BSkyB suffering after taxing fans for years

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BT’s successful £897m bid for UK Champions League and Europa League rights is one of the most significant commercial developments for Celtic in years – if we continue to qualify for the Champions League group stage.

This money, £299m per season, more than double the current deal, is paid directly to Uefa.  What participating teams receive is directly linked to the value their domestic TV rights raise.  If Scottish clubs participate, they earn 10% of the UK distribution.

Scottish Premiership TV rights are currently shared by BT and Sky but they are worth a fraction of what they went for the last time a competitor (Setanta) made a genuine challenge to Sky.  It would literally take loose change from BT’s budget to remove Sky from the required list of providers for Scottish football fans.  Whatever the next SPFL deal looks like, having two major players bidding should ensure it is worth a lot more money.

The same is true for English football rights.  20 years ago Sky built their UK business on the back of English Premier League broadcast rights.  If BT want to supplant them in the TV market, enhance their ISP position and secure a lead in the emerging services on-demand market, English Premier League rights will be the major battleground.

BSkyB share prices is down around 10% today, reflecting the reality that they will either have to pay a whole lot more for the same rights in future, or they risk losing market share.  I’d be very happy to dump Sky, which has recently resembled a tax on committed Scottish football fans without the corresponding revenue spend.
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  1. The Battered Bunnet on

    PF aye @ 19.50

     

     

    Implied terms…

     

     

    …property in the goods…

     

     

    …35 million shares sold…

     

     

    …was it a pig, or a pup, in the Sevco IPO pokey?

  2. #Fearless Wee Oscar is on a Celticrollercoaster on

    Hot off press from Barcelona Quick News

     

     

    “Messi on 6 week bender”

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  3. ! ! Bhoys, urgent response required ! !

     

     

    Someone has deposited £20 into HCPT77 account through a teller transaction, this afternoon

     

     

    Please drop a note with name, so a team can be allocated

     

     

    I will update totals in next half hour

     

     

    Thanks Bhoys and Ghirls

  4. Anyone got any pigeons. I want to throw my cat amongst them.

     

     

    Virgil is one day younger than James Forrest.

  5. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    TBB

     

     

    Still no idea what your on about re Stokes

     

     

     

    Re Sevco….imagine the whole share issue is a ruse …..a con ….laugh of the century…thus far …perhaps more to come

  6. On the Malcolm Murray fiasco tonight. Did I hear right?

     

     

    “I have never told a lie in my life.”

     

     

    Or was I dreaming again. It’s been a long day. Somebody tell me I am right

  7. sftb

     

     

    I know you do, and i’ll never convince you.

     

     

    But a player is only worth the offer you accept for him, and Boruc had gone from invincible, to a liability in a matter of months, at the time of sale there was no chance of multi million pound suitors after ricks at Easter Rd, and other howlers playing for Poland in Ireland etc.

     

     

    His sale value fell out of his hands and into the back of the net, because he wasn’t training

     

    and lost his self discipline off the park, and indeed lost the plot.

     

     

    Fiorentina took a punt, and let him run out of contract, he’s dong well at Southampton because he’s got his game together.

     

     

    You can’t blame Celtic for getting rid of the Boruc of that time, who was out of control and wanted away, didn’t train and was a bit rubbish on the pitch.

  8. Better still if NFL could slip in a our day will come into an interview sometime. That would have them raging.

  9. Living_in_the_Love_of_the_Commons_People on

    Am I mad?

     

     

    I say move Virgil into number 9 and move Charlie back into central defence to partner Efe.

  10. NatKnow - Supporting Wee Oscar on

    ….PFayr supports WeeOscar

     

    19:44 on

     

    11 November, 2013

     

    Malcolm Murray …self aggrandising incompetent

     

     

    Third of a century in corporate finance dontcha know

     

     

    Why as chairman did he allow such a mess to develop at sevco

     

     

    Probably too pished to notice…steamer

     

     

    LOL! Had a good wee chuckle a that, PF!

  11. NatKnow - Supporting Wee Oscar on

    !!Bada Bing!!

     

    19:47 on

     

    11 November, 2013

     

    natknow-Heard Murray ,a total buffoon.Well done to Tom English for challenging the bigot on his No Surrender bollox.

     

     

    Agree mate. No big fan of any MSM but at least English had an extended go about it. Pathetic response from Murray though.

  12. The Battered Bunnet on

    PF Ayr

     

     

    Re Stokes, simply, he’s proven as not at the level in question.

     

     

    re Sevco, yip, imagine if the last 2 seasons in Scottish football had been no more than a meaningless fantasy, Hallowe’en style, with the Sevco Scotland Works IV dressed up as ‘Rangers’.

     

     

    Apart from the extraordinary implications at Law, what do you do with that if you’re an Administrator of the Game?

     

     

    Cry I suppose. Quite a lot too.

     

     

    TBB

  13. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Oldtim

     

    Well done you..

     

    Hope your feet are better and the blood gets pumping soon..o))

  14. Living_in_the_Love_of_the_Commons_People on

    If we did that, get big Chis Sutton up here as a striking coach and watch Virgil run riot.

  15. Living_in_the_Love_of_the_Commons_People on

    blantyretim is praying for the knox family

     

     

    Has the doc e-mailed you?

  16. NatKnow - Supporting Wee Oscar on

    hun skelper

     

    19:59 on

     

    11 November, 2013

     

    natknow – supporting wee oscar

     

     

    19:40 on 11 November, 2013

     

     

    Can you imagine the media reaction if Peter Lawwell used the phrase “Tiocfaidh ár lá”?

     

     

    How good would that be at the end of the AGM HH :-)

     

     

    Haha! I would pay money to see that!

  17. TBB.20.18

     

    If you,re an Administrator of the game ,what do you

     

    do about that ?

     

     

    Going by recent form. Brush it under the carpet.

  18. Off topic-Embdae stayed at the Carnoustie Golf Hotel recently? Any reviews or how the hotel or how the wee toon is,thanks.

  19. The Battered Bunnet on

    Need to brush up on the old Roman Numerals.

     

     

    Been a while since the last Tennents Sixes tourney…

  20. .

     

     

    Courtesy Celtic Underground..

     

     

     

     

     

    By

     

     

    Estadio Nacional

     

     

     

     

    The lack of questioning of the football Neil Lennon’s teams play should be a concern for the Celtic support just now. It seems people have fallen for the whole PLC, Neil Lennon the brand plodding on when we should be doing more on the park than just showcasing the next set of shop window players.

     

     

    At a time when the league is considered easier than it has been in our history we must be playing some of the most inept non creative football we have ever played. The argument that we play that way domestically to get used to it for European games really cant stack up when you consider players never play with their European head on in domestic games and we regularly struggle against average teams.

     

     

     

     

    Are season ticket holders and Celtic TV subscribers not due a bit more than that?

     

     

     

     

    The shop window thing we sold these players, the ‘come star in the Champions League and we will both make money’ dream can’t help. Suppose it’s how we have to sell players to Celtic now but it doesn’t give them hunger to impress, a few do and fall for the club, but its rare.

     

     

     

     

    In this day and age you can’t really blame them for failing to turn up against low league teams we face in the cup. That’s where the manager comes in, he has to motivate, difficult in those circumstances but he should be able to make players who are picked for those games hungry for them. Good first teamers, bit part players and reserves should be hungry in those games. Maybe they have been, lack of creativity in those games also let the team down. Even if there’s no motivation surely the football against lower standard teams should over come.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Season tickets are sold on loyalty or new deals that are offered, is it wrong to think football should sell tickets? The PLC are delighted with what we are doing just now, very fan friendly manager plodding through the league and turning it on for CL games and playing negative football for points/money. I love what we have done in the last two seasons in the Champions League but the football has been horrendous and creativity inept at times.

     

     

     

     

    Away to Ajax it was clear from early on we were continuing the instruction to win free kicks or corners in their half, it seemed our only creative idea, to me that’s not Celtic. It’s embarrassing.

     

     

     

     

    I was embarrassed to see the Spanish paper AS description of the performance at home against Barcelona as non existent in creatively or football ideas. We all have been abroad and heard folk ask about Celtic who love our reputation for pure beautiful attacking football, people only talk about the fans and atmosphere now, probably for the best they don’t talk about the football, or lack of it.

     

     

     

     

    In the Chris Sutton book he mentions Neil Lennon as not having a creative thought in his head while talking about a Seville run game. Of course this was talking about Neil Lennon as a player but you have to wonder if it’s the same as a manager. Central midfielders who are instructed to pass it wide for wingers to fling a ball in or win free kicks or corners seems to be our attacking plan these days. It must be obvious to opposition mangers to shut down our wide players and leave us with no plan B.

     

     

     

     

    Everywhere we go now the reputation on Celtic is this Lennonaccio thing, dour turgid defensive play but the fans are great. See Iniesta, Xavi etc for quotes. I think Aiden McGeady was the last player an opposition manager or staff came away from Celtic Park talking about rather than the ‘atmosphere’ we know the atmosphere is good. Would it not be good to hear a team mention football or a player? That would make me proud instead of the patronising ‘atmosphere’ thing.

     

     

     

     

    I appreciate we have our limits financially, so do Ajax, Basel and many other clubs. Do they take the easy route and the utter fear and lack of creativity we are becoming known for? They don’t.

     

     

     

     

    The football brand has been lost while the PLC brand has done well, is this Celtic?

     

     

     

     

    I think any other manager would be chased for this lack of football but think he is very comfy in his role due to people liking non managerial things. Yes he has suffered away from football for his involvement with Celtic and yes this is a good reason for our continued support of him but questions need to be asked about the football.

     

     

     

     

    Willie Malley: “Celtic Park, where a man is juded by his football alone.”

     

     

     

     

    Is it?

     

     

     

    Summa

  21. Phyllis Dietrichson on

    Just seen an advert for the new Daniel O’Donnell album – one of the tracks is Penny Arcade!!!

  22. Bada Bing

     

    I didn’t stay at the hotel but the championship course is brill, tough even without wind, fairway pot bunkers everywhere

  23. bsr

     

     

    I did not blame them for getting rid of Boruc.

     

     

    I blamed them for making such a poor deal in getting £2m or less. Italian clubs were paying much more for ranked players and, even if they would only commit to an initial £2m we should have had had an appearance clause built in.

     

     

    An unfit Artur displaced a French international keeper who they had paid £5m for, whom they then sold to Genoa, keeping Artur in preference. He was used over 30 times each season by a top Serie A outfit. They paid 3m euros for their next Number 1.

  24. Gene's a Bhoy's name on

    Don’t know why there is excitement over the latest at sevco -sfa will ask “did you know about this” to which the answer “honest mister we didnae know anything about it”- “that’s ok then ” replies the sfa

     

     

    nothingtoseeheretimmyCSC

  25. PFayr

     

     

    And remains charged with a £500 SFA fine for making ‘gestures’ to the former fans of a former club.

     

     

    I suspect the ‘MSM hounding’ and trumped up charge. played a large part, in his indiscipline,

     

    and desire to move away from Sevconia.

  26. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    hun skelper

     

     

    19:59 on 11 November, 2013

     

    natknow – supporting wee oscar

     

     

    19:40 on 11 November, 2013

     

    #######

     

    As appropriate as my ill-judged, but humourously intended, cry of ‘Gaun yersel big yin!!!’ in the Rottenrow labour suite at the birth of the eldest.

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