There’s a gentleman that’s going round
Turning the joint upside down
Stool Pigeon – ha-cha-cha-cha
He’s an old ex-con that’s been away
Now he’s back, no one’s safe
It’s quite likely that David Grier and Craig Whyte had many conversations they didn’t want replayed on BBC Reporting Scotland. Their deal to acquire Rangers from Sir David Murray and Lloyds Banking Group would have required many scenarios to be considered, some of which would certainly be unpalatable. So with this in mind, Grier may have been comfortable discussing strategy with Whyte when the latter recorded their conversation in May this year. They had been in the proverbial trenches together before and at one time would have had a bond of trust.
What frankly beggars belief is that either party would consider this bond to be still in place a month after Duff and Phelps sued Craig Whyte’s company for £25m. It’s even more surprising that Mr Grier and Mr Whyte were on such convivial terms – chatting liberally in a restaurant about such a serious matter – while they were supposed to be on opposite sides of a £25m legal action.
We now know that Rangers administration went miles off track soon after it started. Whyte, as we predicted back in October last year, hoped to present creditors and Scottish football with a fait accompli. Duff and Phelps were to complete the task within days for a fixed fee of a fraction of what they eventually raised.
Instead Duff and Phelps fee increased by a factor of six, Whyte lost control of events and inherited a great deal of litigation, not to mention a police inquiry. Duff and Phelps must now prepare to tell the truth to Lord Hodge next week. There are millions of pounds at play here and anything short of the truth could land them in heaps of trouble.
Credit to Mark Daly and Reporting Scotland for landing the recording. The BBC are taking a pounding this month but this was a stunning item for an evening news bulletin to present.
Craig Whyte, you will remember, threatened to sue Daly last year and managed to convince the hard of thinking that Daly, and the BBC, were victimising Rangers by dishing the dirt on Whyte. Some still adhere to this belief, despite now realising their Messiah was just a naughty boy, it’s a cognitive dissonance thing. Another lesson that football fans are fools for bombast.
After all the talk then they wired him
And he took a walk with his crooked friends
And they joked about the good old days
And he recorded it on a reel of tape
He caught the mug who did in the forgery
And the babe in charge of larceny
We have to wonder what liquidators BDO will make of Duff and Phelps actions when they take over next week. Ha-cha-cha-cha.
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Quotes :
“This has to be said about Rangers, as a Scottish Football club they are a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace. This country would be a better place if Rangers did not exist.”
Ian Archer (journalist, 1970s)
“The incessant bigoted chanting by Rangers fans at Hampden was shocking. Unarguably the most socially-backward fans in British football. The really damaging thing for RFC is, it’s not the mythical ‘small minority’. There appear to be 1000s upon 1000s singing these songs.”
Graham Spiers (Journalist) on his Twitter feed commenting on the Huns in their league cup final appearance (March 2011) (match)
COMEDIAN Andy Cameron was barracked by fellow Rangers’ shareholders yesterday when he asked the club’s chairman Mr John Paton to “come out and be honest” about the board’s policy towards Roman Catholics. Mr Cameron, whose earlier remarks about the calibre of the Rangers’ team had drawn laughs and cheers from the floor of the club’s annual meeting, was heckled and told to sit down. Minutes later, a number of shareholders milled round Mr Cameron and exchanged angry remarks with him.
The Herald (Oct 2010); the above happened in 1985
“There’s nothing worse than sitting in the dressing room at Celtic Park after a defeat, not a word being said, listening to them going mental next door.”
Ally McCoist (ex-Rangers striker)
“Rangers like the big strong powerful fellows, with a bit of strength and solidity in the tackle, rather than the frivolous, quick moving stylists like Jimmy Johnstone, small, tiptoe-through-the-tulips type of players who excite people.”
Willie Waddell, Rangers manager 1972
Brian Clough: “What team did you say you support again?”
Man in the studio audience: “RANGERS!”
Brian Clough: “That’s not a football team! That’s a gang of villains.”
The irrepressible Brian Clough on “Sport in Question”
“In every hick town in Caledonia across the pseudo nation, you can see the most ****** up scum who were shat into creation, where a blue McEwans’ lager top equals NO imagination!
“Think you’re a success?
“Your psyche’s a mess!
“Your economy is in distress, you’re HUN-believable!!!”
Irvine Welsh, the irrepressible novelist on his opinion about Rangers fans (1996)
‘It’s not that they weren’t penalties – it’s just that they’re the kind of penalties nobody else gets!’
Not the View fanzine in 2003 after Rangers were awarded three penalties in their 2-2 draw with Dundee in May 2003
“I’d just come from Italy and France which are catholic countries,very warm and friendly,and here I was in Glasgow with some of my team-mates [i.e. fellow Rangers players] hating catholics. I just couldn’t understand it and frankly found it ridiculous.”
Ray Wilkins on an ESPN documentary said about Rangers (June 2007)
Walter Smith, a two-time former manager of the club and now manager of Scotland, once said to me: “There is a Protestant superiority syndrome around this club . . . you can feel it.”
Graham Spiers quoting Walter Smith (taken from his book on Paul Le Guen’s time at Rangers, 2007)
“When I came here in 1964, we had no Catholics,” he said. “Not just the playing staff, anywhere. There was no bit of paper, it was an unwritten rule. David Murray changed that and it moved on significantly in 1989 when Maurice Johnston signed. You cannot clear up 80 years of sectarianism in eight months, but we are a huge way down the road.”
Sandy Jardine
It was not until the 1960’s that the burning issue of sectarianism reared its ugly head at Ibrox. A former player, Ralph Brand, made the sectarian policy at Rangers public knowledge and around this time the behaviour of Rangers fans was a real problem for the club. In 1963, Rangers fans jeered during the minute’s silence for assassinated Catholic U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Then, in 1967, then vice Chairman Matt Taylor was questioned about Rangers no Catholics policy and he stated that he felt that they policy was “part of our tradition….we were formed in 1873 as a Protestant boys club. To change now would lose us considerable support.”
Vice-Chairman Matt Taylor of Rangers from 1960s
To the Rangers fans: “Stay and vomit in your own home, urinate in the corner of your own sitting room, fight with your own neighbours Celtic (who deserve a medal for putting up with you) and foul the streets of Glasgow. Don’t come back to Barcelona, you’re an embarrassment. And while we’re at it, don’t play in the Champions League. You’re not up to scratch, either on a sporting or human level.
There are noisy supports who, even though they drink large quantities of beer, make friends. Not you lot, because you turn everywhere you go into dumps. You are undesirables.”
El Mundo Deportivo Newspaper on Rangers after the Rangers game v Barcelona in the Nou Camp (Nov 07)
Full Article: “Don’t come back to Barcelona” (Nov 07)
‘Terry Butcher had little idea of the sectarian divide he was stepping into when he arrived at Rangers in the summer of 1986 in a £750,000 deal.But he had been given an inkling as a young pro when he blessed himself before a match and fell foul of senior team-mate Allan Hunter, a Northern Ireland international Butcher said: “I recall one incident at Ipswich before a reserve game when I crossed myself, something I’d seen Alan Brazil do. “Big Allan Hunter was sitting in the stand and after the game he grabbed me and asked me if I was a Catholic. I told him I wasn’t. I was an English Protestant. Why, then, he asked, did I cross myself? “I told him it was for luck but he told me to remember I was a Protestant and warned me never to do it again – if I did, he would really sort me out. ‘
Based on Terry Butcher’s book, surprising Ally Hunter would later have Celtic down for his testimonial (in 1981)
“The people in that CCTV footage acted like a pack of wolves. Whatever happened earlier there was no excuse for this level of violence. ”
Assistant Chief Constable Justine Curran, the match commander during Rangers’ shame in the UEFA Cup Final “Battle of Piccadilly” in Manchester (see link)
“Celtc : Bohemian, Underprivileged.
Rangers : Dour, Establishment.”
FourFourTwo magazine describing the two clubs
Lionel Messi, the Barcelona striker, accused the Scottish side of indulging in “anti-football” when the same goalless Ibrox scoreline was achieved against his own team in the Champions League. Now Mutu has expressed his own distaste.
“I’ve never seen a team play like that at home before, but that is their game, their tactic, and what they believe in,” he said. “I thought maybe they would want to make more of a spectacle for the fans. For me, it was an ugly game. They were defending all the time and I just hope we see a bit more attacking, some spectacular”
Mutu (Fiorentina) on Rangers just before 2nd leg game in UEFA cup v Huns (Apr 08)
“The wife of a Rangers Supporters Club secretary from East Kilbride declared that she had been suffering from insomnia as a result of disturbing religious visions involving Johnston: “My blood is boiling. Is Mo Johnston going to run about Ibrox with his crucifix? I’ve though about nothing else all night.” David Miller, General Secretary of the Rangers Supporters Association was peddling an equally hard line: “I never thought in my wildest dreams that they would sign him. Why him above all? It’s a sad day for Rangers. There will be a lot of people handing in their season tickets. I don’t want to see a Roman Catholic at Ibrox. Rangers have always stood for one thing and the biggest majority of the support have been brought up with the idea of a true blue Rangers team. I thought they would sign a Catholic eventually, perhaps in three or four years time, but someone from the continent.”
Quotes from Not The View Fanzine
“Celtic have all the cool people supporting them. Rangers have me and Wet Wet Wet!!!”
Alan McGee’s lament on the great truth (Alan McGee was the founder of Creation Records and the former manager of Oasis (who also happen to be Man City and Celtic fans)
Interviewer: “Is Mo Johnston your most important signing?
David Murray (Rangers Chairman): “We signed him as a football player firstly, and also to break the tradition of this club in not signing a Roman Catholic. That was wrong, ”
Rangers Chairman admits they had a sectarian signing policy in interview (21 Nov 08)
“He said I deserved more than that – I was going off. I’d never been sent off in my career and so I had this conversation with him. Basically I told him that, if he sent me off, he’d be demoted from Grade One refereeing – the lot. That was in the days when Rangers had a good relationship with the Scottish FA.”
Football Bloody Hell by Patrick Barclay when it mentions a tussle between Alex Ferguson and John Greig (Rangers player) that results in Greig getting sent off. Greig who felt he deserved only a booking relates. Plus ca change….
“….yes we’ve had some pretty rank poets over the years. Thomson was probably a Rangers fan in-waiting. Rule Britannia has no modern value and should be dumped in the dustbin of history. It celebrates sentiments and ideologies that have brought great shame on parts of ‘our’ collective British history. Anyone that thinks slavery is smart or justifiable or just a wind up should reconsider why this song still persists in parts of Neanderthal British life. Forget the ‘Hokey Cokey’ guff, Rule Britannia is a song that lords it over other races, celebrates institutionalised racism, and promotes racial supremacy and it should be banned. No correction it should not need to be banned. People should be so ashamed of its vile sentiments they would not knowingly sing it. Its hardly surprising that Rangers fans are the exception. No one else would want to sing this dated piece of imperialist cant. ”
Stuart Cosgrove (Journalist)
Sergio Porrini thinks Rangers could pick up a European trophy within the next three years. He said, “if we can overcome Gothenburg I think we can reach the quarter finals. And I believe that in two or three seasons Rangers could win the European Cup.”
Sergio Perrini, Rangers Player… Daft idiot!
Rangers have been dubbed “the stupidest club in Europe” by France Football magazine. Senior correspondent Christophe Larcher condemned Rangers in a scathing attack on Strasbourg’s opponents in the UEFA Cup first round. He said, “Rangers have spent fortunes on second-rate players and they keep getting knocked out in the first round of European competition. For these reasons they deserve the title of the stupidest club in the continent. As if further proof was needed, they went out against Gothenburg in the European Cup qualifiers after a 3-0 thrashing in Sweden.”
Christophe Larcher (France Football) 3 September 1997
“The famous Rangers Iron Curtain of the 1940s derived from the emphasis on physical strength which Struth had developed in the previous decades. Another potent factor was they were all Protestants, to a man (with suspicions over one or two). And it mattered, deeply. Hardly an eyebrow was raised in Scottish society about this exclusivity during the Struth reign. People largely acquiesced as simply a fact of life. And Struth himself, with a penchant for made-to-measure three-piece suits, a stern countenance and a master of moral rebuke, seemed to be the epitome of the Presbyterian High Tory for whom the tugging of the forelock was expected in an orderly, unchanging society.
“Certainly people from both sides of the divide had a high regard for him as a man of principle, including Paddy Travers of Clyde, a Catholic with whom Struth had holidayed on the Isle of Man. And, ironically, there was a great bond between the man who effectively brought Stein to Parkhead, Jimmy Gribben the Celtic trainer, for whom Struth kept a “wee hauf” at Ibrox any time Celtic played there.
“At that time he was not being forced to engage himself with the highly dubious morality of valuing people of another religion as not fit for purpose. With ample Protestant talent available to him, on the principle of “If it ain’t broke, why fix it?”, life simply rolled on.
“That is why the Struth legacy contains a crucial paradox for the modern Rangers. It can be interpreted in two ways. Without doubt the triumphs, the longevity, the production of great players, all point to a man of distinction and talent. On the other hand, from the baseline of supremacy and triumphalism set, he bequeathed the club a dilemma. The temptation to maintain the tradition was initially overpowering. Waddell and Wallace in the 1970s and 1980s began to see their recruitment options diminishing but were shackled by their own personal inclinations.”
The Herald article on Bill Struth (link)
“On the Rangers terracing on Saturday there was congregated a gang, thousands strong, including the dregs and scourings of filthy slumdom, unwashed yahoos, jailbirds nighthawks, won’t works, burro-barnacles and pavement pirates, all, or nearly all, in the scarecrow stage of verminous trampdom. This ragged army of insanitary pests was lavishly provided with orange and blue remnants…. Practically without cessation, the vagabond scum kept up a strident howl of the “Boyne Water” chorus. Nothing so bestially ignorant has ever been witnessed, even in the wildest exhibitions of Glasgow Orange bigotry……”The reporter went on to describe the assembled throng of Celtic fans.
“These complaints do not apply to the Celtic brake-clubs (supporters’ clubs) whose members, reasonable sentient human beings, are models of decorum and possess official testimonials to their blameless behaviour…..They are fond of singing, and to this no-one can reasonably object. On Saturday, the boys sang to their heart’s content. They gave us so many rousing choruses. “Hail Glorious St. Patrick”, “God Save Ireland”, “Slievenamon” “The Soldier’s Song”…. When Cassidy’s goal made victory sure, it was fine to hear the massed thousands at the western end of the Ibrox oval chanting thunderously “On Erin’s Green Valleys’..”
Man in the Know” from the 1920’s Glasgow Observer in one of his reports relating to an Old Firm game in 1924, (1924)
“Friendly against Rangers , no such thing they’ll be on the rampage they are hooligans!”
“The Likely Lads” (English TV show, 1970s)
“Assault with a deadly weapon, GBH and attempted murder……….what are they? Rangers Fans”.
“The Sweeney” (English TV Show, 1970s)
“This is like a scene now out of Apocalypse Now… We’ve got the equivalent of Passchendaele and that says nothing for Scottish football. At the end of the day, let’s not kid ourselves. These supporters hate each other.”
Archie MacPherson (1980 Scottish Cup final, match commentator)
“There was no problem as far as [the English Players] Ray Wilkins, Chris Woods, Mark Walters, I and some others were concerned. But the Scottish players – Davie Cooper, Ian Ferguson, Ally McCoist, John Brown and the rest – declined because they had received so many calls from friends telling them not to become involved.
“Jimmy Bell didn’t want to become involved at all.
“Mo [Johnstone] roomed with Ally McCoist, as he had done for the national team, and it was Jimmy’s practice to put fresh kit outside everyone’s room for the next day.
“But he refused to do so for Mo, just leaving Ally’s, forcing Mo to go down three flights of stairs to the kit room to fetch his gear.”
Ex-Rangers Captain Terry Butcher’s Biography on the bigotry at Ibrox when ex-Celt & Catholic Mo Johnstone joined them
MO Johnstonturned Scottish football on its head when he sensationally snubbed Celtic to join Rangers in July 1989Gers’ first high-profile Catholic signing in the modern era made nationwide headlines. But Terry Butcherhas revealed how Johnston was initially treated as an outcast by some of his Scottish team-mates at Ibrox.
And Rangers kitman Jimmy Bel, made sure he got the message, refusing to leave Mo’s training kit outside his hotel door at their Italian pre-season base, as he did with other players.
Former club captain Tel explains in his autobiography: “It was, as far as I was concerned, a fabulous signing for the club because Mo was such a good player, while Souness had achieved his ambition of beginning to break down the sectarian barriers at Ibrox.
“Our only doubt was we knew Mo was fiercely proud of being a Celtic fan and we wondered how he would settle. We need not have worried – he was terrific.
“Next day, the club wanted the Scottish and English players to hold a press conference to tell the media what a good signing he was.
“There was no problem as far as Ray Wilkins, Chris Woods, Mark Walters, I and some others were concerned. But the Scottish players – Davie Cooper, Ian Ferguson, Ally McCoist, John Brown and the rest – declined because they had received so many calls from friends telling them not to become involved.
“Jimmy Bell didn’t want to become involved at all.
“Mo roomed with Ally McCoist, as he had done for the national team, and it was Jimmy’s practice to put fresh kit outside everyone’s room for the next day.
“But he refused to do so for Mo, just leaving Ally’s, forcing Mo to go down three flights of stairs to the kit room to fetch his gear.
“Mo did so stoicallyand without complaint. In fact, in the end he made a joke about it.
“But this was a complete upheaval for the club. Even at meal-times there were a number of Scots who would not sit with him.
“What had happened to the moral high ground claimed by Rangers?
“They always used to say it was Celtic who were intolerant and unable to cope with the mixing of religions. Wrong.
“There were no such difficulties for the English players, of course.
“All we knew was that we had signed a good player who was going to help us retain our title
Ex-Rangers Captain Terry Butcher’s Biography on the bigotry at Ibrox when ex-Celt & Catholic Mo Johnstone joined them
“Football has moved on to a different planet and Scottish football has got to go with it.”
Rangers chairman David Murray, (1997)
“[Rangers are] the second most important institution in Scotland after the Church of Scotland.”
David Murray(2010), Hun Delusion and trying to pander to their knuckle-draggers with this kind of statement. Decent members of the CoS keep their distance.
“I feel very sorry for Airdrie and their supporters but we’re running a business. We have given them repeated warnings and felt they were playing on our good nature.”
Hun Chairman David Murray on Airdrie during their liquidation. Interesting in light of Rangers later financial debacles (2002)
“The club simply cannot shake off the stigma of bigotry. It is excruciating.”
Graham Spiers (2011)
“They have a church, too. In their illiterate and incoherent scheme of things, Calvary is probably a collective for horses and maybe Gethsemane is something mysterious that happens in a sperm-bank. No, their real religion is Rangers Football Club.
“Glasgow Rangers is the sporting icon for loyalist bigots. The club’s own words are irreproachably neutral. It is law-abiding. It is patriotically British. Its outward message is of harmony and ecumenism. But to the large thug element amongst the Rangers fans the key to their identity is almost like the Third Secret of Fatima. It is this: NO FENIANS here.
“There is a congenial, indeed government-backed myth, in both Scotland and in Ireland, that “one side is bad as another”: that Sinn Fein-IRA are pretty much the same as the UDA/UVF. This is simply untrue. There is no republican equivalent to the Romper Rooms of the UDA, wherein men were routinely beaten to a pulp by loyalist thugs, and from which both the term and the practice became celebrated. And then there was Lenny Murphy and his merry gang, the Shankill Butchers, who for years in the mid-1970s abducted, tortured and murdered Catholics — usually by cutting their victims’ throats.
“This culture did not emerge simply as a response to IRA violence. It was there already. It was feckless, violent, drunken, lost, lumpen proletarians for whom a perverted tribal identity conjoined with a Godlessly Calvinist sense of superiority, even as they stewed in their ghettoes of suffocating illiteracy and economic failure. But they were nonetheless elevated by the insane delusion that they are the chosen people, who have been deprived of their birthright by some vast conspiracy between the Catholic Church and the British government.”
Kevin Myres (Independent.ie)
“Glasgow Rangers had their fans barred from entry, played pig-ugly football and behaved like swine.
“The Scots realized that they would not be able to eliminate Malmö from the Champions League fairly. Therefore they resorted to intimidating, kicking and fighting them. It was pathetic.
“Edu should have been sent off having been well warned. McCulloch’s yellow card when he kicked Durmaz from behind should have been a red – Durmaz should have been red carded when he retaliated, but wasn’t even warned – and when Majid Bougherra assaulted Dardan Rexhepi leaving him almost unconscious, the sending off was indisputable.
“This was how Rangers acted.
“Their fans were banned from European matches. Their team should also be.”
Mattias Larsson (following Rangers defeat to Malmo in Aug 2011; from http://www.expressen.se, source: http://www.expressen.se/sport/1.2517731/kanslan-efterat-sa.-jakla.-rattvist)
“Rangers are a big club but unfortunately they are behaving like a little one.”
Steve Lomas (St Johnstone Manager, self-admitted Rangers fan as a kid, Jan 2012)
They’re really not very nice, are they?
Mark Daly says more to come on Reporting Scotland tonight? I look forward to seeing it a bit later on
a different drum is playing a different kind of beat !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM3mB6WrhJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BumvR0Q2ToE
“I’m a wonderful thing baby”
What our hero sings in the shower, allegedly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-NGlOB4hJA
Going to have to play the whole back catalogue now
Ha-cha-cha-cha
enjoy!
bob loblaw@13:46.
I’m sure I could help you with that pal. Drop me an email to Owen.hutchison@btinternet.com and I’ll sort it for you HH
What a fright I got when I opened up CQN and noticed the magazine pictures, there’s an awful lot of CQN’ers on it and the pictures don’t do them any favours :-)
Revised weather forecast for the Greater Glasgow and Belfast areas.
The morning will see an Alex Thomson blog on intimidation.
Then it will be followed by a revealing video interview.
As the twitter storm continues, a period of unrest will continue throughout the evening for those turning into Channel 4 News to see a full package on the story
our local is having a game here http://www.slleisureandculture.co.uk/info/163/jock_stein_centre at 1.00 this saturday in memory of a young friend of many in the kirkhill bar who passed away recently.
Should be a laugh as it is our end of the pub against the sevco end of the pub.
look in if you are passing.
A night of fundraising will follow later in the bar for the british heart foundation.
prizes laughs raffles music and a couple of legends from both sides.
And a CQN Legend (me)
Europa league on ITV4 (Sky 120) wonder if the English clubs will pay the league games any respect with decent fielded sides?
prestonpans bhoys
Europa league on ITV4 (Sky 120) wonder if the English clubs will pay the league games any respect with decent fielded sides?
The odious Alan Green on 5Live last night commentating on the ManC game, said that if they didn’t qualify for the latter stages of the CL, they would have to suffer the ‘indignity’ of competing in the EL.
Just about sums up what the English take on the EL is.
SPF
prestonpans bhoys
Thays why ive bet Anzhi to beat Liverpool at 31/10.
!!Bada Bing!!
17:36 on
25 October, 2012
You could be on a nice wee sum there. BTW someone at Ladbrokes must think those annoying adverts are good! – sound off right now!!!!!!!
One of the slowest pages in CQN history?
Wanyama rejects contract offer
Bada Bing @ 16.16
*Agrees with this*
Syncs seemlessly in seconds over iPhone iPad and Mac.
Dropbox although free, is multi million pound software.
BBC claiming Duff and Phelps tried to get Whyte to mislead……..Hmmmm. Just gets better and better.
Doubt there will be anything lft for BDO to pore over.
Shame that Victor’s rejected new deal, heres hoping for an acceptable new offer.
Dundee brought more fans to Tannadice than Sevco in the last five seasons.
Armageddon CSC
STV………………….trolling on Wanyama contract
Ah told You guys..
Oh~ A Month ago..
That Celtic dinnae hae Enuff Money oan the Table .. tae Please …Victor..
And..
Gary ,is Ambitious…
He wants it awe.
And Celtic.. Hivnae goat it.. well.. Awe.
January,is loomin as a Major Tent Pole…in the Lives o’ these Two Celtic Players.
Kojo
How long does Wanyama have left on his contract?
!!Bada Bing!!
i think Anzhi are very good value tonight. I think Rodgers will def be resting some of the “stars” with the trip across Liverpool coming up and the need to move up the table. Anzhi top in Russia with only 1 loss so far. Eto’o running at/past Carragher all night? Liverpool NOT to keep a clean sheet is as close as you could get to printing money surely.
HT
2015
As i thought-as i thought
Sorry….
Hamiltontim
Once a player has made up his mind to leave then it’s most likely that it will happen.
We can’t afford the silly money he’ll have been offered already via his agent and now that there’s a public disagreement over a new contract it doesn’t bode well in my opinion.
Both Wanyama and Hooper want EPL wages.
Even just as importantly ,their respective agents want EPL terms.
The Celts should cash in .
They will create disharmony in the dressing room if they feel frustrated at Celtic.
Get JP to work on there replacements ,and sell them on.
Ambrose can replace Vic, and Watt ,Hooper.
Nobody bigger than the club.
A67
!!bada bing!!
17:36 on
25 October, 2012
prestonpans bhoys
Thays why ive bet Anzhi to beat Liverpool at 31/10.
Having a bit of that.
Negative Celtic story on stv – shockaroonie
bournesouprecipe
18:07 on
25 October, 2012
STV………………….trolling on Wanyama contract
==============
Nothing to do with the 2nd “scoop” in a row for BBC Scotland !
Kojo
That is, I’m afraid, the flip side of the coin our Neil must constantly toss in his pursuit of good players – the bigger buyers market.
The fruit ain’t always necessarily sweeter the higher you go up the tree…
But…
Let ’em come anyway and hear a real support…
And let ’em go in peace…
U McGhee Esq
HT-2015, to be honest I think he will go in the summer ,new contract or not.Maybe not much point in increasing his salary?
Googybhoy-31/10 betvictor best price earlier
wanyama reading his own press and turns down contract offer……he can follow ki out the door for anything over 6m as far im concerned.
Had a heated debate with two mates this morning regarding victor, who in my opinion, plays for himself before the team.
Ducking for cover…..
7/2 Stan James
If its true then I am sorry to hear that Victor is not happy and is willing to go public to raise his profile, badly advised by his agent.
IMO
HH