I’m told by a broadcast journalist friend that Jim Traynor, of PR company Level5, started Newco Rangers broadcast media conference yesterday with a warning to journalists that discussion about title stripping was off limits.
The law was that if manager Mark Warburton was asked about the proposed sanction for Oldco Rangers financial doping the conference would be stopped.
Say what you like about journalists, but they regard being told what to ask, or not to ask, as a line in the sand issue. Traynor, a journalist for decades, should have known better than to make such a rookie mistake.
He was told that attempts to subvert discussion about Oldco being stripped of titles is not something that would be accommodated. By the broadcast media, anyway.
Warburton was subsequently asked about title stripping and although he was happy to answer, I’m told, this angered the would-be news-denier, whereupon he “lost his temper”.
Post-conference there was a bit of chat about how they would be able to appropriately report on less-partisan issues, like the Level5 PR-controlled Ladbrokes SPFL, although there was a consensus that “He’ll fall out with everyone soon enough. He always does”.
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Ron,
I think many people’s feelings are based upon more than one game in Europe. Sure we shall lose now and again. I accept that. I also accept that RD lost his central defence and that is a big blow. The problem is deeper than this. Remember Malmo? They had to re-build their team this year but they easily defeated us.
Can you imagine what would happen under this manager if we did get a move to a better league?
His appointment was a gamble worth taking, but it has been a failure in growing the club., if the ambitions lie outside the bubble that is Scottish football.
Rebus
Tonights evening news Rhamon Bagwash and all about the Molde game and interview with Ronny why are you so bad then two minutes about a meeting at Hamdump about the huns but its a secret they are not telling anything about the meeting.The masonic cabal saying nothing to see here timmy but have a look at the state of Celtic. Its amazing the number of CQN posters who want to help them by kicking there own club ( strange that ). H.H.
I don’t know who had the final say on Simunovic starting,but he was nowhere near fit,and it wasn’t the tackle on him that crocked him,we wasted a sub there.
Tontine Tim 5:27pm
You are spot on – Sir EBT killed Scottish fitba although it’s a slow and painful death.
With regards to last night, if Broony, VVD and Jason Denayer were playing then I think we might have seen a different outcome.
It says to me that we generally lack leaders – and that the current central defence combos look like they won’t make the grade.
Is that really Ronys fault ? Genuine question…
BADA BING. The review at the end of the season would decide wither we trust Ronny in the CL qualifyers next season if we win the treble and the team is clear of injuries I can see no reason why we wouldnt give him another tilt at Europe. H.H.
Bada.
The tackle on big Simo was Moldas? Second attempt at putting him out of the game. He was attacked in the first min out on the touchline. 3 mins later they got the job done.
Cowiebhoy from page 1,
Agree pathetic article from Paul67. Rome is burning and we are talking about Jabba.
Sweep sweep to his masters bidding.
Lawwell has cost us £50M in CL revenue and has downsized Celtic to Dundee Utd level and the day after the latest embarrassment , Paul67 wants to talk about Jabba.
OK Paul67 what does he have on you ? Spill the beans because it’s pathetic your attempts to change the subject from the shambles at Celtic Park.
Try and remember when you acted like a Celtic supporter not Lawwells puppet.
Where have all those hilarious CQN “crisis” headlines gone? That joke not funny any more?
molde must be ronnie’s tipping point –
Away leg – failure to adapt to the game
Home leg – failure to respond to the away leg
The two together represent a significant problem with leadership of the team
molde must the board’s tipping point
Purchase based on potential – can easily lead to a shockingly poor squad
Appointment of a manager on a learning curve – leads to unknown areas of performance in the future
The two together should lead a monumental change of direction.
Anyway
Happy 128th Birthday to the team my wee da brought me up to support.
Thanks Dad.
Cowiebhoy, Fella there is no shambles at Parkhead we lost a game with 10 players without our captain while being forced to play two injured players. We are still heading for a successful season of domestic honours Europe is going to take a little longer for Ronny and Celtic to conquer but shambles not at all. H.H.
*areas of weak performance*
As long as guys from the Celtic Trust are around, you can bet that Celtic will get it in the neck every opportunity they get, and that’s a fact, as I said, not one thing about the Huns cheating us and other supporters, not a thing on that website, don’t know about anyone else, I find that freekie and strange, very strange actually. And the answer from the spokesperson there “it’s called Celtic Trust, why should we talk about other clubs”? Sais it all I suppose. Not fit for purpose, and by that I mean they don’t speak for me.
Latchford
Try and remember when you acted like a Celtic supporter
You’ve set the bar way too high for yourself there.
Joe,
Unfortunately, i think you are correct. He will not resign and he will, probably, not be fired, if at all, before the end of the season. If firing is on the cards, it would be a mistake to leave it until the end of the season because it leaves too little time for the new manager to organise the team. If he stays, prepare for the same story as the last two years.
To those who think it is wrong to criticise the club when it underperforms, would you continue to buy a light bulb that went out before its time, or would you take it back to the shop and complain? If the former, you ate truly in the dark!
Rebus
50 Shades-i might be being harsh mate,didn’t take much to have him subbed imo HH
JFH
It’s a waste of time, talking to them, let then give oxygen to the Huns and SMSM, supporters my arse, every opportunity they put the boot in, I get it it’s they’r opinion, but ffs, take a day aff Wull yi.
BBC Scottish evening news nothing at all about the huns ( disgusting ) an Interview with Ronny”” do you think you will keep your job” ? We on CQN should see there agenda and support our manager while continueing to force them to address the cheating huns. H.H.
“Are” not “ate”. Well, maybe!
Rebus
I will continue to suppprt the manager
Not interested in sacking him
Made up my mind he needs time to get it right in a consistent manner
This team can play
– unlucky with the unsettled central defenders
– injuries
Im confident he will get it right
Oh and this pish anout needin the reincarnation…….
Do me a favour.
Ron
You are of course correct I couldn’t win the league – not by myself anyway!
However if I was in charge of the group of players that we have then I would win the league.
I for one don’t buy in to the WGS line that unless you played the game you don’t know what you’re talking about! I take it that The Special One at Chelscum would back me up on that !
Football is a simple game – you need a balance between attacking and defending.
Ronnie does not seem to have grasped that basic concept yet!
HH
JFH.
Seriously they asked him that?
Ffs
Tony Donnelly 67 6.52pm
“But ffs take a day aff wull yi”
You do irony really well
A constant and bright spotlight should be kept on Chubba and his black art organisation……………
The conflict of interest at play here is astounding of forehead.
Him and his are the enemy of Celtica.
Strip those titles.
I feel sorry for Ronny. let me tell you why.
He’s been promoted to a great team whose directors are only interested in the bottom line. Fine, we should watch the pennies for sure.
Speculate to accumulate , we’ve all heard of this. However, there is BIG money to be had from CL revenue, but hey, we never get there do we. We buy 3 players from Dundee United who are a stand out in SPL but nowhere else. None of them are Celtic class, none of them. So what am I saying?
We need to spend biggish money and attract players who are CL class, not SPL class, then we qualify for Cl and get the dividends on offer. Not that clever, but why don’t we do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve supported Celtic since the late ’50’s so I’ve seen all there is to see as far as quality is concerned.I mean we had the like of Henke, Lubo, Hartson and Sutton in our team and we did not go bust. So why can’t we do the same again ffs.
I’m sure Ronny will get the team together if given time which I doubt he wll get but the fact remains like a top chef given a bowl of sand, he will be asked to create something which no man alive can create given the ingredients.
Onward and upward
Hail Hail
KINGLuBO
REBUS67. Fella this is Celtic we are talking about a Scottish club playing in a back water league and yet not only do you want the manager to win the domestic treble you now want him to make us a top performing European club.You Bhoys are raising the job spec.and in my opinion you are deluded.The best we will get in Europe is an odd shock win to enjoy we are no longer a European force wake up and smell the coffee. H.H.
Bournesrecipe,
Surely Paul67 can defend himself to an actual Celtic supporter. Happy to say I have never been Lawwells puppet although we have had a couple of exchanges. Unfortunately a brother of mine advises Lawwell and I know too much…..however as I am only in the country now and again I don’t take advantage off it.
Trust me Lawwell is absolutely destroying Celtic.
Bada.
It was my first thought as well, the second tackle (and I haven’t seen it on TV ) looked to be not as serious as the first.
Hope I’m wrong but beginning to think we have been Duped lol.
And we all know what happens after that :-)
God help us
EBT Rae tellin us we are missing the club that died.
F……in Zombie
50 SHADES OF GREEN. I cannot remember the exact words but if you look back you should be able to find it.Ronnys answer was Celtic have given previous managers time and he would expect the same. H.H.
Good Eveneing,
A friend of mine tweeted last night: ” Bitton doesn’t fancy it – the form of Johanson and Gordon is a mystery” and with that she summed up Celtic in a oner!
Ronny Deila was brought to Celtic Park to change the way we do things, bring on young talent, and arrest or at least delay the reliance on selling your best players every two years.
Our policy of buying in young talent and then selling at a high price is great ( when it works ) for the P&L but it doesn’t create a team. Any policy that involves a revolving number of 22 or 24 players who are constantly in transition will never create “a team”.
Yet the success of OUR team is the core function of the Celtic PLC business. The board could open up the Kerrydale suite and the stands every second week and just use them as bars or as open air seating to watch the TV on the big screen just as easily — but you wouldn’t get the numbers or the revenue.
That is because we come to watch a Celtic TEAM and in so doing to believe in the club.
I was speaking to a Celtic official the other day and the issue of Lord Livingstone came up with him telling me that Celtic is a broad church and all the usual mantras.
I listened politely and then said I had no doubt that Livingstone was a Celtic fan and that was fair enough. I also said that it is also fair enough if he wants to answer a three line whip issued by the Tory party on a debate about Welfare cuts. That too is his right.
But can he answer the latter call and really be a representative of what Celtic Football Club stands for and was meant to stand for from its inception?
In the absence of any statement or PR from the gentleman concerned explaining his reasoning, it appears that many think he cannot answer the Tory whip and represent them and Celtic at the same time as the two are incongruous.
Further, another Celtic fan, who is a senior executive of a multinational corporate, told me recently that he came away from a recent match, where he was invited into the boardroom, in a state of total and utter dismay at the outlook and opinions expressed by some of the Non Executive Directors.
He cited no or little ambition for Celtic, no innovation in terms of business and a general lack of interest when it came to the notion of “business” on the park or away from it. In particular, there was no “identification” with the fans – or as he put it ” no identification with your immediate customer base” which he thought was criminal.
Celtic, is a football club and football is at it’s very heart. However, it also has the care of the poor and disadvantaged running right through its veins. I have often asked the question:”Which is the most important word of the three? Celtic, Football or Club?”
For me, the answer is easy: We are first and foremost a club — a gathering of people who organised and came together for a common purpose. That purpose was to create, build and support a football team which we would financially support and watch with objective being that the financial the proceeds of that support would then be used to help those who were poor, starving and disadvantaged. In other words, we were to be a club for the common good and we would play and support under a proud name that included everyone in the land – and that land was Scotland and beyond –
without fear or favour: Celtic!
Of course that simple vision was hijacked very quickly and Walfrid’s dinner tables were jettisoned in favour of buying in and paying the best players with no money going to the poor. After incorporation, only a few families and individuals “owned” Celtic and they managed the club with varying degrees of success over the years paying some acknowledgement to the charitable routes of the club — but not much to be honest!
However, what we did have at times was a playing ethos and a belief that for good or bad the players who took to the park would run till they died for the jersey and the club — and therefore for the rest of us.
Post Stein, We also developed a reputation in the modern game for great football, for a tremendous support which showed the football world how to support, how to travel and support and how to lift a team.
Henrik Larsson said that the support made you want to run faster, jump higher, run longer and simply be a better player.
Today, though we are a disjointed outfit in Europe. Our team didn’t look interested last night and our manager, clearly a good man and a nice man, looked on and could only scratch his head with no idea how to change it. It was not the first time that had happened.
As a business, unless we aspire to the expectations of our core customer base we will never succeed.
Those expectations are not to win every game but to put a team on the park which is exciting, tries its heart out and is assembeled and given a fighting chance within a reasonable financial budget by those who look after the purse strings.
The amount of money that comes through the Parkhead gates should produce a better team than this. With no disrespect to Molde or anyone else, logically Celtic should be better, though I question why Scottish Football fans look down their noses at teams from the likes of Norway, Sweden , Denmark or even Belgium.
The average attendance at league matches in Saudi Arabia is very close to the average attendance in the SPFL.
Saudi Arabia eh? A real bastion of international football!
I know the Scottish league struggles.
I know there is little or no money in the media.
But Celtic football club started when there was no media to speak of, no league to play in, and no wages to pay anyone — but the core customer turned up because we ( our grandfathers, great grandfathers and the generation before them ) just believed in the very idea of there being a “Celtic”.
I am told that Nir Bitton was absolutely delighted to be signing a new contract. Genuinely thrilled. He is a Celtic Fan. Young Tierney was brilliant. Scott Brown came a Hibbee – what is he now?
We should be a far better team than just the sum of our parts and right now we are not as good as the sum of our individual parts – and that I have to say is down to management.
Management doesn’t start with Ronny, it starts higher up.
I have no doubt that Peter Lawwell is a Celtic fan through and through, and is a good business man but sometimes you have to run your business by going back to your roots and building from there and with Celtic that means building a football team and adopting some unshakeable values for the supporters of the club to believe in and get behind.
There was a great article in the New York Times recently about Athletic Bilbao and their policy of only playing players who were born in or raised in the Basque region. As a club, they know they could achieve greater success – both footballing and financial – if they chased expensive players from all over like Barca and Madrid. But they don’t.
At the end of the article, there is a great quote from their president – by the way Bilbao is a club which is owned by the fans and where the President is voted in by the fans – where he says the following:
““We think of it like this: Anyone can win or lose. We want to win or lose our way.”
Lat night Celtic lost and we lost in a manner which was far from being “our way”.
We are not always run as a club “our way” and maybe that has to change.
We were not up for it, and our form is a mystery. That can apply to the corporate vision as well as the team.
No football team can continue like that for too long and expect to progress in any direction.
THE GLORIOUS BALANCE SHEET on 6TH NOVEMBER 2015 6:57 PM
Tony Donnelly 67 6.52pm
“But ffs take a day aff wull yi”
You do irony really well
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Probably not, but I stick up for my club, spin away awe you like.
Latchford.
Re your last wee comment.
Answer.
No.
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Now go back to wherever you came from.
TONYDONNELLY67 on 6TH NOVEMBER 2015 6:47 PM
As long as guys from the Celtic Trust are around, you can bet that Celtic will get it in the neck every opportunity they get, and that’s a fact, as I said, not one thing about the Huns cheating us and other supporters, not a thing on that website, don’t know about anyone else, I find that freekie and strange, very strange actually. And the answer from the spokesperson there “it’s called Celtic Trust, why should we talk about other clubs”? Sais it all I suppose. Not fit for purpose, and by that I mean they don’t speak for me.
Each to their own as they say but I would say
the Celtic Trust wanting a representative on the board to try to get a fans perspective voiced is certainly more
“talking for me” than wittering on (or not) about a club that has been a blight on our club, and Scottish football.
HH
Ronny, lovely lad though he is, hasn’t got it. As anyone who’s ever been a manager knows, your authority comes from the respect if those you manage. Without that you’re dead. It’s plain that Ronny doesn’t command the respect of his senior players and he’s incapable of motivating them. I suspect that comes from his muddled tactical thinking, willingness to be bossed around on player recruitment by that legendary football figure Peter Lawwell and a penchant for tinkering that would make Ranieri blush.
His record in Europe is astoundingly bad. Absolute and utter pants. Factor in every possible excuse – bad players, lack of investment, poor domestic opposition – and it doesn’t begin to excuse Ronny’s record. We haven’t played a single top level team in his time as manager. I can only imagine what carnage would ensue had we got into the CL and came up against Barca, Real or worst of all, the merciless Bayern. They would easily be capable of double figures against us. Ronny’s piss poor record has been against the flotsam and jetsam of European mediocrity. Even these teams are horsing us under Ronny.
In short, we are a bad team, with bad players, made even worse by a poor, but nice manager. And I’m now exhausted by listening to Ronny’s “jam tomorrow” promises, taken straight from Peter Lawwell’s “you can fool some of the people all of the time” playbook. Look at his face on his BBC interview from last night. It’s tripping him as he goes through the now tired old mantra of “we’re learning, we’ll get better” shite. He doesn’t even believe himself.
Lovely guy, put him out his misery and line up some other poor sod to take on the role of Lawwell’s scapegoat.
Everyone knows what Paul67 is doing. Good luck to him. I think it is wrong to behave in this manner and tbat we should be setting an example and not behaving like the MSM luckily though I can think for myself. I decide what I say and when I say it and I am allowed too. Thanks Paul67.
I did warn years,ago though about losing our rebel souls and becoming WWF affeciandos. Cap in hand …grateful to be just alive.
I.e to insult and spit on the graves of our descendants. The PLC is doing a fine job there. Is thay what they want ?
Well we are about to find out.
Eyes on the prize bhoys. Remember Dallas and the blood streaming down his face while he gifted Rangers R.I.P ten in a row. We were as crap as I have ever seen us last night.
before,Murray came to town tbe Arabs and the Dobs were more of a force in Europe than we were.
Are they going to go to town on the SFA the media or are they all about Old Firm revival.
Well we are about to find out and I will be on here giving my opinion thanks to Paul67.
No matter what he posts.
HH
Kinglubo,
Like you i have followed Celtic for decades…the early sixties in fact. I agree that opportunities have been thrown away to reap the financial benefits of the CL, but let me ask you this. Do you think Celtic are performing at the appropriate level in Europe, given the quality of players that we currently have on the books? To put it another way, do you think that the present group of players should beat some or all of Legia, Maribor, Malmo, Molde and Ajax? If you answered “yes” to the above, why are we not doing this?
Rebus
Nine in a row.
Sorry. Ten in a row is pointless as Rangers,are dead. Ten in a tow is hun think. It is 16 in a row really but I dont give a fig about the past. Just the future. For our childrens sake
HH