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The SFA have made an error in interpreting their laws.  They refuse to discipline Calum Butcher as the rules do not allow them to switch a punishment retrospectively.  This is correct, but the rules do allow retrospective action which the referee has not seen.

Craig Thomson saw the Butcher-van Dijk incident inasmuch as he was looking at the players, but didn’t see it well enough to call an infringement.  SFA rules permit retrospective action under these circumstances.

The matter becomes theoretically more complicated by the involvement of the assistant referee, Graham Chambers.  Chambers also saw the incident inasmuch as he was also looking at the players, but he didn’t have a clear understanding of what happened either.  He couldn’t even identify the Dundee United player involved.
The rules on retrospective action do not require a referee to be looking in the opposite direction before the Disciplinary Panel become involved.  A ref can see the incident but not see if sufficiently well to correctly report what happened.  This is the basis under which Nadir Ciftci has been asked to attend the Panel.

Both referees on Sunday saw the incident.  Neither saw it well enough to bear witness to the actions of the two Dundee United players involved.  SFA laws allow both to be examined retrospectively.

Aiden Connolly, at the very least, has a case to answer for diving in the box.  Should the SFA ban Virgil van Dijk while turning a blind eye to Connolly and incorrectly interpreting their own rules on Butcher, and almighty row will kick off on the competency of those who govern our game.

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  1. F.A.B. Virgil (WATRC)

     

    ‘ the families are asking for radio silence in case it affects any following prosecutions’

     

     

    Didn’t know that . I have been following this via the Liverpool Echo website, they are giving up to the minute reports, they have been supportive of the victims families. As are Ch4 , and I assume all other media outlets are also covering this.

     

    HH

  2. ernie lynch

     

     

     

    09:07 on 12 March, 2015

     

     

     

    lionroars67

     

     

    08:01 on 12 March, 2015

     

     

    ‘There are some political numpties on here who continually assert that Police Scotland tell lies on a scale which do not exist elsewhere in the UK’

     

     

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    Can’t say I’ve ever see anyone suggesting any such thing.

     

     

    I’ve seen people criticise Police Scotland.

     

     

    So far as I know that’s still allowed.

     

     

    I think the truth is that the Scots and the English aren’t as different to one another as the nats would have us believe.

     

     

    The YouGov polls on attitudes to immigration seem to show that.

     

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    You know Ernie, you and your Unionist friends are really no better than the Daily Record. Take one or two points and use that to form an opinion that a balanced individual would see as flawed.

     

     

    Your point about no country being independent has an element of truth, however the objective of a progressive country should be to take the maximum responsibility possible for its own affairs. Now I do agree with you on the currency question and the Bank of England. The YES campaign (wider than what you in a mildly insulting way as just nats, taking in large sections of traditional Labour voters) did not have the courage of its convictions and took what was seen as the easy route, but which itself was fatally flawed.

     

     

    You accused Tom of immediately going on the defensive when that is exactly what you do. Can’t you just accept that you and the other brits won? Or are you really Hugh Keevins in disguise.

     

     

    On a Celtic note (as it should be on here), looking forward to Sunday and a day out in the (hopefully) sun for a cup win.

  3. F.A.B. Virgil (WATRC) on

    Glasgowdave

     

     

    Yes. and C4 coverage is excellent. No issues with reporting but want to limit any comment/discussion in case any potential future defendant wants to claim impossible to get fair trial….

     

     

    HH

  4. mighty tim supporting wee Oscar on

    Morning bhoys and ghirls. Anyone know what time the hearing for virgil is at.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    KTF

     

     

    UTLR

  5. F.A.B. Virgil (WATRC) on

    Cliftoncelt

     

     

    You’ve got loadsa time post game to catch your flight. As I live near the airport I can offer you the chance to dump your bags in my motor pre game and drop you at the airport post game if you were interested? I’m assuming there is only 2 of you?

     

     

    HH

  6. Hey guys

     

     

    Quick question, my friend has spare tickets for the D Utd replay, but would it boost my chances of a ticket for Hampden (touchwood) if I buy direct as a season ticket holder?

     

     

    HH

  7. glassford03

     

     

    Weather forecast is overcast, but dry. Subject to change at a minutes notice, of course.

     

     

    I loved those SC finals in the sun, and for some reason( probably due to the result and the lanny) i always thought our 6-1 thrashing of Hibs was a sunny day, but looking at this, we were all wearing jackets and coats. Then again it was probably all we had.

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSRZSIdTenI

  8. glassford03

     

    11:27 on

     

    12 March, 2015

     

     

    I wonder how the poll might have looked if they’d asked Scots on their views on how immigration had affected Scotland, rather than Britain.

     

     

    It’s a bit flawed in that respect, as the predominant media narrative that might form opinions is about immigration in the SE, where it’s having a totally different impact from that experienced in the North.

     

     

    It’s also worth noting that the comparison poll for the overall GB opinion was done 1 year before, not concurrently. So attitudes could be markedly different over the intervening 12 months.

  9. Geordie

     

     

    Cheers thought as much, might have to reject them and buy direct, shouldn’t be too bad only offered them this morning

     

     

    HH

  10. Patrick,

     

     

    But if we make the final and your mate can’t go he might take the hump with you and offer to someone else :)

     

     

    HH

  11. What is the Stars on

    Cheltenham

     

     

    Ok lads just a few snippets which may help anyone considering having a bet

     

    I have been told that Brian Cooper is the jockey to follow today (Valseur LIdo,Edeymi,Don Cossack and Lieutenant Colonel)

     

    Also that the Pipe yard give Un Temps per Tout an each way chance in the Ladbrokes Hurdle and that Monetaire has been trained all year with this in mind ( 4.00) but has bled (been well backed though) and that The Package although is flying at home

     

     

    Some of these might clash with each other so its up to yourselves

     

     

    May the Lord be with you ( or at least St Jude)

     

    And remember as Groucho Marx once said about his brother Chico who was a degenerate gambler,

     

    He said Chicos motto was “It is better to have lost and lost than never to have lost at all”

  12. Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Afternoon

     

     

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    Been OOOOOOFFFFF planet for a few days

     

     

     

    DidImissAnything

  13. Andree Murphy@andreemurphy · 13 mins13 minutes ago

     

     

    If you have any doubts about the value of inquests and due process re contentious issues follow @alextomo now from Hillsborough inquest

  14. Thanks for the forecast Glasgowdave. Given the weather the last few days it could even be sunny with torrential rain.

     

     

    Interesting points Weeminger. A poll is simply a snapshot in time, as was the referendum. A poll’s results can also be influenced by the way a question is asked. I’m sure Hugh (sorry – Ernie) would agree with that.

  15. yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

     

     

    post number 2008…………………………..

     

     

    Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

  16. Geordie

     

     

    Haha true true, he was asking in someone else’s name anyway so shouldn’t be too bad, well hopefully it I go to this and the semi (if we get there) I should have a decent chance of the final.

     

     

    HH

  17. Gerryfaethebrig on

    what is the stars

     

     

    11:54 on 12 March, 2015

     

     

    Well done on winners so far, I won’t jinx your good run, I think you know your horses quick question, do you think AP was right announcing his retirement before Cheltenham ? Just interested, I am sure AP will get in the winners enclosure soon

  18. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    f.a.b.virgil,

     

     

    Great offer from one Celt to another.

     

     

    Luggage and getting back to town would have been a problem for Cliftonville.

  19. We’ve laughed at the ‘banter’ (all of my 57 on the planet) but we have been subjected to institutional racism for decades.

     

     

    Chris Graham and his fellow ‘fans’ have been wading knee deep, tramping up and down our streets, with bands, live on public media, shoving their racist, sectarian bile right in our faces………………….Yet one tweet against another Faith and BOOOOOM!!!!!!!

  20. There’s a shout for The Package in the 4.40 at CH. Jamie Codd up for David Pipe. Codd is the second best amateur in Ireland, first being Derek O’Connor, who rides Gold Bullet for Tom Taffe. Both good ew bets.

  21. F.A.B. Virgil (WATRC) on

    Auldheid

     

     

    Do you ever hang about CQN corner before the games? I wanted the benefit of your wisdom on something over the next couple of weeks.

     

     

    HH

  22. Craigellachie10 on

    rt rev david hay

     

     

     

    12:19 on 12 March, 2015

     

     

    What I do agree with is the that the SPL second bottom should have gone straight into a semi final play off. The current format is a nonsense albeit due to the fact that the second tier league finishes before the top league.

     

     

    Mike

  23. cliftoncelt

     

     

    11:23 on 12 March, 2015

     

    FAB Virgil.

     

    We are on 9.15 flight from Belfast on Saturday morning. Arriving 10.. ish !!

     

    We have booked a Stadium tour of Celtic park which is at 13.45pm.

     

    Will probably go to hotel first to leave off our bag.

     

    return flight is at 19.30 on Sunday.

     

     

    Mickyboy 1888.

     

    Thanks for that and the number. I have written it down.

     

    I can ask some fellow celts how to get to Calder street whilst at the ground !

     

     

    Thank you all , you have been most helpful !

     

    Hail hail….

     

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    When you leave Hampden, follow the crowd who will be heading towards town. After you pass The International Bar, you will see “Waukesha” on your right. This is Calder St. Turn right, and the Fire Station is on your right. As Mickbhoy says, it will take you about 10 mins walk. Good luck!

     

     

    HH