What did Juve learn from Celtic on Tuesday?

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On watching Celtic on Tuesday I wondered, ‘What will Juventus learn from this performance?’  Their scout will have left with a few notes.

Celtic can break quickly and effectively.  Both Hooper goals came as a result of moving the ball the length of the field, mostly on the deck, at pace.

Their threat from corner kicks was re-emphasised.  Charlie Mulgrew delivers the ball with sufficient pace to benefit from unpredictable movement, beyond the anticipated swerve.  This will be difficult for defenders, keeper and attackers to meet, but Celtic players clearly put a lot of work into practicing getting onto the end of these crosses.

Hopefully the scout will have learned nothing about how we will defend against Juventus as we were somewhat erratic early on against United and were not pressed thereafter.

Juventus are rightly favourites but this this is a thankless tie for them, especially when the first message delivered is ‘Don’t concede corners or free kicks in wide positions’.

They will also be alert to the dangers of being caught forward when Celtic can break effectively.  Celtic conceded through this mistake against Spartak last month but I wouldn’t expect us to leave as much empty space in defence at any point against Juventus.

My main worry about Celtic is over how much practice they are putting into penalty kicks….
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  1. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    ScotPatsFan 01:43 on 25 January, 2013

     

     

    From tomorrow’s edition of the current bun.

     

     

    I’LL BUILD A BIGGER IBROX

     

    …………………………………………..

     

     

     

    Scotspatsfan, chuckie is a bigger dick than minty. Hopefully the hun idiots buy this lock, stock and barrlel. They bought the moonbeam casino and the lights in the sky ideas so there’s no reason to believe the thick huns wont be drooling over this next fantasy.

     

     

     

    Nice………………………………..I like:-)

  2. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Petec,

     

    Come on, £700M development wasn’t that long ago, time for a new one for the stupids to get their teeth into :oD)))

  3. greenyinfurrafenian on

    Joiner 30 years. 714 for 20 years. Done ok bending nails for a livng but can’t see a future in it for me. Always thot i’d see my days out “on the bench” but no more. Its so much harder to earn a living these days. I been on sites where all the men were being paid a different hourly wage. Books in, subbies (me) agency paye and agency self-employed. Not forgetting the books in guy who’s told by his boss “don’t tell your neeburr, but i’m putting your wages up £1 an hour” when his neebs was already getting £2 more. Construction workers are the easiest to divde and conquer. In my lifetime there has never been any unity. Trade snob, the spark who look down on joiner who in turn looks down on the plasterer who thinks labourers and apprentices shouldn’t sit with tradesmen. It all sounds kinda raggedy trousers but that’s my take on it. If your young enough and circumstances allow my advice is travel. A tradesman can earn a living anywhere in the world. Natural disaster zones need rebuilt, an Olympic village gets built every 4 years, loads of hotel refurbs goin on for world cups, euros and the like. If I was 20 years younger that would be my bag

     

    greenyin

  4. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Now if I remember properly, their current capacity was as much as minty could squeeze in without demolishing and rebuilding, baron greenback must have a cunning plan.

     

    :oD)))

  5. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    So izzy, in this “must” book by Mr Newman does he indicate when this will all end? It’s just that I’m planning another few years ripping it from the oil industry and then feckin off to spain with a tall bandy legged blonde, and I dont mean Johan Mjallby.

  6. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    greenyin..,

     

    Problem being, this depression is world wide, going abroad is not necessarily a solution.

     

    Oil and defence are pretty much the only consistent employers, destruction seems to be the only growth industries.

  7. It’s such childish muppetry: I really did read the headline as ‘ I’ll build a bigger BOX ‘.

     

    The pabulum ushered forth every friggin’ day from this gallumphing clown’s facial orifice is of the perfect consistency and taste for his orkenkinder and their simple mealy-faced taste and liking of simplistic slop dished up with a hint of orange menace and red/white/blue murder should anyone dare question or deny them.

     

    The midden’s new name? ‘The Sevcopath Playground’…..works for me.

     

    They could be sponsored by this lot. I just found out you can actually buy this…..wtf?!

     

    http://www.slipperybrick.com/2008/07/the-dewalt-16-nail-gun/

  8. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    greenyinfurrafenian, a brilliant post and I concur with you overall message. Travel. Skills are sought the world over and regardless of how cynical some posters become, the quality of skills we produce in this country are still of a high level.

     

     

    I would say though that the death of the engineering apprenticeship is leaving us short of people who will go on to become brilliant engineers.

     

     

     

    Hail Hail Bruv.

  9. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Miki,

     

    Never never land falls into my Tinkerbell FC analogy, in fact I think it’s the best analogy I’ve made about them :oD))

  10. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Neilcanamaler, I’m not fussy but, just ask ma bro, but if the current mrs ACGR was to read my posts here and on other blogs it would be me would be walking like a swansea ball boy.

     

     

     

    ooooooohh aaaah Cantona.

     

     

     

    Celtic

  11. greenyinfurrafenian on

    Money is always found for the types of events I mentioned even if they have to print more. construction work always preceeds them. Agreed on the growth industries, would maybe add pharmaceuticals to that list

     

    greenyin

  12. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Breaking news…..

     

     

    Agents for the asbestos recovery agency admitted defeat today after their survey of ibrox stadium.

     

     

    Their agent was heard to say “Even we wouldnt touch that shitehole with a dutchmans pole”.

     

     

    Chuckie is assuring investors his pole is longer than the standard dutchman’s.

  13. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Send your children to Oz.

     

    They need us.

     

    We need them.

     

    Particularly Timmies.:-)

  14. greenyinfurrafenian on

    Thanks acgr, scottish engineering/engineers have always enjoyed an excellent and well deserved reputation, but in my trade the standard overall is shockin imo. there’s a real untradesman like attitude amongst a lot of joiners I come across these days

     

    Greenyin

  15. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    macjay, I can package up a 21 year old girl and a 17 year old boy in the next two weeks for you. Both are well trained and very timmish in their outlook.

     

     

    Should I bubble wrap them and will I get reimbursed for postage and packing?

  16. Big Georges Fan Club on

    Couldn’t sleep, so just came down for a wee cup of tea and a couple of custard creams.

     

     

    Read Chuckles’ latest ramblings re: increasing the size of Ibrox (or Sports Direct Arena, or whatever it will be called).

     

     

    Jeeeeeezzzzo – what a crackpot!

     

     

    Perhaps I had too much Parmesan on my pasta earlier, and I’m still in bed dreaming that complete load of bollocks – …top League in Europe…fill in the corners…new tier on the Govan Stand…bigger than Celtic Park – mental!!!!

     

     

    Huns – deserve what they get.

     

     

    I’m away back up to see if I’m still sleeping…

     

     

    BGFC

  17. neil canamalar lennon hunskelper extrordinaire

     

     

    02:09 on 25 January, 2013

     

    greenyin..,

     

    Problem being, this depression is world wide, going abroad is not necessarily a solution.

     

    Oil and defence are pretty much the only consistent employers, destruction seems to be the only growth industries.

     

     

    —–

     

     

    I live in perth , oz. plenty of work here and very well paid. Iv no trade and never really bothered me until i came here. My mate just got trades assistant job in the mines, 4weeks work then 1 week off. $3k per week. Mines is set up that u basically cant spend ur money those 4weeks. Digs,food etc all provided.

     

     

    Anyone who has no kids should consider coming here, 4/5 yrs hard work will nearly set you for life if you want to go back home where cost of living is alot cheaper than here.

     

     

    Would love to do apprenticeship myself out here but very very expensive for non resident, still thinking about it as money on offer once your qualified is very good.

  18. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    greenyinfurrafenian, my brother in law is in the building trade. He’s a brickie, he’s also a hun but I digress.

     

     

    He is an extremely skilled man who has built some “stuff” for me at my gaff when it was new, he’s built his last two houses too and the quality of his workmanship is breathtaking.

     

     

    He’s struggling to earn a crust these days which saddens me because he’s a good guy and a great worker…………………..for a hun.

  19. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    A Ceiler Gonof Rust

     

     

    02:42 on 25 January, 2013

     

     

     

    26yo son

     

    23yo daughter

     

    19yo son

     

    All house trained.

     

    Interesting tastes in music and ingested substances.

     

    Sounds like compatibility to me.

     

     

    Reimbursement? Yer talkin` tae a Jock.

  20. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    proudbhoy,

     

    Got a couple of pals engineers in the mines in oz, they are telling me things are slowing down, china is slowing down and that’s been driving the world economy for the last 30 years.

     

    China’s manufacturing output is dropping so the market for raw materials slow down.

     

    I hope I’m wrong and it might take a couple of years but IMO oz will feel it in a couple of years mayby even sooner.

  21. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    macjay1, looks like I’ll need to put these wee parasites up for sale on ebay then.

     

     

    I just want them off my ticket if you know what I mean………………….Like that will ever happen, ffs.

     

     

    Next season the bhoy ACGR is a full price ticket at paradise. Mammy daddy, Awe Naw!

  22. greenyinfurrafenian on

    ACGR Hope your bro inlaw gets work soon. Gotta get some sleep. there’s skiving to be done tomorrow,

     

    Greenyin

  23. neil canamalar lennon hunskelper extrordinaire

     

     

    02:55 on 25 January, 2013

     

    proudbhoy,

     

    Got a couple of pals engineers in the mines in oz, they are telling me things are slowing down, china is slowing down and that’s been driving the world economy for the last 30 years.

     

    China’s manufacturing output is dropping so the market for raw materials slow down.

     

    I hope I’m wrong and it might take a couple of years but IMO oz will feel it in a couple of years mayby even sooner.

     

     

    —–

     

     

    Aye china is the boss basically, but iv been at 2 mine sites recently, both iron ore and they are both brand new camps.. Holds around 1500 in each camp and there built with enough work in the pits for 15/20yrs.

     

     

    Cost hundreds of millions just to set up before production. Plenty of work i say.. Also perth has so much land its unbelievable so hopefully with growing population houses keep gettin built. Nothings guranteed but its all good at minute.

  24. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    The Aussie downturn has been predicted for years…

     

    and years….

     

    and years.

     

    Inevitably it will happen and then we will cry all the way to the beach.

     

     

    Ceiler.The world is their oyster.Still true.

  25. Im only planning another 4/5yrs out here. Then back somewhere closer to derry and Paradise. Too far away out here.

  26. Ricky Tomlinson & Construction

     

     

    Why can’t we know the truth about a strike that happened 40 years ago?

     

    I was one of the 24 Shrewsbury building workers jailed after industrial action. And I won’t know why for another 10 years

     

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    Ricky Tomlinson

     

    The Guardian, Tuesday 22 January 2013 19.22 GMT

     

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    Des Warren and Ricky Tomlinson in 1975. Warren, who was also a union organiser, got three years in jail; his prison records still haven’t been released. Photograph: PA

     

    Forty years and still no justice. It’s a part of history now, but a history that has never been fully told. The Shrewsbury building workers’ strikes of 1972, which saw 24 working men convicted for crimes they did not commit, are nothing short of a state-sanctioned conspiracy. And as the youngest of us is now 68, I’m nearly 74 and the eldest of us is 84, we worry that the truth will not out before it’s too late.

     

     

    We now know, thanks to the current government, that papers pivotal to the case will not be released for another 10 years – a decision that was taken by the Ministry of Justice without consulting any of us who have survived. And so the question remains: who is this government, like Edward Heath’s government of the early 1970s, trying to protect? What are they hiding? Why is it that in a modern democracy, in a so-called age of transparency, that we have to struggle for the truth?

     

     

    The strikes of 72 were the first and only organised building workers’ strikes in Britain. I am proud to have been part of them. What’s rarely remembered is what we were striking against. Not only low pay, but dehumanising conditions. On a site with hundreds of men, we’d be given two rat-infested, filthy toilets. Should you get soaked in the rain as you worked, there was nowhere to change. Either you headed home and lost your pay or continued to work, sodden and freezing. In 1973 alone, there were 231 fatal accidents in construction. I used to say that the then baron, Sir Edwin McAlpine, would not be allowed to keep his race horses in such conditions. It was a national disgrace.

     

     

    In September of 1972 we organised what was a fractured workforce, labouring sporadically on temporary sites. We hired six coaches and picketed each of the large sites around Shrewsbury. The police accompanied us at every step but it was peaceful throughout – nobody was even cautioned. A few weeks later I found myself charged with 27 offences and was later thrown into Leicester prison on a two-year sentence for “conspiracy to intimidate”.

     

     

    Of course all the convictions were based on lies and fabrication. Many of the men on trial had never even met before but stood accused of conspiring together. Little Mackie Jones, our union treasurer who went from site to site, raising funds, wasn’t even present at the time our conspiracy was supposed to have taken place. And so the impression of an organised conspiracy was created. The reality couldn’t have been further from this picture. I was held in solitary confinement as I refused to work or wear clothes. The prison governor, a former bricklayer who retired from the trade after developing arthritis in his hands, took pity and handed me a copy of Robert Tressell’s The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists – a book that remains the building worker’s bible.

     

     

    My treatment was not the worst. Des Warren, another organiser and close friend of mine who received three years in prison – the harshest sentence of all – was regularly made to drink the “liquid cosh”, a cocktail of tranquillisers that numbed inmates and gave you the hundred-mile stare. Dezzie died in 2004, of what his wife describes as “drug-induced Parkinson’s” – and we’re still fighting to see his prison records to prove the link between his death and his treatment in prison.The imprisonment and sustained intimidation destroyed families and communities. My children would often have disapproving fingers waggled in their directions, and even now my two beautiful grandchildren experience it. People still don’t know the truth. The stigma of arrest and imprisonment was so great that some of the convicted hid it from their children for decades. I only came to my career in entertainment as I could not find any work elsewhere – I was turned away at the gates many times.

     

     

    What now? As the victims of the Hillsborough tragedy begin to receive justice and the IPCC launches an investigation into Orgreave, it is time for the government to grant truth to us as well. We want the evidence laid bare. That our prosecutions and imprisonment were brought about through collaboration between government, police and the construction industry. That myself and Dezzie were put under surveillance by MI5, and that what happened was a an organised attack against trade unionism. That we were the victims, not the perpetrators of a conspiracy. If it were any other country we’d read this secret history with contempt.

     

     

    A member of our campaign committee, Eileen Turnbull, has carried out extensive research into our case. She has discovered evidence which indicates there was government interference in the charges that were brought against the 24 pickets in 1973. Based on this evidence, we lodged an application to the Criminal Cases Review Commission on 3 April 2012. We believe the commission after considering the evidence will refer the case to the court of appeal, where after 40 years the miscarriage of justice will once and for all be overturned.

     

     

    As I stood in the dock 40 years ago I told the court before sentencing that I had “been led to believe [we] had the finest legal system in the world. Now I can only fear for the working people of this country …” The establishment’s continued attempt at a cover-up makes me feel the same way again.

     

     

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/22/truth-about-shrewsbury-24-strike

  27. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Macjay, I completely agree and my hopes for my wee ones are that they are happy and healthy.

     

     

    Anything else is a bonus.

     

     

    Hail Hail Bro