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Football’s hard, Armstrong, McNeill v Greig

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Last week I suggested we were better with yesterday’s game over and done with, but I have to admit to thoroughly enjoying the occasion.  It may not have been the derby of Old, but it had traces of familiarity from my youth, when managers Billy McNeill and John Greig faced each other.

I watched the game back on television last night.  What an absolute pair of trumpets Warburton and Weir are!  Weir was sent to the stand for demanding Mikael Lustig receive a second yellow card, despite not receiving his first.  Warburton then explained this to the media, indignant that Lustig wasn’t dismissed for two yellows, still totally oblivious to the fact he hadn’t been booked.

Football’s hard.  Referees make mistakes.  But keeping track of who has been booked is remarkably simple.  It was Nir Bitton, not Mikael, who was booked early in the game.  Nir and Mikael have a similar, slight, build, but there’s 7cm between them, with different skin and hair pantones.

What does this tell us?  That the Newco management didn’t know their opponents well enough to tell them apart, never mind how they would play.  Remarkable, considering how often we’ve been on television this season.

Two weeks ago a Dundee United fan asked me what we’d done to Stuart Armstrong and Gary Mackay-Steven.  Armstrong, he explained, was never going to make it as a wide player, he was effective for United through the middle.

I think we suffered for the loss of Tom Rogic, as Stuart edged himself into the occasion, but it may be Ronny Deila deployed him incorrectly.

Moments to cherish from the game: Moussa Dembele’s first touch to control Lustig’s cross at the fourth, and his reverse pass for Scott Sinclair at the third.  You’ve not seen control and awareness like that from a Celtic striker in over a decade.

We’ll touch on the longer-term issues of yesterday at a later date, after we’ve got Barcelona out of our system.

The one thing we all wanted from yesterday was to come through the game without further injuries.  Both Scott Brown and Tom Rogic, two of our central midfield three, retired early.  I’m not going to tell you we’ll take anything from Barcelona on Tuesday, but having Brown, Rogic and Bitton in the team will allow us to at least face the game in decent condition.

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  1. TIM TANIUM on 11TH SEPTEMBER 2016 10:59 PM

     

     

     

    Did not spoil my day,o my enjoyment.Maybe you need to get out more,if those dolls upset you so much.Funny thing is,I would have thought people not too far from you at the game,wanting to wade up to their knees in your sons blood would have been more shocking.

  2. Dallas

     

     

    My daughter told me that there were a few happy Rodgers’ family at mass at Saint Ninian’s Knightswood today. Their nephew and wee cousin is doing them proud in Paradise so far. :)

  3. Now if it had been the “Pussycat Dolls”hanging over the barriers dnt think many would be complaining.

  4. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    HAMILTONTIM on 11TH SEPTEMBER 2016 9:28 PM

     

    Corkcelt

     

     

     

    Indeed. The banner had much more meaning, this year, than many are aware.

     

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    Which is probably why , in the opinion of some , it failed.

  5. Gordy

     

     

    It is the same stuff. One is liquid, one you smoke. Bring me the liquid Meszcal wi the worm and you will be fine. Do Not bring peyote through customs!!!!! :)))

  6. WWW(GBWO) on 11TH SEPTEMBER 2016 11:44 PM

     

    Can I just say

     

     

     

    That hanging stuff was pish

     

     

     

    I’m gutted that tims could do that

     

     

     

    HH

     

     

     

    Is that the Gardens Of Babylon you are on about?.Never knew we had anything to do with them.

  7. Turkey boy

     

    I don’t account for their behaviour. I expect it to be rancid. I will call them out on that every time.

     

    I expect more from my fellow Celtic supporters.

     

    If you think it is okay to show hanging effigies in the week that a prominent ex Rangers player’s brother commits suicide then we come from a different spectrum of morality.

     

    The Huns song about Tommy Burns and Scott’s sister I have also called out and we all should.

     

    However poor behaviour from whatever source must not be excused by “whitabootery”.

  8. Wee lass has just phoned ….got her for three days from the morra….woooooohooooo….

     

     

    If only we could all bring such happiness…. We should all at least try…big smiley thing..

     

     

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FM0Pl80Zf00

     

     

    Awfy braw.

     

     

    Get clearing up mode…remove chainsaw from bathroom !!! Etc etc etc

  9. The first I heard about the tragic death of Kris Boyd’s brother was on here tonight. God rest his soul.

     

    Was it common knowledge that he committed suicide?

  10. WWW(GBWO) on 11TH SEPTEMBER 2016 11:44 PM

     

     

    Can I just say

     

     

     

     

    That hanging stuff was pish

     

     

     

     

    I’m gutted that tims could do that

     

     

     

     

    HH

     

     

     

     

    Is that the Gardens Of Babylon you are on about?.Never knew we had anything to do with them.

     

     

    That’s right mucker

     

     

    HH

  11. Delanys….

     

     

    Your a braw bhoy….

     

     

    The wee wans can go where they will…they ate never more than a heart beat awa…

     

    But try explaining that !!! Hahahahaha.

     

     

    Bankies rule OK.

     

     

    Glad you caught the game…you were there for a load of drammer queens!!!!

     

    Do you think he will see that?

     

    Fore

     

     

    Braw

  12. garygillespieshamstring on

    The hanging dolls were insensitive in the extreme. However if they were linked to the death of Kris Boyd’ s brother, it was a totally disgusting act.

     

    I can only hope that the act was stupid rather than malicious.

  13. NB

     

     

    The Carmyllie drammer and I are gonnae have a messi coupla days roon the Manc City game in Paradise. Quality drams and gradeA maryjane on the menu.

     

    Wish you were here.

  14. Oooooooooooh …..fore fore fore

     

     

    Brilliant….. Dalmuir Carmylie and Forfar….what a braw mix…trying to get to the BMG game on the GERMAN SIDE….

     

     

    BRAW

  15. Hail Hail CQNers

     

     

    What a fantastic start to our season. Clear of the pack at home and heading for Barcelona on Tuesday.

     

     

    We gave a lesson to “wannabees” on Saturday with tutorials to come later in the season.

     

     

    But please…anybody…explain to me why the best supporters in the world (and that is without doubt what we are) would resort to impinging on a family’s personal grief and tragedy by offering a display that we had to witness at Celtic Park on Saturday. It was disgusting and reprehensible and unworthy of true Celtic fans. Whoever organised or thought of it should be ashamed and should apologise for the hurt it has no doubt caused to the Celtic support and by extension the family affected..

     

     

    Please do not join in and say “They” have done worse. “They” are not the yardstick we should measure ourselves against/

     

     

    I do not consider this a matter of debate (and i’m sure there are many like minded Celtic fans who think the same) so I will say no more on the subject but any explanation we;lcome.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  16. BTW ..Delanys. I see us going through our group surprisingly easily ….no drammer at all ….you heard it here first CSC.

     

     

    Feck that defending bollox….speed speed and lashings of quick bits…and play to the world …that’s the Celtic way…just be braw …

     

     

     

    Braw.

  17. NB

     

     

    Gonnae book flights for Munchengladbach game. Never been there. Is it near Frankfurt?

     

    Will go in the German end no bother. 50 BM fans came over for the Dons game 2 weeks ago. They were all Celtic fans. Brilliant guys.

  18. Delanys…wow that wid be braw…we will be in with the Germans though…that’s where I am hoping to get tickets ….but there stadium is sold out every game !! They were the first in Germany to have more demand than supply…and with those fecking stupid CL rules they lose about four thousand seats..

     

    But I will do my very best …

     

     

    Braw.

  19. Eveing/morning all. Thats me jist hame. Dont care who hes fighting wae the night. Any bookie boys on? Tuesday night draw is a cert. Where can I get best odds 1-1 or 2-2? Thanks.

  20. Turkeybhoy on 11th September 2016 9:48 pm

     

     

    As far as I am aware 3 men have been taken into custody regarding the “Dolls”No names as yet,but an eye witness said,”One was an old guy with a Duffel Coat,a bunnet,and large white beard.Another was wearing a sheepskin,and the other looked a right plonker”.

     

     

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    Superb.

     

     

    Level 5 having a field day on here.

     

     

    I thought the sex dolls stunt was amusing. A right mental gag concocted over too many beers. About as ‘offensive’ as a typical Frankie Boyle gag.

     

     

    Two sex dolls suddenly hanging form the upper tier? And that doesn’t incurr a laugh? I laughed. Thousands laughed.

     

     

    Of course, there are quite a few posters who’ve been filling their boots with faux outrage, some appearing who only seem to have many posts to make if it’s a negative Celtic angle.

     

     

    Connections with executions, suicide, Kris Boyd’s brother,etc,etc – all made by observers with different agendas; conjecture over symbolism, endeavouring to imbue the stunt with sinister overtones.

     

     

    Two sex dolls ffs, and there’s hysterical witchfinding, some willing to cultivate this bollocks until it’s the major story of the weekend; Squirrel farmers, if you will.

     

     

    If you feel genuinely offended by it, and in need of counselling, bully for you, Cupcake. Perhaps have a lie down and a wee cup of tea. Use some Ky jelly on your hands to prevent chafing from the wringing. State your view in one post and maybe move on to talking about the renaissance on the park we’re witnessing.

     

     

    For 4 decades I’ve been less concerned by crass gags with blow-up dolls and maybe a teensy bit more bothered about tens of thousands publically expressing their wish to wade in the blood of my family and peers.

     

     

    But that won’t suit the agendas you’ll see playing out in the tabloids and SMSM for the next few days.

     

     

    And exacerbated on Celtic boards everywhere. Condemned with supercillious disdain for anyone who doesn’t treat the stunt with the upmost gravitas; and sneering at ‘fellow’ Celtic supporters is in what way not ‘Hunnish’? Level 5 ninjas are everywhere…

     

     

    Keeping the contention simmering as the real crimes slip away unreperted and unpunished is the name of their game.

     

     

    Next Hun encounter, get a couple of giant blow-up squirrels and repeat the stunt.

     

     

    5-1.

     

     

    A rout. A pumping. A message and proclamation. A payback and a lesson. And the future.

     

     

    There’s yer story.

  21. Have I missed something?When was it proven that the dolls had anything to do with Kris Boyd’s brother?Or mental health?Or anything other than a lame,doltish attempt at a wind-up?As I posted earlier,it wasn’t a good idea and reeked of stupidity.It was crass and shabby,unimaginative,and poorly thought out.In short,it was feeking daft.But unless someone knows something the rest of us don’t then we should stop conflating it with macabreness.

     

    I also used the hun behaviour comparative earlier,not as a gauge to or own but to emphasise how trivial in comparison the doll eejits stunt was.I had my son at the game with me,his first against a hun entity,and he saw the dolls along with me.Until teatime today when I mentioned it was being discussed on here he hadn’t brought it up,in fact he said he’d forgotten about it,he was too busy going on about Moussa and Sinclair and the GB and Tommy Rogic and the noise and how he loved it beating them.He did ask me why they thought singing “f**k Bobby Sands he’s deid” would help their team (although he said eff rather than f**k,because he knows better).He was in no way ‘corrupted’ by the dolls,just as he’ll not be by the malevolance expressed from the lavatorial louts yesterday.

     

    Dollgate is becoming bigger than it really is.And who does that benefit?

     

    Before I end,i’d like to say that mental health issues and suicide are very,very personal subjects for me,have been for a long time and currently,at no point did I attach any part of the doll display to these and take any offence from that point of view.No excuses was stupid,embarrassing and ill-judged but,I don’t think it wasn’t some diabolical plot to cause misery or personal pain.It was vacuous not venomous.There was plenty real poison in the ether to trouble our sensibilities.

     

    Ffs,we beat Sevco 5-1 and the antics of some cupid stunts is the hot topic.Gie’s peace.

  22. BMCUW

     

     

    How was Bristol yesterday?

     

    Paradise was mental.

     

    Clydebank was even more mental when I got home. Bankie school kids love skuuddinn huns. ;)