Drama Queens, LostBhoys and where we came from

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There will be no mention of ‘Drama Queens’ from me, but those who were uncontrollably distressed by ‘defeats’ in meaningless friendlies will no doubt be delighted to lean a Celtic team largely staffed by undergraduates got the better of Brentford yesterday.  The rest of us remain unmoved, although I was pleased Amido Balde received some encouragement.

As many of you will know, the LostBhoys have been broadcasting podcasts covering Celtic’s history in recent months.  It has been an incredibly professional, informative and entertaining look at our club through the years.   This weekend they broadcast a decade I helped them cover, 1950-1960.

It encapsulated a seminal period for Celtic.  When the SFA ruled the club would face suspension if they continued to fly the Irish flag, we could have gone out of business, or forever been robbed of our heritage.  The decade saw many of the great names in our history at Celtic Park: McGrory, Tully, Stein, Fallon, McNeill, Chalmers, Auld, Gribben and Hogan, as well as the ever-influential, Sir Robert Kelly, but to those at the time it looked like we were heading nowhere.  Celtic lost more games in the 50s than in any other decade, but as we know, it’s darkest before the dawn….

There are great contributions from Charlie Gallacher and John Fallon, and Terry Dick, son of Glen Daly, who recorded The Celtic Son, told us how the song came into being (it was basically the work of Charlie Tully).

You can download this episode here but catch them all, you’ll be glad you did.

Two days until football returns to Celtic Park; can’t wait.
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  1. celticrollercoaster on

    art of war

     

     

    It is a shame that Keevins, Walker or Nicholas etc put the judas pound ahead of what is right.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  2. CRC- I find it hard to believe that he actually wrote that pish. Think he’s been Irvined.

     

     

    Enjoy rest of holiday. Work tomorrow for us plebs.

     

     

    HH

  3. Rascar Capac on

    Old Walter doesn’t come out of the Keevins article well at all.

     

     

    Sounds like an aggressive bully.

     

     

    Rather clumsy of Hugh…

  4. Rascar Capac on

    Art of War

     

     

    Dunno, maybe.

     

     

    But he is not stupid, he is at least a decent writer.

     

     

    And he’ll know how that sounds.

  5. Rascar Capac on

    On reflection, and remembering listening to Alex Thomson v Radio Clyde earlier on, I am now of the opinion that Shug isn’t brave enough to go after Grand Wizard Smith, and that the article is probably just the pish it reads as.

  6. Really pathetic of Hugh Keevins to write a whole article based on getting a rollicking from Batty Wattie.

     

     

    The whole article smells of “I wisnae that bothered” delivered in a snivelling, creepy manner.

     

     

    What a sad excuse for a journalist.

     

     

    The Mister Micawber of Scottish Football.

  7. 16 roads - Neil Lennon walks on water. on

    If you insure a motor,and have a garage to store the said motor in…then it stands to reason that your quote will be a wee bit less than it would be if your vehicle was parked over-night on the street.

     

     

    They did their homework on that score alright.The buses,worth millions were stored in a reasonably secure bus depot.A depot that seemingly had no security guards,no guard dogs or CCTV?

     

     

    Was the place even alarmed?

     

     

    A few comedians (blame Timmy sure,that always works) are able to sit and cut away at the place with an angle grinder,heaven only knows how long for,and not a peep from anybody.

     

     

    It wasn’t professional as such,more like brazen.

     

     

    None of my business,however if your were in the shoes of the poor insurance company…

  8. Auldheid,

     

    Are you sure about the wee tax bill,

     

    Did whyte no uncover a tax bill that was outstanding for a lot longer than his involvement ?

     

    Can anyone else remember the tax bill whyte uncovered in his due diligence, I’m sure it was the final nail to force Murray to handover for £1

  9. The Boy Jinky on

    Googybhoy

     

     

    Im heading down to trafford park this afternoon for a few meetings this week.

     

    Was advised by a couple of cqners to watch the match in o sheas in town

  10. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    Looks like business as usual for the newest team in Scotland!

     

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    wullyRFC, on 22 July 2013 – 12:05 AM, said:

     

    What happened with Jig?

     

     

    He committed a bad foul on a player (think he elbowed him) and because it was a friendly the ref told Ally to sub him off rather than have to send him off

  11. The Boy Jinky on

    16 roads

     

     

    Its one of two things dependant on the policy..insurance scam or malicious attack by rival company .

  12. The Boy Jinky on

    Crushed nuts

     

     

    When charlie mulgrew was shown a second innocuous yellow card in a pre season friendly against Ajax … he missed the first match of the new season

  13. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    the boy jinky

     

     

    06:56 on 22 July, 2013

     

    Crushed nuts

     

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    Clearly the ref wasn’t in the loop! Some poor schmuck gets a sore face, Ally gets the nod! How often has that happened in div 3?

  14. Auldheid,

     

    Just done some digging, yer right, cheers for keepinge straight on that.

     

    Pity I’d like to have dragged them back to the 2008 regs, anyone know how many years of council tax they owed ?

  15. the boy jinky

     

     

    06:46 on 22 July, 2013

     

     

    Googybhoy

     

     

    Im heading down to trafford park this afternoon for a few meetings this week.

     

    Was advised by a couple of cqners to watch the match in o sheas in town

     

     

     

    Yes O sheas would be my advice or possibly Waxy o’Connors in Printworks. I am working otherwise would join you for a few.

  16. Morning all.

     

     

    Heard a quote from McCoist after he was informed about the blaze at Bruce’s garage in Salsburgh – he said he was “gutted”.

     

     

    So was the bus.

     

     

    HH!!

  17. Murdochbhoy, yermanfromMK on

    Good morning CQNers,

     

     

    McCoist has a history of making rash statements, the happy chap really needs to engage brain first, but, then again ……

  18. twists n turns on

    The truth outs.

     

     

     

    Cardiff City smooth over Celtic rift with Victor Wanyama ‘correction’ and could target more Scots

     

     

     

    After a row broke out between Cardiff City owner Vincent Tan and Celtic boss Neil Lennon over the weekend, moves have been made to cool the situation.

     

     

     

    Cardiff City are keen to avoid a row with Celtic boss Neil Lennon as Malky Mackay could have other targets north of the border Cardiff City are keen to avoid a row with Celtic boss Neil Lennon as Malky Mackay could have other targets north of the border

     

     

     

    Cardiff City believe they have moved to cool a rift with Celtic after issuing what they dub ‘a correction’ to remarks made by owner Vincent Tan on Victor Wanyama.

     

     

    Celtic manager Neil Lennon criticised Tan for claiming last week that the Scottish giants had accepted a record Bluebirds £10m bid for the blockbusting midfield man… only to then up the price.

     

     

    Manager Mackay was away at the time of Tan’s comments with his 26-man squad on a week’s training camp in Switzerland.

     

     

    Mackay has brought a number of Scots down to South Wales during his two-year spell as manager and may have other targets north of the border he wishes to pursue, having seen the move for Wanyama collapse.

     

     

    Former City star Joe Ledley is another player the Bluebirds have been linked with, although he has signed a new Celtic deal and made it clear his immediate future is in Glasgow.

     

     

    Cardiff will be hoping. though , that their swift response to Lennon’s outburst, whereby they issued what they dub ‘a correction’ on their website, will take the sting out of the matter.

     

     

    Biillionaire owner Tan said last week that he personally pulled the plug on the Wanyama deal because he believed it had become too costly.

     

     

     

     

     

    Tan claimed: “We agreed to buy Wanyama, but they (Celtic) raised what they wanted from £10m and I said no.

     

     

    “They ask for £10m, then the other party is interested and they say it’s £12m, £12.5m.”

     

     

    Lennon hit back angrily ahead of Celtic’s pre-season friendly at Brentford on Saturday, insisting there was an entirely different version of events.

     

     

    “We totally disagree with what he (Tan) said publicly,” said Lennon.

     

     

    “There was never a deal agreed with Cardiff, and there was never a price set for Victor.

     

     

    “Southampton’s was the only confirmed offer we had, and it was considerably more than the figure Cardiff were talking about.

     

     

    “It is frustrating if he (Tan) is trying to give us a bad name in this deal because we acted as we always do, with the greatest professionalism and dignity towards ourselves and any other club.

     

     

    “The bottom line was that Cardiff made an offer that was not up to the requirement of what we wanted.

     

     

    “It was nowhere near the valuation of the player and nowhere near the structure of the deal that suited us. In the end, it was never going to happen.”

     

     

     

    Victor Wanyama in action for Southampton Victor Wanyama in action for Southampton

     

     

    Cardiff responded to Lennon’s stinging remarks by posting the following official statement on their website.

     

     

    Under a banner headline ‘Wanyama Correction,’ it read: “The club and Tan Sri Vincent Tan would like to clarify that while negotiations with Celtic were on-going for the proposed transfer of Wanyama, no formal bid was officially accepted.

     

     

    “Having been unable to reach an agreement, we thanked Celtic for their help and have since directed our attention to other targets.”

  19. twists n turns on

    Murdo MacLeod: Celtic must give their loyal fans a reason to attend matches in form of a marquee signing

     

     

     

    MURDO argues that Celtic fans always respond to a team that plays with style – therefore a new star in their midst could re-invigorate matches.

     

    22 Jul 2013 00:01

     

     

     

     

     

     

    THE Rangers fans get praised, and deservedly so, for the loyalty they’ve shown to their team while they’re forced to play in the lower leagues.

     

     

    A fanaticism able to be measured in season tickets sold by their tens of thousands at Ibrox.

     

     

    But what about the devotion of the Celtic support at the same time?

     

     

    They’re playing in a league that doesn’t include their historic rivals or has the attraction of the derby match that was once the main reason for buying a season ticket.

     

     

    And the Celtic punters know there could have been two championship flag ceremonies after the win over Inverness at home last May.

     

     

    They could have had one for last season’s title followed by another one for finishing ahead of everyone else this season.

     

     

    Because that’s what’s going to happen.

     

     

    The standard of team might be higher than the ones Rangers have to face week in, week out. But the inevitability of how the season’s going to end is the same at both clubs.

     

     

    So on that basis it’s time for Celtic to give their own paying public an incentive to go on packing out their stadium – and that would be in the form of what’s known as a marquee signing.

     

     

    The money’s there to make an imaginative, exciting capture of a player who would light up the crowd and re-invigorate matches that always look like foregone conclusions.

     

     

    Celtic is like a bank on legs at the moment. The club just can’t help making money on players who go for way in excess of what was paid for them.

     

     

    Going back to Ki Sung-Yueng and then taking in Victor Wanyama, the soon-to-be-sold Gary Hooper and others who Celtic might cash in on, like Kelvin Wilson, the tally could be staggering.

     

     

    Wilson was signed for nothing because he was out of contract at Nottingham Forest and now the English club could pay at least a few million pounds to get him back again.

     

     

    But the ordinary fans’ priority isn’t revelling in how much money Celtic have in the bank. They need to be given a reason to go to matches.

     

     

    The Celtic fans always respond to a team that plays with style. They want to see a new star in their midst and not just for the Champions League group stages they hope will be coming along soon.

     

     

    The club needs to keep faith with their regular customers and give them someone who’ll brighten up their weekends as well.

     

     

    I’m thinking about a creative, No.10 type player because another striker could be a complication rather than a colourful addition.

     

     

    Amido Balde’s off the mark with his first goal for Celtic, scored against Brentford at the weekend, and Anthony Stokes played well against Cliftonville.

     

     

    Those two and Tony Watt will think they deserve the right to contest the jersey on a regular basis. If anybody else came in, Neil Lennon could have unhappy players.

     

     

    But a playmaker would bring fresh vigour and they could easily be coaxed on the promise of Europe.

     

     

    The club’s worth a fortune and the support deserve a reward for the contribution they continue to make to the pot.

  20. twists n turns on

    Celtic’s Gary Hooper: The unwanted necessity

     

     

     

    Gary Hooper

     

     

    Should a Premier League club just bite the bullet and pay the asking price for the Celtic striker?

     

     

     

    Goal-scorers are either the most sought-after or the most closely guarded of footballers, depending on your circumstances.

     

     

    If you have one, you are unlikely to lose them without a fight. And if you need one, you had best be prepared for a scrap every bit as tough as the ones that take place on the pitch.

     

     

     

     

     

    Signing a prolific frontman is akin to unearthing buried treasure; which is why the failure of any club to yet match Celtic’s valuation of Gary Hooper is confusing despite its economic sense.

     

     

    In the last year of his contract, it can be argued that no team would pay £6million for a player who will cost nothing in 12 months. And yet it can just as easily be argued that the fee Celtic are reportedly asking for is nothing compared to the value Hooper’s goals will bring to a club.

     

     

    When Norwich City had four failed bids back in January, the fact they tip-toed towards the Scottish club’s valuation in increments of £500,000 suggested they were only interested in a sale if it was on their terms – like a boot-sale haggler not afraid to walk away.

     

     

    Similarly Hull City pulled out of the race for Hooper despite their knowledge that his goals could be the difference between a brief stay in the Premier League and the opportunity of making it their home.

     

     

    With Norwich City now reportedly considering either Fabio Quagliarella or Maxi Lopez as a strike partner for Ricky van Wolfswinkel, it seems the only club currently making eyes at the former Scunthorpe striker is QPR.

     

     

    But would he really turn his back on league titles and Champions League campaigns for a stab at Championship promotion?

     

     

    It makes complete sense for Celtic to hold out for every last penny for a man who knows exactly where the goal is. What doesn’t make sense is the Premier League’s complete lack of faith in, or courage to sign, a man who has scored 81 goals in just three seasons; a man who at just 25 has the time and the talent to get even better.

     

     

    Great strikers are necessities for any team wishing to be a success. But in the case of Hooper he appears to be an unwanted necessity. Unwanted, that is, by all but the club for whom he currently plays.

     

     

    Where do you think Hooper will be playing next season? And are Premier League sides foolish for not paying Celtic’s asking price?

  21. TnT

     

     

    Was that your fag money that shortened the price on Waila on Saturday . Keep it going .

     

     

    HH

  22. Tom McLaughlin

     

    03:33 on

     

    22 July, 2013

     

     

    ‘The Mister Micawber of Scottish Football.’

     

     

     

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    Uriah Heep, Shirley?

  23. The Boy Jinky

     

    06:54 on

     

    22 July, 2013

     

    16 roads

     

     

    ‘Its one of two things dependant on the policy..insurance scam or malicious attack by rival company .’

     

     

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    Assuming of course that the garage itself was not a listed building.

     

     

    Listed buildings have a habit of spontaneously combusting.

     

     

    It’s a Krooked, Krooked world.

  24. Morning all. Lovely down here today.

     

     

    I see the EBC are at it again. They can’t really help themselves. It’s their mindset: Britain=Engerlund. Some idiot was saying that the latest royal wean would be the 43rd in line from William the Conqueror. I thought the King or Queen of the United Kingdom began with James VI (1).

  25. MacDubhghaill on

    Murdo MacLeod: Celtic must give their loyal fans a reason to attend matches in form of a marquee signing

     

    Why would fans turn up if Celtic bought a tent

  26. lilys grandpa on

    ernie lynch,8.11

     

    Morning,

     

     

    Hes got a lot to be, Evr so ‘umble about, ;)

     

     

    lily grandpa