After Tuesday night, you might feel a slight sting. That’s pride. Pride only hurts, it never helps. Continue to bank Premiership points, mature as a squad and grow the club, because a year from now when we’re kicking it in the Champions League, you’re gonna’ say ‘We’re progressing’.
A week ago I suggested a case could be made that the game at Ross County was our most important before the international break. I know that game has already faded into memory, but argument stands. Champions League football is everything to Celtic – our biggest earner, best way to attract players, the sugar in fans’ tea, we need to be there and we need to improve results when we get there.
We are a significant way off the highs of Gordon Strachan’s Champions League campaigns (yes, some people were always unhappy), and we need to redouble efforts to return to that level, but until then, the importance of winning at the weekend can never be overstated.
Our coefficient monkeys did their best last night to make sure Celtic continue to reach the Champions League in future seasons. Still a lot of work to do before we can assume anything, but fair play to them – every club in the league must do their best for Scotland’s perennial champions.
While Celtic legs and minds will be weary after our humbling in Madrid, Aberdeen flew back from Greece overnight after a respectable draw with POAK, and will travel south tomorrow ahead of their game at Celtic Park on Sunday. Barry Robson is making progress but the international break surely cannot come soon enough for a squad which is far lighter than Celtic’s.
I expect a backlash from Celtic.
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Hearing Maeda out for 6 weeks
First off – respect to Aberdeen for last night’s performance and result.
Similar to Union Berlin the previous night, they went up against a team with a better pedigree on their own patch, ran themselves into the ground … and got a point and some welcome cash.
Recalling how flat we were at Easter Road after an incredible effort against Atletico … I can’t help feel Aberdeen will feel the same turning round in 66 hours.
Plus a longish flight home reducing genuine recovery time further.
The key is to go after them early.
Fatigued players don’t automatically tire at the end of a game.
Rather, they subconsciously tell themselves they’ll be tired later … and drop the tempo early on.
Respect to Aberdeen for Thursday.
Get intae them Celtic.
CHAIRBHOY on 10TH NOVEMBER 2023 1:51 PM
SAINT STIVS @ 1:25 PM,
May 2022…
Three transfer windows
Or does a head of recruitment need time to bed in, two or three seasons maybe!?
Hail Hail
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Without knowing the actual kpis for a chief of first team scouting, I have to think that anyone coming in already has extensive knowledge via analytics software and databases that most likely are the same for thew top clubs, ie they dont build thier own systems they buy something off the shelf.
so with this in mind, and coming from the city group, ML must have tranferabble (sic) knowledge to hit the ground running.
now when the manager says i need x.
MLs department must be able to say here are 20 options, lets do the analyitcs, see who is availble, see what the price is, and so on and so on.
first team readiness did not seem to me anyways to be the criteria for those 3 windows with the exception of two or three.
Ange told us, get used to more and more turnover of staff, try them, buy them, move them on when interest comes, the only recent known exception has been matt o’riley.
we are miles away from building teams for long term stability.
i had a wee head scratching moment at the weekend as we searched out long term players from history.
james, callum and broonie , with lustig and biton are our modern day long serving players.
but what struck me, i bet more players played for celtic in the last 23 years, than did in the previous 60.
i never got round to it, but i wonder what the average lenght of stay at our club is now ? 3 seasons maybe ?
my least favourite saying in business we are “in the war for talent”, utter tosh offcourse, but it is relevant in football more than anywhere else.
that was a wee meander,
https://celtsarehere.com/new-eighth-largest-celtic-shareholder/
This is welcome but the article does not mention what percentage of shares the Trust now owns as the “eighth largest shareholder”.
A fraction of 1%.
From previous discussions on the topic, and with no disrespect intended to the Trust ….
… progress is too slow.
With absolutely no data to support my premise … there has to be at least a 10% bloc out there (consolidated voting rights if not purchased shares) to go after ?
Catching up after a busy night/morning and I notice a few Celts annoyed at Sevco getting a home win.
For me, as long as they don’t win a euro trophy I am good with them picking up points / having to play more games and chipping into the co-efficient as long as its not taking food off our table as it were.
That didn’t register on the bad news radar this morning – though the rumoured injury to Maeda concerns me (I posted on here that it looked like he hurt himself trying to not injure the player during his “red card challenge”). Also a little concerned by news Maddison is out into next year with a bad one. Here’s hoping Ange doesn’t view MOR as a cheap gap filler until he returns.
Looking forward to the Dons at the weekend, got seats on the supporters bus again so might even get a cheeky wee drink!
QB
Bada
Seemed ok walking off , mystery indeed.
We shall thrash Aberdeen on Sunday. Kyogo and Oh for hattricks. Eazypeazy.
And that’s before half time.
SAINT STIVS @ 2:10 PM,
Yes, you’d expect the recruitment tools to be in place or at least up and running in jig time…
Read somewhere we haven’t signed a player that’s had an impact on the first team since January 2022.
That sounds about right for me.
Of course development players are necessary and in our situation completely key to our success.
Yet they need time to “develop”, so the squad mix is hugely important.
Abada and O’Riley were two good development players we signed and their progress has been managed very well; form, injuries, etc are always going to come into it but not selling Matt was one of the highlights of the summer window.
It appears things did change towards the end of Ange’s tenure but until that time he was doing very well.
BR having to run a UCL campaign by being given players to develop was as blinkered as it was disrespectful.
We must hope changes are afoot.
Hail Hail
Dessy- seems got injured in challenge where he got a red card……..
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 10TH NOVEMBER 2023 2:17 PM
https://celtsarehere.com/new-eighth-largest-celtic-shareholder/
This is welcome but the article does not mention what percentage of shares the Trust now owns as the “eighth largest shareholder”.
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that article is utter guff.
the trust has no influence at all on the owners of the club, a mere irritant at the agm’s.
allthough being in rude financial health, we are effectively back to the days of dynastic families owning celtic.
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Dermot Desmond 32,772,073 34.65 %
Christopher David Trainer 10,336,694 10.93 %
James Mark Keane 5,909,847 6.249 %
Thomas Eardley Allison 3,357,505 3.550 %
Industry investors own another 4%
collectively they have never voted against a board resolution ever.
no one ever goes against what DD wants, even though he is not a majority share holder.
SS
Desmond was allowed to increase his shareholding to what it is by asking other shareholders, otherwise he would have had to buy the whole shareholding, we are no better off now in terms of fans having a greater say in club affairs than when the Kelly’s etc owned the club, this aspect of McCann’s legacy has been a failure in that respect.
Bada
Thanks nothing sinister then.
i agree.
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and not forgetting lindsell train – 12% owners. the quote is from an interview in 2019
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The other football stock in the global portfolio is Celtic, which despite being a much smaller club commands a huge amount of its domestic market.
“Celtic has that same position in Scotland – a very narrow, niche market where the media revenues are tiny,” Lindsell said.
“But there is a diaspora of potential Celtic supporters from Scottish catholics around the world that follow the club vicariously,” he said. “If ever Celtic were to tap into that supporter base more, or could morph their media rights from just the Scottish Premiership into something bigger, then the revenues of the company could double or triple very quickly.”
While there is nothing to suggest that the club will materially change in the short term, it is now run by businessmen who will likely monetise the club more successfully moving forward, he added.
“So nothing much is going to change with Celtic in terms of the revenues it earns today if it doesn’t change its league structure – and there are no prospects of it doing so as far as I can see,” he said.
“But I wouldn’t be surprised if the agenda from the owners over the very long term is to get things changed. If that was ever a likely event the value of the franchise would be enormous.”
Superbru Round 12 update
With only 5 matches featuring, instead of the usual 6, one poster almost broke the Weekly points total figure set by Big Jimmy in Week2 ( with 14.5pts). In doing so, he has shot up 21 places to the mid-table obscurity of 35th position.
Our Top 3 this week were :-
1. McCaff – 14 points (hope you had some bets on)
2. Melvin Udall- 11.5 pts
3. Celticrollercoaster- 10.5 pts
At the bottom we had 7 posters tied on 1.5 points and in danger of heading for the glue factory after this race:-
sammybhoy67, Cosy Corner Bhoy & BMCUWP (were youse two copying?), Greenpinata, Pro Cierto, wee BGFC and this week’s wooden spoon holder- Jonny the Tim
In the overall race, we now have:-
1. Leggy- 71.5 pts
2. BC Milan- 69 pts
3. Billy Bhoy- 64.5 pts
At the bottom, we have:-
1. Chief Village Idiot- wee BGFC- 29 pts ( to be fair- he’s missed a few predictions)
2. Deputy Village Idiot- TheLurkinTim- 33.5 pts
3= Bronzed Village Idiots- Friesdorfer & wee McCaff- 34.5 pts
Next predictions are due in by Saturday 3pm with 4 matches taking place as we await a Celtic backlash on Sunday
Good Luck everybody!
SAINT STIVS @ 2:44 PM,
Out of curiosity, who bought Lindsell Train’s shareholding?
Hail Hail
SFTB
Many thanks to you for running the competition. Leggy must be more pished than me to win last year and be second this year. Penalty sevco!!!!
Ffs he’s first!
Nurse!!!!
Maybe Tillio can come in for Maeda.
Oh wait a minute , he can’t even handle the training.
Another waste of money.
BRRB- we used to test for witchcraft using a ducking stool.
Leggy failed a similar bar stool test
Just sayin’
my favourite Murdoch Mystery is on tv now.
Murdoch is a catholic detective in the Toronto polis.
there is a murder in the lodge, as each of the hooded individuals revela themmselves they are all in the police.
they call on murdoch to investigate,
his face as the masons talk all their guff is hilarious,
are you an athiest, we cannot allow an unbeliever in solomons temple ……..
no sir i am a catholic,
a papist that is worse. says the rwm (i am in the know, wink wink)
AGM 2023
The following documents ahead of the 2023 Annual General Meeting of Celtic plc are available to download and review:
> NOTICE OF MEETING
> FORM OF PROXY
> ANNUAL REPORT 2023
https://www.celticfc.com/club/celtic-plc-investor-relations/celtic-plc-annual-general-meetings/
RESOLUTION 2: Reappointment of Peter Lawwell
Peter Lawwell was appointed to the Board as a non-executive director and Chairman with effect from 1
January 2023 and is required to retire and stand for reappointment at the first AGM following his
appointment.
Mr Lawwell was Chief Executive of Celtic plc from October 2003 until June 2021 and also served as a
Trustee of Celtic FC Foundation for much of that time. Mr Lawwell previously held senior positions at
Clydeport plc, ICI, Hoffman-La-Roche and Mining Scotland. During Mr Lawwell’s tenure as CEO and now
Chairman, Celtic have won 34 major trophies (15 League Championships, 10 Scottish Cups, 9 League Cups)
and qualified for the group stage of the UEFA Champions League on all but 2 occasions. In addition to
having served on the Board of Directors of the SPFL and the Scottish FA and various other domestic subcommittees, panels and working groups, Mr Lawwell has also represented Celtic FC on various UEFA
committees and is now Vice-Chairman of the European Club Association (“ECA”) and a Board member of
the UEFA/ECA joint venture (UCC SA) and member of the ECA Executive Committee.
Total season ticket sales (no.)
2023 – 53,080
2022 – 52,562
2021 – 55,320
2020 – 52,457
2019 – 52,520
During Mr Lawwell’s tenure as CEO and now
Chairman, Celtic have won 34 major trophies (15 League Championships, 10 Scottish Cups, 9 League Cups)
and qualified for the group stage of the UEFA Champions League on all but 2 occasions
Am I missing something “qualified for the group stage of the UEFA Champions League on all but 2 occasions. ” ??????
SS
Why don’t you nominate him for a knighthood
Team sheet latest………………. James Forrest
Celtic Park investment per annual year
£1.8m
£0.7m
£1.2m
£0.9m
ST TAMS on 10TH NOVEMBER 2023 3:30 PM
SS
Why don’t you nominate him for a knighthood
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why would i do that ?
i am merely highlighting the absurdidty of the resolutions,
the sitting board and non execs are due for retirement because of serving over 9 years but are allowed to stand again and they vote themseleves in.
the over egging of PL “acheivements” i find quite funny.
An annual year no less?
Imagine getting paid to go follow celtic all over the world. with the best seats in the house and all the hospitality you can consume, its some gig isnt it
T Allison 40,000
I Bankier 40,000
D Desmond 40,000
C McKay 565,324
B Wilson 40,000
S Brown 46,350
M Nicholson 711,937
P Lawwell 40,00
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 10TH NOVEMBER 2023 3:39 PM
An annual year no less?
Yes, in financial report speak no less that is correct, less might be a half year, or a quarter.
but you know that anyways.
or the calendar year.
so we dont get confused, the Rangers financial existence is 11 years but that also gets them 151 years of “history”. without the liabilities
Bernabei for me wide left he can beat a man and has a good shot on him
If the tacticians ever reached perfection, the result would be a 0-0 draw, and there would be no one there to see it.
Pat Crerand
Tom McLaughlin
“An annual year no less?”
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If they held their AGMs on Jupiter he could wait out 12 years before a re-election vote was held.
PRESTONPANS BHOYS @ 3:30 PM,
What am embarrassing self publicised that man is.
That list of trophies includes every trophy we’ve won since Seville has been down to big Pedro.
He isn’t responsible for a single on but how they can include, the double we won in 2003/04 when he arrived as COO in November 2003.
Ange’s double 2021/22, when he had left and Ange’s treble 2022/23 when he came in as Chairman in the January.
The only influence he’s had on UCL qualification was in 2018/19 when as a Pot 3 side who had qualified two seasons previous we failed as he pulled the rug from under the manager in the 2018 transfer window.
BrassNecksCSC
Hail Hail