8), drew both games 1-1 against Udinese (49) and won 4-1 against Rennes (109).
Summary: our current players last season achieved results in Europe consistent with UEFA rankings.
Conclusion: Ther is no need to panic about the team ranked 189 due to getting gubbed by the team ranked 25.
I hope last night was a wake up call and ensures the team and management do not take anything for granted.
Ajax were fast, fit, good passers and had great movement off the ball. Helsinki are no Ajax, the rankings do not lie.
MJM
PS former club rangers are 77, Scotlands other CL representative Motherwell are 1 ahead of Helsinki at 188.
He won’t entertain talk about stripped titles let alone them actually doing it. Is he not aware how supremely arrogant this sounds? What’s plan B if it’s eventually decided that they do indeed have titles taken from them for their previous cheating ways? Is that the point where he walks away? Hope so.
Baku/Black Isle Celt on 22 July, 2012 at 07:29 said:Summary: our current players last season achieved results in Europe consistent with UEFA rankings.
Conclusion: Ther is no need to panic about the team ranked 189 due to getting gubbed by the team ranked 25.
Unlike many on here i thought it was embarrassing not qualifying from a Europa group, as were the real football results against Sion, we may be ranked as you say but Celtic are a big club and much more importantly are paying big wages commiserate with a big club, time for some players to step up
Baku/Black Isle Celt,
I enjoy readind a good post with good content.
Can I be an old pedantic so sn so though?
Good stuff is always spoilt for me when the youngsters of todaydon’t seem to understand the concept of how a sentence MUST be constructed?
(Our host Paul is one of the worst offenders by the way.)
For,
“Helsinki are no Ajax, the rankings do not lie.”
Read,
“Helsinki are no Ajax. The ranking do not lie.”
Please.
Spelling typos are ok; as demonstarted.
Alasdair
Oops ! How embarrassing :-)
lionroars67,
I agree with you, Celtic are a big club and current ranking of 75 is not good enough.
Achieving results consistent with our ranking should be the minimum requirement and we should always be looking to improve. My point was really about not worrying about Helsinki, the players should be approaching these games with confidence in their own ability.
If we get into the CL groups we will be a pot 4 team, underdogs in every match, these are the games where the players need to make a name for themselves and become heroes, not “glamour” friendlies.
MJM
Alasdair MacLean,
Grammar has never been a strong point of mine. I was always more inclined to maths and sciences in school although poor spelling tends to annoy me, particularly names of Celtic players (Dalgliesh is a common one on here).
I’m happy to take lessons from a fellow Highlander.
MJM
Baku/Black Isle Celt on 22 July, 2012 at 07:48 said:
lionroars67,
Yes we should not be worried about Helsinki, but! Under Neil our European results are worrying, performances especially away can be disastrous, we have suffered some real thumpings, Helsinki are halfway through their season, have the advantage of playing the away leg first and at home they have the advantage of the Astroturf surface, Celtics first competitive game of the season will be the home leg of this tie, plenty to be worried about……………………………..