The Gang of 10 SPL club who will meet next week will decide whether or not we have a morally sound and ethically administered league. The meeting wasn’t announced three hours before overtures were being made on terms a Rangers Newco would be prepared to agree to in order to win their backing.
Effectively, the other 10 will asked to hold their noses, put all moral judgement aside and tell Rangers Newco the terms they need to agree to in order to get back into the SPL, retain their history and limit consequences of the alleged improper registration of players. Some of those hoping to front a Rangers Newco are prepared to do whatever is necessary to get back on a level playing field with those who have spent the last 20 years playing honest football and paying their taxes.
The question to be considered is not just what is ethically right in sport; it’s more personal than that. This is about what is going to happen to your money, the football club that defines who you are, and your relationship with the game for the rest of your life.
The schemers and cheats are not beaten and they are not going to give up. There is no honour, no ‘dignity’, no moral compass that understands there are consequences for decades of rampant abuse. All there is, is a sense of entitlement that I struggle to comprehend.
That sense of entitlement is about to promise bucket loads of your cash to someone else in order to restore the old certainties. This time, they are not even going to use the tax man’s money, they are going to use YOUR money. The money you put into the game will be distributed and used to flush the smaller clubs, who will in turn restore Rangers to their position of ascendency.
This is not sport, it’s a disgusting abuse of Celtic fans. You are not even being asked, you are being expected to open your wallets and pay whatever price it takes to put Rangers back on top.
I have never called for a boycott of a newspaper, never mind a football game, but this is not football anymore. We cannot be party to this. It is not a passing-issue either. Rules are being made with consequences that could last 100 years.
You have suffered from decades of malpractice and have earned the right to go to Ibrox in two weeks to enjoy the reflection of honest endeavour. After this, our next away game will be at Kilmarnock. If the Gang of 10 attempt an insurrection using your money, join me in a picket outside Celtic Park when these tickets are available for sale, and outside the away gates at Rugby Park on game day, to explain to Celtic fans the consequences of supporting the clubs who would use your money to establish a new Rangers.
Unite and bring the full power of Celtic against those who would rather do a deal with the devil than establish an honest, even, playing field.
If the Gang of 10 give Rangers Newco their way, using your money, we cannot go back to an away game, not this season, not ever. We must demand this discipline from each other and insist the club refuse all away tickets.
Having paid our taxes, registered footballers in an honest manner and brought international acclaim to Scottish football, the Celtic Movement is being corrupted by the lowest common denominator.
Our magnificent sporting institution is being destroyed. For the love of all that is decent and meritocratic in the game, we need help from England, Europe or wherever to move out of Scottish football.
I am just about finished with the entire, corrupt, shambles that masquerades as a sport.
Issue six of CQN Magazine….. has sold out! None left, sorry.
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Looks like everyone has retired,
so its onwards and upwards,
goodnight all.
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zimmerman on 10 March, 2012 at 02:57
Superb.
It won’t be long before roberttressel and philvisreturns are manning the same lines together.
Communism is a favourite of the controllers.
The war can be fought online and won online or more likely lost online when the controllers are pumping BILLIONS into killing all Big angles.
What is the point being fed 90% truth for years but when it comes to the most important thing EVER being fed the poison?
Tiocfaidh ar la all right but there is no-one you can trust IMO other than Yeshuah The Lord.
Freedom is a concept created by locksmiths.
Last!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3XdXEJEI4E
My Mum loves this dude and all his music. Pablophanque really did have quality, eclectic tastes.
A Christianity link….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhhmcrPVRfo
a petec link…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF81u9e08zU&list=UUopuSqrmNw4pYc8DGlRjApw&index=3&feature=plcp
Seems safe to say
Today…
Celtic Quick News & Lazy Journalism both set new personal records.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gxMvb9VrzY"<Roll on the Hue & Cry amid the Bedlam
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gxMvb9VrzY"<Roll on the Hue & Cry
Take 2…
Ach….
Feck it
PJBhoynyc, I hope you and your family are keeping well.
Paul Murray David – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft9O0wJ5MUo
PJBhoynyc on 10 March, 2012 at 04:06
The Boss done a pre-emptive strike, perhaps just a bit too early but I don’t know the details so perhaps it was at precisely the right time.
Bedtime. nn
petec
Family healthy and well thankyou sir.
Thanks for that link, been a while since I heard that.
Hope all is well with you and yours.
Historic Times.
G’Night
PJB have you read any Peter Quinn books?
RalphWaldoEllison
I have not. Although having a quick search his work looks interesting. You suggest any particular book?
I’ve read Looking for Jimmy, and would recommend it. It’s well written and very readable. All about the Irish in America, particularly NY.
Banished Children of Eve is a historical novel set in NY with a lot of known NY notables from the period.
All his work is of a good quality IMO and the author himself is still active in NY and the state. Lives in Hastings on the Hudson.
Off to zzzland now.
HH
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Courtesy The Independant..
Dark times at Rangers
After a week of drama, the fate of the Glasgow giants is still in the balance. Richard Wilson explains how the club fell and what the future might hold
RICHARD WILSON SATURDAY 10
How did Rangers end up in this situation?
From 1999 to 2010, Sir David Murray embarked on periodic bouts of extravagant spending. At one stage, the club was more than £80m in debt and Murray had to launch a share issue that he ended up underwriting for £50m. Lloyds TSB effectively took control of the club when Murray’s company, MIH, put turnaround specialist Donald Muir on the board in 2009, and the debt was reduced to £18m by May 2011. The club was up for sale for several years but even with the smaller debt, nobody made an offer. Murray had also been using Employee Benefit Trusts to make discretionary payments to players that were tax-free. The EBTs were legal but in 2010 Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs sought to retrospectively reclaim taxes and penalties, after accusing Rangers of mis-administering the EBTs. A first-tier tax tribunal has heard the case and the potential bill could be more than £50m. No purchaser would buy the club with that liability unresolved. Except for Craig Whyte.
Who is the Rangers owner?
A Motherwell-born businessman who claimed to have made his fortune as a venture capitalist. His network of companies could not be traced and he was deliberately vague about his wealth and his work. He paid off the £18m debt to Lloyds and bought the majority shareholding from Murray for £1. That minimal fee alone should have been a warning. He turned out to have funded the deal by borrowing £24.4m from Ticketus against future season-ticket sales, and then used unpaid PAYE and VAT to cover day-to-day running costs at Ibrox. He spent much of his reign misleading fans and his time ran out when HMRC forced him to appoint an administrator on 14 February, by which time he had run up an additional £15m tax bill. The big tax case is still unresolved, meaning that his nine months in charge left Rangers’ finances in an even greater mess.
What have been the consequences of administration?
Rangers were docked 10 points by the Scottish Premier League. The administrators revealed that there was a deficit of £1m a month to be covered, to allow the club to reach the end of the season. Normally, administrators seek to reduce costs by implementing redundancies, but instead they sought to strike a deal with the players. To make the necessary savings, Duff & Phelps, the administrators, needed to release the club’s highest earners, but the likes of Allan McGregor, Steven Davis, Steven Naismith, Steven Whittaker and Carlos Bocanegra are also assets. They are on long-term deals and could be sold to raise money. To keep the best of the squad together, the players had to agree to wage cuts. The highest earners have taken a 75 per cent decrease, the mid-earners 50 per cent, and the lowest-earners 25 per cent. No staff members have lost their jobs and the players’ contracts contain clauses guaranteeing minimum transfer fees or cuts of future fees.
So why all the drama this week?
Negotiations between the administrators and the players broke down on Tuesday, with each side accusing the other of preventing the deal from being agreed. The administrators released a statement that said if significant cuts were not made, the club would be unable to fulfil its fixtures. This was just a warning. All squad members signed up to the cuts yesterday, although Gregg Wylde and Mervan Celik left the club on Wednesday, both voluntarily declining any redundancy payment. They are being chased by several clubs, and will be free to sign after they receive international clearance from Fifa.
How do Rangers exit administration?
There are three potential outcomes. The least likely is that Rangers are wound up. The other two are more complex, but both ensure that the club continues. The conventional route out of administration is to arrange a Company Voluntary Arrangement with the creditors, which typically pays little more than 25p in the £1 for the debts. This requires 75 per cent of the creditors to vote in favour for the offer. The other scenario is for the administrators to sell the club’s assets – Ibrox, the training ground at Murray Park, the Albion car park across from the stadium, and the staff – to a new company, called, say, “Rangers 2012”. This “newco” then applies for the old Rangers’ position in the SPL.
Will the club be able to arrange a CVA?
Possibly. With Whyte’s £18m secured debt being contested by the administrators, HMRC would be the dominant creditor since it is owed £15m. The tax man has a policy of voting against CVAs in England because a football creditor rule demands that all football debts are paid first. No such rule applies in Scotland. The issue is complicated by the big tax case, as it is known, because that might see Rangers served with an additional bill of more than £50m.
So why not just sell the assets to a new company and start again?
There is some merit in this, because it means that the club starts afresh. However, the newco would need to apply to the SPL, and for membership of the Scottish Football Association. Many SPL clubs are angry that Rangers may have been avoiding tax while winning trophies and living beyond their means. Rangers would also not be able to play in Europe for three seasons, because Uefa rules require that clubs exist for three years before they are eligible.
Could Rangers end up in the Third Division?
Unlikely. The SPL would need to vote against Rangers being allowed re-entry. It would then invite a Scottish Football League club to restore the competition to 12 teams, leaving the SFL with an odd number of participants. The SFL would invite applications, and the new Rangers would be voted in because of the revenue they would generate. They would start in the third tier. Financial realities will prevent this from happening.
Why would Rangers be granted entry straight back into the SPL?
All of the top-flight’s commercial deals, including the broadcasting contract with Sky Sports, would be affected by the absence of Rangers. The television deal, in particular, requires a minimum of four Old Firm games a season and would have to be renegotiated if that clause was broken. Other sponsorship deals would also be reduced, since it is the global brands of both Old Firm clubs that draw money into the game. The other SPL teams would see their match-day revenues affected, in some cases by almost £100,000, because Rangers’ travelling support (along with Celtic’s) provides a crucial source of income. The triple effect of the TV deal, the other commercial deals and gate receipts being reduced would be enough to push other SPL clubs into financial difficulties. All but Celtic have needed to make drastic cuts during the past few years to reach an even keel, and their margins are tight. Motherwell, for example, despite reaching the Scottish Cup final last season and having every chance of finishing second this year, have told their manager, Stuart McCall, to cut his wage bill next season. After one home game was postponed, and Rangers were unable to pay for away tickets bought by their fans, Dunfermline were late in paying their players this month.
A Rangers would be ushered back in without problem, then?
The clubs would hold a vote, but the financial imperatives would be enough for them to agree. In return, though, they will likely demand a change to the voting rights – currently an 11-1 majority is required, allowing the Old Firm clubs a veto if they act together – and that the broadcast revenue is split more equitably. They will also seek to punish Rangers, with a further points sanction applied and perhaps additional penalties.
Does that make the CVA the best option?
It does in the sense that it retains Rangers’ 140 years of history and with it their place in the SPL. They won’t be able to play in Europe next season, because they will miss the 30 March deadline to submit accounts to the SFA as part of Uefa’s Club Licensing Scheme. The CVA would need to be set at such a level that it is better for HMRC than the 1p in the £1 it would likely receive if Rangers were liquidated. It would also have to include the big tax case bill, and that verdict will not be reached until next month.
What happens to Craig Whyte?
The administrators believe that they can take control of his shareholding, but for now he has to agree to sell the club if the CVA route is to work. Several potential bidders have met the administrators, including a consortium called the Blue Knights, which is headed by the former Rangers director Paul Murray. His preferred route is for Rangers to agree a CVA, and he has lined up several backers. The expectation is that he would immediately launch a share issue and so provide an opportunity for fans to take control of a large shareholding and participate in the decision-making At the Club
Summa
Oh, The grand old Master McCoist
He had 50 thousand fans
He marched them up to the top of the hill,
And he marched them down again.
And when they were up, they were up,
And when they were down, they were down,
And when they were in administration
They were neither up nor down.
So, where is today’s mood swing going to take us?
There was a sense of panic about yesterday’s leader with no explanation why it differed so much from the previous days and I fully expect Paul to shed some light on what prompted the sudden change.
I’ve personally used the expression ‘Rangers Demise’ previously and it was more in hope than expectation and, hand on heart, I don’t really expected ‘protestant ‘ Scotland to allow a taig team to lord it over their league. No slight intended against Celtic’s non-catholic supporters and if I could I would have phrased this differently.
Celtic exists in the SPL in splendid isolation and last year’s events could not have highlighted our position more than the silence from the other teams when the bombs, bullets and attacks were reined upon our manager, players and supporters.
Nothing has changed and I feel it is a bit premature to be planning boycotts when we haven’t identified a specific aim in which we could judge if it was successful, or not.
With Rangers in turmoil the worst possible move we could make at this time would to act prematurely on a minor annoyance of being excluded from a meeting.
We ourselves….we will determine our own path so let’s just be patient a little longer and let the others play their hands before we trump them.
Just came across this
very rare Siouxsie (maybe not to everyone’s taste)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIcTf7vd6xg&feature=autoplay&list=AVGxdCwVVULXeLr6edky1BnuKtCRo5wCFF&lf=list_related&playnext
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Forgive me for a re-post (of mine) but it was, hmmm, well received 2 days ago on this very blog:
“We can say no to the newco and we need to. If we dont, we have become appeasement apologists. We lose our integrity and, yes, our dignity!
I work closely with domestic violence perpetrators and victims so I feel confident about drawing this parallel.
We have been battered by thems for too many years!
We have normalised their behaviour and, whilst we dont like it, we accept that they wont change and, because they are bigger and stronger than us, there is nothing we can do to make things better
Each additional time we get battered, we react by just getting on with it!
Eventually, we become so desperate that we ask for help. Unfortunately, the law is not on our side so we continue to get battered
The law eventually changes but the law enforcers refuse to protect us. Instead, we are offered words of condolence or are made to feel that we are to blame.
We begin to turn to others. We realise that we are not alone. We draw strength and confidence from the support of others who are in the same predicament. We educate ourselves. We begin to understand that we are not reliant upon them. We express a desire to separate from thems.
Problem is that we have no where else to go. We cannot afford to live without thems.
Their excessive behaviour becomes intolerable to others. They are wildly in debt. Their extreme violent behaviour is becoming embarrassing for everybody associated with thems. Their law breaking becomes increasingly apparent so that even the cowardly law enforcers cannot ignore them.
We look forward to the day when our divorce becomes final. The day they will be made to leave. We rejoice with our friends. We welcome the day when we are free to act, free to prosper without their poisonous influence over our lives.
We are then told by the law enforcers that they will not receive just punishment and that we must continue to live together because we share a home and neither we nor thems can afford to live elsewhere.
What do we do?
We have come too far too turn back. We dont care if we will be poorer or if we will struggle to find a respectable place of refuge.
We have found our self respect and dignity and we will have nothing to do with thems unless they prove they have changed.
The only way they can do this is for thems to admit responsibility for their past sins by demonstrating remorse and accepting reasonable punishment.
If this does not happen then we must leave FOREVER!
NEVER TO RETURN!
If we dont then we die or revert to our past role as a perpetual victim, weak and useless!”
——
Someone posted yesterday (apologies for not crediting you):
” We have been excreting on you for years —-we propose to continue this practice but we now want you to lie down , open your mouths and pay for the pleasure “.
This is (literally) what happens to some domestic violence victims (or variations thereof).
A boycott is insufficient!
In the event of thems parachuting as newco into a re-formed SPHell (more hellish than ever) with minimal punishment, the ONLY ultimate solution for us is to leave.
To stand alone (with dignity, valiance and self respect intact) or, more preferably, to seek a new network of more supportive, friendly and accepting partners who look upon us as an equal rather than as an enemy to despise and humiliate at every turn.
GET OUT CELTIC, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
(after we’ve won the treble )
YNWA
“Stewart Regan, the SFA chief executive, defended the governing body against accusations from some Rangers fans that they should have examined Whyte more thoroughly from the outset. It was down to clubs themselves to do the first and most significant checks, he said, and in Rangers’ case that should have been former owner Sir David Murray. “The alternative to that is that [the SFA] would have to employ a cast of thousands to research every potential takeover, every potential change of director, across the entire game. We don’t have the resources or time to actually do that. We rely heavily on the clubs themselves.
“In the case of a plc like Rangers, you have a board of directors who are selling a club to an individual. That board of directors would undergo due diligence and, because they are a plc, would have to go through a fairly stringent process of testing out who they are selling the club to. When you [the SFA] get confirmation that the person they have sold the club to has satisfied all of these criteria, then you have to take a certain amount of credence from what those directors are saying. That is what the Scottish FA have done.
“When the individual has then told lies and hasn’t disclosed the disqualification [as a company director] that he was holding, then comes back and tries to argue that wording in Article 10 [of the SFA’s rules, on fit and proper conditions] is misleading and he believes it was the point of disqualification that had to be disclosed, not the fact he was still disqualified, and uses smoke and mirrors to try and buy time, then it becomes very difficult to deal with the matter quickly.”
“It is my understanding that for the four years or so the club was up for sale, the talk of acting in the best interests of Rangers was top of the agenda. I think that has to be taken into account. It’s easy after the event to try and find a scapegoat, to say we should have done a ‘fit and proper person’ test and that we should have prevented the takeover. I can’t see how we could have done that, quite frankly, without having gone through a long, bureaucratic process on every single director.””
(from today’s Herald)
For once, I agree with Mr Regan’s take on this one!
I liked his smoke and mirrors (jibe?) comment.
A GIRFUY to der hun!
HH
I like my uncontested dominance of the blog even if it is only because everyone else is still in bed!
Unfortunately (for me not you), when the kids (literally) call, that’s probably me for the day.
I wish you all, my Celtic family, a happy and successful weekend!
Bliddy hell, football! 2-0 tomorrow to the good ghuys!
HH
4 IAR?
Can he make it 5?
merseycelt
Glad you reposted as I missed the first one. An excellent analogy and were it not the case that the wifebeater`s mates decided the media agenda, a “quality” newspaper would, at the very least, use your article to show the Celtic Supporters` view on this situation..
Is the post all your own creation or a variation on a theme from your work?
JJ
Get In!
Enuf now!
HH
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/chris-lowry-cetlic-fans-should-stop-gloating-because-without-rangers-to-hate-theyd-be-lost-3044565.html
Chris Lowry: Cetlic fans should stop gloating because without Rangers to hate they’d be lost
Celtic fans poking fun at the Rangers financial situation
A GREAT wailing and gnashing of teeth went up all over Ireland when news broke this week that Glasgow Rangers Football Club might go into liquidation. The Scottish giants are already in administration, which was painful enough for their legion of fans here, but liquidation would mean their ejection from the Scottish Premier League (SPL). The very thought has been deeply distressing and not at all hilariously funny for football supporters in every corner of the island.
OK, OK, the above is of course irony, and not particularly subtle irony either, but you get my point. News that the ‘Gers could be wiped off the map has caused a collective belly laugh to shake the country.
But should we really be laughing?
Well, on one level of course we should. I don’t wish to generalise about a club that probably has its good points but I’ll go ahead and do so anyway: Rangers are a disgrace to football. A large part of their raison d’etre – virtually all of it, it sometimes seems – is to taunt, abuse and, whenever possible, physically attack rival fans. So if they’re booted out of the SPL then many will say good riddance.
You’d have to go a long way to find another club in world football that’s as sick with sectarianism. In fact, you’d have to go about … hang on, let me check on Google maps … four miles east, to Celtic Park.
I realise of course that every time anyone suggests such a thing, Celtic fans immediately jump up and down shouting “we’re nowhere near as bad”. They say “we’re pious and peaceable, and anyway, Rangers started it”.
But everyone knows how similar the two clubs are. In some ways Celtic might be slightly less bad – they seem to have more songs, for starters – but in other ways they’re actually worse. Consider their self-pity, the crackpot conspiracy theories their fans come out with when their team loses (eg that Scottish referees are freemasons out to get them), and, most annoyingly of all, the way they try to take the moral high ground. For example, they claim that the chant “Ooh, ah, up the ‘RA” in fact refers to the people who fought for Irish freedom 100 years ago, rather than the guys who blew up Enniskillen.
Come on, who are they kidding? The Rangers faithful may be unpleasant but at least when they sing, “we’re up to our necks in Fenian blood” they don’t turn round afterwards and say, “actually, our song is one of gratitude to those members of the Roman Catholic community who donated the blood we needed for a transfusion when we were involved in an unfortunate workplace accident”.
Celtic’s sanctimony fools nobody, certainly not anyone who has ever been in Dublin city centre after an Old Firm Derby. If you think Celtic fans are peace-loving poets, you only need to go onto O’Connell Street on one of those days. Your illusions won’t last long. If you can’t decipher what the Bhoys are singing, just look at the tattoos on their necks.
Of course we find Rangers’ chanting about the famine offensive, and we’re right to. But many Scottish people find it equally offensive when Celtic fans chant Provo slogans during the minute’s silence on Remembrance Day. Face it – both sets of supporters are as loathsome as each other.
It’s true that if Rangers fans disappear, then Celtic fans might grow up. Without rivals who are equally childish, the Hoops supporters might be shamed into behaving like adults. But where would Scottish football be without the Old Firm?
Far better off, some say, arguing that the dominance of the Glasgow teams makes the SPL a lopsided joke. There’s some truth to this: no team other than Rangers and Celtic has ever won the SPL in its present form. There have been occasions when every team other than the Old Firm has had a negative goal difference (you perhaps have to be a football nut AND a maths junkie to understand the significance of this but take it from me – it’s a freakish statistic).
But actually, without Rangers, the whole house of cards could collapse. Celtic would be the hardest hit. What would point of them if their fans had no pantomime villain to boo?
What, come to think of it, would be the point of Scottish football?
Good morning auld buoys, whits the craic?
Paul67 I’m not sure if that was you’re intention amigo, but you certainly ……. Erm invigorated debate about our club and it’s location, in a football sense,.
I firmly believe that our future is outside Scotland but I’d love it if we were able to retain a young team in a….. Scottish league.
As long as it’s eff all to do with the gang of ten that is, I’m hoping our much maligned board have an exit strategy up they’re sleeves as the lying and cheating over the last …. Rangers must win at all cost years has finished me with Scottish football.
It’s Scotlands shame not ours.
V
Theres a lot been said about the gang of 10 and their planned meeting, the 10 clubs will of course do what they feel is best for them in a financial sense, evidently sporting integrity or indeed concern for other creditors will not be on the agenda, im of the opinion some of the 10 clubs may just have underestimated the depth of feeling amongst their own support far less amongst ours, at work yesterday I was at a session attended by supporters of 5 (inc me) different SPL teams not of them were in favour of the suggested way out for rangers, they were all to a man keen that some level of financial restructuring re tv monies etc should be undertaken and all agreed that it made good business sense at this time to “force the hand” of Celtic to agree to such changes, one of the supporters (Hearts) asked if the SPL and member Clubs would be so accommodating if it was his Club? he also asked “where was the SFA/SPL input when HMRC served a notice on us for 800k.. the same 800k that was owed to us by rangers?” the consensus was hearts would be allowed to walk your own path, a member of my staff who follows St Mirren everywhere and has done for 30 years has vowed not to go back, I was admittedly extremely surprised at the level of anger amongst these guys, an anger im told is felt amongst their wider support, whether thats true or not is another matter, the irony of it all came from one of the group,a rangers supporter who said, “the danger is other Clubs will think there’s no longer a level playing field,”
Even he laughed when I said
“A bit like Easter Road……. there never has been”
Yes this was a minuscule snapshot and a bit like Whytes books couldnt be used in a financial audit sense, but following yesterdays discussion with supporters of other Clubs their own Chairman may be wise to take stock before they make a decision that could backfire on them, and thats before any Celtic Supporters boycott takes place.
Question
What in you’re opinion would be the damage to CFC if we walked away from the SPL?
If we were part of another league within say 12 months would it have been worth it?
I say YES
V
junglejim
The depressing thing about DV (as we call it) is how common the themes are.
Our patriarchal society ‘permits’ men to behave in this way towards many, many women. The stats are frightening. I think it’s the most common ‘job’ for Plod to have to deal with and, unsurprisingly, incidents increase after big football games (so there is a direct link).
Of course, the perpetrator’s behaviour stems from low self-esteem and deep rooted feelings of insecurity, isolation and an inability for self analysis and open expression.
Remind you of a group of supporters, by any chance?
That’s why they cling to empty soundbites like We Arra Peepil. That is the only way they can articulate and is the mindset used when beating up their poor, long suffering partners.
Make no mistake, many huns are wife beaters!
Just scroll through some of their disgusting blogs and you will read references to ‘Am so f***ing beelin, the wife’s gonnae get it tonight!” and suchlike.
But, yes, it was all made up!
HH