It wasn’t just the result, which was enormously satisfying, but the manner of Celtic’s performance yesterday was equally gratifying. We passed with speed and precision, creating space between what was often two blocks of five defenders. Hearts were in a sorry state but despite enduring the consequences of being unable to pay their dues, they remain considerably more resourceful than many of the lower league teams which have caused Celtic problems in cup competitions in recent seasons.
We finally got to see what the fuss over Nir Biton was all about. He brought control, time and space to the play. In particular I liked the way he tried to retain possession. Hope we see more of him in the weeks to come.
While most attention was drawn to the striker position following defeat to Milan last week, central midfield, bereft of recent departures, the injured and suspended, was just as under-resourced. The opportunity is there for Biton to grab a place for himself, just as Victor did a couple of years ago.
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cadizzy .
Honest Jon’s being online is a real indication of how much the world has changed . Their first shop had previously been a Butchers . They couldn’t afford racks etc , so they used old wooden boxes sitting on top of butcher’s blocks . There was blood on the floor for months [ before somebody finally got it together enough to remove it ].I have a Hank Mobley Lp , bought in the very early days of Honest Jon’s,which has dried blood on the sleeve.
antipodean red
10:33 on 3 December, 2013,
I enjoyed reading your post, it brought good memories flooding back to me.Hail Hail
I will watch with interest if and when we get our money from the cup tie at Swinecastle.
The wheels are about to come of down Gorgie way. If the weather turns nasty and they have a few games called off I reckon it could be curtains for them. I believe the margins are that tight.
LB
livibhoy – god bless wee oscar
11:28 on 3 December, 2013
I can see Sevco getting a direct route to the final, our route wont be so easy, or as easily accommodated…!
The SFA imo will be content with Sevco winning it and thay means not meeting us..!
HH
The situation at Ibrokes will continue to roll on they have manipulated in my opinion every rule in the book and have gotten away with it and in my opinion nothing is likely to change.The biggest problem for me with that is am I prepared to pay to watch my team in a rigged game ? and the same answer keeps coming into my mind that I would be stupid to do so.When the old mob had all that debt I could see no way out for them but I hadnt taken into account all the help they would receive to get rid of the debt and there is no doubt when they reach the SPL they will be lauded as heros and helped in every way possible to win it.It sticks in my craw but other than quitting Scottish football I dont see that I can do anything about it.H.H.
MickTT
Who is going to beat Celtic???
LB
Dontbrattbakkinanger
11:27 on 3 December, 2013
“The Ottoman Empire has broken up?!
Jings, they kept that quiet.”
ottoman…. oooooohhh!!
Chewin’thefatCSC
antipodean red
10:33 on 3 December, 2013
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Brillant
Where in oz are you ?
Hope the celts get a famous win in barca
DBBIA
The Ottoman Empire has broken up?!
Jings, they kept that quiet.
Musical differences apparently…
Fur Fox Ache still Sevco quick News.
That mob negotiate a couple of cup games and it’s tweaky bum time on here.
Just what are you fearties feart of?
One minute the SFA are going to fix the draw so we have Celtic v Sevco, now it’s the SFA keeping us apart till the final. Make up your minds.
Livibhoy –
Sorry but that post is hilarious. It must go down in history as having the most ifs, buts and maybes to back up a conspiracy. Pure comedy gold.
The stench of fear on here is nauseating.
I want no part of it.
Joe Filippis Haircut 11:39 on 3 December, 2013
“When the old mob had all that debt I could see no way out for them but I hadnt taken into account all the help they would receive to get rid of the debt.”
They were liquidated. They did not get any help. You appear to be buying into the myth that Sevco and Rangers are the same club.
Re January Transfer Window
I think that given our biggest games are now the CL qualifiers from July (ish) this is our big window to get players in and bedded in. We are unlikely to experience teams with a much greater budget than us in the CL qualifiers, so as long as we are prepared we should be able to qualify.
I agree with NFL’s comments that we need a No.9 (i.e. Hooper replacement) and a No. 10 (i.e. a younger Kris Commons/Nakamura type). I also think we need to keep a British core to the side – but I am not sure where we can find these players in the UK Market (which I take to mean primarily the SFPL and the English Championship).
I would love to see the youngster from Dundee Utd join us, but (1) that may be expensive; and (2) we would need to ensure he had a solid path to the first team if he was not in the side from the start.
DBBIA
The Ottoman – my wee Mammy (God rest her) used to have one at the foot of the double bed (stored her winter blankets in it).
:-)
joe filippis haircut
11:39 on 3 December, 2013,
I know how you feel, they even boast they are the only club debt free in Scottish football.
It makes me sick the constant rule bending but alas…no hun will stop me watching Celtic, other than when we have to play them…that would be too much for my stomach to take.
Not my thing ,but it might be yours ———
Smithsonian Folkways { a company specializing in ” Peoples Music ” } is celebrating 25 years of existence .
Their website is currently carrying a playlist of 25 choons [ 1 from each year of the company’s life .] Might be to your liking if you like ” folk music” or ” World music [ an awful term ! }
Off oot ———the bright lights of Siracusa are beckoning
Enjoy !
Tom
It’s a wee post to cheer you up for the day.
I’m just highlighting the almost desperation of the SFA and the MSM for a Glasgow derby in the final.
Loads of if buts and maybe’s in life. If you don’t talk about them once in a while it can be helluva boring!
LB
SOUTH OF TUNIS
I think there may be some blood on the sleeve of DBBIA’s ALLMAN BROS compilation too.
His!
Tom
What it you reckon we are feart from ?
HH
is
A CEILER GONOF RUST
Wee suggestion for that grub-hoovering lad of yours next time yer in Coia’s.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517333/Man-Vs-Sandwich-Slim-diner-consumes-8-000-calorie-challenge-just-36-minutes-manages-chips-side.html
sipsini 12:00 on 3 December, 2013
“I know how you feel, they even boast they are the only club debt free in Scottish football.”
Have you ever met a Zombie who witnessed any trouble at their UEFA Cup final?
I haven’t. Does that mean there was no bother in Manchester?
What they argue does not alter facts. I can’t understand why people allow the claims of deluded individuals to annoy them.
steinreignedsupreme
11:53 on 3 December, 2013,
I reckon, we all know they died. Sadly, their new fans seem to think they didn’t and that ideology is vigorously persuade by the press.
The problem we have is not playing the reincarnation but the horde that think they are the same. Hail Hail
livibhoy – god bless wee oscar
11:40 on 3 December, 2013
MickTT
Who is going to beat Celtic???
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On a level playing field, no one.
HH
STEINREIGNEDSUPREME
Two of my mates who were at the game proudly boast about their own behaviour that night when they get together,yet deny any wrongdoing when not in tandem.
It should be funny,but separately they are great guys,together a menace.
Auldheid,
Why the end of the season ? You dont have to be definitive. If it is just you personally I think you should say so. I only point this out as ST renewal time is long before the season starts and THEIR is definitely a pattern here.
HH
There even. I hate phones ;-)
HH
A Celtic v Rangers Mk II final would be great for the City………………….with us winning the League and Rangers finishing runner up in the Cup, UEFA would put an end to the Oldco/Newco argument!
Given that there are no rules (no, not even bent, mishappen, even made up rules, designed to accommodate Sevco) which allow for any club (not holding company) to be demoted from the SPL to Division 3, and also there are no official statements made by the SFA or SPL or SFL that RFC were demoted from the SPL to division 3, clearly that didn’t happen.
So, given this small but critical point, what can possibly account for Sevco FC being in the 3rd tier of Scottish football?
There is in fact, only one explanation:
Rangers Football Club (the club, not the holding company) are currently still in the throes of Liquidation. They still exist but have no licence to play anywhere in Scotland.
Meanwhile, the brand new club, Sevco FC were given immediate entry into Division 3 from nowhere, in complete breach of every rule in the book and with the assistance of many an ‘honest mistake’ (which of course gave them no sporting advantage whatsoever) and have now climbed to the lofty peak of the 3rd tier of Scottish football.
So, Mr Ogilvie and every other Sevco sympathiser, can you please explain how come, if indeed Sevco are still the same club known as Rangers FC, how come they are down in the 3rd tier of Scottish football.
They (RFC) were not relegated.
They were not demoted.
They were not punished by casting them down 3 divisions.
If I am wrong here, please show me the official statement by the SFA or any other governing body which explicitly states the charges against RFC, the verdict of the trial and of course, the official punishment given to RFC?
No?
Of course not. Because it didn’t happen.
RFC lost their licence. They have no licence. They are undergoing liquidation.
Sevco FC are a brand new club (not holding company) with only 1 year of inglorious history.
ban the pensioners,
thats all am sayin
AWE NAW
I have pleasantly fond memories of pedantic to and fro between ourselves on the vexed question of spelling mistakes.
Technology has ruined that. Bring back the “Golfball”
new article posted.
Proudbhoy,
I’m down in Halls Head, Mandurah plenty of Tim’s down here as well, we just got a wee club set up this year, meet at Friar Tucks for any reasonably timed games, it’s Celtic TV for everything else.
BBB,
I can just about remember the Institute, it was in a state of disrepair when I was inside. Joe Cairns used to ask us questions about the previous days games either before or after his sermon at Sunday mass, probably the most enjoyable masses that I ever attended, don’t know if you remember Tim McGlynn up at St Margaret’s, he used to call folks “pie face” and other one liners from the pulpit, quite a character, now sadly gone, took half of Whitecrook, on a double decker, to Stirling one day for a “shot” on his mates helicopter and a few shots at the clay pigeon range.
A wee funny from a guy I worked with a few years ago, he was about 14 and going to the Institute on a Friday night. He see’s this Hun and asks him what the feck he’s doing in the Institute, a fight breaks out and our man throws the Hun down that long steep flight of stairs. The polis are called and our man is taken to Hall Street for questioning. His Da is called for and arrives extremely angry that plod has his bhoy in for fighting. At this, senior plod walks in with a sword, “does this weapon belong to you young man”‘ our man replies, naw, no mine, never seen it before. Senior plod says, “ok, it’s just that your name’s inscribed on it and we found it under the seat in the van that brought you here”. Cue a few severe slaps about the head for our man from his auld man………..for getting caught!
No charges laid, all settled domestically.
AR
garngad to croy
I asked this question yesterday. If Celtic win the double does the UEFA place not go to a league place ?
If not is this why the resolution has been adjourned ?
If it is …what happens if sevco dont make the final ?
HH
Oglach from this morning
I may be wrong but In my relatively short time posting on CQN, 2-3 years, I have noted an ever increasing bias against those who chose to question the board, or indeed any group that is anything other than politically centre right.
First of all, get yourself back on here as soon as you feel fit for it.
Secondly, “bias” is the wrong word, as it suggests a prejudice. This is a platform and it is fairly neutral, with the main rules being “biased” against swearing and defamation. Sure, there is an editorial occasionally from Paul67 in some articles but me and you and many others are free to disagree and exercise that option frequently. There is no curtailment of opposing views. However, if you afford yourself the liberty of making a criticism, then you have to expect that others will argue back if they feel differently. As Tom McGlaughlin says, we all tend to notice the criticism/abuse directed at positions and arguments close to our own while dismissing criticism/abuse against the opposing view as banter or a legitimate point. I would be very surprised to see that defense of the board was a majority opinion on here but my position on this is open to being tested.
When you return, why do you not propose a wee vote on who here is broadly in favour of the Board’s strategy and who is against. I would predict that the against votes would win, contrary to your assertion.
Finally, I see no crossover or conflation in being left wing, socialist or centre-left and being a supporter of the Board strategy. There is nothing in my socialist or republican outlook which tells me that there is a natural opposition to the football and finance strategy of the Celtic club or plc. Of course, the lot of them are overpaid, as are directors the world over, but I am very comfortable in considering myself a socialist and defending a “pay your own way and do not spend the children’s cash” football finance strategy.
Haste ye back!
Steinreignedsupreme @ 12:12,
When those deluded individuals hqppen to be in charge of the SFA we have an issue.
Convincing well briefed Tims that they are not the same Club is one thing, convincing the 90% + is another.
Only my opinion but if we don’t nail this lie in most folks mind Sevco Will become Rangers by default.
Hail Hail
oldtim67
08:49 on
3 December, 2013
I shall not,nae never, watch Celtic play against a team that doesn’t exist in my eyes. I’ll never get into Bed with them.There are so many people that have come on here and vilified them, but the same people will be the first too break rank and put mega money into their coffers by attending one of those hate games, why, if your hate them so much would you attempt to keep the vermin alive, by paying money to watch them. Nae never again.
True.So true
07.22 Oglach
I am disappointed you are taking a rest my friend.Our very strength is in the fact that we can disagree.We are a dynamic and all encompassing diaspora and we have in Celtic a beacon of how successful an immigrant population can be in their business when heads are put together.The GB are a part of Celtic not the other way around.They add verve to the matchday experience and along with other supporters have a political veiwpoint,nowt wrong with that. like other posters say that lurkin lark aint all its cracked up to be.hope to see you on soon.
steinreignedsupreme
12:12 on 3 December, 2013
sipsini 12:00 on 3 December, 2013
“I know how you feel, they even boast they are the only club debt free in Scottish football.”
Have you ever met a Zombie who witnessed any trouble at their UEFA Cup final?
I haven’t. Does that mean there was no bother in Manchester?
What they argue does not alter facts. I can’t understand why people allow the claims of deluded individuals to annoy them.
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Maybe it depends on the environment you work within.
I’ve fought my corner continuously since I started working, as I think a lot of posters on here do on a daily basis.
Yes, they’ve became hunchbacks of late, without an eye to look at me or even talk about football.
As I stated earlier, there will be a team from ipox and our stadium will be desecrated by thems.
That’s why I’ll give no credence to the novelty act they follow now. I won’t attend a game we have to play them.
Each to their own though and I have no problem with anyone that attends.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
12:23 on
3 December, 2013
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Because if Ogilvie is still in post by then, then for me the game is corrupt beyond repair.
I will still watch games on TV etc, but I’ll not give it any of my emotional energy. I will still want Celtic to win of course but no point taking part in getting involved in what happens outside the 90 minutes if the outcome is predetermined no matter what..
One of the benefits of being away is that you do not get the papers or hear phone ins and can choose whether or not to get involved via blogs. It is quite peaceful actually.