What exactly went wrong at yesterday’s Scottish Cup draw? Plastic balls can break open, that wasn’t the problem. The rule which insists that when a ball breaks open the draw must be started again isn’t the problem either. It’s a perfectly reasonable rule, but the event still can the SFA in a dreadful light.
Imagine for a moment that you had a Cup draw to arrange live on international television. You would surely acquire the materials necessary (8 balls and a bowl), and test their effectiveness (mix the balls, pull them out, open), until you were satisfied the process was robust and not likely to embarrass the organisation.
Appropriate preparations were evidently not followed for the Scottish Cup quarter final draw.
Having got to the stage that the draw went wrong, the TV masses were then treated to the most cringe-worthy pregnant pause, as SFA president, Alan McRae completely failed to communicate, either to the watching TV audience, or to the event broadcaster SKY, why he pulled a ball out of the bowl and instead of announcing the tie, declared the draw invalid.
McRae knew the ball was opened before it was drawn, and that this invalidated the draw, but clearly the glaikit-looking TV presenter had no idea what was going on when McRae halted mid-process, neither did the TV audience. A simple explanation:
“This ball is open. Rules state the draw is invalid. We will need to start again.”
….was surely what any person possessing even remote people-awareness or communication skills would have said?
No explanation was given. We were treated instead to the site of a TV presenter trying in vain to figure out why a cup draw was scratched halfway through.
The role of SFA president requires a degree of communication skills, which Mr McRae was hugely bereft of yesterday.
As for the SFA itself, I went to their official site this morning to check the spelling of McRae’s name, only to find they still list Campbell Ogilvie as president, despite McRae’s appointment 8 months ago.
It beggars belief. They just don’t care enough to get the easy things right.
As for getting Morton at Celtic Park! Ooft. After Ross County repeating their Hampden trick on us, Morton will fancy the same.
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The green man
Your a malcontent board hater, and like the SMSM go with the flow of the divide and conquer CFC, any explanation I give to you on how CFC are ran, would only be fuelling the fires, and giving you oxygen For your agenda, like others you try to get me into trouble on here, sorry won’t work, find another mug, and you can cut and paste this to you know who as well.
Tony D…
I’m not a board hater, just a board doubter on were they stand, I’ll leave it at that. HH
Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on 9th February 2016 1:03 pm
Well me being me I checked after you stated it, and as just pointed out we jointly own them with The Rangers Football Club Plc. Which as we all know, no longer exists. It seems that The Rangers International Football Club Plc did not acquire those trademarks as assets in the sale.
Trad88…,
What is that list ?
Looks like company names ?
I’m sure the info I saw was a list of assets belonging to the club which the phrase “old firm” was listed as a copy righted asset. I most likely seen it on here so if I saw it a few other did too but then most of them have probably chucked it.
Paul67,
Tis indeed: http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/morton/1342147-morton-boss-scottish-cup-change-call-after-embarrassing-draw-error/
Paragraph just below the actual video showing the actual draw and subsequent kerfuffle (sp?)
TD67
Ive never been a hater.
But when you start attacking supporters….while absolving the board from their responsibilities….i feel i need to say something.
Making things up about about splinter groups, that have no basis in fact….Im afraid you will need to do better than that.
Where is the evidence?
HH
Weeminger,
The info most likely appeared here after liquidation and was posted to prove a point, glad to know I did not imagine it. I pay attention to a lot of things I see on here and like yourself follow up with a wee bit research, this place has educated me on many many diverse subjects that have caught my imagination simply from seeing them on here, great place for learning new stuff.
Interested in Trad88’s post with what appears to be company names.
Big Swee-that one is up there for The Golden Brogue Award,they can’t help themselves
The media made up the old firm name, nothing to do with Celtic according to this, unless then again it suits your agenda, just saying like.
Open main menu
EditWatch this page
Old Firm
Old Firm derby
Oldfirm.jpg
Fans kept apart at a match between the clubs
Locale Glasgow, Scotland
Teams
Celtic
Rangers
First meeting Celtic 5–2 Rangers
(28 May 1888)
Statistics
Meetings total 400
Most wins Rangers (159)
Most player appearances Scotland Glasgow
Largest victory Celtic 7–1 Rangers
(19 October 1957)[1]
Old Firm is located in Glasgow council area Celtic ParkCeltic Park Ibrox Stadium (Rangers)Ibrox Stadium (Rangers)
Location of the two teams’ stadia in Glasgow
The Old Firm is the collective name for the Glasgow association football clubs Celtic and Rangers. The origin of the term is unclear but may derive from the two clubs initial match in which the commentators referred to the teams as “like two old, firm friends”, and represents the commercial benefits of the two clubs’ rivalry.[2] The name may also be a reference to these two teams being among the original 11 m
thank God for Paul’s input into the blog, god knows what it would look like without it
It says everything about the sfa that ogilvie is still on their website. In my last job that would have been one step away from a sacking offense.
!!Bada Bing
:) you really couldn’t make this stuff up
Canamalar
Its the results on a search on the keyword term ‘Old Firm’ via: http://www.gov.uk/search-for-trademark
Some of the ‘dead’ entries were the same term listed under different categories eg. the term ‘The Old Firm’ was regged to Celtic and Deadco under the following category and is no longer active:
‘Class 32
Beer, mineral and aerated waters and other non-alcoholic drinks, fruit juices and fruit drinks, syrups and other preparations for making beverage’
Why I don’t know,
HH
Ah from some of the responses I’m reading, it’s the belligerent buffoon today :)
The charm offensive is due tomorrow after it goes too far, it’s like groundhog day.
It’s the good life :)
The green man
Read my last post to YOU.
FIND SOMEONE ELSE.
get it?
Fans of @celticfc might be interested to know that the UEFA Youth League match against @valenciacf is live on BT Sport Europe tomorrow, 5pm.
TD67
And you can tell your pals in the VIP.
That id rather Celtic was run by Celtic supporters…Than sneaky Millionaires, Lords, and Freemasons.
HH
the board upfront? askthem whatthey are doing about stolen titles continued cheating by SFA “We can’t say but trust us we are doing things behind the scenes”
Splinter groups. Really?
You’re all so Americanised. I blame the TV shows.
Celtic are from Scotland.
Splinter groups? Naw. Skelf groups, maybe…
Trad88,
That makes weemingers info a wee bit curious in that it appears Celtic by default of the death of half the old firm Celtic own the copy right, yet as you say it’s no longer active, what does ‘no longer active’ mean ? Not being used ? No one has copy right ? No one is administering the rights ?
Could sevco go and buy the copy right and make more new claims about being the same club because they own the old firm ?
Jamesgang
Walking back from the game with you Eddie and DD I couldn’t remember a word that was on the tip of my tongue
For some reason I have just remembered it……….BELLICOSE !!! Lol
Hope you and the family are sound big yin :)
Bada…,
Thanks for that, looking forward to that now, a great we bonus to give me my Celtic fix, the weeks are too long without midweek games.
“Old Firm”,is not a term of endearment,it was coined as a slight to both clubs when an early 1900`s Cup Final replay was not played to a finish,both sets of fans rioted when players walked off,at it was announced a further game was needed,Greedy B******`s was the general opinion of the fans for once united in actio.
HH
Big Swee/ Bada,
that really is hunbelievable!
The lengths they will go to, in any attempt to besmirch/badmouth/put the boot into anything and anyone even slightly related to Celtic is pathetic.
One might even begin to think they had an agenda……
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
The Green Man says SACK THE Board
You are so paranoid, sneaky millionaires, lords and freemasons, so what if they are?
ROBERT88
Are you being serious?
I hope not.
ROBERT88
Paranoia…I think not.
Why dont you do a wee bit of research.
Thats always a good idea.
Then you will have an idea of what you are talking about:)
HH
The Green Man says SACK THE Board
Sneaky millonaire’s that give us solid backing and a good footing, Lords who are well connected in the business world, and freemasons, its a misconception, in fact most of what you said is a misconception.
The S.F.A. have just announced that Ali Bongo will do the Scottish Cup Draw next year from beyond the grave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Bongo
ROBERT88
Now here…lets get this straight.
I said that id rather Celtic were run by Celtic supporters, rather than sneaky millionaires,lords, and freemasons.
Do you prefer the the millionaires, lords, and freemasons.
Secrets….Do you like secret handshakes as well….is that why you dont mind?
You can worship at their altar if you like.
Me….im fine as i am.
Cheers:)
HH
Misconceptions indeed.
Wooft….its all there in black and white.
X-Files.
Dan Brown.
Wooooo
HH
Afternoon fellow Celts,
A big thank you to all on here who pre match wished Matthew all the best for Sunday’s game and of course those of you who praised his performance post match.
Thank you to CQN for the articles and match report that also praised him very highly.
He also received good publicity in the national press but the usual Sun headline was Matt McGinley wants to teach Celtic a lesson. An obvious pun on him being a teacher but if you didn’t know that you would think cheeky wee upstart ( he’s no wee at 6’3″) but you know what I mean
Anyway as his Dad I feared a heavy defeat and being a goalie I feared a fumble or dropped cross etc etc.
As I write this I’m looking at his man of the match champagne on the dining room table and I couldn’t be prouder.
Not so much because he is a good goalie but more that he has turned out to be a fantastic, lovely, humble young man.
Family is everything fitba comes a distant second.
Hail hail Paddybhoy1888
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 9TH FEBRUARY 2016 1:39 PM
Couple of points,
Who is the Freemason at the the club?
Can you not be a Celtic supported AND a millionaire?
No more balls ups from the SFA,they are testing this method for the semi final draw…
https://twitter.com/gregrudder/status/696773904103317505
The Green Man says SACK THE Board
Lol, Peter Lawell not a supporter or Dermot Desmond?
what percentage of shares are owned by fans?
TIMALOY29
Come on now.
As if i would reveal that:)
Are you trying to get me into trouble.
Millionaires….no problem with that….apart from their attitude to their own staff…zero hours contracts etc.
Lords….well…come on now, isnt it the 21st century.
The rest…..do your research.
HH
the murrays have a girl awwww bless
Paddybhoy-richly deserved HH
Paul67
Thanks for the push :-) and also thanks for the continued support of CQN
HH
Bundoran Bhoy