Sell fans a ticket, you owe them a game of football. Whether the standard or result it good or bad, it’s a relatively easy commitment to keep. That’s what fans get in return for spending money on a ticket.
Sell people shares, you owe them a share certificate. That’s what shareholders get in return for coughing up for shares.
Borrow money from fans and you owe them much more than a game of football or a share certificate. In many instances that money will have come from people who had to forgo things to provide you with the loan. You owe them a duty of care that their loan will be repaid, or converted with their agreement.
It beggars belief that an unsecured loan has been offered to Rangers International by fans group, Rangers First. If, as claimed, the obligations to Sports Direct have been met, the club will have both the ability and the incentive to pass the securities previously held by Sports Direct to the fans group. The club’s IP, training ground and ancillary assets should now be unencumbered, who better to have security over these critical parts of the club than a fans group?
Unless, of course, the obligations to Sports Direct have not been met. Or someone else has their eye on the assets.
The claim that Dave King would match Rangers First’s loan took me by surprise. This was counter to everything I knew and expected of him. His swift denial was more consistent with expectations.
There is an axiom in football: Any club who has enriched a PR individual to the tune of £500k in the last year is making a serious attempt to divert it’s fans attention. Celtic’s PR machine deals with the efficient communication of football information and financial reports. Nothing whatsoever is spend attempting to lead the news agenda. This often leaves us on the receiving end of that agenda, but we have nothing to hide. Which is the way it should be.
Few sights in business or football can be more alarming than when purportedly wealthy people borrow money from poorer people. The warning signs are writ as tall as the Ibrox stands. This time there is no hidden Ticketus deal people can claim they didn’t know about.
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SFTB
Just clicked on the link you providing and saw this:
“NOTE (SFTB) Your comments are as welcome as a Scottish new Labour MP at Westminster, the only thing that your hero Kelly is interested in and campaigning for is to retain his meal-ticket, I have contempt for all politicians with a special personal distaste for the ‘working class warriors’ of new Labour.
There are other outlets for your party political broadcasts, enjoy. We are almost in 2016 and the Scottish working class no longer blindly back the smug chancer with a red rosette.”
An Tearmann may have been referring to this
You been winding them up?
HH
CRC
Friday night is the night for questions (and music).
Firstly, thanks for the earlier PC advice. Selected Henke’s Flowing Locks as my first option but noted the others too, thank you.
So next question. Saw recently some folk talking about a Netflix series Making A Murderer. Can anyone clarify for me – is it a documentary featuring the real folk, is it a documementary that’s based on a true story (so involving actors) or is it just made to look like a real life documentary but is in fact a fictional series?
As always, thanks in advance ;-)
St Stives
There has been rumours for a few days about an arrestment being made against the huns.
One of the mods on KDS has posted that he heard about it a few days ago, but it seems that it’s no a rumour but a goer, it’s on their sevco thread.
HH
Sipsini
Thanks pal. This weekend is a wee warm up for Dublin this Easter.
Catchye soon.
Hail Hail
Stolen from Twitter, made me laugh –
keri @kerihw 3h3 hours ago
Guy who did the Laughing Gnome has got a new album out.
Mon the Mighty Exeter!
Intae them Scousers! :)
Jobo Baldie on 8th January 2016 8:29 pm
So next question. Saw recently some folk talking about a Netflix series Making A Murderer. Can anyone clarify for me – is it a documentary featuring the real folk, is it a documementary that’s based on a true story (so involving actors) or is it just made to look like a real life documentary but is in fact a fictional series?
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It’s a documentary (true story) with the actual people involved, interviews, courtroom footage etc. Great thing with the modern age, most things are recorded.
Excellent viewing.
It’s interesting watching Liverpool since Klopp took over, very similar to how Ronny had us playing after the initial teething problems (and yes before the usual post I don’t know what’s happened to that style of football this season).
Liverpool are also suffering major injuries problems which are being blamed on training to much.
Hello again all you young rebels.
Been reading The winds of change by Alex Gorden which the wee mhan
bought me for christmas and in it he describes my favourite goal of all
time beautifully, now i’ve seen some crackers in my 60 odd years
following the Bhoys, wee jinky at the midden with his left foot, Dixie in
a cup final against hibs , big Sutton with a bullet header against Ajax and
big bad John against liverpool but for sheer skill and artistry Henke’s
chip against the dark side will never be surpassed imo. here is Alex’s
brilliant description of it in what is a great book.
A clearance from Gould was directed into the Swede’s path by the quick
thinking Sutton. There was still a lot of work to be done with Tugay
racing in to challenge and Konterman barring his way to the penalty box..
Almost disdainfully, Larsson eliminated the Turk with a burst of pace, the
nervous looking defender Konterman was treated with the utmost
contempt as the ball was knocked between his legs before the solo move
was delightfully completed with a nonchalant flick over the head of the
transfixed Klos from eighteen yards. It was simply breathtaking in it’s
artistry and execution.
Now that is a wordsmith at his best and describes a goal by a Maestro
i dont think can be beat, mind you i hope i do see one to beat it but if
not then hopefully you young rebels will.
H.H Mick
Melbourne Mick 8.52.
Just beautiful, it’s also my favourite all time Celtic goal.
I remember at half time 3.1 to us saying to my son I wish it was full time. Thank goodness it wasn’t, what a goal by the King of Kings. Also Rangers fans had mocked the Celtic players when the team’s were announced that day with ironic cheers. On the way home it was revenge time as we chanted oh you’re no laughing noo because we gubbed you 6.2. Magic memories.
crc@ 8.26
Thanks for that. That must have been an addition to the article long after the fact. I was totally unaware that it was there.
Just to re-assure you of the nature of my “winding up”. I read the article, saw that all the comments seemed to be supportive of the “Vote SNP” message of the article, and I posted my alternative message.
As I said, I believe I have posted on the site before; I don;t know Joe McHugh, to my knowledge, and therefore expected my post to be accepted. But it did not appear. It did not appear under an “awaiting moderation” status. It just never passed the blog owner’s standards of acceptability whatever they were. I tried to male the same or similar post about 3 or 4 times that day but gave up as I thought, up to today, that there must have been a technical fault. I received no acknowledgement of my post, I got no reply on the day telling me it was not wanted and that element you posted, added to the article, was not there on the site when I checked the next day.
So, now I know I was blocked.
And the guy who blocked me has the hypocrisy to accuse me of electioneering. His whole article was about mobilising Celtic supporters votes to back the SNP. As a blog owner he has every right to block any posts he wants. He has every right only to publish those viewpoints that fall in line with his own. But he has no grounds to accuse me of electioneering when he is on the SNP bandwagon ( so much for contempt of all politicians).
That Video Celts site does not entertain dissent- fair enough- now that I know that I can make my own judgement. I invite any of you to make yours.
The Huddle
An interesting post. I was watching Liverpool the other night and admiring the energetic movement, tempo and pressing. It looked just like the kind of football Ronny wants to see from us (but is not getting).
The price though, was no fewer than 3 hamstring injuries!
Maybe players need time for their bodies to adjust to playing football this way, with the kind of athleticism and intensity we see from the top tennis players. Just a thought.
Melbourne Mick
That goal was even better the fact that Henrik had far better chances (& Klos had made some great saves before that) Henrik could have scored a hattrick that day before the chip, my favourite part of the goal was the wee ball bhoy behind the goal jumps about 6ft off the ground as the rest of the stadium hold their breath !!!!
Gerryfaethebrig
I think i jumped higher than that wee bhoy, dangerous at my
age but my god it was worth it.
H.H Mick
MM
The only goal that comes close to the Henrik chip was the Chic Nick Flick in Amsterdam.
My first time abroad watching Celtic. Spent all day in a Coffeeshop and floated to the Olympic Stadium.
When it’s spring again,
We will sing again,
2-1 in Amsterdam.
Sftb
Surprised at Joe as he has been at KSC for Cqn nights and thought he was quiet open to good debate
6 2 game.
Why did we let them get 2?
I blame the Board.
SFTB
Two sides to every story and ever opinion is a rubbish one :-)
Catch you tomorrow at 5s and I hope there are no tunes from the nearby neighbours?
HH
CRC
Jimmynotpaul.
At 6-2 i was undecided , do i want the game to end now or
go for more goals, but what if the dark side score again but
then henke might score again, decisions, decisions.
H.H Mick
For Hamiltontim: as a thank you in advance for Sunday
http://youtu.be/3BdFUe_V_2Q
Re the Liverpool injury situation there was a good interview on Talksport yesterday – think it was with the Dutch Coach that used to be with Wales when Gary Speed was the manager. He basically said that Jurgen Klopp was a ‘school teacher’ type manager and was inflexible in his approach no matter the situation or surroundings. So despite a number of high intensity games and a lot of injuries he continues to play the same way……sound familiar?
Apologies to all School Teachers out there who obviously are paid more and have more hols than Jurgen :-)
CRC
Always three sides to every story.
Your’s, his and the truth. :)
Melbourne Mick 9.20.
I remember at 5.2 thinking, I know I’m being a greedy individual but please can we get 6. I had witnessed 5.1 but never 6. When big Sutty scored it was pure joy.
D.D. Great shout about Charlie in Amsterdam. Another classic goal, in my opinion, would be Judas in 5.0 game at Love St, all started by Danny in our own box. Enjoy Stranraer I’m sure you will all have a blast.
DD
Ha true. Enjoy the trip with the bhoys over the weekend and say hail hail to Almore for me
HH
CRC
Almore.
That H.T Is a total lightweight. I went up to Dingwall in November with him.
He slept all the way back on the supporters bus. Well either he’s a lightweight or it was my patter that sent him to sleep.
Incidentally we were talking about songs that used to be sung, in the jungle, that we hardly here anymore.
I’ll sing you a song of a terrible wrong CSC.
CRC: Hello:-). Will do the wait watchers thing, keep meaning to email. Maybe see you on 23 Jan.
D.D
Thought about that goal as well but Henriks was against
the darkside , enough said.
H.H Mick
JNP
Agree re Judas at Love Street.
Have a great photo of me on the pitch that day.
One of the best days of my life.
The Walk On through Renfrew by the Clydebank, Yoker, Drumchapel and Knightswood Tims walking to the Ferry will live with me forever. Rod Stewart’s Sailing on the ferry was amazing too. Happiest of times.
Jimmynotpaul: You and I both know he’s a lightweight. Just don’t tell anyone else:-)
http://youtu.be/oaNlN7WuoDg
Bhillyreidcsc
MM
A goal against Glasgow’s Forces of Darkness trumps a goal against Amsterdam’s version.
Both scum fans.
JNP
I will sing a song in tribute to Billy Reid in Stranraer.
MWD
That post at 5.33, was absolutely brilliant
For those who missed it watch this
The Carluke Shamrock Team Erin going by MWD post – 26 mins lomg mind :-)
https://www.facebook.com/rswan1967/videos/10154486697257468/
Jobo, my Whife has watched that series, and daughter is currently watching just now on episode 7, both say it’s very good
Hail Hail
JNP
A great crowd had gathered…….
Jungle favourite.
James Connolly Dublin 2016. Scots/Irish rebel.
UTLR
Lost a penny found a pound
Serandippety
HH
D.D.
Again magic memories and as you say happiest of times.
I’ve posted this story before but my best friend Billy Clark,who is sadly no longer with us, persuaded me to go that day. We stayed in Nitshill so Love St just along the road. I had a substantial bet ante post on Dancing Brave to win the 2000 Guineas that day the race was at 3 o’clock and I wanted to see it. No smartphones in those days. Billy badgered me for about an hour in the pub, saying things like do you really want to miss history to watch a race. I was a real doubting Thomas but he made me believe, for that I will always be thankful. It was such a last minute job that we had missed the supporters bus and had to jump a taxi. Billy could easily have gone on the bus but he stayed with me until I came to my senses. At half time, in what was unusual for the time, the St Mirren D.J. announced that Dancing Brave had won the 2000 Guineas, Celtic were 4.0 up I would gladly have given up ever penny for a Dundee goal.In the end I didn’t have to and it was a perfect day.What a night that ended up.
Almore
Good Evening
Sent you a couple of emails re Fatbhoys
23rd sounds a plan for a couple of beers. Will be weighing in on the Friday that week :-)
HH
CRC
CRC
Thank you pal. Will do.
Hail Hail
*** LAST MAN STANDING 6 – WEEK 5 ***
Ah, the excitement of Scottish Cup Eve and the dreams of Hampden in the Sun. With 42 left standing here are the choices for cup weekend. You may notice that the totals add up to 43. That’s because the game involving Bada Bing’s choice last week was postponed but there were no remaining games to choose from. So he has 2 picks this week.
With that in mind, and given the wintery weather today, please make sure that you know what to do if your game this week gets called off. So the relevant rule is below followed by this week’s choices – these are the numbers in brackets within the fixture list.
Good luck!
Jobo and CRC
Rule 10 (revised)
10. POSTPONEMENTS: (a) If any of a particular week’s fixtures is called off more than 3 hours prior to kick off, anyone who has picked from that game must send in a new pick, provided there is a game still available involving at least 1 team they haven’t yet chosen – otherwise I’m afraid you’re out (but see rule 6 above). (b) But if a game is called off with less than 3 hours to kick off, anyone who has picked from that game can either (i) send in a new pick – OR – (ii) make 2 selections from the following week’s fixtures. For both (a) and (b) if there is absolutely no other game available to choose from you then have to go with the ‘2 picks next week’ option. SO THERE’S RESPONSIBILITY ON THE INDIVIDUAL COMPETITOR HERE.
The fixtures for Week 5 – all 3.00pm kick offs unless shown differently
Saturday 9th January
Airdrie (1) v Dundee Utd (10)
Arsenal (1) v Sunderland
Dunfermline v Ross County (3)
Norwich v Manchester City
Raith Rovers v Hibs (1)
St Johnstone (6) v Kilmarnock
Hearts (1) v Aberdeen (5.30pm)
Manchester Utd (12) v Sheffield Utd (5.30pm)
Sunday 10th January
Stranraer v Celtic (4) (3.15pm)
Tottenham (4) v Leicester (4.00pm)