We are almost week on from Morton (our only mustn’t lose game in March) but there will be a business-like atmosphere around Lennoxtown today as the team prepare to go to Ibrox, scene of three consecutive wins since Newco were promoted to top flight football. Brendan and his players are all too aware of the big talk coming from Murray Park. If ever they needed motivation, they didn’t need to look far.
Fans of either colour, who have been around long enough, will recognise the occasion, but this is not the way you and I used to feel about going to Ibrox. Back in the old days I preferred to go there as slight underdogs, which was often as good as it got for Celtic fans. Now, we travel to every ground in the country as strong favourites, no matter what our form. This is nothing like it was in the pre-liquidation years.
I want to win, of course, but I would have been devastated if we’d lost to Morton. Sunday’s game cannot reach me the same way. This is a step on the road to what will hopefully be a treble, don’t pretend it is about winning the league, it’s just not.
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bsr
What game?
Not sure if I have said this already but
Carthago Delenda Est
Soup taker sounds right, but feels wrong when I stop and think through the context.
Unfaithful, obsequious, mendacious bawbags lacks a ring to it but covers the guilty pretty well.
HH jamesgang
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Just thinking, this match on Sunday is probably the first match domestically this season that we have had 100% focus and preparation for. Even before the opening day against Hearts we have had European distractions amongst other things which has continued right through. Even Cup finals and semi finals have followed European ties with League matches following shortly after. Brendan has been juggling the squad amongst the injuries. You could argue the schedule was clear before the game last week but lets be honest we never exited 2nd gear.
So with 8 days to prepare tactically, physically and mentally, we should be ready to go. We have no real excuses but i don’t think we’ll need any. I expect we will win and I’ve got the feeling it’ll be the day when it just clicks and all comes together. I hope so anyway.
Jamesgang:
` Soup taker sounds right, but feels wrong when I stop and think through the context.`
I agree. Another two for your list:
`grubby` `unprincipled`
JJ
Commons and the rest wiil say what they are paid to say, it will not effect the result performance tactics and team selections for Sunday, ignore his noise but dont forget what he and others have said and let each person decide are these the words of a friend of Celtic, his last pay cheque from Celtic is well cashed.
I don’t like the casual modern-day slinging-around of the term ‘soup-taker’.
I think it belittles the agonies – physical and moral – endured by Irish people during the period of the Famine.
Former players who sign up for the BBC, Sky, or whoever and adhere to an anti-Celtic editorial line aren’t ‘soup-takers’.
There’s a better word for someone who provides a service purely for money.
mit@4:39
good post.
Good evening CQNers
Very interesting reading today. There seems to be an air of apprehension about our visit to Ibrox on Sunday.
We are the Champions. We have been afflicted with serious injuries to a few of our best players but Brendan has shown confidence in the young players in the squad. Trust in the best manager Scottish football has seen since Big Jock and Alex Ferguson. Murty has given the Zombies a greater belief and has been able to introduce a few journeymen to make their team a bit better. But come on…Celtic will play them off the park on Sunday.
The double treble is on its way and only the Masonic crew at SFA can interfere with that.
WITS
I’ve followed your info for a year without capitalising. I have dabbled tonight and will be happy to contribute to any of our charitable ventures you would like to choose should your self tion win tonight.
Hail Hail
SELECTION…obviously
HH
i agree with mike, not long ago kris commons and his wife, were being lauded for all the charity work they were doing, with lisa even travelling on some supporters buses, now they are soup takers which i think is a horrible word.
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BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 9TH MARCH 2018 8:39 AM
Good Morning, Interesting debate on here over the last two days but due to pressure of business of business I haven’t been able to post on a number of points so in no particular order.
*absolutely brilliant you put more eloquently what I try to say, unfortunately, even during this holy season of lent I still can’t forget and forgive and hold grdges which flavours what I post.
I have only a couple of comments to make:
“Personally, I have not paid a single penny to any other club in Scotland over the last 5 years. I would be all for Celtic Fans Boycotting selected away matches at other clubs to demonstrate the value of The Green and White pound and the difference it makes elsewhere. If clubs will not come out and openly do what is right for football, then politely disagree with them on a point of principle and simply say that we can no longer support matches against your club in the way that we would like to. Celtic do a lot of lobbying behind the scenes but sometimes that is just not enough although I accept that this is a difficult call.”
*If my memory serves me well at the request of the supporters club we boycotted tynecastle on the second last game of the season, the League 7-in-a-row beating Wullie Maleys 6 was clinched 2 weeks previously, it was cited as a protest to a ticket price increase by the calvinists, however, it seems one of the main reasons though was in protest at the extremely poor stewarding and arrangements at the Scottish Cup quarter final game when poor arrangements outside the ground and tensions inside meant that many of the travelling Celtic support missed the start and frustrations resulted with fighting on the terraces and police intervention, only 10,000 showed up and probably mostly home fans. We also boycotted the pen in the early 80’s due to them cutting our ticket allocation to only 5000. It can be done without the finger being pointed at the club.
“If you search your social media you will find clubs like Bayern. PSG, Zenit, Anderlecht and so on now all make a point of putting out complimentary comments about visiting Celtic fans. It is not just Celtic fans admittedly but Celtic are highlighted. This is because unlike some other “rich” clubs, Celtic will bring fans in big numbers to other European Cities and that is worth a huge amount of money to the local economies of Munich, Brussels etc where these other European Clubs operate in business terms.
Celtic has always been about the value of the fans and what the fans CAN do. The fanbase is the club’s greatest asset and its greatest weapon which is why I say that at some point if Scottish Football does not want to be seen to do the right thing then Celtic, whilst still participating in Scottish Football, should seriously look at whether or not its fans want to financially support others in Scottish Football who will not actively and willfully support proper sporying competition. In Europe, those fans and the money theu bring are extremely valuable and on another occasion I will expand on how that value could increase in my opinion.”
*Exactly and it’s always been that way, in our trophy room stands a cup that we as a club are extremely proud of, the Coronation Cup. This trophy tae celebrate her majesty’s ascension onto the throne was to be competed by the best 8 clubs in the land, the Outlanders sent up the current Champions Arsenal, the previous season Champs and Charity Shield winners Manure, the previous 2 year FA Cup winners Newcastle but not surprisingly the current ones Blackpool and instead Spurs who were Champions the year before Manure, quite a strong line up.
In Scotland it was double winners deidco, League runners up by 1 goal Hibs who had been champs the 2 previous years, the sheep who were cup runners up after a replay but surprisingly not Dundee who had won the League Cup the past 2 years, instead us a team who had finished eighth in the league, been eliminated at the group stage from the LC and beaten in the quarter-finals of the SC, why? Well as my da and oulder supporters told me we always brought a good crowd with us.
As the song from that day says “To beat Glasgow Celtic, you’ll have to deport the fighting mad Irish that give them support”, or as another song says “you can take us anywhere we wont let you down”, not like others that wreck towns and cities and throw local worthies intae a fountain for a laugh.
To quote the late great TB “They’re there and they’re always there and God bless every one of them.”
“Celtic as a club and a business have huge potential which has yet to be realised but it is undoubtedly hindered because the Scottish game is viewed as poor. I am more optimistic about some of the people involved in the Scottish game today than I was 5 years ago. There are good people there and I think they can bring about the right kind of change at both the SPFL and the SFA but it will not happen overnight and there will have to be many a fight in the process.”
*That’s the way I feel, personally I don;t want tae move tae another country, I also see a change a coming with new and younger blood in the game, not all Celtic minded but at least wanting the best for their club, I also see some good young talent tae a bit like the pre-bader times, its scandalous that its 20 year ago since Scotland played in the France WC with a squad full of Celtic and ex-Celtic players plus 2 in the Danish squad.
The EBT national manager is only there for 2 years, one of the last vestiges of a dying breed and just like the start of the professional game in the country we will be at the forefront of the new model.
BSR
I knew exactly what you were up to when you used the word “staunchion” :-)
BY
dont sit on the fence. Tell us what you really think of McCann
BT NOT BY
Sevco will be dismantled on Sunday and I will be there to see the pin on their faces. It’s the hope that kills them.
This week has seen so much expectation, arrogance and above all hope. The tears will be dam salty and I can’t wait to basque in their misery. Stupid stupid huns.
Wits
Celtic and Brendan have remained silent all week and the best Lace to shut them up is on the field of play on Sunday
I hope we destroy them…
I honestly don’t wake up with the fear before a game against Sevco any more but I have been out more this week listening to the radio and it seems we are playing Man Citeh on Sunday..
(I blame Marspapa because he was in painting my house and I had to leave him in peace)
BRTH-8:39 am.Realy good post,thank you
Mahe the Madman on 9th March 2018 5:15 pm
Madman, if you forgive the term, well that was a post!
OK dealing with the issues you raied:
1. I genuinely think that Celtic would lose something, and a big something at that, if the club’s base ever moved away from Glasgow. I get that fans travel all over, from near and far, and that they have all sorts of connections to the club beyond and apart from its Geographical location.
However, the club was formed as a Glasgow Club, with its routes in and around the people who lived in and around Glasgow and Scotland. It was formed by the sons and daughters of people who came to Glasgow, many of whom were looking for a second chance and a better tomorrow.
Seattle Celtic. Birmingham Celtic, Nova Scotia Celtic none of them, no matter what the intention, will ever have the same ring to them as “Glasgow Celtic.”
Like you, if we were to move leagues or play in a second league then we should do so from Glasgow and nowhere else.
Anything else would be a secnd division fix and we are not a second division club. SoI am not keen and would prefer to stay in Scotland even if it means another 130 years of stating the case.
2. More than a club etc.
You wrote the the club always is and always will be “non profit” etc and complain that we are in the business of making Millionaires etc.
Well, sadly in my view, the ethos of Brother Walfrid was pretty quickly jettisoned and within 5 years of our starting the money generated from the gates was being used to futrther the football facilities and performance rather than feed the poor dinner tables.
John Glass and John McLaughlin in particular were very adept at securing the best players, getting them pub licences etc and setting them up for life as a side benefit of playing for Celtic and the money to the poor dwindled to a fraction of what it once was.
After incorporation into a limited company and control was gained by the families, then the charitable element of the club was down to the lergesse and whim of those same families or the generosity of the support as individuals.
That remained the case for about 100 years.
Re today, the foundation does a huge amount of work and constantly strives to be bigger and better. What to the PLC put into it? Well they pay certain wages, provide facilities and contribute in kind with goods and other assets which helps the foundation raise money and achieve its goals. Could it do more? Yes it could. But it creates a link and a platform for the foundation to achieve the charitable aspirations of the club as a whole — and by the way the foundation itself is more of the “club” for me than the PLC will ever be.
Re other foundations, I know of many that do a lot of good work but it is wrong to compare in my view as each foundation is either bigger or smaller or has different aims. Some clubs have bigger subsidised foundations but whether that makes them better I have no idea.
All I know is what I see our foundation doing and it gets stronger and better each year.
3. Scottish Football
On a business basis I see some clubs in Scoptland getting stronger financially and finding their voice and their feet. 15 years ago, David Murray had a plan to disrupt any team that stoon in Rangers way and to disrupt Scottish Football as a whole if it were necessary. I fulfilling this plan Murray was aided and abetted by the SFA and more importantly by a whole shower of unethical and self interested bankers.
If you read my post earlier ypu will gleam that I am revelling in causing a certain bank a major headache at the moment. Make no mistake some clubs were kept in the grubber by HBOS and Murray: All sorts of financial pressures were brought to bear on clubs, directors, directors businesses and all to keep Murray’s team in the ascendancy. Clubs and directors were genuinely afraid to speak out against anything Rangers fir fear of the financial consequences which they could not control.
I believe banks put pressure on clubs to sell to Rangers when they came calling about a player, and very often that player would never play a game at Ibrox as they were only bought to wealen the team concerned.
Today, other clubs are far better run, are free of the shackles and chains of the Rangers supporting bank and bit by bit they are climbing the ladder of self sustainability.
Old habits die hard and old football blazer men still hover in some corridors but I know of small clubs who have told a varoety of Rangers officials to beat it when they “demanded” they get their way.
Similarly, there are those at the SFA and at the SPFL who are a new breed and who can take the governance issues forward. Peter Lawwell named some the other week and so, yes, I am more confident and have more faith but we have a long way to go and there will be many a fight yet in private and in public, i suspect.
Re Lenny and Paul McBride, Yes Lenny was a leader and still is but it was right he should move on from Celtic when he did. Not necessarily for Celtic, but definitely for him. You never know he may be back one day?
As for Paul, God rest him, I’m afraid I used to argue with him like hell when he was a nipper as I thought he was a right Tory and our politics never mingled. We wll never know what his long term contribution could have been but he would have said that what is important is not the voice which delivers the argument, though that has to be strong, but the strength of the argument otself no matter who delivers it.
“We” are Celtic, When we were formed our fans and supporters were mainly poor, disadvantaged, downtrodden, beholden, hungry and many were scrambling a living or an existence on or below the breadline.
Today, we face a differnt type of austerity in society but one which in places unfortunately mimics the bad old days of yore where there are food banks and handouts needed in order to feed and clothe many decent folk.
However, at the same time, many of the supporers of Celtic football club are now better educated, have spread further afield through society, can speak up and challenge injustice and unfairness when they show their face or can just put forward an argument instead of having to accept what we are told. For many years, the establishment club, ruled the roost. I don’t believe it does any more. I believe that Murray killed it and that bit by bit people all over Scottish Football are beginning to believe that what was once there is now dead.
It took some time for some on our own board to realise that what was once there is gone and so it is with other clubs and football officials.
I believe that we are on the verge of a new dawn and that things you worried about last night will seem brighter in the new day.
But it will still take a bit of time for the sun to come up – and some won’t like it. Not one little bit!!
But football will be in a better place altogether though there will still be challenges to face and titles to win.
Anyway, I am away for a cup of tea and to consider the lottery numbers.
Hail Hail
BRTH
BLANTYRETIM IS PRAYING FOR THE KNOX FAMILY on 9TH MARCH 2018 6:41 PM
Wits
Celtic and Brendan have remained silent all week and the best Lace to shut them up is on the field of play on Sunday
I hope we destroy them…
I honestly don’t wake up with the fear before a game against Sevco any more but I have been out more this week listening to the radio and it seems we are playing Man Citeh on Sunday..
(I blame Marspapa because he was in painting my house and I had to leave him in peace)
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I totally agree with your comments BT ……………………..
though I wont comment on Marpapa…………;))
HH
I agree with BlantyreTim.
This week has been extraordinary. The sheer joy in Scotland at Sevco being “back where we belong” has taken my breath away.
The lies, the hatred, the supremacist calls-to-arms – like the flyer from the “Union Bears” advocating paramilitary thug-law against “fenians”.
All fuelled by the Scottish press, stoking the bonfires, while ignoring the fact that old Rangers cheated to the tune of £170 million and 22 trophies, and Sevco are intent doing the same.
I was born in Drumchapel in 1960. I took my share of kickings and being smeared with dogshit, and being told ‘we know where you live, ya Catholic c++t’.
When they died in 2012, I thought Hallelujah. Clean air.
But no. Scotland has kept their poisonous essence alive, and has fed it.
I’ve never been more disgusted with the country of my birth than I am this week.
Truly.
All of these apparent, soup takers, might have been a lot of things.
But, I don’t think that any of them would have been daft enough, to pay £49 for a boul, of Celtic Soul Soup.
Unless, they had they’re Scooby-Doo! pyjamas on ?
That would be a given.
WEEBAWBABBITY, HH Amigo.
…….oot to see the Hibbees.
Dhuvel belgian beer
all of me
why not drink all of me
can’t you see
I’m nothing without
The use of the term soup taker is an insult to all those in poverty who experienced starvation at the hands of the powerful and had to make hard choices to survive. Hh
Belgian Beer
Now your talking..Leffe Chimay yum yum
Mahe the Madman on 9th March 2018 5:15 pm
As I sit and write this in St Mary’s in the Calton it strikes me that you (along with others) aren’t considering the Spiritual connection Celtic has with Glasgow’s East End.
There are celebrations each year for Celtic in this wonderful old Church and that can never be replicated anywhere else.
Br Walfrids portrait sits at the side of the Sanctuary and reminds me every time I come into St Mary’s of where Celtic was founded and why Celtic exists.
It cannot be anywhere other than the East End of Glasgow. Anything else would, IMHO, be wrong.
As I’m here, I’ll light a wee candle for ye!
KTF
couldn’t find chamay wits – now that’s a drink
GREENINBINGLEYINOSLO on 9TH MARCH 2018 7:11 PM
I was also born in the Drum in 1960. I also remember the abuse; particularly when we were stoned as we walked to Camus Place Primary during the holidays for our free school meals.
That hatred Andy sense of entitlement has always existed and the SMSM has given it an outlet over the last few weeks.
We can put it back in its box on Sunday!
KTF
BROGAN ETC,
What’s your point exactly. Or did I miss it.
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KTF
STOP slagging Marspapa,I might need him soon:-)))
While on the subject of Belgium I for one am glad our big Belgian has proved his fitness.
HH
The minis
wəːs/Submit
adjective
1.
of poorer quality or lower standard; less good or desirable.
“the accommodation was awful and the food was worse”
2.
more ill or unhappy.
“he felt worse, and groped his way back to bed”
KEVJ / KEVJUNGLE,
When did you last go to a Celtic game, other than against the club at Ibrox ?
Fairhillbhoy
Marspapa was certainly not being bad mouthed on my part, he is a friend and 1st class professional..
And speaking of the Nuremburg-rally thing going on in Scotland this week:
I love the fact that Brendan and the team completely ignored it.
Except for him saying, in measured tones: “The pressure is on them. It’s a must-win game for them, but not for us.”
And they didn’t even feel the stiletto going in.
Stupid huns.
peterhowsonCSC