I reckoned Champions League participation was worth circa £22m to Celtic. By contrast, Europa League football will be worth less than a quarter of that. Ancillary income, such as retail and kiosk sales, will also suffer.
The challenge now is to improve the team without that income. This should not be impossible. Malmo managed it, and we’re not in a situation where the bank is hammering at the door. But what should be clear, is that the next five days represent the best chance to strengthen the team for next August’s qualifiers. There’s a notion that the biggest games of our season come early, but we’ve 11 months to plan for 2016’s biggest games.
Three things to remind you about:
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There’s a Mary’s Meals collection from 1pm on the Celtic Way ahead of the game on Saturday. Ideally we’re looking for backpacks, but handtowels (the school kitchens you paid for have handwashing facilities and each child is given their own handtowel), pencils, rulers, etc.
If the kids got new kit for starting school last week, dig out the old stuff and bring it along.
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The Green Man
What is ridiculous about not wanting to see Celtic get pumped 6-1 by Barcelona. Not just pumped but embarrassed.
I’d rather watch us compete with Juventus in the EL than go through that again.
It’s not just the pumping. It’s the ridicule from smsm bluenose and the arguing that such a result causes amongst us. We dodged a bluenose bullet in the draw unless of course Malmo demonstrate that the gulf between them and their group opponents is not as big as we imagine. How they do will be a yardstick of where we are.
For 30 minutes in the home game v Malmo I thought we looked like a CL group level team. RD took us to that level. What he has to do is go over that game and identify when, how and why that level dropped in order to make it last 90 minutes or until the opposition are out of site.
You can continue to rant about what isn’t or come and join the rest of us who want to enjoy what is.
We can only bloom where we are planted we are not bloody Triffids!
We have wasted millions on poor signings we have wasted millions on Lennoxtown and a youth programme that hasnt developed much young talent for Celtic mind you a few are with other SPL teams.It is time that there was a root and branch reconstruction at Parkhead starting with the Scouting team. H.H.
I wonder what CQN would have been like over the last few days if we had progressed. I suspect there would have been very few sightings of the ‘sack the board’, ‘sack PL’, ‘sack Ronnie’, ‘spend more money’ style posts that have been in the ascendancey. Everyone is disappointed, and many of the comments are fully understandable in light of that disappointment, but I think a simple fact is being overlooked in all of this. There is an enormous pressure on these play off games, and the margins between success and failure are small. Yes our chances may have been better with a different coach, different players or different chief executive, but the glaring error of the referee in not at the very least, allowing our ‘goal’ to stand certainly didn’t help, and in such games, such refereeing errors can fatally affect the outcome. So ‘sack the luck’ can be added to the list.
However the main reason that we are out was correctly pointed out by our much maligned manager (and he has even been much maligned for pointing it out), and that is that the players were scared. We saw enough in the first game at CP, to know that we had better players, but for some reason the same players froze in the second leg, and allowed an inferior team to roll them over.
I think the manager could be considered culpable in the failure if Malmo, with a lesser budget, had outplayed us over both legs. I am not so sure you can blame him when players walk out for the second leg and completely fail to function at levels seen in previous games. The players were scared, and the players did not perform.
The real test for Ronnie, having identified the weakness, is what can he do about it? IMO Collins is the wrong choice as assistant. If the players lack the mental strength to succeed, then let’s get someone in who can teach them that. JC is too similar to RD in that his emphasis is on coaching and fitness. Maybe Sutton, or someone of that ilk, could instill a bit of steel and a winners resolve, into a group of players who are not the least talented we have ever had.
Don’tMessWithBigSutty CSC
Watching Ajax and they don’t look too clever at all.
Auldheid
Its clear to me….if its not working, make changes.
Now, I don’t understand why that is such a problem.
Its a natural reaction to failure in football terms.
Now, I may indeed rant and rave about the failures at board level…but I’m quite right to.
The strategy is obviously wrong.
I don’t expect Celtic to beat everyone we play, but id rather agree with the opinion of Roy Keane, who believes Celtic should be a CL team.
There is nothing wrong with ambition…we are Celtic after all.
We need to change….its not good enough being cannon fodder,…we can surely do better.
HH
I would like to see more creativity in central midfield.
I have high hopes for Armstrong and Allan
SOLMICK on 27TH AUGUST 2015 6:07 PM
This used to be a blog for celtic
Supporters now even Mcmurdo ‘s
Being quoted. Time for a break
Rock bottom.
UTLR
Top post bud, CQN corner on match days………..real Celtic fans
Auldheid. Ask any footballer and they will tell you playing the best teams makes you a better player now Ronny has often said he looks for players to improve. Now Malmo have that opportunity and alas not Celtic.Your statement that we can only bloom where we are planted we had a choice as to where we were planted that is why we played Malmo but we blew it. If you are happy to have dodged a bullet I think you will find your self in the minority we are supporters of Glasgow Celtic and want our team to be at the top table and to play the best you well just enjoy the Raith Rovers game you wont be feart of getting gubbed, H.H.
It’s obvious we had a 7/1 chance of getting Real in the draw. Malmo getting them didn’t mean we’d have drawn them. Yes, we would have dodged a bullet. I thanked God when the final whistle went in Barcelona, losing only 6-1. It could have been 9 or 10 and the thought terrified me at 6-0 after an hour.
Auldheid,
Depressing post from a normally productive poster.
Who cares about ‘bluenoses’ or the media?
What lack of ambition.
Good evening friends?
Consensus on here is Celtic are better than malmo, based on because, and how many of them would get into our team, hardly a strong argument!!! Oh and all of them on wednesday evening btw!!!
out of our team Gordon, jenko, izzy, bitton, gms, Forrest, Armstrong, Allan and griff would be kept, those not mentioned should be asked to find new clubs.
reason being if those players who played are so bloody good then they lay down you cant be that good and that bad at the same time, its one or the other!!
and those players that cant get in ahead of the players who made the squad on wednesday can hardly be meriting such good wages while Joe bloggs has to earn his money
discrasful, worst decision playing mulgrew, legs are gone, but don’t tell anyone just keep given him the money!!!
imposters
I’ve stated on here that I am enjoying watching Celtic this season. The games have been largely exciting. Malmo away was the exception – we were, simply, not good enough.
I am generally supportive of the current strategy – buy young, sell at peak and live within our means.
I would prefer a fan owned club that was run along similar lines but with the interests of shareholders bottom of the list of priorities and football absolutely first and foremost.
But there are some things that have to be said and some things that have to be improved upon.
1. Buying young and selling at peak – we are buying young. But we are selling them too early. I know it’s hard to hold on to them when they want to go but from a football point of view where would we be if we had kept Wanyama for an extra 2 years? In short the turn over of our best players is too quick – it leaves us constantly playing players who are ‘bedding in’ – there is little evidence of overlap seasons – say for example we sell VVD – this has not given Boyata time to bed in while we have an assured and experienced CB beside him. We are not getting this right. It is hurting us in a footballing sense. It needs tweeked. We are also not getting the very best seasons of players careers out of them. Others are benefitting from that.
2. Exclusively signing younger players with sell on value – there has to be room for experienced heads on the wage bill. Simples.
3. The youth set up – is it producing the goods?
4. The striker………. we all grew up on great Celtic goalscorers – I won’t list them but they’ve dried up considerably since the departure of the KoK – McDonald and Hooper knew where the net was. Griffiths does too – but was starved of decent chances on Tuesday. I don’t know how to address this but then I’m not paid to do so. But I do wonder why we can’t find and develop a goalscorer or two from our own back yard…….
This is a period of reflection and I expect to feel a whole lot better about things in a few weeks time but we need a lift. We need a sign that Celtic have learned a thing or two in the last week. The operation needs tightened up and improved. We have the resources.
Not surprised to see Qarabag go through comfortably against the Swiss.
The bottom line is ………..you’re a Jim Goodwin
Oops! Auldheid, might have mixed you up with Greenman. CqN gremlins.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS. A lot of what you say makes sense to me however, where we part company is on your criticism of our Black players colour has absolutely nothing to do with Celtics problems. H.H.
I’m sorry, but I’m just not buying the “we’re making progress” spin being put on Tuesday night’s gubbing. If I was a marketing man I’d do the same, but the truth is that the long term trend is that Celtic are getting weaker. Yes we are better than 12 months ago, but that’s an abysmally low benchmark. We were a shambles in every aspect this time last year and anything other than the relatively modest progress made since would have resulted in a mutiny. Looking back over a more realistic period you see a club that has reduced its ambitions. Essentially the unspoken narrative is that the best times are in the past and there won’t be a repeat of Seville or those great CL nights anytime soon. Much of that is out with the club’s hands, due to the globalised economy in which the game operates these days and the structural disadvantages of playing in Scotland. The real measure of the club’s stewardship is whether, factoring in those unavoidable disadvantages, the club is maximising its potential. If you look at Tuesday night and last year’s debacles, you can only reasonably conclude that it is not. So the marketing men step in and try to distract us from this rather unmarketeable reality and get us to focus on “the progress” we’re making. They need to sell us hope or they’ve got nothing. They sure don’t have the results to support their narrative. I support Ronny and think he’s a good fit with the impoverished ambition of Lawwell and Desmond. However, he needs to spare us this “we’ll learn from this” mantra. You can’t learn from it when you’re stuck with mediocre players as a matter of club policy. You’ll always come up short in Europe. And it all sounds a bit too Big Tony Mowbray for my liking.
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES.
We have a valuable asset in VVD, he’s worth £10 million + in today’s transfer market.
Why not speculate half of this amount earlier in the transfer window to aid our qualification. What’s the worst that could have happened? Still fail to qualify, sell Virgil, make £5 + mill & have one or two decent players to enjoy for the Europa league.
Who knows, one of these players may have gone on to be our next £10 mill + asset & given us another opportunity next summer to speculate again?
What are we left with now? Still likely to sell VVD & no doubts we will buy a few players to placate the fans.
What was the point in waiting?
Auldheid
“I’d rather watch us compete with Juventus in the EL than go through that again.”
I’d rather get pumped by Barcelona in the champions league than get pumped by Juventus in the Europa. The difference in income would no doubt soften the blow.
JFH
“We are supporters of Glasgow Celtic and want our team to be at the top table and to play the best”
Spot on Joe
Expectation management in overdrive on CQN.
HH
The bottom line. Stupid racist.
Evening Jobo I hope you are well. H.H.
The Bottom Line is……. that comment is racist. Hopefully an admin will be around to remove it.
I remember a rather well thought of Paul Elliot – classy centre back. Virgil Van Dyke – what would you describe him as?
Gary Caldwell not occasionally a ‘bomb scare’, Stephen McManus gone from captaining CL Celtic teams to playing for Motherwell – is their colour anything to do with their msitakes?
FFS.
If this is CQN (and it’s not only this BTW – there are some seriously flawed thinkers on here this last number of months) then it’s not for me……
ROBERTTRESSELL
I’ve no great problem wi buying young,bringing them on,selling for a profit. But once done,we should be looking to buy at the next level,and so on,not the original one.
The only way we can continue to improve is to continue to have better players. If we are happy with mediocrity,we will continue to suffer it.
Many salient points made today by real Tims. It was amusing how the trolls withered earlier in the face of intelligence and no lack of knowledge and business acumen.
The game in on Tuesday was lost by players receiving £33 million in wages, compared with the £8 million of Malmo. Any discussion over culpability should be filtered through this illuminating fact. Why were they the more aggresive and motivated team on the field? Where were our millionaires when it mattered? Ronny can’t play the game for the ones wearing the jersey. In my own work such apparent shirking of my operational responsibilities would be met with the sack.
The debate will rage on and I doubt very few signings can be expected before the window closes, despite Paul’s appeal to prepare for next season’s qualifiers.
If VVD does go, I’d like to see a 30 year old street fighter CB signed from Italy, or Spain. I like my centre backs like my red wine: mature, robust and uncompromising in that they usually leave you with a splitting headache. Okay fine, I’ll say it- I like my CB’s to be thugs. I wonder how the Malmö striker would have fared trying to bully Bobo Balde? This is, of course, unlikely as we will sign yet another project, a la the business model.
The silence from the boardroom and executive offices remains deafening.
And all this from a happy clapper.
Mon the ‘Ticketmaster Celtic’……….
Tuesday has gone. Fuggedaboutit!
Tickets for EL package available……..
Mon the ‘Ticketmaster Celtic’……….
Ticketmaster Celtic………..
Europa League; we’ll be there, we’ll be there…..
T. I. C. K…………..T.I.C.K.
Ticketmaster, Ticketmaster, outsourcing is our game……..
One Ticketmaster, there’s only one Ticketmaster………
Outsourcing CFC, we’ll be there………..
TBM
Just seen John Brown former Oldco player being interviewed on STV.Maybe he should be interviewed side Ways facing as then all hard of hearing viewers who lip read can have a clue what he’s saying.
I am astounded of forehead that we have people still making excuses for PL and the boards complete and utter failure.
We need to starve them of money. It’s the only way we can get rid of these leeches.
‘ Guys like Hooper, Forster, Wanyama – their name and their transfer fees were made through their exploits in the Champions League, not through what they did v Aberdeen/ Inverness/ Motherwell et al. – See more’.
Good point tgbs
THEGLASGOWCELTICWAY. You will never believe it but he actually spoke some sense. H.H.
BMCUWP – I can’t disagree with that. If we turn a profit on someone then absolutely it should where possible be put to use in that way. Ell Bhoy is right too – if I know I’ve money coming in to my house I might go and get something I want if I see it at the right price and pay the credit card bill when the cash comes in. Waiting on qualification simply does not make football or financial sense.
I am not one of the speculate to accumulate brigade but I do tend to adhere to the old adage that if you buy cheap you buy twice – as in life so in fitba!
Ach, I don’t know what to think any more…..
The bottom line. A Celt? but not as we perceive a Celt, i’d rather you didn’t post Nazi shite on here
Problem with black players? The most adored player in our recent history was black – GHOD, KOK – Henke Larsson.
THEBOTTOMLINEIS
Are you trying to say that your age excuses your ingrained racism?
My Dad has been watching Celtic for nearly twenty years longer than you have. It wouldn’t even cross his mind to come out wi stuff like that.
Truly appalling stuff. At least Ron Atkinson had a history of playing black players in his teams. You sound like you have a history of calling them everything under the sun.
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There was some good news today.
Lyndsey Sharp the racist pumped out of the world athletics. Excellent.
And even better to see Stphen House getting punted. And as ever the SNP tell us how wonderful he and police Scotland are…….hilarious.
Lawwell’s Roll Of (Dis) Honour;
Bangura, Pukki, Lassad, Miku, Broziek, Boeriggter, Scepovic, Guidetti, Berget, Tonev, Ciftci, Zaluska, Gershon, Balde and Wakaso.
£13.7M in transfer fees – then there’s the wages!
Could we not just have doubled the wages of Hooper, Ki, Wanyama & Co instead?
I haven’t a clue where the club is going and how we are going to reverse, or even just stall, the downward spiral. From Larrson to JVOH to Hooper to Cifti.
Dreadful remark from The Bottom Line. There is a campaign in football show racism the red card, The bottom line is The Bottom Line should be shown a red card from CQN. Possibly the worst and most stupid comment I have ever read on this site.
Please now put an end to the Ronny Roar…it’s awwfy silly and quite embarrassing.