BBC today revealed that the SFA’s legal team are examining responses from the Associations 93 clubs to a letter dated 9 March, which reminded clubs of their responsibility to record financial records with the SFA and asking them to declare they have complied over the last 10 years.
The inquiry was established after reports that Rangers had illegally registered players for over a decade, excluding payments which were not taxed. We can presume that as the legal team are investigating, there was at least one response which returned a noncompliance.
The SFA issued a deadline for responses of 6 April and under Article 86.1 any club not responding in a timely manner would be in breach, so it’s unclear why it has taken over two months to get to this stage, so why the legal team are only “examining responses”.
We look forward to hearing an early comment on this crucial matter from the executive. It is enormously unfortunate that the SFA were unable to inform their AGM of the findings on Wednesday. BBC report that the Association legal team have yet to report to the Compliance Officer, which is the next step.
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seen this on twitter
http://www.heavens-eleven.co.uk/
The fact is nothing would surprise you if rangers do get a CVA however if finances don’t get them they will rip themselves apart with an all out civil war.
And who is really going to buy a season ticket knowing that half their players will be away by August to fund the CVA?
The old rangers directors are not going to stand around doing nothing watching some Englishman nobody make a quick buck at their expense.
Phil MacGiollaBhain@Pmacgiollabhain
Did the Cheekie Chappie refuse to endorse the ST renewal letter?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
till later all HAIL HAIL
Gordon_J
(From earlier)
Cheers for the reply. However, although your assertion that the SFA’s decision is supported by their rulebook, it was contradicted by their own QC, Aidan O’Neill, who claimed in the CoS that Rangers had had the option of going to the CAS – so which is it?
My fear is that Rangers are spinning things out so they can launch an appeal to CAS at the last minute, therby suspending the transfer embargo until the appeal is heard, which would take several months, giving them 2 transfer windows in which to sign players.
As I hear more about Mr Green and his intentions, and much a I want them dead as soon as, there’s a little voice at the back of my head trying to tell me that it might be worth having the CVA accepted and/or newco back in SPL just to watch the carnage
Chairbhoy on 9 June, 2012 at 09:56 said:
Petec,
From last week you were spot on, Herod’s Temple was a re-building of the Second Temple whose period continued until it was destroyed by the Romans in the sixties.
Also read the Chapter according to John – Indeed.
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The big news is that an unblemished Red Heifer has been found, these creatures are incredibly rare and not been around since the destruction of the last Temple, this, if it is accurate, is highly significant. This apparently is only the 10th RH. I am turning up no google links for this news which says to me it is being hidden from people.
This news was broken on a Jewish program called Temple Talk with a Rabbi Richmond.
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on 9 June, 2012 at 11:25 said:
petec on 9 June, 2012 at 11:08 said:
My apologies if I’m interpreting your post incorrectly, but are you suggesting that MI6 engineered this incident because of Alex Thomson’s reporting of the Rangers FC crisis?
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No not at all, Syria is massive and a lot bigger than Rangers and their manipulation of all things in this country. Alex is however exposing stuff over here that goes to the very heart of the corruption in Scotland, Syria would be a convenient place to take him out of the picture without much questioning.
I urge everyone to Pray for the man and it seems to me God has provided him with protection when he really needed it.
HH
gallagher on 9 June, 2012 at 11:40
That is good to hear, thanks for the link this morning m8. Alex is a real journalist IMO and he is as fearless as they come.
AT & Syria.
There’s nothing civil about civil war, It’s ugly and when either or both sides are willing to commit atrocities just to blame the other, then noone and nothing is safe.
Some time ago I read a book, a diary by Mouloud Feraoun about the Algerian Civil War. I found it shocking and depressing and I can’t believe how naïve I was beforehand. :(
petec on 9 June, 2012 at 13:04 said:
No not at all, Syria is massive and a lot bigger than Rangers and their manipulation of all things in this country. Alex is however exposing stuff over here that goes to the very heart of the corruption in Scotland, Syria would be a convenient place to take him out of the picture without much questioning.
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Sorry petec but despite your denial it seems to me that you are suggesting that unknown forces or MI6 might have considered taking out Alex because of his exposees on RFC.
I think you’re letting your imagination run riot.
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on 9 June, 2012 at 11:34 said
Craig Whyte will not sell his shares to Green as a result of its failure and RFC will be ‘liquidized’ – as Declan would have it.
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That’s the way I’d have it too.
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on 9 June, 2012 at 13:19
You are probably right, I certainly hope you are. ;)
HH
Whenever some ‘effer’ refers tae a heifer, yer safer eff aff or some hefty hefter’ll have ye.
Maks nae sense tae me.
Following rangers appeal to the court of session, when does the spl panel reconvene to decide on a replacement punishment?
saltires en sevilla on 9 June, 2012 at 13:44 said:
Che on 9 June, 2012 at 12:12 said:
coorslad on 9 June, 2012 at 12:09 said:
wont be much left to eat and drink when that pair leave
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My dad called the wee Priest who visited regular as clockwork first Friday of the month ‘The Exorcist’
no spirits in the house when he left
:-)
HH
M
Just bumped into Neil Lennon in glasgow airport.
Anyone got the date for the pre seas game in Amsterdam?
jimbob71 – hope you apologised!
was/is he flying to. We could do with a wee rumour on a slow-ish news day.
Did you say, “sorry”!
Repost from the early hours.
Palacio67 on 9 June, 2012 at 02:40 said:
Sorry Bhoys off subject a little, just checking netflix on my daughters xbox and they are showing 33 episodes of Breaking bad. I think it costs £6 a month, so if anyone has access to it and has’nt seen breaking bad i t makes sense
No to newclub
HH
London Calling –
Ajax (A) – Saturday 21 July
Norwich (H) – Wednesday 25 July (on season book)
Real Madrid (N) – Saturdaay 11 August
up_over_goal,
My understanding is that Arbitration (under CAS) can only happen when both sides agree to it.
The SFA rulebook was written so as the Appeal Tribunal was the second and final stage of the process. As I understand it had the original panel, say suspended them (one of the listed punishments) and this had then been upheld by the Appeal that would have been the end of the matter. There could have been no court case.
Paul McConville knows much more about the legalities than me. He said:
“If, following upon a decision, Rangers wanted to appeal, it could ask the SFA to agree to send the matter to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. If both parties agree, then a case can be referred there. However, as one of the purposes of the creation of the JPP, JP and AT was to keep these matters self-contained in Scotland, by providing a robust appeals structure, it might seem odd for the SFA to agree to do so. Mr O’Neill QC, in appearing for the SFA before Lord Glennie, argued that the court had no jurisdiction and that any appeal should go to CAS.”
My reading is that if Rangers had asked for the matter to go to the CAS the SFA may well have agreed forsome reason – but they would have had the right to say no.
If there was to be a request for referral to CAS from Rangers following a second Appeal Tribunal, surely this time the SFA would definitely say no?
leftclicktic on 9 June, 2012 at 12:53 said:
Aye its no bad that, eh? I know the boy that does it… He was doing some other stuff, music ones etc…
Palacio67 –
I’m currently watching Season 4. Looks like the Netflix thing covers Seasons 1 – 3. I’ve never used it myself but see that you can get a month’s free trial – an even cheaper way to access Breaking Bad for those who haven’t yet had the pleasure!
The next few days might see our new hero, Mr Green , deciding that he better call Saul…..
If a CVA is accepted it leaves huns wide open to BTC bill cue carnage No2
They will be liquidated !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! end of,Newclub it will be, Where or when I dont know
sanctions I dont know but 1872 will be gone.
Newclub = Titles OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO zero,zilch,nada,HEE HAW
Trophies OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO zero,zilch,nada, HEE HAW
History OOOOOOOOOO born 2012 orrrrr 2013 zero,zilch,nada, HEE HAW
Chill relax and watch them die EVEN Green & whyte want them dead to make some money.
Leaving the huns in mourning and hector and all creditors kicking the carcass that is 1872 that is lying in the gutter DEAD.
Thanks Jobo .Thinking of taking my boy for his 16th birthday!
Virgin 533, ESPN Classics. Holland v Argentina.
Thought the Euros started at 5, and thought the Dutch were playing Denmark?
David v Goliath in tennis final…
leftclicktic –
Your post has got me thinking there. perhaps the best outcome might just be –
1. CVA accepted due to HMRC not opposing this – company and club carry on ‘as normal’. HMRC effectively givingup on the £18M or whatever they are currently owed
2. A mixture of season ticket sale, investment(?) and player sales flow into the club leaving it temprarilly ‘cash rich’.
3. HMRC win the Big Tax Case, and immediately instigate proceedings to get their full settlement of mega-millions forcing them into liquidation?
4. Overall, HMRC collect more than they would by opposing the CVA?
Just a thought…
Jobo Baldie on 9 June, 2012 at 14:03 said:
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Jobo, I am up to date myself with series 4, kinda in limbo now. Started watching Rome on Virginmedia. Just does’nt compare though.
No to newclub
HH
Jobo, the BTC is included in the CVA. If HMRC win the BTC it will reduce the p in a £ to about 1p. Nothing will be paid out to creditors until the BTC is known. Effectively creditors are voting on a deal that they know nothing about.
SffS
Jobo, dont be mentioning Saul Goodman to Charlie Green! That man can get anyone outta trouble! What episode in season 4 you on?
SFFS
Will there be a new article today from Paul?
What a lovely day it is…..
Don’t you just love seeing this bear on bear action?
From Alasdair Lamont at the BBC
Dave King will mount a legal challenge to block any attempted transfer of Craig Whyte’s 85% shareholding in Rangers to Charles Green.
The club director has been a vocal critic in recent days of what he believes to be the lack of transparency surrounding Green’s bid for the club.
King has previously stated that Whyte had verbally agreed to give him first refusal on his shares.
He has since told Rangers’ administrators that he can prove this.
“You have been aware for some time that I have the first right of refusal on Craig Whyte’s shares and that I will legally contest any transfer to Mr Green, if such a transfer is attempted,” King has told the club’s administrators Duff & Phelps.
“[Fellow director] Mr [Andrew] Ellis has confirmed to me by email that Mr Whyte advised him, during negotiations with Mr Ellis, of his agreement with me. The agreement is therefore not contentious and I have no doubt will be upheld before a Scottish Court.”
Green, who is leading a consortium in place to buy Rangers, has been frustrated by King’s criticism and told BBC Scotland: “We are buying this club on Thursday whether Mr King likes it or not.”
Duff & Phelps informed King on Friday that his directorship of the club was being terminated.
“There are regulatory requirements laid down by the Scottish Football Association which require confirmations to be given by the club in respect of all directors of the Company,” said Duff & Phelps in an email seen by BBC Scotland.
“As the company is currently in administration, it is not possible for such confirmations to be given to the SFA.
“This is not a reflection on any individual’s status merely a reality of the company’s position. Accordingly, where such confirmations cannot be given by a club it is pertinent to remove directors of the company.
“Given the above-noted expected change in the board of directors of the company, the removal of the present directors has now been effected at this time.”
But King responded: “Does this power extend to a director who has an agreement, such as myself, that I am entitled to a board position as long as I remain a shareholder?
“Craig Whyte and Gary Withey previously tried to remove me and were ultimately thwarted by that legal undertaking given at the time, and as a condition of, my initial investment.”
In May, Whyte told BBC Scotland that King’s claim to have first option on his shares was “categorically untrue” .
Amid King’s criticism of Green, he also backed the Blue Knights consortium, who lost out in the bidding process.
The leader of the Blue Knights, Paul Murray, told BBC Scotland: “Why are we Rangers supporters allowing a guy with no Rangers affinity and who will not disclose any proper details of his bid to buy the club?
“The fact that he has been brought to the table by Duff & Phelps, who have a lot to answer for and have chosen not to so far, should make every Rangers fan very concerned.
“The whole process needs a full investigation. It stinks and everyone knows it.”
Sensible stuff from Aberdeen fan representative on BBC radio.
SFFS – I’ve watched the first 6 episodes. Won’t say too much on here as I know that many are behind me on that. But fantastic watching how every single character has develioped / changed over the 4 seasons. Saul’s patter is fantastic and some day I’ll rewatch his scenes and pay more attention to all that he comes away with. Loved his first meeting with Skyler when he talked across her to Walter and referred to her as Yoko Ono!
celt55 on 9 June, 2012 at 14:43 said:
what was he/she saying ?
charles kickham on 9 June, 2012 at 14:50 said:
No special cases, any other club would be Div. 3
Only need 300 non renewals of season tickets to cancel the amount taken for 2 Rangers home games.
The effects of TV deal being vastly overrated by the media.